RE: Source Control for Frame
Even though the files are binary and you can't do diffs, the other benefits of a good version control system are well worth it. - You can always go back to a previous version, whether it's the version from yesterday or last quarter's release. - Archiving is simple with tags. - You always know who the last person to work on a file was. - File locking for binary files makes it very difficult to step on each other's work. - It is impossible to delete something from the repository, this means it is extremely difficult for someone to permanently mess up a document. (You can delete stuff from the current version but it still exists in the older versions.) - Since each person has their own local working copy of files, you rarely have network issues and absolute path problems can be minimized. - Provided you're update/commit (check-out/check-in) policies are followed, you always know where the latest version of any doc is. - If you move to structured Frame and XML, you can do diffs as well as branching and merging. We use Subversion with TortoiseSVN. Terminology and specific benefits may be different for other systems. Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 3:36 PM To: Donald M Rinderknecht; Flato, Gillian Cc: Framers List Subject: Re: Source Control for Frame At 1:53 PM -0600 12/9/08, Donald M Rinderknecht wrote: Hi Gillian, Other than the diff report (which I assume provides more details than just a time/date stamp) is SVN useful? I've been wanting some centralized document management for our FrameMaker (and other) files for a long time. We have several folks that author materials, sometimes in teams. I'd like to have check in/check out and versioning at the very least. It would be really cool to be able to metatag content and search for it also. Folks have mentioned going to MIF files or XML. Wouldn't those options add steps to the workflow? I assume they (MIF or XML) would affect the workflow in a similar fashion. Also, going to XML would require structure (I assume) so I don't think we're ready for that. We've started to use structure in some docs, but I haven't had time to implement that broadly. What is PDM? Thanks, don. Don Rinderknecht -- 405.325.2805 Meteorologist Instructor/Developer Warning Decision Training Branch, Norman, OK http://www.wdtb.noaa.gov If you are working with a team that may be assigned files that others are working on, the locking capability is nice. It prevents others from checking out the file you are working on. Other than having that and a a date time stamp version, there isn't a lot that any source control system can add for Frame since the primary files are binary. Scott ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/mike.feimster%40acst echnologies.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Source Control for Frame
I agree with Mike. We use CVS with our FrameMaker files. Although it is a bit annoying that FrameMaker thinks it's changed when it often hasn't, and CVS can't tell the difference, the source control system is still extremely useful for all the reasons that Mike gave below. We also find the check-in comments are good for figuring out what change was made at what time, and why. Fei Min Fei Min Lorente Senior Technical Communicator Medical Division ON Semiconductor [EMAIL PROTECTED] +1 519 884 9696 ext 2297 | office +1 519 831 4931 | mobile +1 519 884 0228 | fax http://www.onsemi.com Mike Feimster [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/10/2008 09:01 AM To [EMAIL PROTECTED], Donald M Rinderknecht [EMAIL PROTECTED], Flato, Gillian [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc Framers List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject RE: Source Control for Frame Even though the files are binary and you can't do diffs, the other benefits of a good version control system are well worth it. - You can always go back to a previous version, whether it's the version from yesterday or last quarter's release. - Archiving is simple with tags. - You always know who the last person to work on a file was. - File locking for binary files makes it very difficult to step on each other's work. - It is impossible to delete something from the repository, this means it is extremely difficult for someone to permanently mess up a document. (You can delete stuff from the current version but it still exists in the older versions.) - Since each person has their own local working copy of files, you rarely have network issues and absolute path problems can be minimized. - Provided you're update/commit (check-out/check-in) policies are followed, you always know where the latest version of any doc is. - If you move to structured Frame and XML, you can do diffs as well as branching and merging. We use Subversion with TortoiseSVN. Terminology and specific benefits may be different for other systems. Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 3:36 PM To: Donald M Rinderknecht; Flato, Gillian Cc: Framers List Subject: Re: Source Control for Frame At 1:53 PM -0600 12/9/08, Donald M Rinderknecht wrote: Hi Gillian, Other than the diff report (which I assume provides more details than just a time/date stamp) is SVN useful? I've been wanting some centralized document management for our FrameMaker (and other) files for a long time. We have several folks that author materials, sometimes in teams. I'd like to have check in/check out and versioning at the very least. It would be really cool to be able to metatag content and search for it also. Folks have mentioned going to MIF files or XML. Wouldn't those options add steps to the workflow? I assume they (MIF or XML) would affect the workflow in a similar fashion. Also, going to XML would require structure (I assume) so I don't think we're ready for that. We've started to use structure in some docs, but I haven't had time to implement that broadly. What is PDM? Thanks, don. Don Rinderknecht -- 405.325.2805 Meteorologist Instructor/Developer Warning Decision Training Branch, Norman, OK http://www.wdtb.noaa.gov If you are working with a team that may be assigned files that others are working on, the locking capability is nice. It prevents others from checking out the file you are working on. Other than having that and a a date time stamp version, there isn't a lot that any source control system can add for Frame since the primary files are binary. Scott ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/mike.feimster%40acst echnologies.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/feimin_lorente%40amis.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Source Control for Frame
I concur with Mike and Fei Min. In fact, I've been working with checked in Framemaker files for 15+ years. So I'm shocked when people don't use source control. Wy back in ancient times we used RCS to check in our files which not many people use today. I've used Perforce, Clearcase, CVS, and now SVN. They all work just fine. I'd add to Mike's list: - Through check in comments you can keep track of what was done on a file. Really good if you do regular production or template updates. - Tagging of changes with bug numbers (SVN has a nice interface to JIRA). - Ability to recover old versions of the documentation if necessary. You can do some labeling or branching of doc files if necessary. Though, branching I don't recommend except in some special cases. - Incorporate document production directly into the product build. Framemaker and individual image files are all checked in as is. We don't check-in the individual files that make up ePublisher projects. We zip those projects (just the source not the distribution) and check in the .zip. They of course, do not change as often as the Framemaker source. If you want to diff two Framemaker versions. Check out the latest version and open an older version from your source control, then use Frame diff. Works fine. Mary -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:framers- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 6:18 AM To: Mike Feimster Cc: Framers List; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Source Control for Frame I agree with Mike. We use CVS with our FrameMaker files. Although it is a bit annoying that FrameMaker thinks it's changed when it often hasn't, and CVS can't tell the difference, the source control system is still extremely useful for all the reasons that Mike gave below. We also find the check-in comments are good for figuring out what change was made at what time, and why. Fei Min Fei Min Lorente Senior Technical Communicator Medical Division ON Semiconductor [EMAIL PROTECTED] +1 519 884 9696 ext 2297 | office +1 519 831 4931 | mobile +1 519 884 0228 | fax http://www.onsemi.com Mike Feimster [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/10/2008 09:01 AM To [EMAIL PROTECTED], Donald M Rinderknecht [EMAIL PROTECTED], Flato, Gillian [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc Framers List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject RE: Source Control for Frame Even though the files are binary and you can't do diffs, the other benefits of a good version control system are well worth it. - You can always go back to a previous version, whether it's the version from yesterday or last quarter's release. - Archiving is simple with tags. - You always know who the last person to work on a file was. - File locking for binary files makes it very difficult to step on each other's work. - It is impossible to delete something from the repository, this means it is extremely difficult for someone to permanently mess up a document. (You can delete stuff from the current version but it still exists in the older versions.) - Since each person has their own local working copy of files, you rarely have network issues and absolute path problems can be minimized. - Provided you're update/commit (check-out/check-in) policies are followed, you always know where the latest version of any doc is. - If you move to structured Frame and XML, you can do diffs as well as branching and merging. We use Subversion with TortoiseSVN. Terminology and specific benefits may be different for other systems. Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 3:36 PM To: Donald M Rinderknecht; Flato, Gillian Cc: Framers List Subject: Re: Source Control for Frame At 1:53 PM -0600 12/9/08, Donald M Rinderknecht wrote: Hi Gillian, Other than the diff report (which I assume provides more details than just a time/date stamp) is SVN useful? I've been wanting some centralized document management for our FrameMaker (and other) files for a long time. We have several folks that author materials, sometimes in teams. I'd like to have check in/check out and versioning at the very least. It would be really cool to be able to metatag content and search for it also. Folks have mentioned going to MIF files or XML. Wouldn't those options add steps to the workflow? I assume they (MIF or XML) would affect the workflow in a similar fashion. Also, going to XML would require structure (I assume) so I don't think we're ready for that. We've started to use structure in some docs, but I haven't had time to implement that broadly. What is PDM? Thanks, don. Don Rinderknecht -- 405.325.2805 Meteorologist Instructor/Developer Warning Decision Training Branch, Norman, OK http
RE: Source Control for Frame
Mike Feimster wrote: Even though the files are binary and you can't do diffs, the other benefits of a good version control system are well worth it. - If you move to structured Frame and XML, you can do diffs as well as branching and merging. Ack! Don't do that. The line-based diff used by CVS, Subversion, etc., is NOT smart enough to accurately diff XML; to do diffs, branches, and merges safely, you'd need a diff program that understands XML structures. MIF, which is what everyone thinks of after learning that XML won't work, is even worse: Tiny changes in a document become ENORMOUS changes in the MIF file. -Andrew === Andrew Warren - [EMAIL PROTECTED] === Synaptics, Inc - Santa Clara, CA ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Source Control for Frame
Hi Gillian, Other than the diff report (which I assume provides more details than just a time/date stamp) is SVN useful? I've been wanting some centralized document management for our FrameMaker (and other) files for a long time. We have several folks that author materials, sometimes in teams. I'd like to have check in/check out and versioning at the very least. It would be really cool to be able to metatag content and search for it also. Folks have mentioned going to MIF files or XML. Wouldn't those options add steps to the workflow? I assume they (MIF or XML) would affect the workflow in a similar fashion. Also, going to XML would require structure (I assume) so I don't think we're ready for that. We've started to use structure in some docs, but I haven't had time to implement that broadly. What is PDM? Thanks, don. Don Rinderknecht -- 405.325.2805 Meteorologist Instructor/Developer Warning Decision Training Branch, Norman, OK http://www.wdtb.noaa.gov The more they overthink the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the drain. - Cdr Montgomery Scott, Star Trek III Flato, Gillian wrote: Is there any source control out there that works really well with Frame? We have subversion here, but that can only read ASCII files. It stores Frame's proprietary files and graphics, but it can't do a diff report on them. Or at least, is there any source control that can read PDFs and do diff reports on them? Has anyone tried using PDM with Frame? My engineers are planning on implementing that for their DWG files and I could probably use it too. Thank you, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gillian Flato Technical Writer (Software) nanometrics 1550 Buckeye Dr. Milpitas, CA. 95035 (408.545.6316 7 408.232.5911 * [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] .com blocked::mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/donald.m.rinderknecht%40noaa.gov Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Source Control for Frame
On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 13:53:38 -0600, Donald M Rinderknecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Folks have mentioned going to MIF files or XML. Wouldn't those options add steps to the workflow? I assume they (MIF or XML) would affect the workflow in a similar fashion. Also, going to XML would require structure (I assume) so I don't think we're ready for that. We've started to use structure in some docs, but I haven't had time to implement that broadly. We did try using MIF with CVS at one point. In fact, that's why we added MIF as an output format in Mif2Go, since the process of getting MIF that is usable for this purpose is a bit convoluted. (If you just SaveAs MIF to a different directory, Frame kindly updates your paths, making the result unusable in the original context.) This is a Mif2Go freebie, BTW, that works fine in the demo version. However, after a little while, we stopped. Why? Because some of the CVS files, for the *IX.fm files in particular, were ballooning up to huge sizes. It turns out that each time you generate an index, you get different ObjectIDs for everything, and every one of them was a difference. Even with the rest, the MIF file compare provided by CVS was nearly useless, as you had to look at the MIF *code* to see what happened. We're MIF experts, but that was a bit too much to deal with for the purpose intended. Currently, we just make a .zip for all the files in each release, and archive that .zip. If we need to compare, we get out the old and new .fm files, rename one, and do the compare in Frame. But we hardly ever need to do that. For docs, source-control comparisons may be a solution looking for a problem. It sounds good, but really... ;-) That said, if you are just looking for text content comparison, you could SaveAs plain text, and archive *that* in CVS or SVN. Then you'll get it working the way programmers do, which could actually be helpful. -- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.omsys.com/ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Source Control for Frame
At 1:53 PM -0600 12/9/08, Donald M Rinderknecht wrote: Hi Gillian, Other than the diff report (which I assume provides more details than just a time/date stamp) is SVN useful? I've been wanting some centralized document management for our FrameMaker (and other) files for a long time. We have several folks that author materials, sometimes in teams. I'd like to have check in/check out and versioning at the very least. It would be really cool to be able to metatag content and search for it also. Folks have mentioned going to MIF files or XML. Wouldn't those options add steps to the workflow? I assume they (MIF or XML) would affect the workflow in a similar fashion. Also, going to XML would require structure (I assume) so I don't think we're ready for that. We've started to use structure in some docs, but I haven't had time to implement that broadly. What is PDM? Thanks, don. Don Rinderknecht -- 405.325.2805 Meteorologist Instructor/Developer Warning Decision Training Branch, Norman, OK http://www.wdtb.noaa.gov If you are working with a team that may be assigned files that others are working on, the locking capability is nice. It prevents others from checking out the file you are working on. Other than having that and a a date time stamp version, there isn't a lot that any source control system can add for Frame since the primary files are binary. Scott ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Source Control for Frame
I'm not aware of any way to use source control for binary files (FM or otherwise) other than just being able to know if the file has changed (even that may not really be very accurate). And there's no way to do a useful diff of two FM files other than using the Compare utility in FM. This is one of the big advantages of using XML, since the files are text (as long as you use an XML-aware diff tool). You *could* store MIF files in your version control system, but then you'll need to add a MIF round-tripping workflow .. probably not a viable option. Hopefully someone else will have some other ideas. Cheers, ...scott Flato, Gillian wrote: Is there any source control out there that works really well with Frame? We have subversion here, but that can only read ASCII files. It stores Frame's proprietary files and graphics, but it can't do a diff report on them. Or at least, is there any source control that can read PDFs and do diff reports on them? Has anyone tried using PDM with Frame? My engineers are planning on implementing that for their DWG files and I could probably use it too. Thank you, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gillian Flato Technical Writer (Software) nanometrics 1550 Buckeye Dr. Milpitas, CA. 95035 (408.545.6316 7 408.232.5911 * [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] .com blocked::mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Source Control for Frame
When I was at EMC, we used Documentum for source control and it handled binaries just fine. You may, however, find the price tag a bit steep. Is there any source control out there that works really well with Frame? We have subversion here, but that can only read ASCII files. It stores -- John Posada Senior Technical Writer NYMetro STC President 'Half this game is ninety percent mental.' -- Danny Ozark, Philadelphia Phillies manager ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Source Control for Frame
Hi John... By handle binaries .. what did it actually do? Did it do a binary diff on the files and only store the changes or did it store each update as a whole blob? And did it provide you with the actual diffs of the content without running FM? ...scott John Posada wrote: When I was at EMC, we used Documentum for source control and it handled binaries just fine. You may, however, find the price tag a bit steep. Is there any source control out there that works really well with Frame? We have subversion here, but that can only read ASCII files. It stores ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Source Control for Frame
Have you looked at Sourcerer, from Advantica, Inc? Adobe has a Success Story at www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/pdfs/advantica_ss.pdf. --- On Mon, 12/8/08, Scott Prentice [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Scott Prentice [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Source Control for Frame To: John Posada [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Framers List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, December 8, 2008, 1:59 PM Hi John... By handle binaries .. what did it actually do? Did it do a binary diff on the files and only store the changes or did it store each update as a whole blob? And did it provide you with the actual diffs of the content without running FM? ...scott John Posada wrote: When I was at EMC, we used Documentum for source control and it handled binaries just fine. You may, however, find the price tag a bit steep. Is there any source control out there that works really well with Frame? We have subversion here, but that can only read ASCII files. It stores ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dspreadb%40yahoo.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Source Control for Frame
Documentum with FrameLink worked pretty well and we used it in my company for several years. But then FrameLink got discontinued and the last/best version was incompatible with the latest Documentum. We had to revert back to file servers. Some day, we will probably convert to XML, for which there is a lot of industry support. Regards, Micheal O'Laoghaire BSS Line of Product Documentation Comverse Inc. Cambridge, MA. Tel: (617) 273-5414 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Posada Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 2:47 PM To: Scott Prentice Cc: Framers List Subject: Re: Source Control for Frame When I was at EMC, we used Documentum for source control and it handled binaries just fine. You may, however, find the price tag a bit steep. Is there any source control out there that works really well with Frame? We have subversion here, but that can only read ASCII files. It stores -- John Posada Senior Technical Writer NYMetro STC President 'Half this game is ninety percent mental.' -- Danny Ozark, Philadelphia Phillies manager ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/micheal.olaoghaire%4 0comverse.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Source Control for Frame
Sourcerer .. or it's replacement, ABCM, from West Street Consulting (http://www.weststreetconsulting.com/WSC_ABCM.htm), is a great tool for single sourcing with structured FM, but I'm not sure how it relates to source control systems. Cheers, ...scott David Spreadbury wrote: Have you looked at Sourcerer, from Advantica, Inc? Adobe has a Success Story at www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/pdfs/advantica_ss.pdf http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/pdfs/advantica_ss.pdf. --- On *Mon, 12/8/08, Scott Prentice *wrote: From: Scott Prentice Subject: Re: Source Control for Frame To: John Posada Cc: Framers List Date: Monday, December 8, 2008, 1:59 PM Hi John... By handle binaries .. what did it actually do? Did it do a binary diff on the files and only store the changes or did it store each update as a whole blob? And did it provide you with the actual diffs of the content without running FM? ...scott John Posada wrote: When I was at EMC, we used Documentum for source control and it handled binaries just fine. You may, however, find the price tag a bit steep. Is there any source control out there that works really well with Frame? We have subversion here, but that can only read ASCII files. It stores ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
