What MIF wash actually does is simply ignore any garbage in the file. MIF is
pretty much a text representation of the binary format. But MIF interpretation
is loose, so if there's any garbage in there, saving as MIF *might* write the
garbage out, but it will certainly not read it. In this
Hello,
I suspect the effect that you may be observing is Microsoft's handling
of some multibyte characters, where they get mutated to the Unicode
replacement character '�' U+FFFD - which appears to happen very often
when content is imported or pasted into FrameMaker from Microsoft word.
The
At 00:44 -0800 10/12/12, Chris Despopoulos wrote:
Second, this problem apparently occurred by opening Word in Maker???
Something like that. There are many problems with Word to Maker. You should
not copy directly from Word into Maker... Especially tables. If you copy a
table,
I did not
2012-12-10-01T12:55Z
All -
Please help dispel my ignorance or refresh my memory. I use FrameMaker on a
PC, but I've read that some die-hard users of FrameMaker who have Mac
workstations are still using it. So, as they might say in the City of New
York, Not for nothin', but . . . please
At 05:57 -0700 10/12/12, dave.st...@gdc4s.com wrote:
Please help dispel my ignorance or refresh my memory. I use FrameMaker on a
PC, but I've read that some die-hard users of FrameMaker who have Mac
workstations are still using it. So, as they might say in the City of New
York, Not for
From: dave.st...@gdc4s.com
Please help dispel my ignorance or refresh my memory. I use FrameMaker on a
PC, but I've read that some die-hard users of FrameMaker who have Mac
workstations are still using it. So, as they might say in the City of New
York, Not for nothin', but . . .
Hi Dave,
Some answers:
1. The latest native FrameMaker version for Mac was 7 or 7.1.
2., 3. You run virtualization software like Parallels or Fusion on the Mac
so you can install Windows and Windows programs. Then you can run the any
version of FrameMaker that will run on Windows.
Rick
Rick
No, FM10 was much better than FM9
-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Steve Rickaby
Sent: December-09-12 7:55 AM
To: Rick Quatro; 'Alison Craig'; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Frame 11
Others have answered this question
pretty well. Just to add anecdotal experience, I and several other
FrameMaker consultants/trainers have been working almost
exclusively on the Mac platform for some time, using either
Parallels or VMware Fusion to run MacOS and
At 10:03 -0500 10/12/12, Alan Houser wrote:
An interesting tidbit...if you check the properties of Apple's PDF-format user
manuals, you will still see FrameMaker 6 and 7 with surprising frequency.
I am still using it here, as it does all that I need. Trouble is, it's locking
me into OS X 10.4,
11 would be the way to go.
Much more stable than 9 (and, I think, 10), and it feels faster to me.
Art Campbell
art.campb...@gmail.com
... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and
a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson
Just jumping in on this - are files exchangeable between 10 and 11
without complicated save as requirements?
Peter
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Art Campbell
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 3:46 PM
To: Alison Craig;
On 10/12/2012 3:44 AM, Chris Despopoulos wrote:
What MIF wash actually does is simply ignore any garbage in the file.
MIF is pretty much a text representation of the binary format. But MIF
interpretation is loose, so if there's any garbage in there, saving as
MIF *might* write the garbage out,
Nope, they get upgraded when opened in FM11; still have to do a save as to
exchange them
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Peter Hirons
Sent: December-10-12 11:00 AM
To: 'Art Campbell'; 'Alison Craig'; 'FrameUsers List'
At 11:01 -0500 10/12/12, Stuart Rogers wrote:
Sounds like you might be able to identify the mystery character by opening the
Word/RTF source file in a hex editor. It would satisfy curiosity, if nothing
else!
Great idea if I *had* a hex editor ;-)
--
Steve
On 10/12/2012 11:10 AM, Steve Rickaby wrote:
At 11:01 -0500 10/12/12, Stuart Rogers wrote:
Sounds like you might be able to identify the mystery character by opening the
Word/RTF source file in a hex editor. It would satisfy curiosity, if nothing
else!
Great idea if I *had* a hex editor
Here's a good free Hex editor:
http://frhed.sourceforge.net/en/
Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson
Technical Writer
052-763-7133
On 10-Dec-12 6:10 PM, Steve Rickaby wrote:
At 11:01 -0500 10/12/12, Stuart Rogers wrote:
Sounds like you might be able to identify the mystery character by opening the
2012-12-10-01T18:10Z
Thanks to all who responded (mostly off-list, which is fine). I am now
far less ignorant than I was.
Regards,
Dave Stamm
-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Steve Rickaby
Sent:
I have for many years been a very happy user of Xara Designer (under its
various names over the years). It is a competitor to Adobe Illustrator,
but at half the price; at the moment, there's a 20% discount.
If you're in the market for vector-drawing software (with some good
raster processing
I also use (and like) the various Xara products ... far more cost-effective
than Adobe equivalents, although the yearly (or so it seems) upgrade prices
leave a bit to be desired.
Z
-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
I've had pretty good luck with FM 9, 10 and 11 and have used all three in
production settings over that last 8 months. There are quirks in all of them
although I would have to say the 11 is the best (now that that update has
minimized the crashes). The new features and interface changes in
I have a MacBook Air. I installed VMWare Fusion to make a virtual machine and
created the VM with Windows 7 OS. I run TCS on the Windows VM. It's a much
better, easier and more practical solution then a dual boot system or running
OS9 to run Frame.
-Gillian
-Original Message-
From:
Thanks guys but I'm on a Mac. Ok, ok, I do *have* a Windoze box, I just hate
using it
Will report back on mystery character when I get time.
--
Steve
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Does it support AI files?
When I get mechanical dwgs from the engineers, they're saved directly from
SolidWorks in AI format.
Alison
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From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Stuart Rogers
Sent: Monday,
I'm in the process of finishing up the FM 11 book I'm updating in conjunction
with Sarah O'Keefe.
The book will again contain FM and tech comm resources in an appendix.
I would like to make sure I don't miss anyone's favorites!
Are any of your favorite folks/organizations not listed below?
On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 15:43:33 -0800, Matt Sullivan
m...@mattrsullivan.com wrote:
Here is a list of folks I've slated for inclusion:
frameusers.com (duh)
adobe.com/products/framemaker
Sarah O'Keefe, scriptorium
Scott Prentice, leximation
Scott Abel, content wrangler
Jeremy Griffiths, MIF2go
That
Hi, all.
This question is a bit off-topic, but I would like to get your opinions too! I
am using Windows 7 Pro 64-bit with latest versions of FrameMaker 11 and Acrobat
XI, of course.
For some of my recent font purchases, I received both OpenType and TrueType
format files. I.e., the font came
Hi Jeremy,
Thanks for the reply, sorry for the typo…that's what I get for going off of
memory!
I already updated the url based on the sunset message I got at the omsys.com
address. The address listed now is http://mif2go.com. Is that what you'd like?
I did already list you, flare, ePublisher
On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 16:59:14 -0800, Matt Sullivan
m...@mattrsullivan.com wrote:
Hi Jeremy,
Thanks for the reply, sorry for the typo…that's
what I get for going off of memory!
I know the problem well... ;-)
I already updated the url based on the sunset
message I got at the omsys.com
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Hello,
I suspect the effect that you may be observing is Microsoft's handling
of some multibyte characters, where they get mutated to the Unicode
replacement character '?' U+FFFD - which appears to happen very often
when content is imported or pasted into FrameMaker from Microsoft word.
The
At 00:44 -0800 10/12/12, Chris Despopoulos wrote:
>Second, this problem apparently occurred by opening Word in Maker???
>Something like that. There are many problems with Word to Maker. You should
>not copy directly from Word into Maker... Especially tables. If you copy a
>table,
I did
2012-12-10-01T12:55Z
All -
Please help dispel my ignorance or refresh my memory. I use FrameMaker on a
"PC," but I've read that some die-hard users of FrameMaker who have Mac
workstations are still using it. So, as they might say in the City of New
York, "Not for nothin', but?.?.?." please
At 05:57 -0700 10/12/12, wrote:
>Please help dispel my ignorance or refresh my memory. I use FrameMaker on a
>"PC," but I've read that some die-hard users of FrameMaker who have Mac
>workstations are still using it. So, as they might say in the City of New
>York, "Not for nothin', but . .
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Hi Dave,
Some answers:
1. The latest native FrameMaker version for Mac was 7 or 7.1.
2., 3. You run virtualization software like Parallels or Fusion on the Mac
so you can install Windows and Windows programs. Then you can run the any
version of FrameMaker that will run on Windows.
Rick
Rick
No, FM10 was much better than FM9
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>manuals, you will still see FrameMaker 6 and 7 with surprising frequency.
I am still using it here, as it does all that I need. Trouble is, it's locking
me into OS X
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> MIF is pretty much a text representation of the binary format. But MIF
> interpretation is loose, so if there's any garbage in there, saving as
> MIF *might* write the garbage
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>Sounds like you might be able to identify the mystery character by opening the
>Word/RTF source file in a hex editor. It would satisfy curiosity, if nothing
>else!
Great idea if I *had* a hex editor ;-)
--
Steve
On 10/12/2012 11:10 AM, Steve Rickaby wrote:
> At 11:01 -0500 10/12/12, Stuart Rogers wrote:
>
>> Sounds like you might be able to identify the mystery character by opening
>> the Word/RTF source file in a hex editor. It would satisfy curiosity, if
>> nothing else!
>
> Great idea if I *had* a
Here's a good free Hex editor:
http://frhed.sourceforge.net/en/
Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson
Technical Writer
052-763-7133
On 10-Dec-12 6:10 PM, Steve Rickaby wrote:
> At 11:01 -0500 10/12/12, Stuart Rogers wrote:
>
>> Sounds like you might be able to identify the mystery character by opening
>> the
2012-12-10-01T18:10Z
Thanks to all who responded (mostly off-list, which is fine). I am now
far less ignorant than I was.
Regards,
Dave Stamm
-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Steve Rickaby
Sent:
I have for many years been a very happy user of Xara Designer (under its
various names over the years). It is a competitor to Adobe Illustrator,
but at half the price; at the moment, there's a 20% discount.
If you're in the market for vector-drawing software (with some good
raster processing
I also use (and like) the various Xara products ... far more cost-effective
than Adobe equivalents, although the yearly (or so it seems) upgrade prices
leave a bit to be desired.
Z
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I have a MacBook Air. I installed VMWare Fusion to make a virtual machine and
created the VM with Windows 7 OS. I run TCS on the Windows VM. It's a much
better, easier and more practical solution then a dual boot system or running
OS9 to run Frame.
-Gillian
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From:
Thanks guys but I'm on a Mac. Ok, ok, I do *have* a Windoze box, I just hate
using it
Will report back on mystery character when I get time.
--
Steve
On 10/12/2012 3:57 PM, William Persinger wrote:
> Which design package are you talking about, the Pro package?
>
> On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 2:03 PM, Stuart Rogers
> mailto:srogers at phoenix-geophysics.com>>
> wrote:
>
> I have for many years been a very happy user of Xara Designer (under
>
Does it support AI files?
When I get mechanical dwgs from the engineers, they're saved directly from
SolidWorks in AI format.
Alison
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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Stuart Rogers
Sent: Monday,
On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 15:43:33 -0800, Matt Sullivan
wrote:
>Here is a list of folks I've slated for inclusion:
>frameusers.com (duh)
>adobe.com/products/framemaker
>Sarah O'Keefe, scriptorium
>Scott Prentice, leximation
>Scott Abel, content wrangler
>Jeremy Griffiths, MIF2go
That would be:
one of
them give any better output/quality/smaller file_size, etc.?
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>Hi Jeremy,
>
>Thanks for the reply, sorry for the typo?that's
>what I get for going off of memory!
I know the problem well... ;-)
> I already updated the url based on the "sunset"
>message I got at the omsys.com address. The address
y - Upgrade or Downgrade the new copy to
Frame 9? HELP
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http://forums.adobe.com/community/robohelp/robohelp_framemaker
http://lauriston.com/framemaker_tips.html
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> I'm in the process of finishing up the FM 11 book I'm updating in
> conjunction with
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