Re: Why we love Adobe Tech Support...

2013-08-14 Thread Art Campbell
I don't think you're missing anything Greg, but the lesson learned, if
anything, is that you need to look at your corrections.
I'm going to assume this guy was learning the ropes... until it happens
again. ;- )

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On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 10:06 AM, Greg Albert greg.alb...@peergroup.comwrote:

 Am I missing something? I thought it was a humourous tale with no intended
 insult whatsoever. Isn't the * you just Pete trying to correct the thank
 yo for responding from his previous line? I thought it was just quirky
 timing that led to it looking like an insult.
 --Greg

 -Original Message-
 From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:
 framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Peter Hirons
 Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 9:55 AM
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: RE: Why we love Adobe Tech Support...

 After that incident he should have an enforced change of job.

 Anyone who can't cope with the pressures of the job that includes
 difficult customers (not that I'm saying Art was in anyway difficult)
 shouldn't be doing the job.

 ---


 Peter

 On 2013-08-12 20:28, Bethany Lee wrote:
  I want to know what happened after this. Did he transfer you or hang
  up on you? I think if I were Pete, and you said, Do I have a choice?
  I would have said, yeah, you can wait while I transfer you or you can
  quit this chat. It's your choice.  J
 
  I think people doing chat help get a lot of crap from users of chat
  help. It's super easy to be rude to people who are on chat help and I
  bet they experience a lot of that every day. I think it takes a steel
  exterior to be able to do customer service of any kind, and chat
  service even more so. Maybe Pete doesn't have that steel exterior or
  maybe he's just been doing it too long and he needs a change of job.
 
  FROM: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
  [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] ON BEHALF OF Art
  Campbell
   SENT: Sunday, August 11, 2013 3:10 PM
   TO: FrameUsers List; Free Framers; tcs-users
   SUBJECT: Why we love Adobe Tech Support...
 
  The transcript of a chat session with Pete this afternoon. Back
  story: I'm looking for a download of Acrobat X, not the current
  version. And yes, I may have overstepped a wee bit when I asked Do I
  have a choice? but that doesn't detract from the cheery ending from
  Pete. :- )
 
  info: One moment please while we route your chat to a representative.
  info: Thank you for contacting Adobe Sales. My name is Pete. How may
  I help you today?
  You: Art
  Pete: Hi, may I have your first name please?
  You: Hi, I'm looking for the download/installer for Acrobat X Pro
  You: Any idea of the URL?
  Pete: Just to know, did you already purchase the software?
  You: Yes, that's why I need the download.
  Pete: In that case, let me go ahead and transfer this chat to our
  Technical Support Team to help you with the download, alright.
  You: Do I have a choice?
  Pete: You need to contact our technical team for the download,
  alright.
  Pete: Let me transfer this chat, alright.
  Pete: I am sorry, did I lose you?
  You: No,
  Pete: Thank yo for responding.
  You: I'm waiting to be transferred -- I can't do it
  Pete: *you.
  You: and * you too,
 
   Cheers,
 
  Art
 
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RE: Why we love Adobe Tech Support...

2013-08-14 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Greg Albert said:
 Am I missing something? I thought it was a humourous tale with no intended 
 insult whatsoever. Isn't the * you just Pete trying to correct the thank 
 yo for responding from his previous line? I thought it was just quirky 
 timing that led to it looking like an insult.

That is how I had originally thought of it too ... but then got confused by the 
ensuing different discussion here. :)

Z

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. RE: Why we love Adobe Tech Support..

2013-08-14 Thread Davis, David
Ian is almost certainly correct - the poor guy was probably trying to correct 
himself for misspelling you.

Unfortunately it looked as if he was speaking' jive, yo,  ... and then closing 
with a bleeped-out expletive. 

Hilarious, in fact - I almost spat out my tea over my monitor :)  

I strongly suggest that transcript be archived somewhere in an interweb Hall of 
Funnies. :)

David


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Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 05:37:28 +
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Am I missing something?

I am assuming the asterisk is not your edit of a rude word.

If so, the whole ?*you? business arose because Pete misspelled it as ?yo? in 
the previous chat line. He was correcting it.

Regards

Ian


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. RE: Why we love Adobe Tech Support..

2013-08-14 Thread Davis, David
Ian is almost certainly correct - the poor guy was probably trying to correct 
himself for misspelling "you".

Unfortunately it looked as if he was speaking' jive, yo,  ... and then closing 
with a bleeped-out expletive. 

Hilarious, in fact - I almost spat out my tea over my monitor :)  

I strongly suggest that transcript be archived somewhere in an interweb Hall of 
Funnies. :)

David


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Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 05:37:28 +
From: "Saunders, Ian" <isaund...@enghouse.com>
To: "TCS-Users at googlegroups.com" , Bethany
Lee 
Cc: FrameUsers List ,  Free Framers
        
Subject: RE: [TCS Users] Re: Why we love Adobe Tech Support...
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Am I missing something?

I am assuming the asterisk is not your edit of a rude word.

If so, the whole ?*you? business arose because Pete misspelled it as ?yo? in 
the previous chat line. He was correcting it.

Regards

Ian


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Re: Why we love Adobe Tech Support...

2013-08-13 Thread Simon BUCH


I guess you've tried the Adobe Licensing Repair Tool:
http://www.adobe.com/support/contact/licensing.html

I've found that Adobe's licensing is irritating - my latest episode 
was while upgrading an installation of Acrobat to the latest version.


For anyone who has any Adobe products that insist on activation by 
internet only, I strongly recommend the software purchaser to contact 
Adobe Technical support tcs...@adobe.com supplying the required 
information [the software order number] so that Adobe can then provide a 
software license activation 'hack' that doesn't require the calling home 
to Adobe.



// Simon BUCH -- M-AIS



On 12/08/2013 19:31, Cheryl Dwyer wrote:

Warning, warning... RANT

Adobe's latest 'support trick' with me is to ALWAYS assume that any
application within the TS6--that my company purchased for me and that I duly
registered the serial number (along with the serial number for FrameMaker
11) within Adobe Tech Support--is, once again with each opening, STILL in
its 'trial' stage.



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Re: Why we love Adobe Tech Support...

2013-08-13 Thread Art Campbell
Wait until you drop off the one-year discount Creative Cloud and opt for a
single application -- Photoshop.
Dark licensing frontiers where no one at Adobe has apparently gone
before... ;- )

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 I guess you've tried the Adobe Licensing Repair Tool:
 http://www.adobe.com/support/contact/licensing.html

 I've found that Adobe's licensing is irritating - my latest episode was
 while upgrading an installation of Acrobat to the latest version.

 For anyone who has any Adobe products that insist on activation by
 internet only, I strongly recommend the software purchaser to contact
 Adobe Technical support tcs...@adobe.com tcs...@adobe.com supplying
 the required information [the software order number] so that Adobe can then
 provide a software license activation 'hack' that doesn't require the
 calling home to Adobe.


 // Simon BUCH -- M-AIS




 On 12/08/2013 19:31, Cheryl Dwyer wrote:

 Warning, warning... RANT

 Adobe's latest 'support trick' with me is to ALWAYS assume that any
 application within the TS6--that my company purchased for me and that I duly
 registered the serial number (along with the serial number for FrameMaker
 11) within Adobe Tech Support--is, once again with each opening, STILL in
 its 'trial' stage.




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RE: Why we love Adobe Tech Support...

2013-08-13 Thread Bethany Lee
I want to know what happened after this. Did he transfer you or hang up on you? 
I think if I were Pete, and you said, Do I have a choice? I would have said, 
yeah, you can wait while I transfer you or you can quit this chat. It's your 
choice.  :)
I think people doing chat help get a lot of crap from users of chat help. It's 
super easy to be rude to people who are on chat help and I bet they experience 
a lot of that every day. I think it takes a steel exterior to be able to do 
customer service of any kind, and chat service even more so. Maybe Pete doesn't 
have that steel exterior or maybe he's just been doing it too long and he needs 
a change of job.

From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Art Campbell
Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 3:10 PM
To: FrameUsers List; Free Framers; tcs-users
Subject: Why we love Adobe Tech Support...

The transcript of a chat session with Pete this afternoon. Back story: I'm 
looking for a download of Acrobat X, not the current version. And yes, I may 
have overstepped a wee bit when I asked Do I have a choice? but that doesn't 
detract from the cheery ending from Pete.  :- )
info: One moment please while we route your chat to a representative.
info: Thank you for contacting Adobe Sales. My name is Pete. How may I help you 
today?
You: Art
Pete: Hi, may I have your first name please?
You: Hi, I'm looking for the download/installer for Acrobat X Pro
You: Any idea of the URL?
Pete: Just to know, did you already purchase the software?
You: Yes, that's why I need the download.
Pete: In that case, let me go ahead and transfer this chat to our Technical 
Support Team to help you with the download, alright.
You: Do I have a choice?
Pete: You need to contact our technical team for the download, alright.
Pete: Let me transfer this chat, alright.
Pete: I am sorry, did I lose you?
You: No,
Pete: Thank yo for responding.
You: I'm waiting to be transferred -- I can't do it
Pete: *you.
You: and * you too,

Cheers,
Art

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RE: [TCS Users] Re: Why we love Adobe Tech Support...

2013-08-13 Thread Saunders, Ian
Am I missing something?

I am assuming the asterisk is not your edit of a rude word.

If so, the whole “*you” business arose because Pete misspelled it as “yo” in 
the previous chat line. He was correcting it.

Regards

Ian


From: tcs-us...@googlegroups.com [mailto:tcs-us...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Art Campbell
Sent: 12 August 2013 22:00
To: Bethany Lee
Cc: FrameUsers List; Free Framers; tcs-users
Subject: [TCS Users] Re: Why we love Adobe Tech Support...

He typed ^you and hit the transfer key at the same time.

I did eventually get the link, which is well-hidden.
Second support person was efficient, polite, and got the info promptly.

Art Campbell
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redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson
  No disclaimers apply.
   DoD 358

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On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 3:28 PM, Bethany Lee 
bethany@lakeshore.commailto:bethany@lakeshore.com wrote:
I want to know what happened after this. Did he transfer you or hang up on you? 
I think if I were Pete, and you said, “Do I have a choice?” I would have said, 
“yeah, you can wait while I transfer you or you can quit this chat. It’s your 
choice. “ ☺
I think people doing chat help get a lot of crap from users of chat help. It’s 
super easy to be rude to people who are on chat help and I bet they experience 
a lot of that every day. I think it takes a steel exterior to be able to do 
customer service of any kind, and chat service even more so. Maybe Pete doesn’t 
have that steel exterior or maybe he’s just been doing it too long and he needs 
a change of job.

From: 
framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com]
 On Behalf Of Art Campbell
Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 3:10 PM
To: FrameUsers List; Free Framers; tcs-users
Subject: Why we love Adobe Tech Support...

The transcript of a chat session with Pete this afternoon. Back story: I'm 
looking for a download of Acrobat X, not the current version. And yes, I may 
have overstepped a wee bit when I asked Do I have a choice? but that doesn't 
detract from the cheery ending from Pete.  :- )
info: One moment please while we route your chat to a representative.
info: Thank you for contacting Adobe Sales. My name is Pete. How may I help you 
today?
You: Art
Pete: Hi, may I have your first name please?
You: Hi, I'm looking for the download/installer for Acrobat X Pro
You: Any idea of the URL?
Pete: Just to know, did you already purchase the software?
You: Yes, that's why I need the download.
Pete: In that case, let me go ahead and transfer this chat to our Technical 
Support Team to help you with the download, alright.
You: Do I have a choice?
Pete: You need to contact our technical team for the download, alright.
Pete: Let me transfer this chat, alright.
Pete: I am sorry, did I lose you?
You: No,
Pete: Thank yo for responding.
You: I'm waiting to be transferred -- I can't do it
Pete: *you.
You: and * you too,

Cheers,
Art

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RE: Why we love Adobe Tech Support...

2013-08-13 Thread Peter Hirons

After that incident he should have an enforced change of job.

Anyone who can't cope with the pressures of the job that includes 
difficult customers (not that I'm saying Art was in anyway difficult) 
shouldn't be doing the job.


---


Peter

On 2013-08-12 20:28, Bethany Lee wrote:

I want to know what happened after this. Did he transfer you or hang
up on you? I think if I were Pete, and you said, Do I have a choice?
I would have said, yeah, you can wait while I transfer you or you can
quit this chat. It's your choice.  J

I think people doing chat help get a lot of crap from users of chat
help. It's super easy to be rude to people who are on chat help and I
bet they experience a lot of that every day. I think it takes a steel
exterior to be able to do customer service of any kind, and chat
service even more so. Maybe Pete doesn't have that steel exterior or
maybe he's just been doing it too long and he needs a change of job.

FROM: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] ON BEHALF OF Art
Campbell
 SENT: Sunday, August 11, 2013 3:10 PM
 TO: FrameUsers List; Free Framers; tcs-users
 SUBJECT: Why we love Adobe Tech Support...

The transcript of a chat session with Pete this afternoon. Back
story: I'm looking for a download of Acrobat X, not the current
version. And yes, I may have overstepped a wee bit when I asked Do I
have a choice? but that doesn't detract from the cheery ending from
Pete. :- )


info: One moment please while we route your chat to a representative.
info: Thank you for contacting Adobe Sales. My name is Pete. How may 
I help you today?

You: Art
Pete: Hi, may I have your first name please?
You: Hi, I'm looking for the download/installer for Acrobat X Pro
You: Any idea of the URL?
Pete: Just to know, did you already purchase the software?
You: Yes, that's why I need the download.
Pete: In that case, let me go ahead and transfer this chat to our 
Technical Support Team to help you with the download, alright.

You: Do I have a choice?
Pete: You need to contact our technical team for the download, 
alright.

Pete: Let me transfer this chat, alright.
Pete: I am sorry, did I lose you?
You: No,
Pete: Thank yo for responding.
You: I'm waiting to be transferred -- I can't do it
Pete: *you.
You: and * you too,


 Cheers,

Art

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Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson
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RE: Why we love Adobe Tech Support...

2013-08-13 Thread Greg Albert
Am I missing something? I thought it was a humourous tale with no intended 
insult whatsoever. Isn't the * you just Pete trying to correct the thank yo 
for responding from his previous line? I thought it was just quirky timing 
that led to it looking like an insult.
--Greg

-Original Message-
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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Peter Hirons
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 9:55 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Why we love Adobe Tech Support...

After that incident he should have an enforced change of job.

Anyone who can't cope with the pressures of the job that includes difficult 
customers (not that I'm saying Art was in anyway difficult) shouldn't be doing 
the job.

---


Peter

On 2013-08-12 20:28, Bethany Lee wrote:
 I want to know what happened after this. Did he transfer you or hang 
 up on you? I think if I were Pete, and you said, Do I have a choice?
 I would have said, yeah, you can wait while I transfer you or you can 
 quit this chat. It's your choice.  J
 
 I think people doing chat help get a lot of crap from users of chat 
 help. It's super easy to be rude to people who are on chat help and I 
 bet they experience a lot of that every day. I think it takes a steel 
 exterior to be able to do customer service of any kind, and chat 
 service even more so. Maybe Pete doesn't have that steel exterior or 
 maybe he's just been doing it too long and he needs a change of job.
 
 FROM: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
 [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] ON BEHALF OF Art 
 Campbell
  SENT: Sunday, August 11, 2013 3:10 PM
  TO: FrameUsers List; Free Framers; tcs-users
  SUBJECT: Why we love Adobe Tech Support...
 
 The transcript of a chat session with Pete this afternoon. Back
 story: I'm looking for a download of Acrobat X, not the current 
 version. And yes, I may have overstepped a wee bit when I asked Do I 
 have a choice? but that doesn't detract from the cheery ending from 
 Pete. :- )
 
 info: One moment please while we route your chat to a representative.
 info: Thank you for contacting Adobe Sales. My name is Pete. How may 
 I help you today?
 You: Art
 Pete: Hi, may I have your first name please?
 You: Hi, I'm looking for the download/installer for Acrobat X Pro
 You: Any idea of the URL?
 Pete: Just to know, did you already purchase the software?
 You: Yes, that's why I need the download.
 Pete: In that case, let me go ahead and transfer this chat to our 
 Technical Support Team to help you with the download, alright.
 You: Do I have a choice?
 Pete: You need to contact our technical team for the download, 
 alright.
 Pete: Let me transfer this chat, alright.
 Pete: I am sorry, did I lose you?
 You: No,
 Pete: Thank yo for responding.
 You: I'm waiting to be transferred -- I can't do it
 Pete: *you.
 You: and * you too,
 
  Cheers,
 
 Art
 
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RE: Why we love Adobe Tech Support...

2013-08-13 Thread Tim Pann
Art,

I'm still trying to figure out what the point is of saying, Do I have a 
choice? and the ensuing insult. You're quick to hold the tech support 
specialist accountable for his gaffe but can you provide a rationale for 
insulting him first when he was doing nothing more than his job?

It APPEARS that in order to get your download you needed to be transferred to 
someone else. By asking if you had a choice, did you mean you expected this 
particular support person to be ready to provide that service? If that was the 
case then you would have gotten to the point much more quickly by asking, I'm 
hoping that you could help me with the download yourself.

It's easy to say, These people should have a thick skin and if they can't 
handle it they should get a different job. How about we include another 
should, that one being everyone should just be civil to each other.

Tim


From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] on behalf of Art Campbell 
[art.campb...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 2:00 PM
To: Bethany Lee
Cc: FrameUsers List; tcs-users; Free Framers
Subject: Re: Why we love Adobe Tech Support...

He typed ^you and hit the transfer key at the same time.

I did eventually get the link, which is well-hidden.
Second support person was efficient, polite, and got the info promptly.

Art Campbell
  art.campb...@gmail.commailto:art.campb...@gmail.com
  ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a 
redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson
  No disclaimers apply.
   DoD 358

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On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 3:28 PM, Bethany Lee 
bethany@lakeshore.commailto:bethany@lakeshore.com wrote:
I want to know what happened after this. Did he transfer you or hang up on you? 
I think if I were Pete, and you said, “Do I have a choice?” I would have said, 
“yeah, you can wait while I transfer you or you can quit this chat. It’s your 
choice. “ :)
I think people doing chat help get a lot of crap from users of chat help. It’s 
super easy to be rude to people who are on chat help and I bet they experience 
a lot of that every day. I think it takes a steel exterior to be able to do 
customer service of any kind, and chat service even more so. Maybe Pete doesn’t 
have that steel exterior or maybe he’s just been doing it too long and he needs 
a change of job.

From: 
framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com]
 On Behalf Of Art Campbell
Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 3:10 PM
To: FrameUsers List; Free Framers; tcs-users
Subject: Why we love Adobe Tech Support...

The transcript of a chat session with Pete this afternoon. Back story: I'm 
looking for a download of Acrobat X, not the current version. And yes, I may 
have overstepped a wee bit when I asked Do I have a choice? but that doesn't 
detract from the cheery ending from Pete.  :- )
info: One moment please while we route your chat to a representative.
info: Thank you for contacting Adobe Sales. My name is Pete. How may I help you 
today?
You: Art
Pete: Hi, may I have your first name please?
You: Hi, I'm looking for the download/installer for Acrobat X Pro
You: Any idea of the URL?
Pete: Just to know, did you already purchase the software?
You: Yes, that's why I need the download.
Pete: In that case, let me go ahead and transfer this chat to our Technical 
Support Team to help you with the download, alright.
You: Do I have a choice?
Pete: You need to contact our technical team for the download, alright.
Pete: Let me transfer this chat, alright.
Pete: I am sorry, did I lose you?
You: No,
Pete: Thank yo for responding.
You: I'm waiting to be transferred -- I can't do it
Pete: *you.
You: and * you too,

Cheers,
Art

Art Campbell
  art.campb...@gmail.commailto:art.campb...@gmail.com
  ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a 
redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson
  No disclaimers apply.
   DoD 358

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[TCS Users] Re: Why we love Adobe Tech Support...

2013-08-13 Thread Saunders, Ian
Am I missing something?

I am assuming the asterisk is not your edit of a rude word.

If so, the whole ?*you? business arose because Pete misspelled it as ?yo? in 
the previous chat line. He was correcting it.

Regards

Ian


From: TCS-Users at googlegroups.com [mailto:tcs-us...@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Art Campbell
Sent: 12 August 2013 22:00
To: Bethany Lee
Cc: FrameUsers List; Free Framers; tcs-users
Subject: [TCS Users] Re: Why we love Adobe Tech Support...

He typed "^you" and hit the transfer key at the same time.

I did eventually get the link, which is well-hidden.
Second support person was efficient, polite, and got the info promptly.

Art Campbell
  art.campbell at gmail.com<mailto:art.campbell at gmail.com>
  "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a 
redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
  No disclaimers apply.
   DoD 358

I support www.TheGrotonLine.com<http://www.TheGrotonLine.com>, hyperlocal news 
for Groton MA.

On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 3:28 PM, Bethany Lee mailto:bethany.lee at lakeshore.com>> wrote:
I want to know what happened after this. Did he transfer you or hang up on you? 
I think if I were Pete, and you said, ?Do I have a choice?? I would have said, 
?yeah, you can wait while I transfer you or you can quit this chat. It?s your 
choice. ? ?
I think people doing chat help get a lot of crap from users of chat help. It?s 
super easy to be rude to people who are on chat help and I bet they experience 
a lot of that every day. I think it takes a steel exterior to be able to do 
customer service of any kind, and chat service even more so. Maybe Pete doesn?t 
have that steel exterior or maybe he?s just been doing it too long and he needs 
a change of job.

From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers-bounces at 
lists.frameusers.com> [mailto:framers-bounces at 
lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com>] On Behalf Of 
Art Campbell
Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 3:10 PM
To: FrameUsers List; Free Framers; tcs-users
Subject: Why we love Adobe Tech Support...

The transcript of a chat session with "Pete" this afternoon. Back story: I'm 
looking for a download of Acrobat X, not the current version. And yes, I may 
have overstepped a wee bit when I asked "Do I have a choice?" but that doesn't 
detract from the cheery ending from "Pete".  :- )
info: One moment please while we route your chat to a representative.
info: Thank you for contacting Adobe Sales. My name is Pete. How may I help you 
today?
You: Art
Pete: Hi, may I have your first name please?
You: Hi, I'm looking for the download/installer for Acrobat X Pro
You: Any idea of the URL?
Pete: Just to know, did you already purchase the software?
You: Yes, that's why I need the download.
Pete: In that case, let me go ahead and transfer this chat to our Technical 
Support Team to help you with the download, alright.
You: Do I have a choice?
Pete: You need to contact our technical team for the download, alright.
Pete: Let me transfer this chat, alright.
Pete: I am sorry, did I lose you?
You: No,
Pete: Thank yo for responding.
You: I'm waiting to be transferred -- I can't do it
Pete: *you.
You: and * you too,

Cheers,
Art

Art Campbell
  art.campbell at gmail.com<mailto:art.campbell at gmail.com>
  "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a 
redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
  No disclaimers apply.
   DoD 358

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RE: Why we love Adobe Tech Support...

2013-08-12 Thread Cheryl Dwyer
Warning, warning... RANT

Adobe's latest 'support trick' with me is to ALWAYS assume that any
application within the TS6--that my company purchased for me and that I duly
registered the serial number (along with the serial number for FrameMaker
11) within Adobe Tech Support--is, once again with each opening, STILL in
its 'trial' stage. 

As such, it always requests that I register it with Adobe. After the third
or fourth time of this nonsense, I contacted tech support. They 'fixed the
problem'--for that day, at least--but the next time I tried to open another
TS6 application, I was again prompted to register the serial number. I had
the same thing happen with FM 11, which we purchased concurrently with TS6.
FM finally accepted the fact that it IS a legally registered product, and,
with the last two openings, the TS6 apps have finally seemed to be opening
as they should. 

But ... it shouldn't take months of customer aggravation to achieve what
should happen automatically with the initial registration.
/RANT

Ahhh, thanks, I feel much better now! ;-)

Cheryl Dwyer
Lead Tech Writer
Industrial Medium Software, Inc.
McLean, VA
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2013 15:09:34 -0400
From: Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com
To: FrameUsers List framers@lists.frameusers.com, Free Framers
fram...@omsys.com, tcs-users tcs-us...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Why we love Adobe Tech Support...
Message-ID:
CAOW=e1fbosai9pagqsbqp5ap9az9obr+mpuq+qvpo8n2kse...@mail.gmail.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

The transcript of a chat session with Pete this afternoon. Back
story: I'm looking for a download of Acrobat X, not the current version.
And yes, I may have overstepped a wee bit when I asked Do I have a choice?
but that doesn't detract from the cheery ending from Pete.  :- )

info: One moment please while we route your chat to a representative.
info: Thank you for contacting Adobe Sales. My name is Pete. How may I help
you today?
You: Art
Pete: Hi, may I have your first name please?
You: Hi, I'm looking for the download/installer for Acrobat X Pro
You: Any idea of the URL?
Pete: Just to know, did you already purchase the software?
You: Yes, that's why I need the download.
Pete: In that case, let me go ahead and transfer this chat to our Technical
Support Team to help you with the download, alright.
You: Do I have a choice?
Pete: You need to contact our technical team for the download, alright.
Pete: Let me transfer this chat, alright.
Pete: I am sorry, did I lose you?
You: No,
Pete: Thank yo for responding.
You: I'm waiting to be transferred -- I can't do it
Pete: *you.
You: and * you too,


Cheers,
Art

Art Campbell
   art.campb...@gmail.com
  ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and
a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson
  No disclaimers apply.
   DoD 358

I support www.TheGrotonLine.com, hyperlocal news for Groton MA.
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Re: Why we love Adobe Tech Support...

2013-08-12 Thread Art Campbell
He typed ^you and hit the transfer key at the same time.

I did eventually get the link, which is well-hidden.
Second support person was efficient, polite, and got the info promptly.

Art Campbell
  art.campb...@gmail.com
  ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and
a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson
  No disclaimers apply.
   DoD 358

I support www.TheGrotonLine.com, hyperlocal news for Groton MA.


On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 3:28 PM, Bethany Lee bethany@lakeshore.comwrote:

  I want to know what happened after this. Did he transfer you or hang up
 on you? I think if I were Pete, and you said, “Do I have a choice?” I would
 have said, “yeah, you can wait while I transfer you or you can quit this
 chat. It’s your choice. “ J 

 I think people doing chat help get a lot of crap from users of chat help.
 It’s super easy to be rude to people who are on chat help and I bet they
 experience a lot of that every day. I think it takes a steel exterior to be
 able to do customer service of any kind, and chat service even more so.
 Maybe Pete doesn’t have that steel exterior or maybe he’s just been doing
 it too long and he needs a change of job.

 ** **

 *From:* framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:
 framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] *On Behalf Of *Art Campbell
 *Sent:* Sunday, August 11, 2013 3:10 PM
 *To:* FrameUsers List; Free Framers; tcs-users
 *Subject:* Why we love Adobe Tech Support...

 ** **

 The transcript of a chat session with Pete this afternoon. Back
 story: I'm looking for a download of Acrobat X, not the current version.
 And yes, I may have overstepped a wee bit when I asked Do I have a
 choice? but that doesn't detract from the cheery ending from Pete.  :- )
 

 info: One moment please while we route your chat to a representative.
 info: Thank you for contacting Adobe Sales. My name is Pete. How may I
 help you today?
 You: Art
 Pete: Hi, may I have your first name please?
 You: Hi, I'm looking for the download/installer for Acrobat X Pro
 You: Any idea of the URL?
 Pete: Just to know, did you already purchase the software?
 You: Yes, that's why I need the download.
 Pete: In that case, let me go ahead and transfer this chat to our
 Technical Support Team to help you with the download, alright.
 You: Do I have a choice?
 Pete: You need to contact our technical team for the download, alright.
 Pete: Let me transfer this chat, alright.
 Pete: I am sorry, did I lose you?
 You: No,
 Pete: Thank yo for responding.
 You: I'm waiting to be transferred -- I can't do it
 Pete: *you.
 You: and * you too, 


 Cheers,

 Art

 Art Campbell
art.campb...@gmail.com
   ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent
 and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson
   No disclaimers apply.
DoD 358

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RE: Why we love Adobe Tech Support...

2013-08-12 Thread Cheryl Dwyer
You're absolutely right, Craig--I meant CS6--I'm working from home today and
the box is in my office. Too much ranting around, I'm sure... At least it
all seems to be working okay now!

Cheryl

-Original Message-
From: Craig Ede [mailto:craig...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 5:30 PM
To: 'Cheryl Dwyer'
Subject: RE: Why we love Adobe Tech Support...

TS4 is the current version.
CS6 is the Creative Suite last numbered version before they went to the
cloud.
Craig

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Cheryl Dwyer
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 2:31 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com; art.campb...@gmail.com
Subject: RE: Why we love Adobe Tech Support...

Warning, warning... RANT

Adobe's latest 'support trick' with me is to ALWAYS assume that any
application within the TS6--that my company purchased for me and that I duly
registered the serial number (along with the serial number for FrameMaker
11) within Adobe Tech Support--is, once again with each opening, STILL in
its 'trial' stage. 

As such, it always requests that I register it with Adobe. After the third
or fourth time of this nonsense, I contacted tech support. They 'fixed the
problem'--for that day, at least--but the next time I tried to open another
TS6 application, I was again prompted to register the serial number. I had
the same thing happen with FM 11, which we purchased concurrently with TS6.
FM finally accepted the fact that it IS a legally registered product, and,
with the last two openings, the TS6 apps have finally seemed to be opening
as they should. 

But ... it shouldn't take months of customer aggravation to achieve what
should happen automatically with the initial registration.
/RANT

Ahhh, thanks, I feel much better now! ;-)

Cheryl Dwyer
Lead Tech Writer
Industrial Medium Software, Inc.
McLean, VA
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Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2013 15:09:34 -0400
From: Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com
To: FrameUsers List framers@lists.frameusers.com, Free Framers
fram...@omsys.com, tcs-users tcs-us...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Why we love Adobe Tech Support...
Message-ID:
CAOW=e1fbosai9pagqsbqp5ap9az9obr+mpuq+qvpo8n2kse...@mail.gmail.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

The transcript of a chat session with Pete this afternoon. Back
story: I'm looking for a download of Acrobat X, not the current version.
And yes, I may have overstepped a wee bit when I asked Do I have a choice?
but that doesn't detract from the cheery ending from Pete.  :- )

info: One moment please while we route your chat to a representative.
info: Thank you for contacting Adobe Sales. My name is Pete. How may I help
you today?
You: Art
Pete: Hi, may I have your first name please?
You: Hi, I'm looking for the download/installer for Acrobat X Pro
You: Any idea of the URL?
Pete: Just to know, did you already purchase the software?
You: Yes, that's why I need the download.
Pete: In that case, let me go ahead and transfer this chat to our Technical
Support Team to help you with the download, alright.
You: Do I have a choice?
Pete: You need to contact our technical team for the download, alright.
Pete: Let me transfer this chat, alright.
Pete: I am sorry, did I lose you?
You: No,
Pete: Thank yo for responding.
You: I'm waiting to be transferred -- I can't do it
Pete: *you.
You: and * you too,


Cheers,
Art

Art Campbell
   art.campb...@gmail.com
  ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and
a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson
  No disclaimers apply.
   DoD 358

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