Double-spacing a PDF output doc from a structured Frame book

2007-05-15 Thread Bob Williams

Hi All,

This may be one of those 'Well, if I KNEW which menu and function this was -
I'd have already done it myself' questions, but...

Wondering HOW to simply double-space my PDF output doc (from a structured
Frame book) - so that our writers can more easily make mark ups on the
hardcopy. They write - we production wonks put their stuff into the frame
books. (We like it this way - less chances for them to screw up the frame
files.)

- NOTE: As our structured Frame books are driven by fairly complex
templates (customer provided and managed), I'd rather find a way to simply
double-space the PDF from Acrobat or Distiller(?) rather than trying to
monkey around in the template (ugh).  Or, is there a way in Frame that
before I generate my .PS files to Distiller, that I can selectively invoke a
double-spacing of the output?

Thanks in advance for taking the time to read this - (bowing lowly and
respectfully) oh great oracles of framemaker / acrobat / distiller knowledge
bits.

Regards all,

Bob Williams
Bristol RI, USA
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Re: Double-spacing a PDF output doc from a structured Frame book

2007-05-15 Thread Art Campbell

If your tags now are single space, and you want double space output,
you need to change the tags. ;- )  Sounds like you want two sets of
templates, one for each spacing, but that means that all your
pagination will also change.

It'd be a lot easier if you just used Acrobat and Reader to cut in
electronic comments / edits.

Art

On 5/15/07, Bob Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi All,

This may be one of those 'Well, if I KNEW which menu and function this was -
I'd have already done it myself' questions, but...

Wondering HOW to simply double-space my PDF output doc (from a structured
Frame book) - so that our writers can more easily make mark ups on the
hardcopy. They write - we production wonks put their stuff into the frame
books. (We like it this way - less chances for them to screw up the frame
files.)

 - NOTE: As our structured Frame books are driven by fairly complex
templates (customer provided and managed), I'd rather find a way to simply
double-space the PDF from Acrobat or Distiller(?) rather than trying to
monkey around in the template (ugh).  Or, is there a way in Frame that
before I generate my .PS files to Distiller, that I can selectively invoke a
double-spacing of the output?

Thanks in advance for taking the time to read this - (bowing lowly and
respectfully) oh great oracles of framemaker / acrobat / distiller knowledge
bits.

Regards all,

Bob Williams
Bristol RI, USA
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RE: Double-spacing a PDF output doc from a structured Frame book

2007-05-15 Thread Dov Isaacs
Alas, there is no such thing as a double-spacing control
for PDF. PDF is a final form document format. The relationship
between your FrameMaker document and the resultant PostScript
and PDF files is that of matching the format 1:1 as much as
possible. Your only way to double space is to change
templates or more likely, paragraph styles.

- Dov
 

 -Original Message-
 From: Bob Williams
 Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 8:33 AM
 
 Hi All,
 
 This may be one of those 'Well, if I KNEW which menu and 
 function this was - I'd have already done it myself' questions, but...
 
 Wondering HOW to simply double-space my PDF output doc (from 
 a structured Frame book) - so that our writers can more 
 easily make mark ups on the hardcopy. They write - we 
 production wonks put their stuff into the frame books. (We 
 like it this way - less chances for them to screw up the frame
 files.)
 
  - NOTE: As our structured Frame books are driven by fairly 
 complex templates (customer provided and managed), I'd rather 
 find a way to simply double-space the PDF from Acrobat or 
 Distiller(?) rather than trying to monkey around in the 
 template (ugh).  Or, is there a way in Frame that before I 
 generate my .PS files to Distiller, that I can selectively 
 invoke a double-spacing of the output?
 
 Thanks in advance for taking the time to read this - (bowing lowly and
 respectfully) oh great oracles of framemaker / acrobat / 
 distiller knowledge bits.
 
 Regards all,
 
 Bob Williams
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Re: Double-spacing a PDF output doc from a structured Frame book

2007-05-15 Thread Daniel Emory
--- Bob Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 Wondering HOW to simply double-space my PDF output
 doc (from a structured
 Frame book) - so that our writers can more easily
 make mark ups on the
 hardcopy. They write - we production wonks put their
 stuff into the frame
 books. (We like it this way - less chances for them
 to screw up the frame
 files.)
1. Save your structured template under a different
name. Lts call it DblSpace.

2. In the DblSpace version of your template, modify
all Para formats to specify double space, ;eaving
everything else the same, and save it.

3. Open the file)s) you want to convert to
doublespace, select FileImport Formats to open the
Import Formats dialog

4. Spcify the DblSpace file in the Import from
Document slot.

5. In the Import Formats dialog, uncheck everything
but Paragraph formats, and execute the import action.



5. In the Import Formats dialog
 uncheck everything bu Paragraph formats
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Re: Double-spacing a PDF output doc from a structured Frame book

2007-05-15 Thread Peter Gold

Hi, Bob:

The true oracles have spoken and have left you wanting.G

I'm not smart enough to give up, so I'd suggest that if using 
the two-template approach in FM doesn't fit your workflow - 
and text for hard-copy printing and markup is your primary 
requirement - you could consider exporting the text from the 
PDF using full Acrobat, and opening it in FM for reformatting 
and printing to hard copy as double-spaced copy.


Although you can export graphics from PDFs, it's a separate 
task, and the graphics are numbered arbitrarily, so manually 
connecting them to their appropriate explanatory text is 
likely to be prone to human error.


HTH

Regards,

Peter Gold
KnowHow ProServices

Bob Williams wrote:

Hi All,

This may be one of those 'Well, if I KNEW which menu and function this 
was -

I'd have already done it myself' questions, but...

Wondering HOW to simply double-space my PDF output doc (from a structured
Frame book) - so that our writers can more easily make mark ups on the
hardcopy. They write - we production wonks put their stuff into the frame
books. (We like it this way - less chances for them to screw up the frame
files.)

- NOTE: As our structured Frame books are driven by fairly complex
templates (customer provided and managed), I'd rather find a way to simply
double-space the PDF from Acrobat or Distiller(?) rather than trying to
monkey around in the template (ugh).  Or, is there a way in Frame that
before I generate my .PS files to Distiller, that I can selectively 
invoke a

double-spacing of the output?

Thanks in advance for taking the time to read this - (bowing lowly and
respectfully) oh great oracles of framemaker / acrobat / distiller 
knowledge

bits.

Regards all,

Bob Williams
Bristol RI, USA


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Double-spacing a PDF output doc from a structured Frame book

2007-05-15 Thread Bob Williams
Hi All,

This may be one of those 'Well, if I KNEW which menu and function this was -
I'd have already done it myself' questions, but...

Wondering HOW to simply double-space my PDF output doc (from a structured
Frame book) - so that our writers can more easily make mark ups on the
hardcopy. They write - we production wonks put their stuff into the frame
books. (We like it this way - less chances for them to screw up the frame
files.)

 - NOTE: As our structured Frame books are driven by fairly complex
templates (customer provided and managed), I'd rather find a way to simply
double-space the PDF from Acrobat or Distiller(?) rather than trying to
monkey around in the template (ugh).  Or, is there a way in Frame that
before I generate my .PS files to Distiller, that I can selectively invoke a
double-spacing of the output?

Thanks in advance for taking the time to read this - (bowing lowly and
respectfully) oh great oracles of framemaker / acrobat / distiller knowledge
bits.

Regards all,

Bob Williams
Bristol RI, USA



Double-spacing a PDF output doc from a structured Frame book

2007-05-15 Thread Art Campbell
If your tags now are single space, and you want double space output,
you need to change the tags. ;- )  Sounds like you want two sets of
templates, one for each spacing, but that means that all your
pagination will also change.

It'd be a lot easier if you just used Acrobat and Reader to cut in
electronic comments / edits.

Art

On 5/15/07, Bob Williams  wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> This may be one of those 'Well, if I KNEW which menu and function this was -
> I'd have already done it myself' questions, but...
>
> Wondering HOW to simply double-space my PDF output doc (from a structured
> Frame book) - so that our writers can more easily make mark ups on the
> hardcopy. They write - we production wonks put their stuff into the frame
> books. (We like it this way - less chances for them to screw up the frame
> files.)
>
>  - NOTE: As our structured Frame books are driven by fairly complex
> templates (customer provided and managed), I'd rather find a way to simply
> double-space the PDF from Acrobat or Distiller(?) rather than trying to
> monkey around in the template (ugh).  Or, is there a way in Frame that
> before I generate my .PS files to Distiller, that I can selectively invoke a
> double-spacing of the output?
>
> Thanks in advance for taking the time to read this - (bowing lowly and
> respectfully) oh great oracles of framemaker / acrobat / distiller knowledge
> bits.
>
> Regards all,
>
> Bob Williams
> Bristol RI, USA
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   and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
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Double-spacing a PDF output doc from a structured Frame book

2007-05-15 Thread Dov Isaacs
Alas, there is no such thing as a double-spacing control
for PDF. PDF is a final form document format. The relationship
between your FrameMaker document and the resultant PostScript
and PDF files is that of matching the format 1:1 as much as
possible. Your only way to "double space" is to change
templates or more likely, paragraph styles.

- Dov


> -Original Message-
> From: Bob Williams
> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 8:33 AM
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> This may be one of those 'Well, if I KNEW which menu and 
> function this was - I'd have already done it myself' questions, but...
> 
> Wondering HOW to simply double-space my PDF output doc (from 
> a structured Frame book) - so that our writers can more 
> easily make mark ups on the hardcopy. They write - we 
> production wonks put their stuff into the frame books. (We 
> like it this way - less chances for them to screw up the frame
> files.)
> 
>  - NOTE: As our structured Frame books are driven by fairly 
> complex templates (customer provided and managed), I'd rather 
> find a way to simply double-space the PDF from Acrobat or 
> Distiller(?) rather than trying to monkey around in the 
> template (ugh).  Or, is there a way in Frame that before I 
> generate my .PS files to Distiller, that I can selectively 
> invoke a double-spacing of the output?
> 
> Thanks in advance for taking the time to read this - (bowing lowly and
> respectfully) oh great oracles of framemaker / acrobat / 
> distiller knowledge bits.
> 
> Regards all,
> 
> Bob Williams



Double-spacing a PDF output doc from a structured Frame book

2007-05-15 Thread Daniel Emory
--- Bob Williams 
wrote:
> Wondering HOW to simply double-space my PDF output
> doc (from a structured
> Frame book) - so that our writers can more easily
> make mark ups on the
> hardcopy. They write - we production wonks put their
> stuff into the frame
> books. (We like it this way - less chances for them
> to screw up the frame
> files.)
1. Save your structured template under a different
name. Lts call it DblSpace.

2. In the DblSpace version of your template, modify
all Para formats to specify double space, ;eaving
everything else the same, and save it.

3. Open the file)s) you want to convert to
doublespace, select File>Import Formats to open the
Import Formats dialog

4. Spcify the DblSpace file in the Import from
Document slot.

5. In the Import Formats dialog, uncheck everything
but Paragraph formats, and execute the import action.



5. In the Import Formats dialog
 uncheck everything bu Paragraph formats



Double-spacing a PDF output doc from a structured Frame book

2007-05-15 Thread Peter Gold
Hi, Bob:

The true oracles have spoken and have left you wanting.

I'm not smart enough to give up, so I'd suggest that if using 
the two-template approach in FM doesn't fit your workflow - 
and text for hard-copy printing and markup is your primary 
requirement - you could consider exporting the text from the 
PDF using full Acrobat, and opening it in FM for reformatting 
and printing to hard copy as double-spaced copy.

Although you can export graphics from PDFs, it's a separate 
task, and the graphics are numbered arbitrarily, so manually 
connecting them to their appropriate explanatory text is 
likely to be prone to human error.

HTH

Regards,

Peter Gold
KnowHow ProServices

Bob Williams wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> This may be one of those 'Well, if I KNEW which menu and function this 
> was -
> I'd have already done it myself' questions, but...
> 
> Wondering HOW to simply double-space my PDF output doc (from a structured
> Frame book) - so that our writers can more easily make mark ups on the
> hardcopy. They write - we production wonks put their stuff into the frame
> books. (We like it this way - less chances for them to screw up the frame
> files.)
> 
> - NOTE: As our structured Frame books are driven by fairly complex
> templates (customer provided and managed), I'd rather find a way to simply
> double-space the PDF from Acrobat or Distiller(?) rather than trying to
> monkey around in the template (ugh).  Or, is there a way in Frame that
> before I generate my .PS files to Distiller, that I can selectively 
> invoke a
> double-spacing of the output?
> 
> Thanks in advance for taking the time to read this - (bowing lowly and
> respectfully) oh great oracles of framemaker / acrobat / distiller 
> knowledge
> bits.
> 
> Regards all,
> 
> Bob Williams
> Bristol RI, USA