RE: Help with converting a Visio file into a PDF

2006-07-01 Thread Roopa Belur
Thank you for your responses. Feels great to be a part of this knowledgeable 
community.
   
  ABC Amber Visio worked well, so I am content and happy :-)

Thanks again,
Roopa Malavally Belur

Dov Isaacs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Yes, the advice (I gave it) still holds.
No reason why it shouldn't!

- Dov 

 -Original Message-
 From: Jon Harvey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 9:32 AM
 To: Dov Isaacs; Steve Rickaby; framers@FrameUsers.com
 Subject: RE: Help with converting a Visio file into a PDF
 
 Here is the procedure I pulled off this list years ago. It's been
 sitting either in, on, under, or behind my desk for what seems like
 forever. Does it still hold true with the current software out there?
 
 1. Save the file in Visio as a PDF.
 2. Open the PDF in Acrobat.
 3. Save the Acrobat file as and EPS, with TIFF preview/fonts embedded.
 4. Import the EPS into FrameMaker.
 Note: The image may look fuzzy in FM when imported. Remember, this is
 the TIFF preview, not the printed page.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 sers.com]
 On Behalf Of Dov Isaacs
 Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 2:21 PM
 To: Steve Rickaby; framers@FrameUsers.com
 Subject: RE: Help with converting a Visio file into a PDF
 
 FrameMaker does NOT have the ability to import Visio native
 files. It does have the ability to use OLE (object linking 
 and embedding) links to such a Viso document file, but that
 requires that Visio be installed on the system that runs
 FrameMaker. Also, OLE is notoriously unreliable.
 
 - Dov
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  On Behalf Of Steve Rickaby
  Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 7:54 AM
  To: framers@FrameUsers.com
  Subject: Re: Help with converting a Visio file into a PDF
  
  At 07:40 -0700 28/6/06, Roopa Belur wrote:
  
   My apologies for not being clear. My company uses 
  Microsoft Word. They are considering moving to Frame in the 
  next few months.
   
  I need help converting a Visio file into PDF without 
  Distiller or any Adobe product.
  
  Er... just a quick query: you're not trying to go from Visio 
  to PDF so that you can import the PDF into FrameMaker, are 
  you? Because if so, I don't think you need to bother: PC 
  FrameMaker can import Visio native files directly (or so I've 
  been told - I don't use Visio).
  -- 
  Steve
 
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Help with converting a Visio file into a PDF

2006-07-01 Thread Roopa Belur
Thank you for your responses. Feels great to be a part of this knowledgeable 
community.

  ABC Amber Visio worked well, so I am content and happy :-)

Thanks again,
Roopa Malavally Belur

Dov Isaacs  wrote:
  Yes, the advice (I gave it) still holds.
No reason why it shouldn't!

- Dov 

> -Original Message-
> From: Jon Harvey [mailto:JHarvey at cambridgesoft.com] 
> Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 9:32 AM
> To: Dov Isaacs; Steve Rickaby; framers at FrameUsers.com
> Subject: RE: Help with converting a Visio file into a PDF
> 
> Here is the procedure I pulled off this list years ago. It's been
> sitting either in, on, under, or behind my desk for what seems like
> forever. Does it still hold true with the current software out there?
> 
> "1. Save the file in Visio as a PDF.
> 2. Open the PDF in Acrobat.
> 3. Save the Acrobat file as and EPS, with TIFF preview/fonts embedded.
> 4. Import the EPS into FrameMaker.
> Note: The image may look fuzzy in FM when imported. Remember, this is
> the TIFF preview, not the printed page."
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces+jharvey=cambridgesoft.com at lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-bounces+jharvey=cambridgesoft.com at lists.frameu
> sers.com]
> On Behalf Of Dov Isaacs
> Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 2:21 PM
> To: Steve Rickaby; framers at FrameUsers.com
> Subject: RE: Help with converting a Visio file into a PDF
> 
> FrameMaker does NOT have the ability to import "Visio native
> files." It does have the ability to use OLE (object linking 
> and embedding) links to such a Viso document file, but that
> requires that Visio be installed on the system that runs
> FrameMaker. Also, OLE is notoriously unreliable.
> 
> - Dov
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: framers-bounces+isaacs=adobe.com at lists.frameusers.com 
> > [mailto:framers-bounces+isaacs=adobe.com at lists.frameusers.com]
> > On Behalf Of Steve Rickaby
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 7:54 AM
> > To: framers at FrameUsers.com
> > Subject: Re: Help with converting a Visio file into a PDF
> > 
> > At 07:40 -0700 28/6/06, Roopa Belur wrote:
> > 
> > > My apologies for not being clear. My company uses 
> > Microsoft Word. They are considering moving to Frame in the 
> > next few months.
> > > 
> > >I need help converting a Visio file into PDF without 
> > Distiller or any Adobe product.
> > 
> > Er... just a quick query: you're not trying to go from Visio 
> > to PDF so that you can import the PDF into FrameMaker, are 
> > you? Because if so, I don't think you need to bother: PC 
> > FrameMaker can import Visio native files directly (or so I've 
> > been told - I don't use Visio).
> > -- 
> > Steve
> 
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RE: Help with converting a Visio file into a PDF

2006-06-30 Thread Jon Harvey
Here is the procedure I pulled off this list years ago. It's been
sitting either in, on, under, or behind my desk for what seems like
forever. Does it still hold true with the current software out there?

1. Save the file in Visio as a PDF.
2. Open the PDF in Acrobat.
3. Save the Acrobat file as and EPS, with TIFF preview/fonts embedded.
4. Import the EPS into FrameMaker.
Note: The image may look fuzzy in FM when imported. Remember, this is
the TIFF preview, not the printed page.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Dov Isaacs
Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 2:21 PM
To: Steve Rickaby; framers@FrameUsers.com
Subject: RE: Help with converting a Visio file into a PDF

FrameMaker does NOT have the ability to import Visio native
files. It does have the ability to use OLE (object linking 
and embedding) links to such a Viso document file, but that
requires that Visio be installed on the system that runs
FrameMaker. Also, OLE is notoriously unreliable.

- Dov
 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  On Behalf Of Steve Rickaby
 Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 7:54 AM
 To: framers@FrameUsers.com
 Subject: Re: Help with converting a Visio file into a PDF
 
 At 07:40 -0700 28/6/06, Roopa Belur wrote:
 
   My apologies for not being clear. My company uses 
 Microsoft Word. They are considering moving to Frame in the 
 next few months.
  
 I need help converting a Visio file into PDF without 
 Distiller or any Adobe product.
 
 Er... just a quick query: you're not trying to go from Visio 
 to PDF so that you can import the PDF into FrameMaker, are 
 you? Because if so, I don't think you need to bother: PC 
 FrameMaker can import Visio native files directly (or so I've 
 been told - I don't use Visio).
 -- 
 Steve
 
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RE: Help with converting a Visio file into a PDF

2006-06-30 Thread Dov Isaacs
Yes, the advice (I gave it) still holds.
No reason why it shouldn't!

- Dov 

 -Original Message-
 From: Jon Harvey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 9:32 AM
 To: Dov Isaacs; Steve Rickaby; framers@FrameUsers.com
 Subject: RE: Help with converting a Visio file into a PDF
 
 Here is the procedure I pulled off this list years ago. It's been
 sitting either in, on, under, or behind my desk for what seems like
 forever. Does it still hold true with the current software out there?
 
 1. Save the file in Visio as a PDF.
 2. Open the PDF in Acrobat.
 3. Save the Acrobat file as and EPS, with TIFF preview/fonts embedded.
 4. Import the EPS into FrameMaker.
 Note: The image may look fuzzy in FM when imported. Remember, this is
 the TIFF preview, not the printed page.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 sers.com]
 On Behalf Of Dov Isaacs
 Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 2:21 PM
 To: Steve Rickaby; framers@FrameUsers.com
 Subject: RE: Help with converting a Visio file into a PDF
 
 FrameMaker does NOT have the ability to import Visio native
 files. It does have the ability to use OLE (object linking 
 and embedding) links to such a Viso document file, but that
 requires that Visio be installed on the system that runs
 FrameMaker. Also, OLE is notoriously unreliable.
 
   - Dov
  
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   On Behalf Of Steve Rickaby
  Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 7:54 AM
  To: framers@FrameUsers.com
  Subject: Re: Help with converting a Visio file into a PDF
  
  At 07:40 -0700 28/6/06, Roopa Belur wrote:
  
My apologies for not being clear. My company uses 
  Microsoft Word. They are considering moving to Frame in the 
  next few months.
   
  I need help converting a Visio file into PDF without 
  Distiller or any Adobe product.
  
  Er... just a quick query: you're not trying to go from Visio 
  to PDF so that you can import the PDF into FrameMaker, are 
  you? Because if so, I don't think you need to bother: PC 
  FrameMaker can import Visio native files directly (or so I've 
  been told - I don't use Visio).
  -- 
  Steve
 
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Help with converting a Visio file into a PDF

2006-06-30 Thread Jon Harvey
Here is the procedure I pulled off this list years ago. It's been
sitting either in, on, under, or behind my desk for what seems like
forever. Does it still hold true with the current software out there?

"1. Save the file in Visio as a PDF.
2. Open the PDF in Acrobat.
3. Save the Acrobat file as and EPS, with TIFF preview/fonts embedded.
4. Import the EPS into FrameMaker.
Note: The image may look fuzzy in FM when imported. Remember, this is
the TIFF preview, not the printed page."

-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+jharvey=cambridgesoft@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+jharvey=cambridgesoft.com at lists.frameusers.com]
On Behalf Of Dov Isaacs
Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 2:21 PM
To: Steve Rickaby; framers at FrameUsers.com
Subject: RE: Help with converting a Visio file into a PDF

FrameMaker does NOT have the ability to import "Visio native
files." It does have the ability to use OLE (object linking 
and embedding) links to such a Viso document file, but that
requires that Visio be installed on the system that runs
FrameMaker. Also, OLE is notoriously unreliable.

- Dov


> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces+isaacs=adobe.com at lists.frameusers.com 
> [mailto:framers-bounces+isaacs=adobe.com at lists.frameusers.com]
>  On Behalf Of Steve Rickaby
> Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 7:54 AM
> To: framers at FrameUsers.com
> Subject: Re: Help with converting a Visio file into a PDF
> 
> At 07:40 -0700 28/6/06, Roopa Belur wrote:
> 
> >  My apologies for not being clear. My company uses 
> Microsoft Word. They are considering moving to Frame in the 
> next few months.
> > 
> >I need help converting a Visio file into PDF without 
> Distiller or any Adobe product.
> 
> Er... just a quick query: you're not trying to go from Visio 
> to PDF so that you can import the PDF into FrameMaker, are 
> you? Because if so, I don't think you need to bother: PC 
> FrameMaker can import Visio native files directly (or so I've 
> been told - I don't use Visio).
> -- 
> Steve
> 
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Help with converting a Visio file into a PDF

2006-06-30 Thread Ridder, Fred
Well, Visio 2003 does not provide PDF (or EPS) as options in the
Save As dialog, so your procedure is clearly out of date.  It seems
that when Microsoft took over Visio they decided to finally remove 
the chronically broken EPS export filter that Visio users had 
suffered with for so long, and Save As PDF apparently went the
same route (if it ever existed in Visio to begin with) since neither
file format is a Microsoft invention. 

You can certainly *print* Visio to PDF if you have Acrobat, but 
at that point you're probably better off importing the PDF into 
FrameMaker rather than converting it to EPS because you'll 
get a better on-screen display. Converting PDF to EPS before 
importing used to be a requirement in older versions of FrameMaker 
(5.5.6, IIRC) which didn't import PDF correctly. But for current 
versions, importing PDF is no problem and that approach has 
the potential advantage of being able to contain multiple pages 
in one PDF as opposed to one file per image for EPS. 

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ



-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Jon Harvey
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 12:32 PM
To: Dov Isaacs; Steve Rickaby; framers at FrameUsers.com
Subject: RE: Help with converting a Visio file into a PDF

Here is the procedure I pulled off this list years ago. It's been
sitting either in, on, under, or behind my desk for what seems like
forever. Does it still hold true with the current software out there?

"1. Save the file in Visio as a PDF.
2. Open the PDF in Acrobat.
3. Save the Acrobat file as and EPS, with TIFF preview/fonts embedded.
4. Import the EPS into FrameMaker.
Note: The image may look fuzzy in FM when imported. Remember, this is
the TIFF preview, not the printed page."

-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+jharvey=cambridgesoft@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+jharvey=cambridgesoft.com at lists.frameusers.com]
On Behalf Of Dov Isaacs
Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 2:21 PM
To: Steve Rickaby; framers at FrameUsers.com
Subject: RE: Help with converting a Visio file into a PDF

FrameMaker does NOT have the ability to import "Visio native
files." It does have the ability to use OLE (object linking 
and embedding) links to such a Viso document file, but that
requires that Visio be installed on the system that runs
FrameMaker. Also, OLE is notoriously unreliable.

- Dov



Help with converting a Visio file into a PDF

2006-06-30 Thread T.W. Smith
I thought having Adobe Acrobat was pretty much a necessity for technical
writers?

Still, Visio 2003 does, I think, save as SVG. Perhaps FrameMaker 7.1+ can
use that?

As for PDF or EPS, I think PDF is more processing and overhead for
FrameMaker; you might care if you use a ton of PDFs.

==
T.


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Help with converting a Visio file into a PDF

2006-06-30 Thread Dov Isaacs
Yes, the advice (I gave it) still holds.
No reason why it shouldn't!

- Dov 

> -Original Message-
> From: Jon Harvey [mailto:JHarvey at cambridgesoft.com] 
> Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 9:32 AM
> To: Dov Isaacs; Steve Rickaby; framers at FrameUsers.com
> Subject: RE: Help with converting a Visio file into a PDF
> 
> Here is the procedure I pulled off this list years ago. It's been
> sitting either in, on, under, or behind my desk for what seems like
> forever. Does it still hold true with the current software out there?
> 
> "1. Save the file in Visio as a PDF.
> 2. Open the PDF in Acrobat.
> 3. Save the Acrobat file as and EPS, with TIFF preview/fonts embedded.
> 4. Import the EPS into FrameMaker.
> Note: The image may look fuzzy in FM when imported. Remember, this is
> the TIFF preview, not the printed page."
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces+jharvey=cambridgesoft.com at lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-bounces+jharvey=cambridgesoft.com at lists.frameu
> sers.com]
> On Behalf Of Dov Isaacs
> Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 2:21 PM
> To: Steve Rickaby; framers at FrameUsers.com
> Subject: RE: Help with converting a Visio file into a PDF
> 
> FrameMaker does NOT have the ability to import "Visio native
> files." It does have the ability to use OLE (object linking 
> and embedding) links to such a Viso document file, but that
> requires that Visio be installed on the system that runs
> FrameMaker. Also, OLE is notoriously unreliable.
> 
>   - Dov
>  
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: framers-bounces+isaacs=adobe.com at lists.frameusers.com 
> > [mailto:framers-bounces+isaacs=adobe.com at lists.frameusers.com]
> >  On Behalf Of Steve Rickaby
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 7:54 AM
> > To: framers at FrameUsers.com
> > Subject: Re: Help with converting a Visio file into a PDF
> > 
> > At 07:40 -0700 28/6/06, Roopa Belur wrote:
> > 
> > >  My apologies for not being clear. My company uses 
> > Microsoft Word. They are considering moving to Frame in the 
> > next few months.
> > > 
> > >I need help converting a Visio file into PDF without 
> > Distiller or any Adobe product.
> > 
> > Er... just a quick query: you're not trying to go from Visio 
> > to PDF so that you can import the PDF into FrameMaker, are 
> > you? Because if so, I don't think you need to bother: PC 
> > FrameMaker can import Visio native files directly (or so I've 
> > been told - I don't use Visio).
> > -- 
> > Steve
> 



Help with converting a Visio file into a PDF

2006-06-28 Thread Roopa Belur
Greetings to all.
   
  I am trying to convert a Visio file into a PDF format. What is the best way 
to get a PDF of the Visio file? I am currently downloading  Adobe Universal 
PostScript Windows Driver Installer 1.0.6 - English. Is this the right tool?
  
Thanks in advance for your help,
Sincerely,
Roopa Belur


  
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Re: Help with converting a Visio file into a PDF

2006-06-28 Thread Shlomo Perets

Roopa,

You wrote:


I am trying to convert a Visio file into a PDF format. What is the
best way to get a PDF of the Visio file? I am currently downloading
Adobe Universal PostScript Windows Driver Installer 1.0.6 - English.
Is this the right tool?


If you have the Acrobat 7 and Microsoft Visio, using PDFMaker in Visio (vs. 
printing  to a ps file and distilling) is recommended if the PDFs are to be 
used on-screen.  When using the PDFMaker add-on in Visio, you will have the 
option of converting Visio layers to PDF layers, and also have 
object-specific metadata carried over to the PDF.



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Re: Help with converting a Visio file into a PDF

2006-06-28 Thread Art Campbell

It's unclear from your message if you already have the full version of
Adobe Acrobat installed; that's the tool you need to create a .PDF
from Visio. The limited version installed by Frame is just that --a
limited version that can only be used from within Frame.

The printer driver you mention can be used to create a PostScript file
which can then
be distilled with Acrobat, but it isn't a required tool -- using it
would take you down a tangent.

Art

On 6/28/06, Roopa Belur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Greetings to all.

  I am trying to convert a Visio file into a PDF format. What is the best way 
to get a PDF of the Visio file? I am currently downloading  Adobe Universal 
PostScript Windows Driver Installer 1.0.6 - English. Is this the right tool?

Thanks in advance for your help,
Sincerely,
Roopa Belur


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Re: Help with converting a Visio file into a PDF

2006-06-28 Thread Karen Mardahl

Hi Roopa

On 6/28/06, Roopa Belur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi All, thanks for your responses. I appreciate it.
  My apologies for not being clear. My company uses Microsoft Word. They are 
considering moving to Frame in the next few months.
I need help converting a Visio file into PDF without Distiller or any Adobe 
product.
  Has anybody used ABC Amber Visio Converter? 
http://www.processtext.com/abcvisio.html
  Or do you have any recommendations for Visio to PDF conversion?


Are you just trying to get your Visio file into Word? In that case, my
advice is to forget PDF.
Save your Visio file as .wmf.
In Word, import the .wmf file.
.wmf is a format that Word understands much better, so your end result
will be much better.
This eliminates the need for any converters.

Hope this helps.

regards, Karen Mardahl
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Re: Help with converting a Visio file into a PDF

2006-06-28 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 07:40 -0700 28/6/06, Roopa Belur wrote:

  My apologies for not being clear. My company uses Microsoft Word. They are 
 considering moving to Frame in the next few months.
 
I need help converting a Visio file into PDF without Distiller or any Adobe 
product.

Er... just a quick query: you're not trying to go from Visio to PDF so that you 
can import the PDF into FrameMaker, are you? Because if so, I don't think you 
need to bother: PC FrameMaker can import Visio native files directly (or so 
I've been told - I don't use Visio).
-- 
Steve
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Re: Help with converting a Visio file into a PDF

2006-06-28 Thread Roopa Belur
I have used Framemaker in my previous jobs, and I love it :-) My current 
company uses Microsoft Word. 
   
  I am trying to convert a .vsd (Visio file) into PDF without using Frame/Word. 
I came across http://www.processtext.com/abcvisio.html, and am wondering if you 
all have any input.
   
  Sincerely,
Roopa Belur

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On 6/28/06, Roopa Belur wrote:

 Hi All, thanks for your responses. I appreciate it.

 My apologies for not being clear. My company uses Microsoft Word. They are
 considering moving to Frame in the next few months.

 I need help converting a Visio file into PDF without Distiller or any Adobe
 product.

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Re: Help with converting a Visio file into a PDF

2006-06-28 Thread saurabhkudesia
Roopa, 

ABC Amber Visio convertor is a good tool and you can use it for converting 
visio file into PDF.

Infact, if your only requirement is to convert the visio file to pdf, any 
PDF convertor will work. Most PDF convertors are installed as printers and 
you can directly convert your visio file to PDF without using word/frame.

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I have used Framemaker in my previous jobs, and I love it :-) My current 
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  I am trying to convert a .vsd (Visio file) into PDF without using 
Frame/Word. I came across http://www.processtext.com/abcvisio.html, and am 
wondering if you all have any input.
 
  Sincerely,
Roopa Belur

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 Hi All, thanks for your responses. I appreciate it.

 My apologies for not being clear. My company uses Microsoft Word. They 
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 I need help converting a Visio file into PDF without Distiller or any 
Adobe
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RE: Help with converting a Visio file into a PDF

2006-06-28 Thread Combs, Richard
Steve Rickaby
 
 Er... just a quick query: you're not trying to go from Visio 
 to PDF so that you can import the PDF into FrameMaker, are 
 you? Because if so, I don't think you need to bother: PC 
 FrameMaker can import Visio native files directly (or so I've 
 been told - I don't use Visio).
 
Not as a file import -- unless a filter was added in 7.2 without making
it to the new features list. :-) 

You can import a Visio drawing as a linked _object_, using Windows' OLE2
capability. I've done it without problems when I just had one or two
Visio drawings in a book. But I'd be reluctant to rely on OLE for lots
and lots of graphics. There's a huge amount of complexity and overhead
for an OLE object (to make in-place editing possible). 

And of course, OLE is Windows-only, and anyone you share the FM files
with must also have Visio, so your FM files aren't very portable
anymore. 

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RE: Help with converting a Visio file into a PDF

2006-06-28 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 09:49 -0600 28/6/06, Combs, Richard wrote:

  Er... just a quick query: you're not trying to go from Visio
 to PDF so that you can import the PDF into FrameMaker, are
 you? Because if so, I don't think you need to bother: PC
 FrameMaker can import Visio native files directly (or so I've
 been told - I don't use Visio).
 
Not as a file import -- unless a filter was added in 7.2 without making
it to the new features list. :-)

You can import a Visio drawing as a linked _object_, using Windows' OLE2
capability. I've done it without problems when I just had one or two
Visio drawings in a book. But I'd be reluctant to rely on OLE for lots
and lots of graphics. There's a huge amount of complexity and overhead
for an OLE object (to make in-place editing possible).

Ah - sorry: that must be what I was remembering. From an April thread...

At 10:53 -0600 27/4/06, Linda G. Gallagher wrote:
I know that folks will likely tell you that it's not the recommended way,
but I have embedded Visio objects into a couple of FM books successfully. I
learned about it from another list member (John, are you out there?), and it
has been fine.

At 10:01 -0700 27/4/06, Hales-Crotchett, Nicole wrote:
For what it's worth, I haven't had any troubles either embedding Visio
objects and I've done it numerous times in several books.

At 10:03 -0700 27/4/06, Jim Light wrote:
I have Visio 2003 (SP2) and it allows me to export as tif, gif, png. You
can check to see if the quality is a problem, but you don't have to do
that at all, really. You can import the vsd file as an object into
FrameMaker.

Click File  Import  Object.

In the Insert Object dialog, Select Create from File.

Browse to the vsd file , check the Link check box (if you want it to
update dynamically and then Click OK.

I have Frame 7.2. When I right-click on the Visio object, the bottom of
the right-click menu has a choice called Linked Visio Object and the
two sub menu items are Edit and Open.

If I double-click the embedded Visio object it opens it in Visio.

And of course, OLE is Windows-only, and anyone you share the FM files
with must also have Visio, so your FM files aren't very portable
anymore.

Quite.

FWIW, I had have painful experience of the 'quality' (I use the term loosely) 
of exports from Visio in non-M$ formats (i.e. anything portable). My preferred 
method would now be to create a PDF from Visio and import that into FrameMaker. 
But then, I work on a Mac...
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RE: Help with converting a Visio file into a PDF

2006-06-28 Thread Combs, Richard
Steve Rickaby wrote: 
 
 FWIW, I had have painful experience of the 'quality' (I use 
 the term loosely) of exports from Visio in non-M$ formats 
 (i.e. anything portable). My preferred method would now be to 
 create a PDF from Visio and import that into FrameMaker. But 
 then, I work on a Mac...

Yeah, Visio's export filters -- especially EPS -- have sucked for a long
time. 

I use PDF for practically all my Visio drawings. For one thing, I create
multiple related drawings, such as call flow diagrams, in a single
multi-page Visio file. I can print that to a multi-page PDF with a
custom page size, and then import each page of the PDF (at 100%) into my
FM doc. Print a new PDF from Visio, and all the diagrams in FM are
updated. Sweet. :-) 

As an alternative, Visio's PNG export seems to be pretty decent (at
least in Visio 2003). 

Also, I've played a little with Visio's Save As Web Page command,
choosing VML as the graphics format, and that looks pretty slick. My
multi-page drawings ended up as a set of VML (vector markup language)
files with an HTML frameset wrapper that provided navigation, pan and
zoom, search, etc. 

There are lots of options for Save As Web Page -- for vector output, SVG
is another option. If you're on Windows (sorry, Steve g) and want to
put Visio drawings on line, it's worth looking into. 

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RE: Help with converting a Visio file into a PDF

2006-06-28 Thread Dov Isaacs
FrameMaker does NOT have the ability to import Visio native
files. It does have the ability to use OLE (object linking 
and embedding) links to such a Viso document file, but that
requires that Visio be installed on the system that runs
FrameMaker. Also, OLE is notoriously unreliable.

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 At 07:40 -0700 28/6/06, Roopa Belur wrote:
 
   My apologies for not being clear. My company uses 
 Microsoft Word. They are considering moving to Frame in the 
 next few months.
  
 I need help converting a Visio file into PDF without 
 Distiller or any Adobe product.
 
 Er... just a quick query: you're not trying to go from Visio 
 to PDF so that you can import the PDF into FrameMaker, are 
 you? Because if so, I don't think you need to bother: PC 
 FrameMaker can import Visio native files directly (or so I've 
 been told - I don't use Visio).
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Help with converting a Visio file into a PDF

2006-06-28 Thread Shlomo Perets
Roopa,

You wrote:

>I am trying to convert a Visio file into a PDF format. What is the
>best way to get a PDF of the Visio file? I am currently downloading
>Adobe Universal PostScript Windows Driver Installer 1.0.6 - English.
>Is this the right tool?

If you have the Acrobat 7 and Microsoft Visio, using PDFMaker in Visio (vs. 
printing  to a ps file and distilling) is recommended if the PDFs are to be 
used on-screen.  When using the PDFMaker add-on in Visio, you will have the 
option of converting Visio layers to PDF layers, and also have 
object-specific metadata carried over to the PDF.


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Help with converting a Visio file into a PDF

2006-06-28 Thread obair
I am not at work yet, but I think I do Print as PDF.

Then use the crop option to get rid of the white space.

It comes out looking great.

Paul

On 27 Meith 2006, at 10:42 pm, Roopa Belur wrote:

> Greetings to all.
>
>   I am trying to convert a Visio file into a PDF format. What is the  
> best way to get a PDF of the Visio file? I am currently downloading   
> Adobe Universal PostScript Windows Driver Installer 1.0.6 - English.  
> Is this the right tool?
>
> Thanks in advance for your help,
> Sincerely,
> Roopa Belur
>
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Help with converting a Visio file into a PDF

2006-06-28 Thread Art Campbell
It's unclear from your message if you already have the full version of
Adobe Acrobat installed; that's the tool you need to create a .PDF
from Visio. The limited version installed by Frame is just that --a
limited version that can only be used from within Frame.

The printer driver you mention can be used to create a PostScript file
which can then
be distilled with Acrobat, but it isn't a required tool -- using it
would take you down a tangent.

Art

On 6/28/06, Roopa Belur  wrote:
> Greetings to all.
>
>   I am trying to convert a Visio file into a PDF format. What is the best way 
> to get a PDF of the Visio file? I am currently downloading  Adobe Universal 
> PostScript Windows Driver Installer 1.0.6 - English. Is this the right tool?
>
> Thanks in advance for your help,
> Sincerely,
> Roopa Belur

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Help with converting a Visio file into a PDF

2006-06-28 Thread Roopa Belur
Hi All, thanks for your responses. I appreciate it.

  My apologies for not being clear. My company uses Microsoft Word. They are 
considering moving to Frame in the next few months.

I need help converting a Visio file into PDF without Distiller or any Adobe 
product. 

  Has anybody used ABC Amber Visio Converter? 
http://www.processtext.com/abcvisio.html

  Or do you have any recommendations for Visio to PDF conversion?

Thanks,
Roopa 

Art Campbell  wrote:
  It's unclear from your message if you already have the full version of
Adobe Acrobat installed; that's the tool you need to create a .PDF
from Visio. The limited version installed by Frame is just that --a
limited version that can only be used from within Frame.

The printer driver you mention can be used to create a PostScript file
which can then
be distilled with Acrobat, but it isn't a required tool -- using it
would take you down a tangent.

Art

On 6/28/06, Roopa Belur wrote:
> Greetings to all.
>
> I am trying to convert a Visio file into a PDF format. What is the best way 
> to get a PDF of the Visio file? I am currently downloading Adobe Universal 
> PostScript Windows Driver Installer 1.0.6 - English. Is this the right tool?
>
> Thanks in advance for your help,
> Sincerely,
> Roopa Belur

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Help with converting a Visio file into a PDF

2006-06-28 Thread Karen Mardahl
Hi Roopa

On 6/28/06, Roopa Belur  wrote:
> Hi All, thanks for your responses. I appreciate it.
>   My apologies for not being clear. My company uses Microsoft Word. They are 
> considering moving to Frame in the next few months.
> I need help converting a Visio file into PDF without Distiller or any Adobe 
> product.
>   Has anybody used ABC Amber Visio Converter? 
> http://www.processtext.com/abcvisio.html
>   Or do you have any recommendations for Visio to PDF conversion?

Are you just trying to get your Visio file into Word? In that case, my
advice is to forget PDF.
Save your Visio file as .wmf.
In Word, import the .wmf file.
.wmf is a format that Word understands much better, so your end result
will be much better.
This eliminates the need for any converters.

Hope this helps.

regards, Karen Mardahl



Help with converting a Visio file into a PDF

2006-06-28 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 07:40 -0700 28/6/06, Roopa Belur wrote:

>  My apologies for not being clear. My company uses Microsoft Word. They are 
> considering moving to Frame in the next few months.
> 
>I need help converting a Visio file into PDF without Distiller or any Adobe 
>product.

Er... just a quick query: you're not trying to go from Visio to PDF so that you 
can import the PDF into FrameMaker, are you? Because if so, I don't think you 
need to bother: PC FrameMaker can import Visio native files directly (or so 
I've been told - I don't use Visio).
-- 
Steve



Help with converting a Visio file into a PDF

2006-06-28 Thread Art Campbell
And you don't want to use the free eval version of Acrobat from the
Adobe www site
because

Art

On 6/28/06, Roopa Belur  wrote:
>
> Hi All, thanks for your responses. I appreciate it.
>
> My apologies for not being clear. My company uses Microsoft Word. They are
> considering moving to Frame in the next few months.
>
> I need help converting a Visio file into PDF without Distiller or any Adobe
> product.

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Help with converting a Visio file into a PDF

2006-06-28 Thread Roopa Belur
I have used Framemaker in my previous jobs, and I love it :-) My current 
company uses Microsoft Word. 

  I am trying to convert a .vsd (Visio file) into PDF without using Frame/Word. 
I came across http://www.processtext.com/abcvisio.html, and am wondering if you 
all have any input.

  Sincerely,
Roopa Belur

Art Campbell  wrote:
  And you don't want to use the free eval version of Acrobat from the
Adobe www site
because

Art

On 6/28/06, Roopa Belur wrote:
>
> Hi All, thanks for your responses. I appreciate it.
>
> My apologies for not being clear. My company uses Microsoft Word. They are
> considering moving to Frame in the next few months.
>
> I need help converting a Visio file into PDF without Distiller or any Adobe
> product.

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Help with converting a Visio file into a PDF

2006-06-28 Thread saurabhkude...@hsbc.co.in
Roopa, 

ABC Amber Visio convertor is a good tool and you can use it for converting 
visio file into PDF.

Infact, if your only requirement is to convert the visio file to pdf, any 
PDF convertor will work. Most PDF convertors are installed as printers and 
you can directly convert your visio file to PDF without using word/frame.

Cheers
Saurabh





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I have used Framemaker in my previous jobs, and I love it :-) My current 
company uses Microsoft Word. 

  I am trying to convert a .vsd (Visio file) into PDF without using 
Frame/Word. I came across http://www.processtext.com/abcvisio.html, and am 
wondering if you all have any input.

  Sincerely,
Roopa Belur

Art Campbell  wrote:
  And you don't want to use the free eval version of Acrobat from the
Adobe www site
because

Art

On 6/28/06, Roopa Belur wrote:
>
> Hi All, thanks for your responses. I appreciate it.
>
> My apologies for not being clear. My company uses Microsoft Word. They 
are
> considering moving to Frame in the next few months.
>
> I need help converting a Visio file into PDF without Distiller or any 
Adobe
> product.

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Help with converting a Visio file into a PDF

2006-06-28 Thread Combs, Richard
Steve Rickaby

> Er... just a quick query: you're not trying to go from Visio 
> to PDF so that you can import the PDF into FrameMaker, are 
> you? Because if so, I don't think you need to bother: PC 
> FrameMaker can import Visio native files directly (or so I've 
> been told - I don't use Visio).

Not as a file import -- unless a filter was added in 7.2 without making
it to the new features list. :-) 

You can import a Visio drawing as a linked _object_, using Windows' OLE2
capability. I've done it without problems when I just had one or two
Visio drawings in a book. But I'd be reluctant to rely on OLE for lots
and lots of graphics. There's a huge amount of complexity and overhead
for an OLE object (to make in-place editing possible). 

And of course, OLE is Windows-only, and anyone you share the FM files
with must also have Visio, so your FM files aren't very portable
anymore. 

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Help with converting a Visio file into a PDF

2006-06-28 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 09:49 -0600 28/6/06, Combs, Richard wrote:

> > Er... just a quick query: you're not trying to go from Visio
>> to PDF so that you can import the PDF into FrameMaker, are
>> you? Because if so, I don't think you need to bother: PC
>> FrameMaker can import Visio native files directly (or so I've
>> been told - I don't use Visio).
> 
>Not as a file import -- unless a filter was added in 7.2 without making
>it to the new features list. :-)
>
>You can import a Visio drawing as a linked _object_, using Windows' OLE2
>capability. I've done it without problems when I just had one or two
>Visio drawings in a book. But I'd be reluctant to rely on OLE for lots
>and lots of graphics. There's a huge amount of complexity and overhead
>for an OLE object (to make in-place editing possible).

Ah - sorry: that must be what I was remembering. From an April thread...

At 10:53 -0600 27/4/06, Linda G. Gallagher wrote:
>I know that folks will likely tell you that it's not the recommended way,
>but I have embedded Visio objects into a couple of FM books successfully. I
>learned about it from another list member (John, are you out there?), and it
>has been fine.

At 10:01 -0700 27/4/06, Hales-Crotchett, Nicole wrote:
>For what it's worth, I haven't had any troubles either embedding Visio
>objects and I've done it numerous times in several books.

At 10:03 -0700 27/4/06, Jim Light wrote:
>I have Visio 2003 (SP2) and it allows me to export as tif, gif, png. You
>can check to see if the quality is a problem, but you don't have to do
>that at all, really. You can import the vsd file as an object into
>FrameMaker.
>
>Click File > Import > Object.
>
>In the Insert Object dialog, Select Create from File.
>
>Browse to the vsd file , check the Link check box (if you want it to
>update dynamically and then Click OK.
>
>I have Frame 7.2. When I right-click on the Visio object, the bottom of
>the right-click menu has a choice called "Linked Visio Object" and the
>two sub menu items are Edit and Open.
>
>If I double-click the embedded Visio object it opens it in Visio.

>And of course, OLE is Windows-only, and anyone you share the FM files
>with must also have Visio, so your FM files aren't very portable
>anymore.

Quite.

FWIW, I had have painful experience of the 'quality' (I use the term loosely) 
of exports from Visio in non-M$ formats (i.e. anything portable). My preferred 
method would now be to create a PDF from Visio and import that into FrameMaker. 
But then, I work on a Mac...
-- 
Steve



Help with converting a Visio file into a PDF

2006-06-28 Thread Combs, Richard
Steve Rickaby wrote: 

> FWIW, I had have painful experience of the 'quality' (I use 
> the term loosely) of exports from Visio in non-M$ formats 
> (i.e. anything portable). My preferred method would now be to 
> create a PDF from Visio and import that into FrameMaker. But 
> then, I work on a Mac...

Yeah, Visio's export filters -- especially EPS -- have sucked for a long
time. 

I use PDF for practically all my Visio drawings. For one thing, I create
multiple related drawings, such as call flow diagrams, in a single
multi-page Visio file. I can print that to a multi-page PDF with a
custom page size, and then import each page of the PDF (at 100%) into my
FM doc. Print a new PDF from Visio, and all the diagrams in FM are
updated. Sweet. :-) 

As an alternative, Visio's PNG export seems to be pretty decent (at
least in Visio 2003). 

Also, I've played a little with Visio's Save As Web Page command,
choosing VML as the graphics format, and that looks pretty slick. My
multi-page drawings ended up as a set of VML (vector markup language)
files with an HTML frameset wrapper that provided navigation, pan and
zoom, search, etc. 

There are lots of options for Save As Web Page -- for vector output, SVG
is another option. If you're on Windows (sorry, Steve ) and want to
put Visio drawings on line, it's worth looking into. 

Richard 


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Help with converting a Visio file into a PDF

2006-06-28 Thread Dov Isaacs
FrameMaker does NOT have the ability to import "Visio native
files." It does have the ability to use OLE (object linking 
and embedding) links to such a Viso document file, but that
requires that Visio be installed on the system that runs
FrameMaker. Also, OLE is notoriously unreliable.

- Dov


> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces+isaacs=adobe.com at lists.frameusers.com 
> [mailto:framers-bounces+isaacs=adobe.com at lists.frameusers.com]
>  On Behalf Of Steve Rickaby
> Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 7:54 AM
> To: framers at FrameUsers.com
> Subject: Re: Help with converting a Visio file into a PDF
> 
> At 07:40 -0700 28/6/06, Roopa Belur wrote:
> 
> >  My apologies for not being clear. My company uses 
> Microsoft Word. They are considering moving to Frame in the 
> next few months.
> > 
> >I need help converting a Visio file into PDF without 
> Distiller or any Adobe product.
> 
> Er... just a quick query: you're not trying to go from Visio 
> to PDF so that you can import the PDF into FrameMaker, are 
> you? Because if so, I don't think you need to bother: PC 
> FrameMaker can import Visio native files directly (or so I've 
> been told - I don't use Visio).
> -- 
> Steve
> 



Help with converting a Visio file into a PDF

2006-06-27 Thread Roopa Belur
Greetings to all.

  I am trying to convert a Visio file into a PDF format. What is the best way 
to get a PDF of the Visio file? I am currently downloading  Adobe Universal 
PostScript Windows Driver Installer 1.0.6 - English. Is this the right tool?

Thanks in advance for your help,
Sincerely,
Roopa Belur



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