RE: Way to apply style to * paragraphs

2014-09-24 Thread LGLists 
Ah, yes, got it. Rick also brought this to my attention in a call.

My assumption is that they're not real overrides, but I'm only working in a
copy of files now, and will likely have to repeat my whole process on this
on the real files, as they are currently going through an editing phase. So,
I'm documenting all that I'm doing, so I can repeat it.

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-Original Message-
From: Peter Hirons [mailto:pe...@galley.ie] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 9:56 AM
To: LGLists
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Way to apply style to * paragraphs

The * shows that an override has been made - this may or may not be needed.
If you re-apply the style and discard overrides that change will be lost
forever.

Work on a copy of the file and compare old with new afterwards, or create a
PDF from the whole book and use that as your reference to spot the changes.

---


Peter

On 2014-09-24 16:33, LGLists wrote:
> Hmm, please help me understand more about this problem. How will I 
> lose formatting?
> 
> I think the * styles are the correct ones, just somehow have the * on 
> them.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> 
> ~
> Linda G. Gallagher
> TechCom Plus, LLC
> lindag at techcomplus dot com
> www.techcomplus.com
> 303-450-9076 or 800-500-3144
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: robert.lauris...@gmail.com [mailto:robert.lauris...@gmail.com] 
> On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston
> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 9:31 AM
> To: LGLists; framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: Way to apply style to * paragraphs
> 
> The potential problem is that you'll lose a lot of formatting that's 
> necessary but applied incorrectly.
> 
> On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 7:50 AM, LGLists  wrote:
>> Aha! I'll give that a try.
>> 
>> 
>> ~
>> Linda G. Gallagher
>> TechCom Plus, LLC
>> lindag at techcomplus dot com
>> www.techcomplus.com
>> 303-450-9076 or 800-500-3144
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ____
>> From: Rick Quatro [mailto:r...@rickquatro.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 6:48 PM
>> To: 'LGLists'; 'Post Framers'
>> Subject: RE: Way to apply style to * paragraphs
>> 
>> Hi Linda,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> One thing you can try is to choose File > Import > Formats, leave the 
>> From Document set to Current, and check the Remove Format Overrides
> checkbox.
>> When you click Import, it should remove all paragraph and character 
>> overrides.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Rick
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Rick Quatro
>> 
>> Carmen Publishing Inc.
>> 
>> 585-366-4017
>> 
>> r...@frameexpert.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
>> [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of LGLists
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 6:31 PM
>> To: 'Post Framers'
>> Subject: Way to apply style to * paragraphs
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> FM 12 (unstructured)
>> 
>> Win 7
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I'm working with a large book from a client (66 chapters, 2500+ 
>> pages) that has numerous paragraphs that show an * next to the style
name.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From what I've seen, and of course, I've not looked at every page of 
>> every file, the styles are in paragraph catalog, but apparently are 
>> not applied properly. One of my tasks is to generally clean up the 
>> style usage to make it consistent.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Before doing that cleanup (with plug-ins and scripts), I'd like to 
>> get all the styles properly applied to each paragraph. Does anyone 
>> know of an automated way to do this?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> ~
>> Linda G. Gallagher
>> STC Fellow
>> TechCom Plus, LLC
>> lindag at techcomplus dot com
>> www.techcomplus.com
>> 303-450-9076 or 800-500-3144
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RE: Way to apply style to * paragraphs

2014-09-24 Thread Peter Hirons 
The * shows that an override has been made - this may or may not be 
needed. If you re-apply the style and discard overrides that change will 
be lost forever.


Work on a copy of the file and compare old with new afterwards, or 
create a PDF from the whole book and use that as your reference to spot 
the changes.


---


Peter

On 2014-09-24 16:33, LGLists wrote:

Hmm, please help me understand more about this problem. How will I lose
formatting?

I think the * styles are the correct ones, just somehow have the * on 
them.


Thanks!


~
Linda G. Gallagher
TechCom Plus, LLC
lindag at techcomplus dot com
www.techcomplus.com
303-450-9076 or 800-500-3144




-Original Message-
From: robert.lauris...@gmail.com [mailto:robert.lauris...@gmail.com] On
Behalf Of Robert Lauriston
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 9:31 AM
To: LGLists; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Way to apply style to * paragraphs

The potential problem is that you'll lose a lot of formatting that's
necessary but applied incorrectly.

On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 7:50 AM, LGLists  wrote:

Aha! I'll give that a try.


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TechCom Plus, LLC
lindag at techcomplus dot com
www.techcomplus.com
303-450-9076 or 800-500-3144





From: Rick Quatro [mailto:r...@rickquatro.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 6:48 PM
To: 'LGLists'; 'Post Framers'
Subject: RE: Way to apply style to * paragraphs

Hi Linda,



One thing you can try is to choose File > Import > Formats, leave the
From Document set to Current, and check the Remove Format Overrides

checkbox.

When you click Import, it should remove all paragraph and character
overrides.



Rick



Rick Quatro

Carmen Publishing Inc.

585-366-4017

r...@frameexpert.com







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Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 6:31 PM
To: 'Post Framers'
Subject: Way to apply style to * paragraphs



FM 12 (unstructured)

Win 7



I'm working with a large book from a client (66 chapters, 2500+ pages)
that has numerous paragraphs that show an * next to the style name.



From what I've seen, and of course, I've not looked at every page of
every file, the styles are in paragraph catalog, but apparently are
not applied properly. One of my tasks is to generally clean up the
style usage to make it consistent.



Before doing that cleanup (with plug-ins and scripts), I'd like to get
all the styles properly applied to each paragraph. Does anyone know of
an automated way to do this?



Thanks!

~
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STC Fellow
TechCom Plus, LLC
lindag at techcomplus dot com
www.techcomplus.com
303-450-9076 or 800-500-3144
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RE: Way to apply style to * paragraphs

2014-09-24 Thread LGLists 
Hmm, please help me understand more about this problem. How will I lose
formatting? 

I think the * styles are the correct ones, just somehow have the * on them. 

Thanks!


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TechCom Plus, LLC
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303-450-9076 or 800-500-3144




-Original Message-
From: robert.lauris...@gmail.com [mailto:robert.lauris...@gmail.com] On
Behalf Of Robert Lauriston
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 9:31 AM
To: LGLists; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Way to apply style to * paragraphs

The potential problem is that you'll lose a lot of formatting that's
necessary but applied incorrectly.

On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 7:50 AM, LGLists  wrote:
> Aha! I'll give that a try.
>
>
> ~
> Linda G. Gallagher
> TechCom Plus, LLC
> lindag at techcomplus dot com
> www.techcomplus.com
> 303-450-9076 or 800-500-3144
> 
>
>
>
> 
> From: Rick Quatro [mailto:r...@rickquatro.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 6:48 PM
> To: 'LGLists'; 'Post Framers'
> Subject: RE: Way to apply style to * paragraphs
>
> Hi Linda,
>
>
>
> One thing you can try is to choose File > Import > Formats, leave the 
> From Document set to Current, and check the Remove Format Overrides
checkbox.
> When you click Import, it should remove all paragraph and character 
> overrides.
>
>
>
> Rick
>
>
>
> Rick Quatro
>
> Carmen Publishing Inc.
>
> 585-366-4017
>
> r...@frameexpert.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of LGLists
> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 6:31 PM
> To: 'Post Framers'
> Subject: Way to apply style to * paragraphs
>
>
>
> FM 12 (unstructured)
>
> Win 7
>
>
>
> I'm working with a large book from a client (66 chapters, 2500+ pages) 
> that has numerous paragraphs that show an * next to the style name.
>
>
>
> From what I've seen, and of course, I've not looked at every page of 
> every file, the styles are in paragraph catalog, but apparently are 
> not applied properly. One of my tasks is to generally clean up the 
> style usage to make it consistent.
>
>
>
> Before doing that cleanup (with plug-ins and scripts), I'd like to get 
> all the styles properly applied to each paragraph. Does anyone know of 
> an automated way to do this?
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
> ~
> Linda G. Gallagher
> STC Fellow
> TechCom Plus, LLC
> lindag at techcomplus dot com
> www.techcomplus.com
> 303-450-9076 or 800-500-3144
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Re: Way to apply style to * paragraphs

2014-09-24 Thread Robert Lauriston 
The potential problem is that you'll lose a lot of formatting that's
necessary but applied incorrectly.

On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 7:50 AM, LGLists  wrote:
> Aha! I'll give that a try.
>
>
> ~
> Linda G. Gallagher
> TechCom Plus, LLC
> lindag at techcomplus dot com
> www.techcomplus.com
> 303-450-9076 or 800-500-3144
> 
>
>
>
> 
> From: Rick Quatro [mailto:r...@rickquatro.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 6:48 PM
> To: 'LGLists'; 'Post Framers'
> Subject: RE: Way to apply style to * paragraphs
>
> Hi Linda,
>
>
>
> One thing you can try is to choose File > Import > Formats, leave the From
> Document set to Current, and check the Remove Format Overrides checkbox.
> When you click Import, it should remove all paragraph and character
> overrides.
>
>
>
> Rick
>
>
>
> Rick Quatro
>
> Carmen Publishing Inc.
>
> 585-366-4017
>
> r...@frameexpert.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of LGLists
> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 6:31 PM
> To: 'Post Framers'
> Subject: Way to apply style to * paragraphs
>
>
>
> FM 12 (unstructured)
>
> Win 7
>
>
>
> I'm working with a large book from a client (66 chapters, 2500+ pages) that
> has numerous paragraphs that show an * next to the style name.
>
>
>
> From what I've seen, and of course, I've not looked at every page of every
> file, the styles are in paragraph catalog, but apparently are not applied
> properly. One of my tasks is to generally clean up the style usage to make
> it consistent.
>
>
>
> Before doing that cleanup (with plug-ins and scripts), I'd like to get all
> the styles properly applied to each paragraph. Does anyone know of an
> automated way to do this?
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
> ~
> Linda G. Gallagher
> STC Fellow
> TechCom Plus, LLC
> lindag at techcomplus dot com
> www.techcomplus.com
> 303-450-9076 or 800-500-3144
> Tutorials, "show me" demos, user guides, help, FrameMaker and WebWorks
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RE: Way to apply style to * paragraphs

2014-09-24 Thread LGLists 
The styles are right, though they may be changing with the cleanup I'll be
doing, but now I just want to all be properly applied. I'm going to try
Rick's suggestion and see if that works.
 
Thanks!
 

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303-450-9076 or 800-500-3144



 

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From: Rebecca Officer [mailto:rebecca.offi...@alliedtelesis.co.nz] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 7:02 PM
To: LGLists; 'Post Framers'
Subject: RE: Way to apply style to * paragraphs



Hi Linda

 

Is the problem that paragraphs don't have the right paragraph tag? For
example, have you got a heap of headings that have been tagged with Body and
then overridden to look like headings? If so, you can use search and replace
to fix at least some of it.

 

1.   Use FM's copy special to copy the correct paragraph tag

2.   use Framemaker's search to find the wrong ones, by searching by its
font settings, then

3.   use the Change "by pasting" option to apply the right paragraph
tag.

 

Hope this helps

Rebecca

 

 

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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of LGLists
Sent: Wednesday, 24 September 2014 10:31 a.m.
To: 'Post Framers'
Subject: Way to apply style to * paragraphs

 

FM 12 (unstructured)

Win 7

 

I'm working with a large book from a client (66 chapters, 2500+ pages) that
has numerous paragraphs that show an * next to the style name. 

 

>From what I've seen, and of course, I've not looked at every page of every
file, the styles are in paragraph catalog, but apparently are not applied
properly. One of my tasks is to generally clean up the style usage to make
it consistent.

 

Before doing that cleanup (with plug-ins and scripts), I'd like to get all
the styles properly applied to each paragraph. Does anyone know of an
automated way to do this?

 

Thanks!

~
Linda G. Gallagher
STC Fellow
TechCom Plus, LLC
lindag at techcomplus dot com
www.techcomplus.com <http://www.techcomplus.com/>  
303-450-9076 or 800-500-3144
Tutorials, "show me" demos, user guides, help, FrameMaker and WebWorks
ePublisher templates


 

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RE: Way to apply style to * paragraphs

2014-09-24 Thread LGLists 
Aha! I'll give that a try.
 

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TechCom Plus, LLC
lindag at techcomplus dot com
 <http://www.techcomplus.com/> www.techcomplus.com 
303-450-9076 or 800-500-3144



 

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From: Rick Quatro [mailto:r...@rickquatro.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 6:48 PM
To: 'LGLists'; 'Post Framers'
Subject: RE: Way to apply style to * paragraphs



Hi Linda,

 

One thing you can try is to choose File > Import > Formats, leave the From
Document set to Current, and check the Remove Format Overrides checkbox.
When you click Import, it should remove all paragraph and character
overrides.

 

Rick

 

Rick Quatro

Carmen Publishing Inc.

585-366-4017

r...@frameexpert.com

 

 

 

From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of LGLists
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 6:31 PM
To: 'Post Framers'
Subject: Way to apply style to * paragraphs

 

FM 12 (unstructured)

Win 7

 

I'm working with a large book from a client (66 chapters, 2500+ pages) that
has numerous paragraphs that show an * next to the style name. 

 

>From what I've seen, and of course, I've not looked at every page of every
file, the styles are in paragraph catalog, but apparently are not applied
properly. One of my tasks is to generally clean up the style usage to make
it consistent.

 

Before doing that cleanup (with plug-ins and scripts), I'd like to get all
the styles properly applied to each paragraph. Does anyone know of an
automated way to do this?

 

Thanks!

~
Linda G. Gallagher
STC Fellow
TechCom Plus, LLC
lindag at techcomplus dot com
www.techcomplus.com <http://www.techcomplus.com/>  
303-450-9076 or 800-500-3144
Tutorials, "show me" demos, user guides, help, FrameMaker and WebWorks
ePublisher templates


 

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RE: Way to apply style to * paragraphs

2014-09-23 Thread Rebecca Officer 
Hi Linda

Is the problem that paragraphs don't have the right paragraph tag? For example, 
have you got a heap of headings that have been tagged with Body and then 
overridden to look like headings? If so, you can use search and replace to fix 
at least some of it.


1.   Use FM's copy special to copy the correct paragraph tag

2.   use Framemaker's search to find the wrong ones, by searching by its 
font settings, then

3.   use the Change "by pasting" option to apply the right paragraph tag.

Hope this helps
Rebecca


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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of LGLists
Sent: Wednesday, 24 September 2014 10:31 a.m.
To: 'Post Framers'
Subject: Way to apply style to * paragraphs

FM 12 (unstructured)
Win 7

I'm working with a large book from a client (66 chapters, 2500+ pages) that has 
numerous paragraphs that show an * next to the style name.

>From what I've seen, and of course, I've not looked at every page of every 
>file, the styles are in paragraph catalog, but apparently are not applied 
>properly. One of my tasks is to generally clean up the style usage to make it 
>consistent.

Before doing that cleanup (with plug-ins and scripts), I'd like to get all the 
styles properly applied to each paragraph. Does anyone know of an automated way 
to do this?

Thanks!

~
Linda G. Gallagher
STC Fellow
TechCom Plus, LLC
lindag at techcomplus dot com
www.techcomplus.com
303-450-9076 or 800-500-3144
Tutorials, "show me" demos, user guides, help, FrameMaker and WebWorks 
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Re: Way to apply style to * paragraphs

2014-09-23 Thread Ted Steinberg 
Thanks, Rick, I wondered what that thing (current) was good for.

Hurray,

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On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 6:47 PM, Rick Quatro  wrote:

> Hi Linda,
>
>
>
> One thing you can try is to choose File > Import > Formats, leave the From
> Document set to Current, and check the Remove Format Overrides checkbox.
> When you click Import, it should remove all paragraph and character
> overrides.
>
>
>
> Rick
>
>
>
> Rick Quatro
>
> Carmen Publishing Inc.
>
> 585-366-4017
>
> r...@frameexpert.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:
> framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] *On Behalf Of *LGLists
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 23, 2014 6:31 PM
> *To:* 'Post Framers'
> *Subject:* Way to apply style to * paragraphs
>
>
>
> FM 12 (unstructured)
>
> Win 7
>
>
>
> I'm working with a large book from a client (66 chapters, 2500+ pages)
> that has numerous paragraphs that show an * next to the style name.
>
>
>
> From what I've seen, and of course, I've not looked at every page of every
> file, the styles are in paragraph catalog, but apparently are not applied
> properly. One of my tasks is to generally clean up the style usage to make
> it consistent.
>
>
>
> Before doing that cleanup (with plug-ins and scripts), I'd like to get all
> the styles properly applied to each paragraph. Does anyone know of an
> automated way to do this?
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
> ~
> Linda G. Gallagher
> STC Fellow
> TechCom Plus, LLC
> lindag at techcomplus dot com
> www.techcomplus.com
> 303-450-9076 or 800-500-3144
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RE: Way to apply style to * paragraphs

2014-09-23 Thread Rick Quatro 
Hi Linda,

 

One thing you can try is to choose File > Import > Formats, leave the From
Document set to Current, and check the Remove Format Overrides checkbox.
When you click Import, it should remove all paragraph and character
overrides.

 

Rick

 

Rick Quatro

Carmen Publishing Inc.

585-366-4017

r...@frameexpert.com

 

 

 

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Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 6:31 PM
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Subject: Way to apply style to * paragraphs

 

FM 12 (unstructured)

Win 7

 

I'm working with a large book from a client (66 chapters, 2500+ pages) that
has numerous paragraphs that show an * next to the style name. 

 

>From what I've seen, and of course, I've not looked at every page of every
file, the styles are in paragraph catalog, but apparently are not applied
properly. One of my tasks is to generally clean up the style usage to make
it consistent.

 

Before doing that cleanup (with plug-ins and scripts), I'd like to get all
the styles properly applied to each paragraph. Does anyone know of an
automated way to do this?

 

Thanks!

~
Linda G. Gallagher
STC Fellow
TechCom Plus, LLC
lindag at techcomplus dot com
www.techcomplus.com   
303-450-9076 or 800-500-3144
Tutorials, "show me" demos, user guides, help, FrameMaker and WebWorks
ePublisher templates


 

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