Grant Hogarth wrote:
> On Thursday, June 29, 2006 12:43 PM the ever-sharp Bill Briggs noted
> web> At 12:33 PM -0600 6/29/06, Grant Hogarth, self-professed pedant,
> wrote:
> GH>>To build still further on Eric's excellent discourse:
...
> Realizing just how long it has been since he has had to writ
On Thursday, June 29, 2006 12:43 PM the ever-sharp Bill Briggs noted
web> At 12:33 PM -0600 6/29/06, Grant Hogarth, self-professed pedant,
wrote:
GH>>To build still further on Eric's excellent discourse:
GH>>There also exists the possibility of a conditional dependency of
action.
GH>> E.g. "I
Grant Hogarth would like to recall the message, "OT: Syntax for if/then
statement".
On Thursday, June 29, 2006 12:43 PM the ever-sharp Bill Briggs noted
At 12:33 PM -0600 6/29/06, Grant Hogarth, self-professed pedant, wrote:
GH>>To build still further on Eric's excellent discourse:
GH>>There also exists the possibility of a conditional dependency of
action.
GH>> E.g. "If you
Grant Hogarth wrote:
On Thursday, June 29, 2006 12:43 PM the ever-sharp Bill Briggs noted
web> At 12:33 PM -0600 6/29/06, Grant Hogarth, self-professed pedant,
wrote:
GH>>To build still further on Eric's excellent discourse:
...
Realizing just how long it has been since he has had to write expl
On Thursday, June 29, 2006 12:43 PM the ever-sharp Bill Briggs noted
web> At 12:33 PM -0600 6/29/06, Grant Hogarth, self-professed pedant,
wrote:
GH>>To build still further on Eric's excellent discourse:
GH>>There also exists the possibility of a conditional dependency of
action.
GH>> E.g. "I
Grant Hogarth would like to recall the message, "OT: Syntax for if/then
statement".
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On Thursday, June 29, 2006 12:43 PM the ever-sharp Bill Briggs noted
At 12:33 PM -0600 6/29/06, Grant Hogarth, self-professed pedant, wrote:
GH>>To build still further on Eric's excellent discourse:
GH>>There also exists the possibility of a conditional dependency of
action.
GH>> E.g. "If you
At 11:22 -0600 29/6/06, Tammy.VanBoening at jeppesen.com wrote:
>Our new editor wants to add the word "and" to such statements - if blah>, AND then . Both I and the other writer disagree with the
>editor on this one - it should be just if/then - no "and."
Boy are you going to have fun with your
At 12:33 PM -0600 6/29/06, Grant Hogarth, self-professed pedant, wrote:
>To build still further on Eric's excellent discourse:
>
>There also exists the possibility of a conditional dependency of action.
> E.g. "If your book wins a Pulitzer, [then] you
> [will/can/must/shall/may/ou
At 2:22 PM -0400 6/29/06, T.W. Smith wrote:
>2) Click File, click New. That comma splice becomes, "Click File, then click
>New." which is technically incorrect and ought be "Click File, and then click
>New."
But this isn't even the same construct. This is an imperative; a set of
instructions:
At 2:04 PM -0400 6/29/06, eric.dunn at ca.transport.bombardier.com wrote:
>Firstly, logically speaking, isn't there a difference between:
>- If A, and then B
>and
>- If A and B
From the point of view of someone who is used to such structures in
programming languages the first variant would never
Bill Briggs wrote on 06/29/2006 03:30:32 PM:
> At 2:04 PM -0400 6/29/06, eric.dunn at ca.transport.bombardier.com wrote:
> >Firstly, logically speaking, isn't there a difference between:
> >- If A, and then B
> >and
> >- If A and B
> From the point of view of someone who is used to such structures
I think there's two things going on here. But, the editor should be open to
discussion because she's a member of the team.
Anyway:
1) If X then Y is fine. The conditional clause can be introduced that way.
However, where I think the editor is going is the need for coordinating
conjunctions to av
s about this...
Cheers,
Chuck Beck
-Original Message-----
Subject: Re: OT: Syntax for if/then statement
On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 11:22:20 -0600, Tammy.VanBoening at jeppesen.com
wrote:
>Our new editor wants to add the word "and" to such statements - if
>, AND then . Both I and the
Steve Rickaby wrote on 06/29/2006 01:47:56 PM:
> If/then and If/then/else or If/then/eiseif/else have been the
> constructs in any programming language that I can remember working
> in.
While I won't argue with the underlying point Steve's logic with respect
to the addition of an AND clause to
But if you're asked for supporting facts, you'll print out all these
e-mails and hand them to your "editor", right? ;-)
On 6/29/06, Tammy.VanBoening at jeppesen.com
wrote:
> LOL! This list makes my day. Believe you me, I would like to be blunt as
> some of you were in your emails (the responses
I think you need to screen for editors better. I'm not a grammarian by
any stretch of the imagination, but I certainly know you don't use a
coordinating conjunction to string together dependent clauses in that
manner.
If you want icecream, and then you buy some.
Makes absolutely no sense. Time to
To build still further on Eric's excellent discourse:
There also exists the possibility of a conditional dependency of action.
E.g. "If your book wins a Pulitzer, [then] you
[will/can/must/shall/may/ought to/...] celebrate..."
- If A, then B (explicit consequence, implie
Bill Briggs wrote on 06/29/2006 03:30:32 PM:
> At 2:04 PM -0400 6/29/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >Firstly, logically speaking, isn't there a difference between:
> >- If A, and then B
> >and
> >- If A and B
> From the point of view of someone who is used to such structures in
> programming lang
Donald, Christine, Jeremy, et. al.
LOL! This list makes my day. Believe you me, I would like to be blunt as
some of you were in your emails (the responses were hysterical!), but I
can summarize the responses (in a politically correct format, mind you!)
and go from there.
Thanks for all of the
At 12:33 PM -0600 6/29/06, Grant Hogarth, self-professed pedant, wrote:
>To build still further on Eric's excellent discourse:
>
>There also exists the possibility of a conditional dependency of action.
> E.g. "If your book wins a Pulitzer, [then] you
> [will/can/must/shall/may/ou
At 2:22 PM -0400 6/29/06, T.W. Smith wrote:
>2) Click File, click New. That comma splice becomes, "Click File, then click
>New." which is technically incorrect and ought be "Click File, and then click
>New."
But this isn't even the same construct. This is an imperative; a set of
instructions:
To build still further on Eric's excellent discourse:
There also exists the possibility of a conditional dependency of action.
E.g. "If your book wins a Pulitzer, [then] you
[will/can/must/shall/may/ought to/...] celebrate..."
- If A, then B (explicit consequence, implie
At 2:04 PM -0400 6/29/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Firstly, logically speaking, isn't there a difference between:
>- If A, and then B
>and
>- If A and B
From the point of view of someone who is used to such structures in
programming languages the first variant would never be used; the "and" wou
I think there's two things going on here. But, the editor should be open to
discussion because she's a member of the team.
Anyway:
1) If X then Y is fine. The conditional clause can be introduced that way.
However, where I think the editor is going is the need for coordinating
conjunctions to a
All,
I am hoping the fellow writers on this list can provide some information
for this request. Another writer here at Jeppesen and I have always used
the following syntax for a conditional/causal statement: If ,
then . We have a new editor that just joined who is in the
process of defining ou
You need to replace your new editor! Eek.
Here are some references that *might* be helpful, although none of them
*directly* answer your question.
http://users.ipfw.edu/blythes/teach/toolkit/dc.htm
http://grammar.uoregon.edu/clauses/dependent.html
http://www.kentlaw.edu/academics/lrw/grinker/Lwt
You need to replace your new editor! Eek.
Here are some references that *might* be helpful, although none of them
*directly* answer your question.
http://users.ipfw.edu/blythes/teach/toolkit/dc.htm
http://grammar.uoregon.edu/clauses/dependent.html
http://www.kentlaw.edu/academics/lrw/grinker/Lwta
Steve Rickaby wrote on 06/29/2006 01:47:56 PM:
> If/then and If/then/else or If/then/eiseif/else have been the
> constructs in any programming language that I can remember working
> in.
While I won't argue with the underlying point Steve's logic with respect
to the addition of an AND clause to
s about this...
Cheers,
Chuck Beck
-Original Message-----
Subject: Re: OT: Syntax for if/then statement
On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 11:22:20 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>Our new editor wants to add the word "and" to such statements - if
>, AND then . Both I and the other writer
&
But if you're asked for supporting facts, you'll print out all these
e-mails and hand them to your "editor", right? ;-)
On 6/29/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
LOL! This list makes my day. Believe you me, I would like to be blunt as
some of you were in your emails (the response
At 10:22 AM 6/29/2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Our new editor wants to add the word "and" to such
statements - if , AND then . Both I and the other
writer disagree with the editor on this one - it should be just if/then -
no "and."
Tammy,
I think your editor is overreacting to the use of "the
At 10:22 AM 6/29/2006, Tammy.VanBoening at jeppesen.com wrote:
>Our new editor wants to add the word "and" to such
>statements - if , AND then . Both I and the other
>writer disagree with the editor on this one - it should be just if/then -
>no "and."
Tammy,
I think your editor is overreacting to
Donald, Christine, Jeremy, et. al.
LOL! This list makes my day. Believe you me, I would like to be blunt as
some of you were in your emails (the responses were hysterical!), but I
can summarize the responses (in a politically correct format, mind you!)
and go from there.
Thanks for all of the
At 11:22 -0600 29/6/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Our new editor wants to add the word "and" to such statements - if blah>, AND then . Both I and the other writer disagree with the
>editor on this one - it should be just if/then - no "and."
Boy are you going to have fun with your new editor.
If
I think you need to screen for editors better. I'm not a grammarian by
any stretch of the imagination, but I certainly know you don't use a
coordinating conjunction to string together dependent clauses in that
manner.
If you want icecream, and then you buy some.
Makes absolutely no sense. Time t
On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 11:22:20 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>Our new editor wants to add the word "and" to such statements -
>if , AND then . Both I and the other
>writer disagree with the editor on this one - it should be just
>if/then - no "and."
Yikes. You don't have to look for specific
On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 11:22:20 -0600, Tammy.VanBoening at jeppesen.com
wrote:
>Our new editor wants to add the word "and" to such statements -
>if , AND then . Both I and the other
>writer disagree with the editor on this one - it should be just
>if/then - no "and."
Yikes. You don't have to lo
All,
I am hoping the fellow writers on this list can provide some information
for this request. Another writer here at Jeppesen and I have always used
the following syntax for a conditional/causal statement: If ,
then . We have a new editor that just joined who is in the
process of defining ou
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