Tables not FM's strong point? Hmmm, I haven't heard that one before, Nadine.
I've seen a prepress company buying FM only for its powerful table features.
They had to produce travel catalogs of several hundreds of pages full of
tables and pictures and they couldn't get the job done with Quark
*shrug*
Different users have different needs, and FM tables don't meet mine.
As to the OP's op, we shouldn't have to have a multitude of plug-ins for
FM. It should work the way it should work.
Nadine
On 12/02/2010 5:24 AM, Yves Barbion wrote:
Tables not FM's strong point? Hmmm, I haven't
Actually, I'd take the opposite viewpoint.
Because users have different needs, there should be a larger multitude
of plug-ins to accommodate those specializations and unique needs and
ways of working.
Art Campbell
art.campb...@gmail.com
... In my opinion, there's nothing in this
As you say, different users have different needs, but that does not mean
the tool is wrong in how it goes about it's work. Frame does work the way it
should, you just don't like or agree with how it defines that.
Word should too, and not reformat documents on a whim or renumber items
to the proverbial desert island would take me about a
millisecond.
-Fred Ridder
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 07:21:27 -0500
From: generic...@yahoo.ca
To: yves.barb...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Converting Rows to Headers
CC: framers@lists.frameusers.com
*shrug*
Different users have different needs
--- On Fri, 2/12/10, Fred Ridder docu...@hotmail.com wrote:
From: Fred Ridder docu...@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: Converting Rows to Headers
To: generic...@yahoo.ca, Yves Barbion yves.barb...@gmail.com
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Date: Friday, February 12, 2010, 8:57 AM
So what tool
come up with some very clever
solutions to unusaul requirements.
-Fred Ridder
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 06:41:07 -0800
From: generic...@yahoo.ca
Subject: RE: Converting Rows to Headers
To: yves.barb...@gmail.com; docu...@hotmail.com
CC: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Folks, I have no intention
I am genuinely curious what tool you have found to be superior at
handling tables and why.
Same here ... I have not looked much, but, like you, I use FrameMaker 8
and Word 2007 (different purposes) and I definitely prefer FM to Word
for the table handling.
Is there some other product that works
Ridder docu...@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: Converting Rows to Headers
To: generic...@yahoo.ca, Yves Barbion yves.barb...@gmail.com
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Date: Friday, February 12, 2010, 10:13 AM
I was *not* attempting to get into a pissing contest with
you. I am genuinely curious
] On Behalf Of Rick Quatro
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 8:27 AM
To: generic...@yahoo.ca
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Converting Rows to Headers
Hi Nadine,
I have been watching this thread with interest, since I am the author of the
TableCleaner plugin that others recommended. I
In circumstances where employers expect/demand more productivity from
fewer workers working longer hours and are professionals not on hourly
pay, there's no please, I want some more from you, it's just I want
more or else.
The roll of FrameMaker productivity plug-ins is not endless. Most give
a
fun on Friday)
===
-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com]on Behalf Of Rick Quatro
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 8:27 AM
To: generic...@yahoo.ca
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Converting Rows
Tables not FM's strong point? Hmmm, I haven't heard that one before, Nadine.
I've seen a prepress company buying FM only for its powerful table features.
They had to produce travel catalogs of several hundreds of pages full of
tables and pictures and they couldn't get the job done with Quark
*shrug*
Different users have different needs, and FM tables don't meet mine.
As to the OP's op, we shouldn't have to have a multitude of plug-ins for
FM. It should work the way it should work.
Nadine
On 12/02/2010 5:24 AM, Yves Barbion wrote:
> Tables not FM's strong point? Hmmm, I haven't
Actually, I'd take the opposite viewpoint.
Because users have different needs, there should be a larger multitude
of plug-ins to accommodate those specializations and unique needs and
ways of working.
Art Campbell
art.campbell at gmail.com
"... In my opinion, there's nothing in
As you say, different users have different needs, but that does not mean
the tool is wrong in how it goes about it's work.? Frame does work the way it
should, you just don't like or agree with how it defines that.
Word should too, and not reformat documents on a whim or renumber items
to the proverbial desert island would take me about a
millisecond.
-Fred Ridder
> Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 07:21:27 -0500
> From: generic668 at yahoo.ca
> To: yves.barbion at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: Converting Rows to Headers
> CC: framers at lists.frameusers.com
>
> *shrug*
>
--- On Fri, 2/12/10, Fred Ridder wrote:
> From: Fred Ridder
> Subject: RE: Converting Rows to Headers
> To: generic668 at yahoo.ca, "Yves Barbion"
> Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Date: Friday, February 12, 2010, 8:57 AM
>
>
>
>
>
> So
come up with some very clever
solutions to unusaul requirements.
-Fred Ridder
> Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 06:41:07 -0800
> From: generic668 at yahoo.ca
> Subject: RE: Converting Rows to Headers
> To: yves.barbion at gmail.com; docudoc at hotmail.com
> CC: framers at lists.frameusers.co
> I am genuinely curious what tool you have found to be superior at
handling tables and why.
Same here ... I have not looked much, but, like you, I use FrameMaker 8
and Word 2007 (different purposes) and I definitely prefer FM to Word
for the table handling.
Is there some other product that
> Subject: RE: Converting Rows to Headers
> To: generic668 at yahoo.ca, "Yves Barbion"
> Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Date: Friday, February 12, 2010, 10:13 AM
>
>
>
>
>
> I was *not* attempting to get into a pissing contest with
&
Hi Nadine,
I have been watching this thread with interest, since I am the author of the
TableCleaner plugin that others recommended. I will be honest and say that I
developed TableCleaner, not in the spirit of open source, but because I
wanted to solve the problems associated with working with
at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Rick Quatro
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 8:27 AM
To: generic668 at yahoo.ca
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Converting Rows to Headers
Hi Nadine,
I have been watching this thread with interest, since I am the author of the
TableCleaner plugin that others
In circumstances where employers expect/demand more productivity from
fewer workers working longer hours and are professionals not on hourly
pay, there's no "please, I want some more from you," it's just "I want
more or else."
The roll of FrameMaker productivity plug-ins is not endless. Most give
: Converting Rows to Headers
Hi Nadine,
I have been watching this thread with interest, since I am the author of the
TableCleaner plugin that others recommended. I will be honest and say that I
developed TableCleaner, not in the spirit of open source, but because I
wanted to solve the problems associated
You're missing Rick Quatro's TableCleaner plug in, a great tool that
does this conversion as well as a host of other table-related stuff.
It's a critical piece of my tool kit...
http://www.frameexpert.com/plugins/tablecleaner/index.htm
If you have a herd of these to do, Rick could probably whip
On 11/02/2010 11:58 AM, Howard Rauch wrote:
Frame 7.0 (my clients have not caught up to FM9 yet) Windows XP Pro
I have a number of multipage tables for which I need to convert the
first two table body rows (conventional) to header rows. So far the
only method I've found that works is to set
, February 11, 2010 8:58 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Converting Rows to Headers
Frame 7.0 (my clients have not caught up to FM9 yet)
Windows XP Pro
I have a number of multipage tables for which I need to convert the first
two table body rows (conventional) to header rows. So far
Howard Rauch wrote:
I have a number of multipage tables for which I need to convert the first
two table body rows (conventional) to header rows. So far the only method
I've found that works is to set up a new blank table having two header
rows and then copy the original table into the new
Frame 7.0 (my clients have not?caught up to FM9 yet)
Windows XP Pro
I have a number of multipage tables?for which I need to convert the first two
table body rows (conventional) to header rows. So far the only method I've
found that works is to set up a new blank table?having two header rows?and
You're missing Rick Quatro's TableCleaner plug in, a great tool that
does this conversion as well as a host of other table-related stuff.
It's a critical piece of my tool kit...
http://www.frameexpert.com/plugins/tablecleaner/index.htm
If you have a herd of these to do, Rick could probably whip
On 11/02/2010 11:58 AM, Howard Rauch wrote:
> Frame 7.0 (my clients have not caught up to FM9 yet) Windows XP Pro
>
> I have a number of multipage tables for which I need to convert the
> first two table body rows (conventional) to header rows. So far the
> only method I've found that works is to
, February 11, 2010 8:58 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Converting Rows to Headers
Frame 7.0 (my clients have not?caught up to FM9 yet)
Windows XP Pro
I have a number of multipage tables?for which I need to convert the first
two table body rows (conventional) to header rows. So far
I have found that tables have never been FM's strong point. What I find
especially annoying is the inability to split rows across pages.
Nadine
> It seems to
> me that with?its power, FM could easily convert?body rows
> into header rows. Am I missing something? I've checked Help
> and found it
Howard Rauch wrote:
> I have a number of multipage tables?for which I need to convert the first
> two table body rows (conventional) to header rows. So far the only method
> I've found that works is to set up a new blank table?having two header
> rows?and then copy the original table into the
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