Re: FM 12 Kindle Page Breaks

[Amit Jha]

Hi Art_Campbell

You can do that using  pagination in conversion settings. 
http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/WS2d2a17056e2191985844af1a142be0be50b-7ffc.html

In publish pod (File -> Publish) 

 1. Go to Edit settings by clicking on settings button
 2. Go to conversion setting
 3. Select the FM Para tag (where you want to have page break) 
 4. Check pagination
 5. Click on Save & close and publish

You can also do the Special > Page Break operation as local override.

Please let us know if it is not working for you.

Thanks
Amit Jha

-Original Message-

On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Scott Prentice wrote:

>  Art...
>
> Unfortunately this CSS setting isn't honored by most readers .. 
> Kindles are typically worse in this regard than EPUB readers.
>
> The only guaranteed way to get a page break is to force the content 
> into a separate content file in the package. You should be able to do 
> this by starting a new FM file for each place you want a page break. I 
> assume you're generating the MOBI from a FM book?
>
> Cheers,
>
> ...scott
>
>
> On 4/21/14 6:26 AM, Rick Quatro wrote:
>
>  Hi Art,
>
>
>
> I don't know if there is a way to do this directly from FM12 to mobi. 
> If you go to Epub, you can modify the CSS to give you page breaks then 
> convert the Epub to mobi. There are two CSS declarations that you can try:
>
>
>
> page-break-before: always;
>
>
>
> or
>
>
>
> page-break-after: always;
>
>
>
> You will probably use the first one with the CSS for your headers that 
> you want to force page breaks on. Please let me know if you have any 
> questions or comments. Thank you very much.
>
>
>
> Rick
>
>
>
> Rick Quatro
>
> Carmen Publishing Inc.
>
> 585-366-4017
>
> r...@frameexpert.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [ 
> mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com eusers.com>]
> *On Behalf Of *Art Campbell
> *Sent:* Monday, April 21, 2014 8:54 AM
> *To:* Framers List; Free Framers
> *Subject:* FM 12 Kindle Page Breaks
>
>
>
> I'm publishing a book into Amazon's Kindle format, mobi, and was 
> hoping someone knows how to force a page break by adding it to a FM 
> para tag or other FM code.
>
>
>
> Any ideas?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Art
>
>
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Re: FM 12 Kindle Page Breaks

[Robert Lauriston]

I'd call Adobe support on that. MOBI is one of FM12's native output
formats and if it's not creating page breaks in the same places as
other formats, that's a bug.

On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 10:00 AM, Art Campbell  wrote:
> Thanks, Rick and Scott -- the embedded tag start at top isn't working, so it
> looks like the file will be sliced and diced a bit.
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Re: FM 12 Kindle Page Breaks

[Scott Prentice]

That's basically what FM12 does. It generates an EPUB then converts it 
to MOBI using the KindleGen utility (better than using Calibre, IMHO).


...scott

On 4/21/14 10:43 AM, Jeff Coatsworth wrote:


What if you sent it to ePUB first and then used Calibre to convert it 
to MOBI?


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*To:* Scott Prentice
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*Subject:* Re: FM 12 Kindle Page Breaks

Thanks, Rick and Scott -- the embedded tag start at top isn't working, 
so it looks like the file will be sliced and diced a bit.



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On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Scott Prentice <mailto:s...@leximation.com>> wrote:


Art...

Unfortunately this CSS setting isn't honored by most readers .. 
Kindles are typically worse in this regard than EPUB readers.


The only guaranteed way to get a page break is to force the content 
into a separate content file in the package. You should be able to do 
this by starting a new FM file for each place you want a page break. I 
assume you're generating the MOBI from a FM book?


Cheers,

...scott


On 4/21/14 6:26 AM, Rick Quatro wrote:

Hi Art,

I don't know if there is a way to do this directly from FM12 to
mobi. If you go to Epub, you can modify the CSS to give you page
breaks then convert the Epub to mobi. There are two CSS
declarations that you can try:

page-break-before: always;

or

page-break-after: always;

You will probably use the first one with the CSS for your headers
that you want to force page breaks on. Please let me know if you
have any questions or comments. Thank you very much.

Rick

Rick Quatro

Carmen Publishing Inc.

585-366-4017 

r...@frameexpert.com <mailto:r...@frameexpert.com>

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Campbell
*Sent:* Monday, April 21, 2014 8:54 AM
*To:* Framers List; Free Framers
*Subject:* FM 12 Kindle Page Breaks

I'm publishing a book into Amazon's Kindle format, mobi, and was
hoping someone knows how to force a page break by adding it to a
FM para tag or other FM code.

Any ideas?

Thanks,

Art

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Re: FM 12 Kindle Page Breaks

[Scott Prentice]

EPUB will have the same problems. Most readers don't honor the 
page-break CSS rules, so that can't really be used. If you want page 
breaks, you'd have to have the content in separate FM files to start with.


...scott

On 4/21/14 11:34 AM, Art Campbell wrote:
That's kind of along the same lines I was thinking -- if it's a direct 
output format, it should be idiot proof. But I enjoy pushing the 
boundaries. ;- )


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On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 2:01 PM, Robert Lauriston 
mailto:rob...@lauriston.com>> wrote:


I'd call Adobe support on that. MOBI is one of FM12's native output
formats and if it's not creating page breaks in the same places as
other formats, that's a bug.

On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 10:00 AM, Art Campbell
mailto:art.campb...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Thanks, Rick and Scott -- the embedded tag start at top isn't
working, so it
> looks like the file will be sliced and diced a bit.




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Re: FM 12 Kindle Page Breaks

[Art Campbell]

That's kind of along the same lines I was thinking -- if it's a direct
output format, it should be idiot proof. But I enjoy pushing the
boundaries. ;- )

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On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 2:01 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote:

> I'd call Adobe support on that. MOBI is one of FM12's native output
> formats and if it's not creating page breaks in the same places as
> other formats, that's a bug.
>
> On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 10:00 AM, Art Campbell 
> wrote:
> > Thanks, Rick and Scott -- the embedded tag start at top isn't working,
> so it
> > looks like the file will be sliced and diced a bit.
>
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RE: FM 12 Kindle Page Breaks

[Jeff Coatsworth]

What if you sent it to ePUB first and then used Calibre to convert it to MOBI?

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Sent: April-21-14 1:00 PM
To: Scott Prentice
Cc: Framers List; Free Framers
Subject: Re: FM 12 Kindle Page Breaks

Thanks, Rick and Scott -- the embedded tag start at top isn't working, so it 
looks like the file will be sliced and diced a bit.

Art Campbell
  art.campb...@gmail.com<mailto:art.campb...@gmail.com>
  "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a 
redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
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On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Scott Prentice 
mailto:s...@leximation.com>> wrote:
Art...

Unfortunately this CSS setting isn't honored by most readers .. Kindles are 
typically worse in this regard than EPUB readers.

The only guaranteed way to get a page break is to force the content into a 
separate content file in the package. You should be able to do this by starting 
a new FM file for each place you want a page break. I assume you're generating 
the MOBI from a FM book?

Cheers,

...scott

On 4/21/14 6:26 AM, Rick Quatro wrote:
Hi Art,

I don't know if there is a way to do this directly from FM12 to mobi. If you go 
to Epub, you can modify the CSS to give you page breaks then convert the Epub 
to mobi. There are two CSS declarations that you can try:

page-break-before: always;

or

page-break-after: always;

You will probably use the first one with the CSS for your headers that you want 
to force page breaks on. Please let me know if you have any questions or 
comments. Thank you very much.

Rick

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-366-4017
r...@frameexpert.com<mailto:r...@frameexpert.com>



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Sent: Monday, April 21, 2014 8:54 AM
To: Framers List; Free Framers
Subject: FM 12 Kindle Page Breaks

I'm publishing a book into Amazon's Kindle format, mobi, and was hoping someone 
knows how to force a page break by adding it to a FM para tag or other FM code.

Any ideas?

Thanks,
Art

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Re: FM 12 Kindle Page Breaks

[Art Campbell]

Thanks, Rick and Scott -- the embedded tag start at top isn't working, so
it looks like the file will be sliced and diced a bit.

Art Campbell
  art.campb...@gmail.com
  "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and
a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
  No disclaimers apply.
   DoD 358

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On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Scott Prentice wrote:

>  Art...
>
> Unfortunately this CSS setting isn't honored by most readers .. Kindles
> are typically worse in this regard than EPUB readers.
>
> The only guaranteed way to get a page break is to force the content into a
> separate content file in the package. You should be able to do this by
> starting a new FM file for each place you want a page break. I assume
> you're generating the MOBI from a FM book?
>
> Cheers,
>
> ...scott
>
>
> On 4/21/14 6:26 AM, Rick Quatro wrote:
>
>  Hi Art,
>
>
>
> I don't know if there is a way to do this directly from FM12 to mobi. If
> you go to Epub, you can modify the CSS to give you page breaks then convert
> the Epub to mobi. There are two CSS declarations that you can try:
>
>
>
> page-break-before: always;
>
>
>
> or
>
>
>
> page-break-after: always;
>
>
>
> You will probably use the first one with the CSS for your headers that you
> want to force page breaks on. Please let me know if you have any questions
> or comments. Thank you very much.
>
>
>
> Rick
>
>
>
> Rick Quatro
>
> Carmen Publishing Inc.
>
> 585-366-4017
>
> r...@frameexpert.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [
> mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com]
> *On Behalf Of *Art Campbell
> *Sent:* Monday, April 21, 2014 8:54 AM
> *To:* Framers List; Free Framers
> *Subject:* FM 12 Kindle Page Breaks
>
>
>
> I'm publishing a book into Amazon's Kindle format, mobi, and was hoping
> someone knows how to force a page break by adding it to a FM para tag or
> other FM code.
>
>
>
> Any ideas?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Art
>
>
>
> Art Campbell
> art.campb...@gmail.com
>   "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent
> and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
>   No disclaimers apply.
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>
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Re: FM 12 Kindle Page Breaks

[Scott Prentice]

Art...

Unfortunately this CSS setting isn't honored by most readers .. Kindles 
are typically worse in this regard than EPUB readers.


The only guaranteed way to get a page break is to force the content into 
a separate content file in the package. You should be able to do this by 
starting a new FM file for each place you want a page break. I assume 
you're generating the MOBI from a FM book?


Cheers,

...scott


On 4/21/14 6:26 AM, Rick Quatro wrote:


Hi Art,

I don't know if there is a way to do this directly from FM12 to mobi. 
If you go to Epub, you can modify the CSS to give you page breaks then 
convert the Epub to mobi. There are two CSS declarations that you can try:


page-break-before: always;

or

page-break-after: always;

You will probably use the first one with the CSS for your headers that 
you want to force page breaks on. Please let me know if you have any 
questions or comments. Thank you very much.


Rick

Rick Quatro

Carmen Publishing Inc.

585-366-4017

r...@frameexpert.com

*From:*framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] *On Behalf Of *Art Campbell

*Sent:* Monday, April 21, 2014 8:54 AM
*To:* Framers List; Free Framers
*Subject:* FM 12 Kindle Page Breaks

I'm publishing a book into Amazon's Kindle format, mobi, and was 
hoping someone knows how to force a page break by adding it to a FM 
para tag or other FM code.


Any ideas?

Thanks,

Art

Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com <mailto:art.campb...@gmail.com>
  "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 
Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
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RE: FM 12 Kindle Page Breaks

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Art,

 

I don't know if there is a way to do this directly from FM12 to mobi. If you go 
to Epub, you can modify the CSS to give you page breaks then convert the Epub 
to mobi. There are two CSS declarations that you can try:

 

page-break-before: always;

 

or

 

page-break-after: always;

 

You will probably use the first one with the CSS for your headers that you want 
to force page breaks on. Please let me know if you have any questions or 
comments. Thank you very much.

 

Rick

 

Rick Quatro

Carmen Publishing Inc.

585-366-4017

r...@frameexpert.com

 

 

 

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To: Framers List; Free Framers
Subject: FM 12 Kindle Page Breaks

 

I'm publishing a book into Amazon's Kindle format, mobi, and was hoping someone 
knows how to force a page break by adding it to a FM para tag or other FM code.

 

Any ideas?

 

Thanks,

Art

 

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FM 12 Kindle Page Breaks

[Art Campbell]

I'm publishing a book into Amazon's Kindle format, mobi, and was hoping
someone knows how to force a page break by adding it to a FM para tag or
other FM code.

Any ideas?

Thanks,
Art

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