NagGram
At 12:58 -0400 30/3/07, Kyle Charlie-C7784C wrote: >If you want to read something from the printed page of an actual bound book, >I'd suggest you pay the 50 or so US dollars and buy "Publishing Fundamentals: >FrameMaker 7" by Sarah O'Keefe. Order it from scriptorium.com where you can >get the 2006 version, not to be confused with the 2002 Version called >"FrameMaker 7: The Complete Reference," by Sarah O'Keefe that's available from >Amazon.com, etc. I understand from Sarah that the former is a new issue of the latter. Ah, I see you more or less say that... I thoroughly endorse this recommendation: the book is a great deal more use than the FrameMaker user guide for a number of reasons, not least that it's more comprehensive, contains examples of proven practise and covers defining structure/EDDs. -- Steve
RE: NagGram
At 12:58 -0400 30/3/07, Kyle Charlie-C7784C wrote: >If you want to read something from the printed page of an actual bound book, >I'd suggest you pay the 50 or so US dollars and buy "Publishing Fundamentals: >FrameMaker 7" by Sarah O'Keefe. Order it from scriptorium.com where you can >get the 2006 version, not to be confused with the 2002 Version called >"FrameMaker 7: The Complete Reference," by Sarah O'Keefe that's available from >Amazon.com, etc. I understand from Sarah that the former is a new issue of the latter. Ah, I see you more or less say that... I thoroughly endorse this recommendation: the book is a great deal more use than the FrameMaker user guide for a number of reasons, not least that it's more comprehensive, contains examples of proven practise and covers defining structure/EDDs. -- Steve ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
NagGram
At 10:08 -0600 30/3/07, Eason, David wrote: >The entire civilized, English-speaking world calls the background text or >image on a page a "watermark"--but apparently not Adobe. I looked in the >index. I looked in the table of contents. I looked in the online help. I did a >search for the term "watermark." Using the manual was an exercise in >futility, but because I had not started out with high hopes for success in the >first place, I ended up frustrated but not disappointed. It gets better than that. In Acrobat, you can impose... er, overlay... er... mix in another PDF, typically containing a watermark. Acrobat allows you to insert the mixed-in image below the page contents of the current document, which it calls a 'background', or on top of the contents of the current page, which it calls a... 'watermark'. Uh? -- Steve
NagGram
Years ago, I said something about reading the manual to an Adobe employee and was told that "only weenies read the manual." I like to believe she was joking since I do read manuals and make my living producing them. Pat
Re: NagGram
Years ago, I said something about reading the manual to an Adobe employee and was told that "only weenies read the manual." I like to believe she was joking since I do read manuals and make my living producing them. Pat ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: NagGram
Richard, Why are you assuming that I was going to use a graphic for the watermark? If I was using a graphic, I would have used that as a search term. Watermarks also come in text versions, such as the word "DRAFT" centered on the page. David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Combs, Richard Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 11:14 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: NagGram Eason, David wrote: > The entire civilized, English-speaking world calls the > background text or image on a page a "watermark"--but > apparently not Adobe. I looked in the index. I looked in the > table of contents. I looked in the online help. I did a > search for the term "watermark." Using the manual was an > exercise in futility, but because I had not started out with > high hopes for success in the first place, I ended up > frustrated but not disappointed. Agree, a good indexer would certainly have included "watermark." OTOH, you could have met them half-way and found what you needed. In the index, there are entries for: -- background graphics on master pages -- graphics:background, on master pages So on the index tab, just typing the term you used to _describe_ a watermark -- "background" -- will get you there. A search for background graphic works, too. Indexers should try to think of appropriate synonyms. But so should index users. Richard -- Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/david.eason%40lsi.co m Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: NagGram
I don't know. I never got far enough into the documentation to come close to anything resembling a term. I just created a text frame on the master page, typed some text in it, rotated it to the position I wanted, used the color definitions process to create a gray-shaded new color, named it "watermark," and made it the default text for the watermark paragraph tag. Regards, David Eason LSI Logic Contract Technical Writer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 303-544-5433 Cell: 303-941-3512 -Original Message- From: Charles Beck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 11:23 AM To: Eason, David; Gordon McLean Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: NagGram Just out of curiosity, what *does* Adobe call a watermark? ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: NagGram
OK...I would need a PowerPoint presentation of a Captivate session to visualize that process! Regards, David Eason LSI Logic Contract Technical Writer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 303-544-5433 Cell: 303-941-3512 -Original Message- From: Steve Rickaby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 10:58 AM To: Eason, David; Gordon McLean Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: NagGram At 10:08 -0600 30/3/07, Eason, David wrote: >The entire civilized, English-speaking world calls the background text or image on a page a "watermark"--but apparently not Adobe. I looked in the index. I looked in the table of contents. I looked in the online help. I did a search for the term "watermark." Using the manual was an exercise in futility, but because I had not started out with high hopes for success in the first place, I ended up frustrated but not disappointed. It gets better than that. In Acrobat, you can impose... er, overlay... er... mix in another PDF, typically containing a watermark. Acrobat allows you to insert the mixed-in image below the page contents of the current document, which it calls a 'background', or on top of the contents of the current page, which it calls a... 'watermark'. Uh? -- Steve ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: NagGram
I'm new to FM and so far my experience locating a printed FM 7.x Users Guide has been akin to my quest for the Holy Grail. Perhaps some of the more knowledgeable members of the list could point out how one gets a printed manual for FM 7.x from Adobe? A couple weeks ago, I did find a PDF of the FM 7.0 online help, which contains a "great" 60 page Quick Reference section If you want to read something from the printed page of an actual bound book, I'd suggest you pay the 50 or so US dollars and buy "Publishing Fundamentals: FrameMaker 7" by Sarah O'Keefe. Order it from scriptorium.com where you can get the 2006 version, not to be confused with the 2002 Version called "FrameMaker 7: The Complete Reference," by Sarah O'Keefe that's available from Amazon.com, etc. Mad you say? Charlie Kyle -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gordon McLean Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 12:03 AM Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: NagGram Read the manual? Are you mad? ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
NagGram
Just out of curiosity, what *does* Adobe call a watermark? -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+charles.beck=infor@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+charles.beck=infor.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Eason, David Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 12:09 PM To: Gordon McLean Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: NagGram I usually turn to the Adobe documentation as a last resort because, frankly, it is not very good. On a 1-to-10 scale of user-friendliness and usability, it is about a 6...well, maybe a 7. For example, years ago, I knew how to create watermarks and did them routinely and automatically. Last week, after not needing that particular skill for a while, I again had reason to create a watermark for a client. But, I had forgotten how. So, I decided to look in the documentation to find the description and refresh my memory of how to create a watermark. I referred to my usual first choice, the Complete Reference book first, but could not find the term...which should have raised a red flag right then. Next I went to the Adobe documentation. It took me a while to find it...it had been that long since I had used it. Conversely, my Complete Reference book is in shreds because I have used it so much. The entire civilized, English-speaking world calls the background text or image on a page a "watermark"--but apparently not Adobe. I looked in the index. I looked in the table of contents. I looked in the online help. I did a search for the term "watermark." Using the manual was an exercise in futility, but because I had not started out with high hopes for success in the first place, I ended up frustrated but not disappointed. I eventually figured out how to create a watermark, but still...if Adobe had simply used the term and provided a one-stop access point in the index, my life would have been so much easier. Microsoft has a better method and documentation for creating a watermark. Regards, David Eason LSI Logic Contract Technical Writer David.eason at lsi.com Phone: 303-544-5433 Cell: 303-941-3512 -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+david.eason=lsi@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+david.eason=lsi.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Gordon McLean Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 1:03 AM Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: NagGram Read the manual? Are you mad? NO-ONE DOES THAT!! Call yerself a technical author... ;-) And yes, it's Friday. (valid point though, although I use The Complete Reference book more than the manual). Gordon -Original Message- Subject: NagGram From the tenor of a lot of the recent postings here, I can only conclude that a lot of folks out there are not reading the FM Manual. At all. My suggestion is to keep a copy of the FM manual handy for bedroom -- or bathroom -- reading. And don't forget the Quick Reference Card. It is, you know, permissible to browse the Manual by itself, just for reference and elucidation. It's amazing what you can learn. will white One Lambda, Inc. This email (and any attachments) is private and confidential, and is intended solely for the addressee. If you have received this communication in error please remove it and inform us via telephone or email. Although we take all possible steps to ensure mail and attachments are free from malicious content, malware and viruses, we cannot accept any responsibility whatsoever for any changes to content outwith our administrative bounds. The views represented within this mail are solely the view of the author and do not reflect the views of the organisation as a whole. Graham Technology plc Registered in Scotland company no. SC143434 Registered Office India of Inchinnan, Renfrewshire, Scotland PA4 9LH http://www.grahamtechnology.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as david.eason at lsi.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/david.eason%40lsi.co m Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as Charles.Beck at infor.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.fra
NagGram
I'm new to FM and so far my experience locating a printed FM 7.x Users Guide has been akin to my quest for the Holy Grail. Perhaps some of the more knowledgeable members of the list could point out how one gets a printed manual for FM 7.x from Adobe? A couple weeks ago, I did find a PDF of the FM 7.0 online help, which contains a "great" 60 page Quick Reference section If you want to read something from the printed page of an actual bound book, I'd suggest you pay the 50 or so US dollars and buy "Publishing Fundamentals: FrameMaker 7" by Sarah O'Keefe. Order it from scriptorium.com where you can get the 2006 version, not to be confused with the 2002 Version called "FrameMaker 7: The Complete Reference," by Sarah O'Keefe that's available from Amazon.com, etc. Mad you say? Charlie Kyle -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+c7784c=motorola@lists.frameusers.com On Behalf Of Gordon McLean Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 12:03 AM Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: NagGram Read the manual? Are you mad?
NagGram
Eason, David wrote: > Why are you assuming that I was going to use a graphic for > the watermark? > > If I was using a graphic, I would have used that as a search term. > Watermarks also come in text versions, such as the word > "DRAFT" centered on the page. I'm not. I'm assuming you can extrapolate. I suggested typing "background" -- the term you used -- on the index tab. I cited "background graphics" examples, yes, but "background text" works, too. I didn't think I had to specify each and every instance to make my point clear. FWIW, when the discussion turns to watermarks, I think printer driver. Horses for courses, as the Brits say. Richard -- Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 --
NagGram
Richard, Why are you assuming that I was going to use a graphic for the watermark? If I was using a graphic, I would have used that as a search term. Watermarks also come in text versions, such as the word "DRAFT" centered on the page. David -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+david.eason=lsi@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+david.eason=lsi.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Combs, Richard Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 11:14 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: NagGram Eason, David wrote: > The entire civilized, English-speaking world calls the > background text or image on a page a "watermark"--but > apparently not Adobe. I looked in the index. I looked in the > table of contents. I looked in the online help. I did a > search for the term "watermark." Using the manual was an > exercise in futility, but because I had not started out with > high hopes for success in the first place, I ended up > frustrated but not disappointed. Agree, a good indexer would certainly have included "watermark." OTOH, you could have met them half-way and found what you needed. In the index, there are entries for: -- background graphics on master pages -- graphics:background, on master pages So on the index tab, just typing the term you used to _describe_ a watermark -- "background" -- will get you there. A search for background graphic works, too. Indexers should try to think of appropriate synonyms. But so should index users. Richard -- Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as david.eason at lsi.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/david.eason%40lsi.co m Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
NagGram
I don't know. I never got far enough into the documentation to come close to anything resembling a term. I just created a text frame on the master page, typed some text in it, rotated it to the position I wanted, used the color definitions process to create a gray-shaded new color, named it "watermark," and made it the default text for the watermark paragraph tag. Regards, David Eason LSI Logic Contract Technical Writer David.eason at lsi.com Phone: 303-544-5433 Cell: 303-941-3512 -Original Message- From: Charles Beck [mailto:charles.b...@infor.com] Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 11:23 AM To: Eason, David; Gordon McLean Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: NagGram Just out of curiosity, what *does* Adobe call a watermark?
NagGram
OK...I would need a PowerPoint presentation of a Captivate session to visualize that process! Regards, David Eason LSI Logic Contract Technical Writer David.eason at lsi.com Phone: 303-544-5433 Cell: 303-941-3512 -Original Message- From: Steve Rickaby [mailto:srick...@wordmongers.demon.co.uk] Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 10:58 AM To: Eason, David; Gordon McLean Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: NagGram At 10:08 -0600 30/3/07, Eason, David wrote: >The entire civilized, English-speaking world calls the background text or image on a page a "watermark"--but apparently not Adobe. I looked in the index. I looked in the table of contents. I looked in the online help. I did a search for the term "watermark." Using the manual was an exercise in futility, but because I had not started out with high hopes for success in the first place, I ended up frustrated but not disappointed. It gets better than that. In Acrobat, you can impose... er, overlay... er... mix in another PDF, typically containing a watermark. Acrobat allows you to insert the mixed-in image below the page contents of the current document, which it calls a 'background', or on top of the contents of the current page, which it calls a... 'watermark'. Uh? -- Steve
NagGram
Eason, David wrote: > The entire civilized, English-speaking world calls the > background text or image on a page a "watermark"--but > apparently not Adobe. I looked in the index. I looked in the > table of contents. I looked in the online help. I did a > search for the term "watermark." Using the manual was an > exercise in futility, but because I had not started out with > high hopes for success in the first place, I ended up > frustrated but not disappointed. Agree, a good indexer would certainly have included "watermark." OTOH, you could have met them half-way and found what you needed. In the index, there are entries for: -- background graphics on master pages -- graphics:background, on master pages So on the index tab, just typing the term you used to _describe_ a watermark -- "background" -- will get you there. A search for background graphic works, too. Indexers should try to think of appropriate synonyms. But so should index users. Richard -- Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 --
NagGram
Dodd, Frank J wrote: > You get a manual. ? > We only get the software package installed on our computer. You get an F1 key, don't you? It's not the greatest help in the world, but it's not that bad, either. > The manual is the guy next to you who has been learning it > for the last > 5 years. > And I absolutely refuse to let him accompany me to the bathroom! Granted, asking the guy next to you may be faster. But you're right -- you don't want to get too chummy. ;-) Richard -- Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 --
Watermark WAS: NagGram
Glenn Voyles wrote: > I tried putting a watermark in a file once, but it messed up my monitor. > First there was a loud sizzle and then a small explosion. All for naught. > When I opened the file on another computer, the watermark was not there. > > Now I just try to imitate the watermark electronically. Real water doesn't > work. =? Lending true meaning to the phrase: "Floating Point Processor". :) Z
Watermark WAS: NagGram
I tried putting a watermark in a file once, but it messed up my monitor. First there was a loud sizzle and then a small explosion. All for naught. When I opened the file on another computer, the watermark was not there. Now I just try to imitate the watermark electronically. Real water doesn't work. =? -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+glenn.voyles=mitchell.com at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+glenn.voyles=mitchell@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Steve Rickaby Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 09:58 To: Eason, David; Gordon McLean Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: NagGram At 10:08 -0600 30/3/07, Eason, David wrote: >The entire civilized, English-speaking world calls the background text or >image on a page a "watermark"--but apparently not Adobe. I looked in the >index. I looked in the table of contents. I looked in the online help. I did a >search for the term "watermark." Using the manual was an exercise in >futility, but because I had not started out with high hopes for success in the >first place, I ended up frustrated but not disappointed. It gets better than that. In Acrobat, you can impose... er, overlay... er... mix in another PDF, typically containing a watermark. Acrobat allows you to insert the mixed-in image below the page contents of the current document, which it calls a 'background', or on top of the contents of the current page, which it calls a... 'watermark'. Uh? -- Steve ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as glenn.voyles at mitchell.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/glenn.voyles%40mitchell.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: NagGram
Eason, David wrote: > Why are you assuming that I was going to use a graphic for > the watermark? > > If I was using a graphic, I would have used that as a search term. > Watermarks also come in text versions, such as the word > "DRAFT" centered on the page. I'm not. I'm assuming you can extrapolate. I suggested typing "background" -- the term you used -- on the index tab. I cited "background graphics" examples, yes, but "background text" works, too. I didn't think I had to specify each and every instance to make my point clear. FWIW, when the discussion turns to watermarks, I think printer driver. Horses for courses, as the Brits say. Richard -- Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
NagGram
I usually turn to the Adobe documentation as a last resort because, frankly, it is not very good. On a 1-to-10 scale of user-friendliness and usability, it is about a 6...well, maybe a 7. For example, years ago, I knew how to create watermarks and did them routinely and automatically. Last week, after not needing that particular skill for a while, I again had reason to create a watermark for a client. But, I had forgotten how. So, I decided to look in the documentation to find the description and refresh my memory of how to create a watermark. I referred to my usual first choice, the Complete Reference book first, but could not find the term...which should have raised a red flag right then. Next I went to the Adobe documentation. It took me a while to find it...it had been that long since I had used it. Conversely, my Complete Reference book is in shreds because I have used it so much. The entire civilized, English-speaking world calls the background text or image on a page a "watermark"--but apparently not Adobe. I looked in the index. I looked in the table of contents. I looked in the online help. I did a search for the term "watermark." Using the manual was an exercise in futility, but because I had not started out with high hopes for success in the first place, I ended up frustrated but not disappointed. I eventually figured out how to create a watermark, but still...if Adobe had simply used the term and provided a one-stop access point in the index, my life would have been so much easier. Microsoft has a better method and documentation for creating a watermark. Regards, David Eason LSI Logic Contract Technical Writer David.eason at lsi.com Phone: 303-544-5433 Cell: 303-941-3512 -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+david.eason=lsi@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+david.eason=lsi.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Gordon McLean Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 1:03 AM Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: NagGram Read the manual? Are you mad? NO-ONE DOES THAT!! Call yerself a technical author... ;-) And yes, it's Friday. (valid point though, although I use The Complete Reference book more than the manual). Gordon -Original Message- Subject: NagGram From the tenor of a lot of the recent postings here, I can only conclude that a lot of folks out there are not reading the FM Manual. At all. My suggestion is to keep a copy of the FM manual handy for bedroom -- or bathroom -- reading. And don't forget the Quick Reference Card. It is, you know, permissible to browse the Manual by itself, just for reference and elucidation. It's amazing what you can learn. will white One Lambda, Inc. This email (and any attachments) is private and confidential, and is intended solely for the addressee. If you have received this communication in error please remove it and inform us via telephone or email. Although we take all possible steps to ensure mail and attachments are free from malicious content, malware and viruses, we cannot accept any responsibility whatsoever for any changes to content outwith our administrative bounds. The views represented within this mail are solely the view of the author and do not reflect the views of the organisation as a whole. Graham Technology plc Registered in Scotland company no. SC143434 Registered Office India of Inchinnan, Renfrewshire, Scotland PA4 9LH http://www.grahamtechnology.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as david.eason at lsi.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/david.eason%40lsi.co m Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Watermark WAS: NagGram
Glenn Voyles wrote: I tried putting a watermark in a file once, but it messed up my monitor. First there was a loud sizzle and then a small explosion. All for naught. When I opened the file on another computer, the watermark was not there. Now I just try to imitate the watermark electronically. Real water doesn't work. =Þ Lending true meaning to the phrase: "Floating Point Processor". :) Z ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Watermark WAS: NagGram
I tried putting a watermark in a file once, but it messed up my monitor. First there was a loud sizzle and then a small explosion. All for naught. When I opened the file on another computer, the watermark was not there. Now I just try to imitate the watermark electronically. Real water doesn't work. =Þ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Rickaby Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 09:58 To: Eason, David; Gordon McLean Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: NagGram At 10:08 -0600 30/3/07, Eason, David wrote: >The entire civilized, English-speaking world calls the background text or >image on a page a "watermark"--but apparently not Adobe. I looked in the >index. I looked in the table of contents. I looked in the online help. I did a >search for the term "watermark." Using the manual was an exercise in >futility, but because I had not started out with high hopes for success in the >first place, I ended up frustrated but not disappointed. It gets better than that. In Acrobat, you can impose... er, overlay... er... mix in another PDF, typically containing a watermark. Acrobat allows you to insert the mixed-in image below the page contents of the current document, which it calls a 'background', or on top of the contents of the current page, which it calls a... 'watermark'. Uh? -- Steve ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/glenn.voyles%40mitchell.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: NagGram
Just out of curiosity, what *does* Adobe call a watermark? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eason, David Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 12:09 PM To: Gordon McLean Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: NagGram I usually turn to the Adobe documentation as a last resort because, frankly, it is not very good. On a 1-to-10 scale of user-friendliness and usability, it is about a 6...well, maybe a 7. For example, years ago, I knew how to create watermarks and did them routinely and automatically. Last week, after not needing that particular skill for a while, I again had reason to create a watermark for a client. But, I had forgotten how. So, I decided to look in the documentation to find the description and refresh my memory of how to create a watermark. I referred to my usual first choice, the Complete Reference book first, but could not find the term...which should have raised a red flag right then. Next I went to the Adobe documentation. It took me a while to find it...it had been that long since I had used it. Conversely, my Complete Reference book is in shreds because I have used it so much. The entire civilized, English-speaking world calls the background text or image on a page a "watermark"--but apparently not Adobe. I looked in the index. I looked in the table of contents. I looked in the online help. I did a search for the term "watermark." Using the manual was an exercise in futility, but because I had not started out with high hopes for success in the first place, I ended up frustrated but not disappointed. I eventually figured out how to create a watermark, but still...if Adobe had simply used the term and provided a one-stop access point in the index, my life would have been so much easier. Microsoft has a better method and documentation for creating a watermark. Regards, David Eason LSI Logic Contract Technical Writer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 303-544-5433 Cell: 303-941-3512 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gordon McLean Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 1:03 AM Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: NagGram Read the manual? Are you mad? NO-ONE DOES THAT!! Call yerself a technical author... ;-) And yes, it's Friday. (valid point though, although I use The Complete Reference book more than the manual). Gordon -Original Message- Subject: NagGram From the tenor of a lot of the recent postings here, I can only conclude that a lot of folks out there are not reading the FM Manual. At all. My suggestion is to keep a copy of the FM manual handy for bedroom -- or bathroom -- reading. And don't forget the Quick Reference Card. It is, you know, permissible to browse the Manual by itself, just for reference and elucidation. It's amazing what you can learn. will white One Lambda, Inc. This email (and any attachments) is private and confidential, and is intended solely for the addressee. If you have received this communication in error please remove it and inform us via telephone or email. Although we take all possible steps to ensure mail and attachments are free from malicious content, malware and viruses, we cannot accept any responsibility whatsoever for any changes to content outwith our administrative bounds. The views represented within this mail are solely the view of the author and do not reflect the views of the organisation as a whole. Graham Technology plc Registered in Scotland company no. SC143434 Registered Office India of Inchinnan, Renfrewshire, Scotland PA4 9LH http://www.grahamtechnology.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/david.eason%40lsi.co m Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/charles.beck%40infor .com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. __
RE: NagGram
Eason, David wrote: > The entire civilized, English-speaking world calls the > background text or image on a page a "watermark"--but > apparently not Adobe. I looked in the index. I looked in the > table of contents. I looked in the online help. I did a > search for the term "watermark." Using the manual was an > exercise in futility, but because I had not started out with > high hopes for success in the first place, I ended up > frustrated but not disappointed. Agree, a good indexer would certainly have included "watermark." OTOH, you could have met them half-way and found what you needed. In the index, there are entries for: -- background graphics on master pages -- graphics:background, on master pages So on the index tab, just typing the term you used to _describe_ a watermark -- "background" -- will get you there. A search for background graphic works, too. Indexers should try to think of appropriate synonyms. But so should index users. Richard -- Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: NagGram
Dodd, Frank J wrote: > You get a manual. ? > We only get the software package installed on our computer. You get an F1 key, don't you? It's not the greatest help in the world, but it's not that bad, either. > The manual is the guy next to you who has been learning it > for the last > 5 years. > And I absolutely refuse to let him accompany me to the bathroom! Granted, asking the guy next to you may be faster. But you're right -- you don't want to get too chummy. ;-) Richard -- Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: NagGram
At 10:08 -0600 30/3/07, Eason, David wrote: >The entire civilized, English-speaking world calls the background text or >image on a page a "watermark"--but apparently not Adobe. I looked in the >index. I looked in the table of contents. I looked in the online help. I did a >search for the term "watermark." Using the manual was an exercise in >futility, but because I had not started out with high hopes for success in the >first place, I ended up frustrated but not disappointed. It gets better than that. In Acrobat, you can impose... er, overlay... er... mix in another PDF, typically containing a watermark. Acrobat allows you to insert the mixed-in image below the page contents of the current document, which it calls a 'background', or on top of the contents of the current page, which it calls a... 'watermark'. Uh? -- Steve ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: NagGram
I usually turn to the Adobe documentation as a last resort because, frankly, it is not very good. On a 1-to-10 scale of user-friendliness and usability, it is about a 6...well, maybe a 7. For example, years ago, I knew how to create watermarks and did them routinely and automatically. Last week, after not needing that particular skill for a while, I again had reason to create a watermark for a client. But, I had forgotten how. So, I decided to look in the documentation to find the description and refresh my memory of how to create a watermark. I referred to my usual first choice, the Complete Reference book first, but could not find the term...which should have raised a red flag right then. Next I went to the Adobe documentation. It took me a while to find it...it had been that long since I had used it. Conversely, my Complete Reference book is in shreds because I have used it so much. The entire civilized, English-speaking world calls the background text or image on a page a "watermark"--but apparently not Adobe. I looked in the index. I looked in the table of contents. I looked in the online help. I did a search for the term "watermark." Using the manual was an exercise in futility, but because I had not started out with high hopes for success in the first place, I ended up frustrated but not disappointed. I eventually figured out how to create a watermark, but still...if Adobe had simply used the term and provided a one-stop access point in the index, my life would have been so much easier. Microsoft has a better method and documentation for creating a watermark. Regards, David Eason LSI Logic Contract Technical Writer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 303-544-5433 Cell: 303-941-3512 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gordon McLean Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 1:03 AM Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: NagGram Read the manual? Are you mad? NO-ONE DOES THAT!! Call yerself a technical author... ;-) And yes, it's Friday. (valid point though, although I use The Complete Reference book more than the manual). Gordon -Original Message- Subject: NagGram From the tenor of a lot of the recent postings here, I can only conclude that a lot of folks out there are not reading the FM Manual. At all. My suggestion is to keep a copy of the FM manual handy for bedroom -- or bathroom -- reading. And don't forget the Quick Reference Card. It is, you know, permissible to browse the Manual by itself, just for reference and elucidation. It's amazing what you can learn. will white One Lambda, Inc. This email (and any attachments) is private and confidential, and is intended solely for the addressee. If you have received this communication in error please remove it and inform us via telephone or email. Although we take all possible steps to ensure mail and attachments are free from malicious content, malware and viruses, we cannot accept any responsibility whatsoever for any changes to content outwith our administrative bounds. The views represented within this mail are solely the view of the author and do not reflect the views of the organisation as a whole. Graham Technology plc Registered in Scotland company no. SC143434 Registered Office India of Inchinnan, Renfrewshire, Scotland PA4 9LH http://www.grahamtechnology.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/david.eason%40lsi.co m Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: NagGram
You get a manual. ? We only get the software package installed on our computer. The manual is the guy next to you who has been learning it for the last 5 years. And I absolutely refuse to let him accompany me to the bathroom! Frank -Original Message- From: Gordon McLean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 12:03 AM Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: NagGram Read the manual? Are you mad? NO-ONE DOES THAT!! Call yerself a technical author... ;-) And yes, it's Friday. (valid point though, although I use The Complete Reference book more than the manual). Gordon -Original Message- Subject: NagGram From the tenor of a lot of the recent postings here, I can only conclude that a lot of folks out there are not reading the FM Manual. At all. My suggestion is to keep a copy of the FM manual handy for bedroom -- or bathroom -- reading. And don't forget the Quick Reference Card. It is, you know, permissible to browse the Manual by itself, just for reference and elucidation. It's amazing what you can learn. will white One Lambda, Inc. This email (and any attachments) is private and confidential, and is intended solely for the addressee. If you have received this communication in error please remove it and inform us via telephone or email. Although we take all possible steps to ensure mail and attachments are free from malicious content, malware and viruses, we cannot accept any responsibility whatsoever for any changes to content outwith our administrative bounds. The views represented within this mail are solely the view of the author and do not reflect the views of the organisation as a whole. Graham Technology plc Registered in Scotland company no. SC143434 Registered Office India of Inchinnan, Renfrewshire, Scotland PA4 9LH http://www.grahamtechnology.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/frank.j.dodd%40boein g.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
NagGram
Read the manual? Are you mad? NO-ONE DOES THAT!! Call yerself a technical author... ;-) And yes, it's Friday. (valid point though, although I use The Complete Reference book more than the manual). Gordon -Original Message- Subject: NagGram From the tenor of a lot of the recent postings here, I can only conclude that a lot of folks out there are not reading the FM Manual. At all. My suggestion is to keep a copy of the FM manual handy for bedroom -- or bathroom -- reading. And don't forget the Quick Reference Card. It is, you know, permissible to browse the Manual by itself, just for reference and elucidation. It's amazing what you can learn. will white One Lambda, Inc. This email (and any attachments) is private and confidential, and is intended solely for the addressee. If you have received this communication in error please remove it and inform us via telephone or email. Although we take all possible steps to ensure mail and attachments are free from malicious content, malware and viruses, we cannot accept any responsibility whatsoever for any changes to content outwith our administrative bounds. The views represented within this mail are solely the view of the author and do not reflect the views of the organisation as a whole. Graham Technology plc Registered in Scotland company no. SC143434 Registered Office India of Inchinnan, Renfrewshire, Scotland PA4 9LH http://www.grahamtechnology.com
NagGram
You get a manual. ? We only get the software package installed on our computer. The manual is the guy next to you who has been learning it for the last 5 years. And I absolutely refuse to let him accompany me to the bathroom! Frank -Original Message- From: Gordon McLean [mailto:gordon.mcl...@grahamtechnology.com] Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 12:03 AM Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: NagGram Read the manual? Are you mad? NO-ONE DOES THAT!! Call yerself a technical author... ;-) And yes, it's Friday. (valid point though, although I use The Complete Reference book more than the manual). Gordon -Original Message- Subject: NagGram From the tenor of a lot of the recent postings here, I can only conclude that a lot of folks out there are not reading the FM Manual. At all. My suggestion is to keep a copy of the FM manual handy for bedroom -- or bathroom -- reading. And don't forget the Quick Reference Card. It is, you know, permissible to browse the Manual by itself, just for reference and elucidation. It's amazing what you can learn. will white One Lambda, Inc. This email (and any attachments) is private and confidential, and is intended solely for the addressee. If you have received this communication in error please remove it and inform us via telephone or email. Although we take all possible steps to ensure mail and attachments are free from malicious content, malware and viruses, we cannot accept any responsibility whatsoever for any changes to content outwith our administrative bounds. The views represented within this mail are solely the view of the author and do not reflect the views of the organisation as a whole. Graham Technology plc Registered in Scotland company no. SC143434 Registered Office India of Inchinnan, Renfrewshire, Scotland PA4 9LH http://www.grahamtechnology.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as frank.j.dodd at boeing.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/frank.j.dodd%40boein g.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
NagGram
From the tenor of a lot of the recent postings here, I can only conclude that a lot of folks out there are not reading the FM Manual. At all. My suggestion is to keep a copy of the FM manual handy for bedroom -- or bathroom -- reading. And don't forget the Quick Reference Card. It is, you know, permissible to browse the Manual by itself, just for reference and elucidation. It's amazing what you can learn. will white One Lambda, Inc. On Mar 29, 2007, at 12:37 PM, Kelley West wrote: > ++ There is something fascinating about science. One gets such wholesale returns of conjecture out of such a trifling investment of fact. - Twain ++
RE: NagGram
Read the manual? Are you mad? NO-ONE DOES THAT!! Call yerself a technical author... ;-) And yes, it's Friday. (valid point though, although I use The Complete Reference book more than the manual). Gordon -Original Message- Subject: NagGram From the tenor of a lot of the recent postings here, I can only conclude that a lot of folks out there are not reading the FM Manual. At all. My suggestion is to keep a copy of the FM manual handy for bedroom -- or bathroom -- reading. And don't forget the Quick Reference Card. It is, you know, permissible to browse the Manual by itself, just for reference and elucidation. It's amazing what you can learn. will white One Lambda, Inc. This email (and any attachments) is private and confidential, and is intended solely for the addressee. If you have received this communication in error please remove it and inform us via telephone or email. Although we take all possible steps to ensure mail and attachments are free from malicious content, malware and viruses, we cannot accept any responsibility whatsoever for any changes to content outwith our administrative bounds. The views represented within this mail are solely the view of the author and do not reflect the views of the organisation as a whole. Graham Technology plc Registered in Scotland company no. SC143434 Registered Office India of Inchinnan, Renfrewshire, Scotland PA4 9LH http://www.grahamtechnology.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
NagGram
From the tenor of a lot of the recent postings here, I can only conclude that a lot of folks out there are not reading the FM Manual. At all. My suggestion is to keep a copy of the FM manual handy for bedroom -- or bathroom -- reading. And don't forget the Quick Reference Card. It is, you know, permissible to browse the Manual by itself, just for reference and elucidation. It's amazing what you can learn. will white One Lambda, Inc. On Mar 29, 2007, at 12:37 PM, Kelley West wrote: ++ There is something fascinating about science. One gets such wholesale returns of conjecture out of such a trifling investment of fact. - Twain ++ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
