Frame 9 UI Scren Mode and Tab Icon Issues

2009-03-25 Thread Mike Wickham
Hi, Megha,

I have the same problem on my computer. Toggling the screen mode often 
presents a different page than the one I am currently viewing, even if I 
clicked in the page to be sure it is the active page. I did some playing and 
discovered the following:

1. Toggling screen mode works fine, _if_ .fm files are the only files open.

2. If I also open a .book file, screen mode toggling breaks. Toggling to 
Full Screen or Full Screen with Menus causes the view to jump to a different 
page. Toggling to Standard Screen mode displays the correct page, however.

3. So it appears that having a .book file open is causing a conflict.

4. Note:  I removed all plugins before testing, to be sure it wasn't a 
plugin conflict.

Mike Wickham

- Original Message - 
From: "Megha Chaitanya" 
To: "Pinkham, Jim" ; 
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 6:39 AM
Subject: RE: Frame 9 UI Scren Mode and Tab Icon Issues


>* I work for Adobe*
>
> Hi Jim,
>
> I am not able to reproduce the issue. What workspace are you using? Can 
> you send me the frame file and steps which you are performing?
>
> Regards,
> Megha
>




Frame 9 UI Scren Mode and Tab Icon Issues

2009-03-25 Thread Megha Chaitanya
* I work for Adobe*

Hi Jim,

I am not able to reproduce the issue. What workspace are you using? Can you 
send me the frame file and steps which you are performing?

Regards,
Megha


-Original Message-
From: Pinkham, Jim [mailto:jim.pink...@voith.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 2:00 AM
To: Megha Chaitanya; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Frame 9 UI Scren Mode and Tab Icon Issues

Hi, Megha,

FWIW and to add what may be a slightly new wrinkle to #2: I'm using FM 9
in TCS 2, with the latest patch, and XP SP 2, and I find that when I
toggle in and out of the UI that I do not come back to the spot in the
chapter where I was working. Instead, I land at the end of the chapter
and have to find my way back. Any suggestions?

Jim


-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Megha
Chaitanya
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 8:11 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Frame 9 UI Scren Mode and Tab Icon Issues


Hi Oran,

Regarding your points, 

1. I cannot get the Paragraph Formatting tool bar Tab icons to work. On
earlier versions I could drag them onto the ruler to add new tabs. While
I can move existing tabs on the ruler, I cannot seem to add new with the
icons. The tab icons seem inoperative, as I cannot make to do anything
through dragging, double-click, etc. I do see the "New Tab Stop" text in
the paragraph designer flicker when I click an icon, but nothing else
happens . 


 To add a tab stop, click a tab stop symbol from Paragraph Format
toolbar and click the desired position below the top ruler. Refer to
FrameMaker 9 user guide , page 43.


2. If I use the "Screen Mode" icon to select? "Full Screen Mode" the
menus correctly disappear. So far the only way I have found to get back
out of that mode is to close and reopen the file using keyboard
shortcuts. (Ctrl-W) I cannot find a keyboard shortcut or key to get back
out, and menu is gone of course. What is interesting is that re-opening
the file gives you the menus back, but "Screen Mode" remains in "Full
Screen Mode" (checkmark) even though it is not. 

 To change the screen mode :
-> Right click on the grey area outside document window, then choose
Toggle Screen Mode from the context menu.
->You can use the following keyboard shortcuts :
Esc S M s for standard screen mode.  
Esc S M u for full screen with user interface.
Esc SM f for full screen.
Esc SM t to toggle screen mode.


Regards,
Megha 

--

Message: 1
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 19:50:07 +0000 (UTC)
From: Oran Petersen 
Subject: Frame 9 UI Scren Mode and Tab Icon Issues
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
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I am using TCS2 with Frame 9 with the patch on XP SP3. 

For me the new user interface seems a little confusing and inconsistent
in how it works, but I am figuring out most of it by experimentation and
trial & error. The Help file is mostly worthless. Seems they forgot to
update it for the new interface and icons in many cases. 



Two UI items however, escape me. 



1. I cannot get the Paragraph Formatting tool bar Tab icons to work. On
earlier versions I could drag them onto the ruler to add new tabs. While
I can move existing tabs on the ruler, I cannot seem to add new with the
icons. The tab icons seem inoperative, as I cannot make to do anything
through dragging, double-click, etc. I do see the "New Tab Stop" text in
the paragraph designer flicker when I click an icon, but nothing else
happens . 



2. If I use the "Screen Mode" icon to select? "Full Screen Mode" the
menus correctly disappear. So far the only way I have found to get back
out of that mode is to close and reopen the file using keyboard
shortcuts. (Ctrl-W) I cannot find a keyboard shortcut or key to get back
out, and menu is gone of course. What is interesting is that re-opening
the file gives you the menus back, but "Screen Mode" remains in "Full
Screen Mode" (checkmark) even though it is not. 



With respect to "Recent Items" on the splash screen and "File>History" I
find expected behavior both before and after installing the patch. Seems
to work OK for me. 

Oran Petersen 



------

Message: 2
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 20:05:45 -0500
From: "Mike Wickham" 
Subject: Re: Frame 9 UI Scren Mode and Tab Icon Issues
To: "Oran Petersen" ,

Message-ID: <065D5B78791A4CE08D58120A4FD9A21B at plecopress>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8";
reply-type=original

> 2. If I use the "Screen Mode" icon to select "Full Screen Mode" the 

Re: Frame 9 UI Scren Mode and Tab Icon Issues

2009-03-25 Thread Mike Wickham
Hi, Megha,

I have the same problem on my computer. Toggling the screen mode often 
presents a different page than the one I am currently viewing, even if I 
clicked in the page to be sure it is the active page. I did some playing and 
discovered the following:

1. Toggling screen mode works fine, _if_ .fm files are the only files open.

2. If I also open a .book file, screen mode toggling breaks. Toggling to 
Full Screen or Full Screen with Menus causes the view to jump to a different 
page. Toggling to Standard Screen mode displays the correct page, however.

3. So it appears that having a .book file open is causing a conflict.

4. Note:  I removed all plugins before testing, to be sure it wasn't a 
plugin conflict.

Mike Wickham

- Original Message - 
From: "Megha Chaitanya" 
To: "Pinkham, Jim" ; 
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 6:39 AM
Subject: RE: Frame 9 UI Scren Mode and Tab Icon Issues


>* I work for Adobe*
>
> Hi Jim,
>
> I am not able to reproduce the issue. What workspace are you using? Can 
> you send me the frame file and steps which you are performing?
>
> Regards,
> Megha
>


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Frame 9 UI Scren Mode and Tab Icon Issues

2009-03-25 Thread Pinkham, Jim
I'm using the Authoring workspace, Megha, and I can reproduce this
consistently. For example, in the file I will send you under separate
cover, I was working on page 8. When I clicked on the "UI visibility"
button, it immediately took me to page 10, the last page in the chapter.
When I clicked again to return, it brought me back to Page 6.

Thanks again for your help on this.

Jim 

-Original Message-
From: Megha Chaitanya [mailto:me...@adobe.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 6:39 AM
To: Pinkham, Jim; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Frame 9 UI Scren Mode and Tab Icon Issues

* I work for Adobe*

Hi Jim,

I am not able to reproduce the issue. What workspace are you using? Can
you send me the frame file and steps which you are performing?

Regards,
Megha


-Original Message-
From: Pinkham, Jim [mailto:jim.pink...@voith.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 2:00 AM
To: Megha Chaitanya; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Frame 9 UI Scren Mode and Tab Icon Issues

Hi, Megha,

FWIW and to add what may be a slightly new wrinkle to #2: I'm using FM 9
in TCS 2, with the latest patch, and XP SP 2, and I find that when I
toggle in and out of the UI that I do not come back to the spot in the
chapter where I was working. Instead, I land at the end of the chapter
and have to find my way back. Any suggestions?

Jim


-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Megha
Chaitanya
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 8:11 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Frame 9 UI Scren Mode and Tab Icon Issues


Hi Oran,

Regarding your points, 

1. I cannot get the Paragraph Formatting tool bar Tab icons to work. On
earlier versions I could drag them onto the ruler to add new tabs. While
I can move existing tabs on the ruler, I cannot seem to add new with the
icons. The tab icons seem inoperative, as I cannot make to do anything
through dragging, double-click, etc. I do see the "New Tab Stop" text in
the paragraph designer flicker when I click an icon, but nothing else
happens . 


 To add a tab stop, click a tab stop symbol from Paragraph Format
toolbar and click the desired position below the top ruler. Refer to
FrameMaker 9 user guide , page 43.


2. If I use the "Screen Mode" icon to select? "Full Screen Mode" the
menus correctly disappear. So far the only way I have found to get back
out of that mode is to close and reopen the file using keyboard
shortcuts. (Ctrl-W) I cannot find a keyboard shortcut or key to get back
out, and menu is gone of course. What is interesting is that re-opening
the file gives you the menus back, but "Screen Mode" remains in "Full
Screen Mode" (checkmark) even though it is not. 

 To change the screen mode :
-> Right click on the grey area outside document window, then choose
Toggle Screen Mode from the context menu.
->You can use the following keyboard shortcuts :
Esc S M s for standard screen mode.  
Esc S M u for full screen with user interface.
Esc SM f for full screen.
Esc SM t to toggle screen mode.


Regards,
Megha 

--

Message: 1
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 19:50:07 + (UTC)
From: Oran Petersen 
Subject: Frame 9 UI Scren Mode and Tab Icon Issues
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Message-ID:

<1081429083.7173841237665007668.JavaMail.root at sz0127a.emeryville.ca.mail
.comcast.net>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8




I am using TCS2 with Frame 9 with the patch on XP SP3. 

For me the new user interface seems a little confusing and inconsistent
in how it works, but I am figuring out most of it by experimentation and
trial & error. The Help file is mostly worthless. Seems they forgot to
update it for the new interface and icons in many cases. 



Two UI items however, escape me. 



1. I cannot get the Paragraph Formatting tool bar Tab icons to work. On
earlier versions I could drag them onto the ruler to add new tabs. While
I can move existing tabs on the ruler, I cannot seem to add new with the
icons. The tab icons seem inoperative, as I cannot make to do anything
through dragging, double-click, etc. I do see the "New Tab Stop" text in
the paragraph designer flicker when I click an icon, but nothing else
happens . 



2. If I use the "Screen Mode" icon to select? "Full Screen Mode" the
menus correctly disappear. So far the only way I have found to get back
out of that mode is to close and reopen the file using keyboard
shortcuts. (Ctrl-W) I cannot find a keyboard shortcut or key to get back
out, and menu is gone of course. What is interesting is that re-opening
the file gives you the menus back, but "Screen Mode" remains in "Full
Screen Mode" (checkmark) even though it is not. 



With respect to "Recent Items" on 

RE: Frame 9 UI Scren Mode and Tab Icon Issues

2009-03-25 Thread Pinkham, Jim
I'm using the Authoring workspace, Megha, and I can reproduce this
consistently. For example, in the file I will send you under separate
cover, I was working on page 8. When I clicked on the "UI visibility"
button, it immediately took me to page 10, the last page in the chapter.
When I clicked again to return, it brought me back to Page 6.

Thanks again for your help on this.

Jim 

-Original Message-
From: Megha Chaitanya [mailto:me...@adobe.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 6:39 AM
To: Pinkham, Jim; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Frame 9 UI Scren Mode and Tab Icon Issues

* I work for Adobe*

Hi Jim,

I am not able to reproduce the issue. What workspace are you using? Can
you send me the frame file and steps which you are performing?

Regards,
Megha


-Original Message-
From: Pinkham, Jim [mailto:jim.pink...@voith.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 2:00 AM
To: Megha Chaitanya; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Frame 9 UI Scren Mode and Tab Icon Issues

Hi, Megha,

FWIW and to add what may be a slightly new wrinkle to #2: I'm using FM 9
in TCS 2, with the latest patch, and XP SP 2, and I find that when I
toggle in and out of the UI that I do not come back to the spot in the
chapter where I was working. Instead, I land at the end of the chapter
and have to find my way back. Any suggestions?

Jim


-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Megha
Chaitanya
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 8:11 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Frame 9 UI Scren Mode and Tab Icon Issues


Hi Oran,

Regarding your points, 

1. I cannot get the Paragraph Formatting tool bar Tab icons to work. On
earlier versions I could drag them onto the ruler to add new tabs. While
I can move existing tabs on the ruler, I cannot seem to add new with the
icons. The tab icons seem inoperative, as I cannot make to do anything
through dragging, double-click, etc. I do see the "New Tab Stop" text in
the paragraph designer flicker when I click an icon, but nothing else
happens . 


 To add a tab stop, click a tab stop symbol from Paragraph Format
toolbar and click the desired position below the top ruler. Refer to
FrameMaker 9 user guide , page 43.


2. If I use the "Screen Mode" icon to select? "Full Screen Mode" the
menus correctly disappear. So far the only way I have found to get back
out of that mode is to close and reopen the file using keyboard
shortcuts. (Ctrl-W) I cannot find a keyboard shortcut or key to get back
out, and menu is gone of course. What is interesting is that re-opening
the file gives you the menus back, but "Screen Mode" remains in "Full
Screen Mode" (checkmark) even though it is not. 

 To change the screen mode :
-> Right click on the grey area outside document window, then choose
Toggle Screen Mode from the context menu.
->You can use the following keyboard shortcuts :
Esc S M s for standard screen mode.  
Esc S M u for full screen with user interface.
Esc SM f for full screen.
Esc SM t to toggle screen mode.


Regards,
Megha 

--

Message: 1
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 19:50:07 + (UTC)
From: Oran Petersen 
Subject: Frame 9 UI Scren Mode and Tab Icon Issues
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Message-ID:

<1081429083.7173841237665007668.javamail.r...@sz0127a.emeryville.ca.mail
.comcast.net>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8




I am using TCS2 with Frame 9 with the patch on XP SP3. 

For me the new user interface seems a little confusing and inconsistent
in how it works, but I am figuring out most of it by experimentation and
trial & error. The Help file is mostly worthless. Seems they forgot to
update it for the new interface and icons in many cases. 



Two UI items however, escape me. 



1. I cannot get the Paragraph Formatting tool bar Tab icons to work. On
earlier versions I could drag them onto the ruler to add new tabs. While
I can move existing tabs on the ruler, I cannot seem to add new with the
icons. The tab icons seem inoperative, as I cannot make to do anything
through dragging, double-click, etc. I do see the "New Tab Stop" text in
the paragraph designer flicker when I click an icon, but nothing else
happens . 



2. If I use the "Screen Mode" icon to select? "Full Screen Mode" the
menus correctly disappear. So far the only way I have found to get back
out of that mode is to close and reopen the file using keyboard
shortcuts. (Ctrl-W) I cannot find a keyboard shortcut or key to get back
out, and menu is gone of course. What is interesting is that re-opening
the file gives you the menus back, but "Screen Mode" remains in "Full
Screen Mode" (checkmark) even though it is not. 



With respect to "Recent Items" on 

RE: Frame 9 UI Scren Mode and Tab Icon Issues

2009-03-25 Thread Megha Chaitanya
* I work for Adobe*

Hi Jim,

I am not able to reproduce the issue. What workspace are you using? Can you 
send me the frame file and steps which you are performing?

Regards,
Megha


-Original Message-
From: Pinkham, Jim [mailto:jim.pink...@voith.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 2:00 AM
To: Megha Chaitanya; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Frame 9 UI Scren Mode and Tab Icon Issues

Hi, Megha,

FWIW and to add what may be a slightly new wrinkle to #2: I'm using FM 9
in TCS 2, with the latest patch, and XP SP 2, and I find that when I
toggle in and out of the UI that I do not come back to the spot in the
chapter where I was working. Instead, I land at the end of the chapter
and have to find my way back. Any suggestions?

Jim


-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Megha
Chaitanya
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 8:11 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Frame 9 UI Scren Mode and Tab Icon Issues


Hi Oran,

Regarding your points, 

1. I cannot get the Paragraph Formatting tool bar Tab icons to work. On
earlier versions I could drag them onto the ruler to add new tabs. While
I can move existing tabs on the ruler, I cannot seem to add new with the
icons. The tab icons seem inoperative, as I cannot make to do anything
through dragging, double-click, etc. I do see the "New Tab Stop" text in
the paragraph designer flicker when I click an icon, but nothing else
happens . 


 To add a tab stop, click a tab stop symbol from Paragraph Format
toolbar and click the desired position below the top ruler. Refer to
FrameMaker 9 user guide , page 43.


2. If I use the "Screen Mode" icon to select? "Full Screen Mode" the
menus correctly disappear. So far the only way I have found to get back
out of that mode is to close and reopen the file using keyboard
shortcuts. (Ctrl-W) I cannot find a keyboard shortcut or key to get back
out, and menu is gone of course. What is interesting is that re-opening
the file gives you the menus back, but "Screen Mode" remains in "Full
Screen Mode" (checkmark) even though it is not. 

 To change the screen mode :
-> Right click on the grey area outside document window, then choose
Toggle Screen Mode from the context menu.
->You can use the following keyboard shortcuts :
Esc S M s for standard screen mode.  
Esc S M u for full screen with user interface.
Esc SM f for full screen.
Esc SM t to toggle screen mode.


Regards,
Megha 

--

Message: 1
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 19:50:07 +0000 (UTC)
From: Oran Petersen 
Subject: Frame 9 UI Scren Mode and Tab Icon Issues
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Message-ID:

<1081429083.7173841237665007668.javamail.r...@sz0127a.emeryville.ca.mail
.comcast.net>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8




I am using TCS2 with Frame 9 with the patch on XP SP3. 

For me the new user interface seems a little confusing and inconsistent
in how it works, but I am figuring out most of it by experimentation and
trial & error. The Help file is mostly worthless. Seems they forgot to
update it for the new interface and icons in many cases. 



Two UI items however, escape me. 



1. I cannot get the Paragraph Formatting tool bar Tab icons to work. On
earlier versions I could drag them onto the ruler to add new tabs. While
I can move existing tabs on the ruler, I cannot seem to add new with the
icons. The tab icons seem inoperative, as I cannot make to do anything
through dragging, double-click, etc. I do see the "New Tab Stop" text in
the paragraph designer flicker when I click an icon, but nothing else
happens . 



2. If I use the "Screen Mode" icon to select? "Full Screen Mode" the
menus correctly disappear. So far the only way I have found to get back
out of that mode is to close and reopen the file using keyboard
shortcuts. (Ctrl-W) I cannot find a keyboard shortcut or key to get back
out, and menu is gone of course. What is interesting is that re-opening
the file gives you the menus back, but "Screen Mode" remains in "Full
Screen Mode" (checkmark) even though it is not. 



With respect to "Recent Items" on the splash screen and "File>History" I
find expected behavior both before and after installing the patch. Seems
to work OK for me. 

Oran Petersen 



------

Message: 2
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 20:05:45 -0500
From: "Mike Wickham" 
Subject: Re: Frame 9 UI Scren Mode and Tab Icon Issues
To: "Oran Petersen" ,

Message-ID: <065d5b78791a4ce08d58120a4fd9a...@plecopress>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8";
reply-type=original

> 2. If I use the "Screen Mode" icon to select "Full Screen Mode" the 
>

Frame 9 UI Scren Mode and Tab Icon Issues

2009-03-24 Thread Megha Chaitanya

Hi Oran,

Regarding your points, 

1. I cannot get the Paragraph Formatting tool bar Tab icons to work. On earlier 
versions I could drag them onto the ruler to add new tabs. While I can move 
existing tabs on the ruler, I cannot seem to add new with the icons. The tab 
icons seem inoperative, as I cannot make to do anything through dragging, 
double-click, etc. I do see the "New Tab Stop" text in the paragraph designer 
flicker when I click an icon, but nothing else happens . 


 To add a tab stop, click a tab stop symbol from Paragraph Format 
toolbar and click the desired position below the top ruler. Refer to FrameMaker 
9 user guide , page 43.


2. If I use the "Screen Mode" icon to select? "Full Screen Mode" the menus 
correctly disappear. So far the only way I have found to get back out of that 
mode is to close and reopen the file using keyboard shortcuts. (Ctrl-W) I 
cannot find a keyboard shortcut or key to get back out, and menu is gone of 
course. What is interesting is that re-opening the file gives you the menus 
back, but "Screen Mode" remains in "Full Screen Mode" (checkmark) even though 
it is not. 

 To change the screen mode :
-> Right click on the grey area outside document window, then choose Toggle 
Screen Mode from the context menu.
->You can use the following keyboard shortcuts :
Esc S M s for standard screen mode.  
Esc S M u for full screen with user interface.
Esc SM f for full screen.
Esc SM t to toggle screen mode.


Regards,
Megha 

--

Message: 1
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 19:50:07 +0000 (UTC)
From: Oran Petersen 
Subject: Frame 9 UI Scren Mode and Tab Icon Issues
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Message-ID:
<1081429083.7173841237665007668.JavaMail.root at 
sz0127a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8




I am using TCS2 with Frame 9 with the patch on XP SP3. 

For me the new user interface seems a little confusing and inconsistent in how 
it works, but I am figuring out most of it by experimentation and trial & 
error. The Help file is mostly worthless. Seems they forgot to update it for 
the new interface and icons in many cases. 



Two UI items however, escape me. 



1. I cannot get the Paragraph Formatting tool bar Tab icons to work. On earlier 
versions I could drag them onto the ruler to add new tabs. While I can move 
existing tabs on the ruler, I cannot seem to add new with the icons. The tab 
icons seem inoperative, as I cannot make to do anything through dragging, 
double-click, etc. I do see the "New Tab Stop" text in the paragraph designer 
flicker when I click an icon, but nothing else happens . 



2. If I use the "Screen Mode" icon to select? "Full Screen Mode" the menus 
correctly disappear. So far the only way I have found to get back out of that 
mode is to close and reopen the file using keyboard shortcuts. (Ctrl-W) I 
cannot find a keyboard shortcut or key to get back out, and menu is gone of 
course. What is interesting is that re-opening the file gives you the menus 
back, but "Screen Mode" remains in "Full Screen Mode" (checkmark) even though 
it is not. 



With respect to "Recent Items" on the splash screen and "File>History" I find 
expected behavior both before and after installing the patch. Seems to work OK 
for me. 

Oran Petersen 



----------

Message: 2
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 20:05:45 -0500
From: "Mike Wickham" 
Subject: Re: Frame 9 UI Scren Mode and Tab Icon Issues
To: "Oran Petersen" ,

Message-ID: <065D5B78791A4CE08D58120A4FD9A21B at plecopress>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8";
reply-type=original

> 2. If I use the "Screen Mode" icon to select "Full Screen Mode" the menus 
> correctly disappear. So far the only way I have found to get back out of 
> that mode is to close and reopen the file using keyboard shortcuts. 
> (Ctrl-W) I cannot find a keyboard shortcut or key to get back out, and 
> menu is gone of course. What is interesting is that re-opening the file 
> gives you the menus back, but "Screen Mode" remains in "Full Screen Mode" 
> (checkmark) even though it is not.

Right-click, then choose Toggle Screen Mode from the context menu.

wincmds.cfg lists these shortcuts:
Esc S M s for standard screen mode.
Esc S M u for full screen with user interface.
Esc SM f for full screen.
Esc SM t to toggle screen mode.
However, none of these shortucts works for me-- only the right-click and 
Toggle Screen Mode.

Mike Wickham




--

Message: 3
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 20:13:38 -0500
From: "Mike Wickham" 
Subject: Re: Frame 9 UI Scren Mode and Tab Icon Issues
To: "

Frame 9 UI Scren Mode and Tab Icon Issues

2009-03-24 Thread Pinkham, Jim
Hi, Megha,

FWIW and to add what may be a slightly new wrinkle to #2: I'm using FM 9
in TCS 2, with the latest patch, and XP SP 2, and I find that when I
toggle in and out of the UI that I do not come back to the spot in the
chapter where I was working. Instead, I land at the end of the chapter
and have to find my way back. Any suggestions?

Jim


-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Megha
Chaitanya
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 8:11 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Frame 9 UI Scren Mode and Tab Icon Issues


Hi Oran,

Regarding your points, 

1. I cannot get the Paragraph Formatting tool bar Tab icons to work. On
earlier versions I could drag them onto the ruler to add new tabs. While
I can move existing tabs on the ruler, I cannot seem to add new with the
icons. The tab icons seem inoperative, as I cannot make to do anything
through dragging, double-click, etc. I do see the "New Tab Stop" text in
the paragraph designer flicker when I click an icon, but nothing else
happens . 


 To add a tab stop, click a tab stop symbol from Paragraph Format
toolbar and click the desired position below the top ruler. Refer to
FrameMaker 9 user guide , page 43.


2. If I use the "Screen Mode" icon to select? "Full Screen Mode" the
menus correctly disappear. So far the only way I have found to get back
out of that mode is to close and reopen the file using keyboard
shortcuts. (Ctrl-W) I cannot find a keyboard shortcut or key to get back
out, and menu is gone of course. What is interesting is that re-opening
the file gives you the menus back, but "Screen Mode" remains in "Full
Screen Mode" (checkmark) even though it is not. 

 To change the screen mode :
-> Right click on the grey area outside document window, then choose
Toggle Screen Mode from the context menu.
->You can use the following keyboard shortcuts :
Esc S M s for standard screen mode.  
Esc S M u for full screen with user interface.
Esc SM f for full screen.
Esc SM t to toggle screen mode.


Regards,
Megha 

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Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 19:50:07 +0000 (UTC)
From: Oran Petersen 
Subject: Frame 9 UI Scren Mode and Tab Icon Issues
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I am using TCS2 with Frame 9 with the patch on XP SP3. 

For me the new user interface seems a little confusing and inconsistent
in how it works, but I am figuring out most of it by experimentation and
trial & error. The Help file is mostly worthless. Seems they forgot to
update it for the new interface and icons in many cases. 



Two UI items however, escape me. 



1. I cannot get the Paragraph Formatting tool bar Tab icons to work. On
earlier versions I could drag them onto the ruler to add new tabs. While
I can move existing tabs on the ruler, I cannot seem to add new with the
icons. The tab icons seem inoperative, as I cannot make to do anything
through dragging, double-click, etc. I do see the "New Tab Stop" text in
the paragraph designer flicker when I click an icon, but nothing else
happens . 



2. If I use the "Screen Mode" icon to select? "Full Screen Mode" the
menus correctly disappear. So far the only way I have found to get back
out of that mode is to close and reopen the file using keyboard
shortcuts. (Ctrl-W) I cannot find a keyboard shortcut or key to get back
out, and menu is gone of course. What is interesting is that re-opening
the file gives you the menus back, but "Screen Mode" remains in "Full
Screen Mode" (checkmark) even though it is not. 



With respect to "Recent Items" on the splash screen and "File>History" I
find expected behavior both before and after installing the patch. Seems
to work OK for me. 

Oran Petersen 



------

Message: 2
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 20:05:45 -0500
From: "Mike Wickham" 
Subject: Re: Frame 9 UI Scren Mode and Tab Icon Issues
To: "Oran Petersen" ,

Message-ID: <065D5B78791A4CE08D58120A4FD9A21B at plecopress>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8";
reply-type=original

> 2. If I use the "Screen Mode" icon to select "Full Screen Mode" the 
> menus correctly disappear. So far the only way I have found to get 
> back out of that mode is to close and reopen the file using keyboard
shortcuts.
> (Ctrl-W) I cannot find a keyboard shortcut or key to get back out, and

> menu is gone of course. What is interesting is that re-opening the 
> file gives you the menus back, but "Screen Mode" remains in "Full
Screen Mod

RE: Frame 9 UI Scren Mode and Tab Icon Issues

2009-03-24 Thread Pinkham, Jim
Hi, Megha,

FWIW and to add what may be a slightly new wrinkle to #2: I'm using FM 9
in TCS 2, with the latest patch, and XP SP 2, and I find that when I
toggle in and out of the UI that I do not come back to the spot in the
chapter where I was working. Instead, I land at the end of the chapter
and have to find my way back. Any suggestions?

Jim


-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Megha
Chaitanya
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 8:11 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Frame 9 UI Scren Mode and Tab Icon Issues


Hi Oran,

Regarding your points, 

1. I cannot get the Paragraph Formatting tool bar Tab icons to work. On
earlier versions I could drag them onto the ruler to add new tabs. While
I can move existing tabs on the ruler, I cannot seem to add new with the
icons. The tab icons seem inoperative, as I cannot make to do anything
through dragging, double-click, etc. I do see the "New Tab Stop" text in
the paragraph designer flicker when I click an icon, but nothing else
happens . 


 To add a tab stop, click a tab stop symbol from Paragraph Format
toolbar and click the desired position below the top ruler. Refer to
FrameMaker 9 user guide , page 43.


2. If I use the "Screen Mode" icon to select? "Full Screen Mode" the
menus correctly disappear. So far the only way I have found to get back
out of that mode is to close and reopen the file using keyboard
shortcuts. (Ctrl-W) I cannot find a keyboard shortcut or key to get back
out, and menu is gone of course. What is interesting is that re-opening
the file gives you the menus back, but "Screen Mode" remains in "Full
Screen Mode" (checkmark) even though it is not. 

 To change the screen mode :
-> Right click on the grey area outside document window, then choose
Toggle Screen Mode from the context menu.
->You can use the following keyboard shortcuts :
Esc S M s for standard screen mode.  
Esc S M u for full screen with user interface.
Esc SM f for full screen.
Esc SM t to toggle screen mode.


Regards,
Megha 

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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 19:50:07 +0000 (UTC)
From: Oran Petersen 
Subject: Frame 9 UI Scren Mode and Tab Icon Issues
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
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<1081429083.7173841237665007668.javamail.r...@sz0127a.emeryville.ca.mail
.comcast.net>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8




I am using TCS2 with Frame 9 with the patch on XP SP3. 

For me the new user interface seems a little confusing and inconsistent
in how it works, but I am figuring out most of it by experimentation and
trial & error. The Help file is mostly worthless. Seems they forgot to
update it for the new interface and icons in many cases. 



Two UI items however, escape me. 



1. I cannot get the Paragraph Formatting tool bar Tab icons to work. On
earlier versions I could drag them onto the ruler to add new tabs. While
I can move existing tabs on the ruler, I cannot seem to add new with the
icons. The tab icons seem inoperative, as I cannot make to do anything
through dragging, double-click, etc. I do see the "New Tab Stop" text in
the paragraph designer flicker when I click an icon, but nothing else
happens . 



2. If I use the "Screen Mode" icon to select? "Full Screen Mode" the
menus correctly disappear. So far the only way I have found to get back
out of that mode is to close and reopen the file using keyboard
shortcuts. (Ctrl-W) I cannot find a keyboard shortcut or key to get back
out, and menu is gone of course. What is interesting is that re-opening
the file gives you the menus back, but "Screen Mode" remains in "Full
Screen Mode" (checkmark) even though it is not. 



With respect to "Recent Items" on the splash screen and "File>History" I
find expected behavior both before and after installing the patch. Seems
to work OK for me. 

Oran Petersen 



------

Message: 2
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 20:05:45 -0500
From: "Mike Wickham" 
Subject: Re: Frame 9 UI Scren Mode and Tab Icon Issues
To: "Oran Petersen" ,

Message-ID: <065d5b78791a4ce08d58120a4fd9a...@plecopress>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8";
reply-type=original

> 2. If I use the "Screen Mode" icon to select "Full Screen Mode" the 
> menus correctly disappear. So far the only way I have found to get 
> back out of that mode is to close and reopen the file using keyboard
shortcuts.
> (Ctrl-W) I cannot find a keyboard shortcut or key to get back out, and

> menu is gone of course. What is interesting is that re-opening the 
> file gives you the menus back, but "Screen Mode" remains in "Full
Screen Mod

RE: Frame 9 UI Scren Mode and Tab Icon Issues

2009-03-24 Thread Megha Chaitanya

Hi Oran,

Regarding your points, 

1. I cannot get the Paragraph Formatting tool bar Tab icons to work. On earlier 
versions I could drag them onto the ruler to add new tabs. While I can move 
existing tabs on the ruler, I cannot seem to add new with the icons. The tab 
icons seem inoperative, as I cannot make to do anything through dragging, 
double-click, etc. I do see the "New Tab Stop" text in the paragraph designer 
flicker when I click an icon, but nothing else happens . 


 To add a tab stop, click a tab stop symbol from Paragraph Format 
toolbar and click the desired position below the top ruler. Refer to FrameMaker 
9 user guide , page 43.


2. If I use the "Screen Mode" icon to select? "Full Screen Mode" the menus 
correctly disappear. So far the only way I have found to get back out of that 
mode is to close and reopen the file using keyboard shortcuts. (Ctrl-W) I 
cannot find a keyboard shortcut or key to get back out, and menu is gone of 
course. What is interesting is that re-opening the file gives you the menus 
back, but "Screen Mode" remains in "Full Screen Mode" (checkmark) even though 
it is not. 

 To change the screen mode :
-> Right click on the grey area outside document window, then choose Toggle 
Screen Mode from the context menu.
->You can use the following keyboard shortcuts :
Esc S M s for standard screen mode.  
Esc S M u for full screen with user interface.
Esc SM f for full screen.
Esc SM t to toggle screen mode.


Regards,
Megha 

--

Message: 1
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 19:50:07 +0000 (UTC)
From: Oran Petersen 
Subject: Frame 9 UI Scren Mode and Tab Icon Issues
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Message-ID:

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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8




I am using TCS2 with Frame 9 with the patch on XP SP3. 

For me the new user interface seems a little confusing and inconsistent in how 
it works, but I am figuring out most of it by experimentation and trial & 
error. The Help file is mostly worthless. Seems they forgot to update it for 
the new interface and icons in many cases. 



Two UI items however, escape me. 



1. I cannot get the Paragraph Formatting tool bar Tab icons to work. On earlier 
versions I could drag them onto the ruler to add new tabs. While I can move 
existing tabs on the ruler, I cannot seem to add new with the icons. The tab 
icons seem inoperative, as I cannot make to do anything through dragging, 
double-click, etc. I do see the "New Tab Stop" text in the paragraph designer 
flicker when I click an icon, but nothing else happens . 



2. If I use the "Screen Mode" icon to select? "Full Screen Mode" the menus 
correctly disappear. So far the only way I have found to get back out of that 
mode is to close and reopen the file using keyboard shortcuts. (Ctrl-W) I 
cannot find a keyboard shortcut or key to get back out, and menu is gone of 
course. What is interesting is that re-opening the file gives you the menus 
back, but "Screen Mode" remains in "Full Screen Mode" (checkmark) even though 
it is not. 



With respect to "Recent Items" on the splash screen and "File>History" I find 
expected behavior both before and after installing the patch. Seems to work OK 
for me. 

Oran Petersen 



----------

Message: 2
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 20:05:45 -0500
From: "Mike Wickham" 
Subject: Re: Frame 9 UI Scren Mode and Tab Icon Issues
To: "Oran Petersen" ,

Message-ID: <065d5b78791a4ce08d58120a4fd9a...@plecopress>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8";
reply-type=original

> 2. If I use the "Screen Mode" icon to select "Full Screen Mode" the menus 
> correctly disappear. So far the only way I have found to get back out of 
> that mode is to close and reopen the file using keyboard shortcuts. 
> (Ctrl-W) I cannot find a keyboard shortcut or key to get back out, and 
> menu is gone of course. What is interesting is that re-opening the file 
> gives you the menus back, but "Screen Mode" remains in "Full Screen Mode" 
> (checkmark) even though it is not.

Right-click, then choose Toggle Screen Mode from the context menu.

wincmds.cfg lists these shortcuts:
Esc S M s for standard screen mode.
Esc S M u for full screen with user interface.
Esc SM f for full screen.
Esc SM t to toggle screen mode.
However, none of these shortucts works for me-- only the right-click and 
Toggle Screen Mode.

Mike Wickham




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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 20:13:38 -0500
From: "Mike Wickham" 
Subject: Re: Frame 9 UI Scren Mode and Tab Icon Issues
To: "Ora

Frame 9 UI Scren Mode and Tab Icon Issues

2009-03-21 Thread Mike Wickham
> For me the new user interface seems a little confusing and inconsistent in 
> how it works, but I am
> figuring out most of it by experimentation and trial & error. The Help 
> file is mostly worthless.
> Seems they forgot to update it for the new interface and icons in many 
> cases.


You may want to check out the video at this link: 
http://my.adobe.acrobat.com/p17912987/. It explains a lot about the user 
interface.

Mike Wickham





Frame 9 UI Scren Mode and Tab Icon Issues

2009-03-21 Thread Mike Wickham
> 2. If I use the "Screen Mode" icon to select "Full Screen Mode" the menus 
> correctly disappear. So far the only way I have found to get back out of 
> that mode is to close and reopen the file using keyboard shortcuts. 
> (Ctrl-W) I cannot find a keyboard shortcut or key to get back out, and 
> menu is gone of course. What is interesting is that re-opening the file 
> gives you the menus back, but "Screen Mode" remains in "Full Screen Mode" 
> (checkmark) even though it is not.

Right-click, then choose Toggle Screen Mode from the context menu.

wincmds.cfg lists these shortcuts:
Esc S M s for standard screen mode.
Esc S M u for full screen with user interface.
Esc SM f for full screen.
Esc SM t to toggle screen mode.
However, none of these shortucts works for me-- only the right-click and 
Toggle Screen Mode.

Mike Wickham




Frame 9 UI Scren Mode and Tab Icon Issues

2009-03-21 Thread Oran Petersen



I am using TCS2 with Frame 9 with the patch on XP SP3. 

For me the new user interface seems a little confusing and inconsistent in how 
it works, but I am figuring out most of it by experimentation and trial & 
error. The Help file is mostly worthless. Seems they forgot to update it for 
the new interface and icons in many cases. 



Two UI items however, escape me. 



1. I cannot get the Paragraph Formatting tool bar Tab icons to work. On earlier 
versions I could drag them onto the ruler to add new tabs. While I can move 
existing tabs on the ruler, I cannot seem to add new with the icons. The tab 
icons seem inoperative, as I cannot make to do anything through dragging, 
double-click, etc. I do see the "New Tab Stop" text in the paragraph designer 
flicker when I click an icon, but nothing else happens . 



2. If I use the "Screen Mode" icon to select? "Full Screen Mode" the menus 
correctly disappear. So far the only way I have found to get back out of that 
mode is to close and reopen the file using keyboard shortcuts. (Ctrl-W) I 
cannot find a keyboard shortcut or key to get back out, and menu is gone of 
course. What is interesting is that re-opening the file gives you the menus 
back, but "Screen Mode" remains in "Full Screen Mode" (checkmark) even though 
it is not. 



With respect to "Recent Items" on the splash screen and "File>History" I find 
expected behavior both before and after installing the patch. Seems to work OK 
for me. 

Oran Petersen 



Re: Frame 9 UI Scren Mode and Tab Icon Issues

2009-03-21 Thread Mike Wickham
> For me the new user interface seems a little confusing and inconsistent in 
> how it works, but I am
> figuring out most of it by experimentation and trial & error. The Help 
> file is mostly worthless.
> Seems they forgot to update it for the new interface and icons in many 
> cases.


You may want to check out the video at this link: 
http://my.adobe.acrobat.com/p17912987/. It explains a lot about the user 
interface.

Mike Wickham



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Re: Frame 9 UI Scren Mode and Tab Icon Issues

2009-03-21 Thread Mike Wickham
> 2. If I use the "Screen Mode" icon to select "Full Screen Mode" the menus 
> correctly disappear. So far the only way I have found to get back out of 
> that mode is to close and reopen the file using keyboard shortcuts. 
> (Ctrl-W) I cannot find a keyboard shortcut or key to get back out, and 
> menu is gone of course. What is interesting is that re-opening the file 
> gives you the menus back, but "Screen Mode" remains in "Full Screen Mode" 
> (checkmark) even though it is not.

Right-click, then choose Toggle Screen Mode from the context menu.

wincmds.cfg lists these shortcuts:
Esc S M s for standard screen mode.
Esc S M u for full screen with user interface.
Esc SM f for full screen.
Esc SM t to toggle screen mode.
However, none of these shortucts works for me-- only the right-click and 
Toggle Screen Mode.

Mike Wickham


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Frame 9 UI Scren Mode and Tab Icon Issues

2009-03-21 Thread Oran Petersen



I am using TCS2 with Frame 9 with the patch on XP SP3. 

For me the new user interface seems a little confusing and inconsistent in how 
it works, but I am figuring out most of it by experimentation and trial & 
error. The Help file is mostly worthless. Seems they forgot to update it for 
the new interface and icons in many cases. 



Two UI items however, escape me. 



1. I cannot get the Paragraph Formatting tool bar Tab icons to work. On earlier 
versions I could drag them onto the ruler to add new tabs. While I can move 
existing tabs on the ruler, I cannot seem to add new with the icons. The tab 
icons seem inoperative, as I cannot make to do anything through dragging, 
double-click, etc. I do see the "New Tab Stop" text in the paragraph designer 
flicker when I click an icon, but nothing else happens . 



2. If I use the "Screen Mode" icon to select  "Full Screen Mode" the menus 
correctly disappear. So far the only way I have found to get back out of that 
mode is to close and reopen the file using keyboard shortcuts. (Ctrl-W) I 
cannot find a keyboard shortcut or key to get back out, and menu is gone of 
course. What is interesting is that re-opening the file gives you the menus 
back, but "Screen Mode" remains in "Full Screen Mode" (checkmark) even though 
it is not. 



With respect to "Recent Items" on the splash screen and "File>History" I find 
expected behavior both before and after installing the patch. Seems to work OK 
for me. 

Oran Petersen 

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