Re: Esc m p for anchored frames?
Hello Tammy, I put the anchor in an empty paragraph and give it a dedicated paragraph tag . In the Paragraph Designer, I specify that the line spacing of this paratag does not have to be fixed. The line spacing will then be adjusted automatically to the height of the graphic. Works nicely, also in WebWorks output. Good luck and best regards Yves Barbion Technical Writer Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor U&I Learning NV (formerly ATeK NV) Molenaarsstraat 111 B-9000 Gent Belgium Tel.: +32 9 265 74 72 Fax: +32 9 265 74 84 www.uni-learning.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, I have tried searching the archives for this, but the searchable messages don't go back far enough in time. I distinctly remember a discussion about what the m and p represented in the Esc m p command for anchored frames. Fred Ridder also supplied a succinct description of why this functions the way that it does - basically, when I place my anchored frame at a certain location, then use Esc m p, the frame is shrunk to the size of the graphic, but the whole frame with the graphic is shifted upwards - it does not remain in its original location - if this description makes sense. Any information on this subject is appreciated. TVB Tammy Van Boening Senior Technical Writer EFB Product Development Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. 303-328-4420 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/yves.barbion%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Esc m p for anchored frames? - Link
For everyone who asked: A known bug (feature?) in FrameMaker is that if you use the Esc-m-p Shrinkwrap command, it changes the anchor of the graphic from whatever it was to "At Insertion Point." Some unknown, smart Frame user created the ShrinkwrapAsIs dll that gets rid of this problem and leaves the graphic anchored as it originally was. I am making the ShrinkwrapAsIs dll available as a download for everyone who requested it, with the following caveats: * I currently use it with Frame 7.1. No compatibility or suitability or functionality is guaranteed with any version of Frame. * DUE DILIGENCE: I have googled "framemaker" and "shrinkwrap" and found no sites that indicate who might have created this DLL. The person who provided me with the DLL back in 2004 has no idea who created it. As the DLL was distributed without a README file, I will assume that it is in the public domain. It is not being offered for sale, nor described, on any site that I could find. * Should the original author come forward, I will add remove the DLL at his/her request, or modify the webpage to include proper credit. * I have noticed on my machine that I sometimes get a ghost image of the graphic being anchored. A screen refresh (Ctrl-L or PgUp/Dn) will take care of this. That said...here it is! Save the file to your Plugins folder. http://martinek.us/shrinkwrap.html Carla [EMAIL PROTECTED] - CONFIDENTIAL- This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential, and may also be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not review, use, copy, or distribute this message. If you receive this email in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply email and then delete this email. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Esc m p for anchored frames?
I always remember it as "Make Phit"... -Niels -> -Original Message- -> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -> On Behalf Of Pat Christenson -> Sent: 9. februar 2006 08:44 -> To: framers List -> Subject: Re: Esc m p for anchored frames? -> -> When I taught this shortcut in one of my FrameMaker classes, -> someone suggested it stood for "Make Perfect." -> -> I've always liked that and it makes the shortcut easier to remember. -> -> Pat Christenson -> -> ___ -> -> -> You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] -> -> To unsubscribe send a blank email to -> [EMAIL PROTECTED] -> or visit -> http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/nfa%40maconomy.dk -> -> Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit -> http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -> ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Esc m p for anchored frames?
When I taught this shortcut in one of my FrameMaker classes, someone suggested it stood for "Make Perfect." I've always liked that and it makes the shortcut easier to remember. Pat Christenson ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Esc m p for anchored frames?
LOL Someone else provided me with the DLL (I forget whom) so I don't have a problem with anyone distributing it. It works great...I love it. --Doug On 2/8/06, Martinek, Carla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Back in Dec. 2004, I brought this topic up. Doug B. sent me a DLL > (ShrinkWrapAsIs.dll). This allows you to use the Esc m p command, but > the anchored frame will stay as it was originally set. > > I won't redistribute the DLL without permission, but I've copied Doug at > the email I had for him from that time. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Esc m p for anchored frames?
Esc m p for anchored frames?
Tammy, The anchored frame moves because one of those commands sets the anchored frame to "At insertion point" instead of "Below insertion point," which I'm guessing was your setting before running the command. I don't know how to shrinkwrap without this change, but suspect someone else on the list can help with that. ~~ Linda G. Gallagher TechCom Plus, LLC Intelligent technical communication since 1993 Technical writing, help development, FrameMaker and WebWorks Publisher conversions lindag at techcomplus.com http://www.techcomplus.com/ 303-450-9076 800-500-3144 ~~ Manager, Consulting and Independent Contracting Special Interest Group Society for Technical Communication http://www.stcsig.org/cic/index.html ~~ -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+lindag=techcomplus@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+lindag=techcomplus.com at lists.frameusers.com]On Behalf Of Tammy.VanBoening at jeppesen.com Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 10:27 AM To: framers at frameusers.com Subject: Esc m p for anchored frames? Ok, I have tried searching the archives for this, but the searchable messages don't go back far enough in time. I distinctly remember a discussion about what the m and p represented in the Esc m p command for anchored frames. Fred Ridder also supplied a succinct description of why this functions the way that it does - basically, when I place my anchored frame at a certain location, then use Esc m p, the frame is shrunk to the size of the graphic, but the whole frame with the graphic is shifted upwards - it does not remain in its original location - if this description makes sense. Any information on this subject is appreciated. TVB Tammy Van Boening Senior Technical Writer EFB Product Development Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. 303-328-4420 tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as lindag at techcomplus.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/lindag%40techcomplus.com Send administrative questions to lisa at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Esc m p for anchored frames?
Tammy -- this behaviour was scripted for equations created using FrameMath. We just get the bonus of having it work for other anchored frames. AFAIK, there is no way to change this default behaviour. The workaround is to type Esc-s-a after Esc-m-p and choose the setting you want. With something like FrameScript or AutoIT (http://www.autoitscript.com/autoit3/), you could probably combine this set into a single function key. Grant ___ Grant Hogarth Equis International - A Reuters Company ghogarth at Equis.com / Grant.Hogarth at Reuters.com Direct: (+1) 801.270.3180 Main Fax: 801.265.3999 URL: www.equis.com TZ: Mountain (GMT -7) -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+grant.hogarth=reuters@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+grant.hogarth=reuters.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Tammy.VanBoening at jeppesen.com Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 10:27 AM To: framers at frameusers.com Subject: Esc m p for anchored frames? Ok, I have tried searching the archives for this, but the searchable messages don't go back far enough in time. I distinctly remember a discussion about what the m and p represented in the Esc m p command for anchored frames. Fred Ridder also supplied a succinct description of why this functions the way that it does - basically, when I place my anchored frame at a certain location, then use Esc m p, the frame is shrunk to the size of the graphic, but the whole frame with the graphic is shifted upwards - it does not remain in its original location - if this description makes sense. Any information on this subject is appreciated. TVB Tammy Van Boening Senior Technical Writer EFB Product Development Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. 303-328-4420 tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com ___
Esc m p for anchored frames?
Ok, I have tried searching the archives for this, but the searchable messages don't go back far enough in time. I distinctly remember a discussion about what the m and p represented in the Esc m p command for anchored frames. Fred Ridder also supplied a succinct description of why this functions the way that it does - basically, when I place my anchored frame at a certain location, then use Esc m p, the frame is shrunk to the size of the graphic, but the whole frame with the graphic is shifted upwards - it does not remain in its original location - if this description makes sense. Any information on this subject is appreciated. TVB Tammy Van Boening Senior Technical Writer EFB Product Development Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. 303-328-4420 tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com
RE: Esc m p for anchored frames?
Back in Dec. 2004, I brought this topic up. Doug B. sent me a DLL (ShrinkWrapAsIs.dll). This allows you to use the Esc m p command, but the anchored frame will stay as it was originally set. I won't redistribute the DLL without permission, but I've copied Doug at the email I had for him from that time. -Carla [EMAIL PROTECTED] - CONFIDENTIAL- This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential, and may also be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not review, use, copy, or distribute this message. If you receive this email in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply email and then delete this email. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Esc m p for anchored frames?
Daniel, Linda, Rick, Kay, Sarah, Grant, Debbi, Fred, et. al. Thanks for all of the information. Here's a quick summary of what I have learned both on and off-list: 1.) Esc m p - Escape math position. We inherited this function from its original purpose for equations in a Framemaker document (hence, math position). Shrinkwrapping an equation shrinks the surrounding anchored frame so that it's just large enough for the equation, changes the frame's anchoring position to At Insertion Point, and puts the insertion point after the frame. 2.) After I shrinkwrap a graphic, I can use Esc s a (wild guess here, maybe for special > anchored frame) to open the Special > Anchored Frame dialog box and set the position of the anchored frame as needed. Thanks one and all - I learn so much from this list every day! Everybody on this list has such a large brain (a direct reference to a local morning show here in Denver -locals will know what I mean!) TVB Tammy Van Boening Senior Technical Writer EFB Product Development Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. 303-328-4420 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Esc m p for anchored frames?
The explanation I had always heard was that the m p mnemonic stood for "math, package", and that the command was designed to do exactly what you want to do when you're inserting a mathematical equation constructed with some equation editing tool as an inline object in your text. When you're putting an anchored frame inline in a paragraph, the "at insertion point" frame position and minimized frame margins are exactly the properties you want. My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel. Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com) Intel Parsippany, NJ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel Emory Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 12:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Framers List Subject: Re: Esc m p for anchored frames? If you initially set the anchored frame postion to be Below Current Line, using ESC mp to shrink the size of the anchored frame to the size of the contained graphic object changes the anchored frame position to "At Insertion Point". To restore the original position after shrinking it, you must click on the anchored frame, open the Anchored Frame dialog, and and re-select "Below Current Line", and perhaps also restore the original "Alignment" position. Don't ask me why the ESC mp action forces these arbitrary changes in position and alignment. That's just the way it is. I suspect that this shortcut was added at the request of one of the large license holders, who explicitly asked for this behavior, and Frame Technology complied with the request. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Ok, > > I have tried searching the archives for this, but > the searchable messages > don't go back far enough in time. I distinctly > remember a discussion about > what the m and p represented in the Esc m p command > for anchored frames. > Fred Ridder also supplied a succinct description of > why this functions the > way that it does - basically, when I place my > anchored frame at a certain > location, then use Esc m p, the frame is shrunk to > the size of the > graphic, but the whole frame with the graphic is > shifted upwards - it does > not remain in its original location - if this > description makes sense. > > Any information on this subject is appreciated. Dan Emory & Associates FrameMaker/FrameMaker+SGML Document Design & Database Publishing DW Emory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/fred.ridder%40intel. com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Esc m p for anchored frames?
If you initially set the anchored frame postion to be Below Current Line, using ESC mp to shrink the size of the anchored frame to the size of the contained graphic object changes the anchored frame position to "At Insertion Point". To restore the original position after shrinking it, you must click on the anchored frame, open the Anchored Frame dialog, and and re-select "Below Current Line", and perhaps also restore the original "Alignment" position. Don't ask me why the ESC mp action forces these arbitrary changes in position and alignment. That's just the way it is. I suspect that this shortcut was added at the request of one of the large license holders, who explicitly asked for this behavior, and Frame Technology complied with the request. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Ok, > > I have tried searching the archives for this, but > the searchable messages > don't go back far enough in time. I distinctly > remember a discussion about > what the m and p represented in the Esc m p command > for anchored frames. > Fred Ridder also supplied a succinct description of > why this functions the > way that it does - basically, when I place my > anchored frame at a certain > location, then use Esc m p, the frame is shrunk to > the size of the > graphic, but the whole frame with the graphic is > shifted upwards - it does > not remain in its original location - if this > description makes sense. > > Any information on this subject is appreciated. Dan Emory & Associates FrameMaker/FrameMaker+SGML Document Design & Database Publishing DW Emory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Esc m p for anchored frames?
If you initially set the anchored frame postion to be Below Current Line, using ESC mp to shrink the size of the anchored frame to the size of the contained graphic object changes the anchored frame position to "At Insertion Point". To restore the original position after shrinking it, you must click on the anchored frame, open the Anchored Frame dialog, and and re-select "Below Current Line", and perhaps also restore the original "Alignment" position. Don't ask me why the ESC mp action forces these arbitrary changes in position and alignment. That's just the way it is. I suspect that this shortcut was added at the request of one of the large license holders, who explicitly asked for this behavior, and Frame Technology complied with the request. --- Tammy.VanBoening at jeppesen.com wrote: > Ok, > > I have tried searching the archives for this, but > the searchable messages > don't go back far enough in time. I distinctly > remember a discussion about > what the m and p represented in the Esc m p command > for anchored frames. > Fred Ridder also supplied a succinct description of > why this functions the > way that it does - basically, when I place my > anchored frame at a certain > location, then use Esc m p, the frame is shrunk to > the size of the > graphic, but the whole frame with the graphic is > shifted upwards - it does > not remain in its original location - if this > description makes sense. > > Any information on this subject is appreciated. Dan Emory & Associates FrameMaker/FrameMaker+SGML Document Design & Database Publishing DW Emory
RE: Esc m p for anchored frames?
Tammy, The anchored frame moves because one of those commands sets the anchored frame to "At insertion point" instead of "Below insertion point," which I'm guessing was your setting before running the command. I don't know how to shrinkwrap without this change, but suspect someone else on the list can help with that. ~~ Linda G. Gallagher TechCom Plus, LLC Intelligent technical communication since 1993 Technical writing, help development, FrameMaker and WebWorks Publisher conversions [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.techcomplus.com/ 303-450-9076 800-500-3144 ~~ Manager, Consulting and Independent Contracting Special Interest Group Society for Technical Communication http://www.stcsig.org/cic/index.html ~~ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 10:27 AM To: framers@frameusers.com Subject: Esc m p for anchored frames? Ok, I have tried searching the archives for this, but the searchable messages don't go back far enough in time. I distinctly remember a discussion about what the m and p represented in the Esc m p command for anchored frames. Fred Ridder also supplied a succinct description of why this functions the way that it does - basically, when I place my anchored frame at a certain location, then use Esc m p, the frame is shrunk to the size of the graphic, but the whole frame with the graphic is shifted upwards - it does not remain in its original location - if this description makes sense. Any information on this subject is appreciated. TVB Tammy Van Boening Senior Technical Writer EFB Product Development Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. 303-328-4420 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/lindag%40techcomplus.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Esc m p for anchored frames?
Tammy -- this behaviour was scripted for equations created using FrameMath. We just get the bonus of having it work for other anchored frames. AFAIK, there is no way to change this default behaviour. The workaround is to type Esc-s-a after Esc-m-p and choose the setting you want. With something like FrameScript or AutoIT (http://www.autoitscript.com/autoit3/), you could probably combine this set into a single function key. Grant ___ Grant Hogarth Equis International - A Reuters Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Direct: (+1) 801.270.3180 Main Fax: 801.265.3999 URL: www.equis.com TZ: Mountain (GMT -7) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 10:27 AM To: framers@frameusers.com Subject: Esc m p for anchored frames? Ok, I have tried searching the archives for this, but the searchable messages don't go back far enough in time. I distinctly remember a discussion about what the m and p represented in the Esc m p command for anchored frames. Fred Ridder also supplied a succinct description of why this functions the way that it does - basically, when I place my anchored frame at a certain location, then use Esc m p, the frame is shrunk to the size of the graphic, but the whole frame with the graphic is shifted upwards - it does not remain in its original location - if this description makes sense. Any information on this subject is appreciated. TVB Tammy Van Boening Senior Technical Writer EFB Product Development Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. 303-328-4420 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Esc m p for anchored frames?
Ok, I have tried searching the archives for this, but the searchable messages don't go back far enough in time. I distinctly remember a discussion about what the m and p represented in the Esc m p command for anchored frames. Fred Ridder also supplied a succinct description of why this functions the way that it does - basically, when I place my anchored frame at a certain location, then use Esc m p, the frame is shrunk to the size of the graphic, but the whole frame with the graphic is shifted upwards - it does not remain in its original location - if this description makes sense. Any information on this subject is appreciated. TVB Tammy Van Boening Senior Technical Writer EFB Product Development Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. 303-328-4420 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
