I can do that with the TCS versions of Frame, so I except it is the same
with the standalone subscription.
However, I don't think you can install an earlier version than when you
started your subscription, but I'm not sure.
David Creamer
IDEAS Training
It used to be that you c
It used to be that you could have more than one version of a program available
in the Creative Cloud subscription. I would expect that to be the same with
FrameMaker? Can someone confirm that?
Craig
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Subscriptions include upgrades, but you are not required to upgrade if you
don't want to.
I subscribe to the Technical Communication Suite, which includes FrameMaker.
I usually have to wait a month or two before the Suite is updated to include
a new version of the software programs in the Suite. (
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If you buy the $360-a-year subscription, are upgrades included? If
not, how much are they?
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Two good points made in the last couple of emails on this topic:
Adobe charges too much for FM upgrades.
July would be the logical time to expect a new release.
Adobe could surprise us all with an upgrade price that is reasonable for a
change.
Craig
BTW: If I had to pick and old version of
I don't think the issue in this conversation is about Adobe abandoning
FM, but that the corporate model Adobe chooses to use has effectively
driven a lot of us old timers out the door, into the arms of its
competitors. Yes, there have been a bunch of new features and added
support for functions
I've been hearing rumors of Adobe's abandonment of Frame for years, if not
decades. The timing of these rumors is almost as regular as an atomic
clock...
Abandonment hasn't happened yet. Oddly, I find the rumors tend to peak
before Adobe announces a new version. This list, or any public list, is
n email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
> Subject: Re: [Framers] Final note about Adobe Licensing
>
> The last solid version was FrameMaker 8. It had Unicode support but
> not the bizarre and buggy UI layer Adobe added in FM9.
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Same here.
Z
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From: Framers On
Behalf Of Eichelberger, Mark (King of Prussia)
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 8:34 AM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
Subject: Re: [Framers] Final note about Adobe Licensing
Jack,
I just have not gotten
on
behalf of Robert Lauriston
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 12:45 PM
To: Ken Poshedly; An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
Subject: Re: [Framers] Final note about Adobe Licensing
The last solid version was FrameMaker 8. It had Unicode support but
not the bizarre and buggy UI la
(oh, wait a minute, that's all we had because
> mouse-pointers hadn't yet made the scene). Though it has a rockier history
> than FM, it is still used, but just barely. There's a great write-up about
> it on Wikipedia. (The FM Wikipedia write-up is not nearly as extensive.)
The last solid version was FrameMaker 8. It had Unicode support but
not the bizarre and buggy UI layer Adobe added in FM9.
It still seems strange to me that Adobe used a sui generis UI layer
for a Windows-only application. Maybe it was cheaper to do that than
to map the core code that started in U
.
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Hi, Ken:
Thanks for the brief trip through memory lane.
As to InDesign as a replacement for FrameMaker for technical publications, IMO
one major obstacle to this is that designers, who are its
d is a mere shadow
> of its once glorious self before the Corel purchase.
>
> I wonder how Corel supports Corel Ventura (still available but supposedly
> last updated in 2002).
>
>
>
> From: "Harding, Dan"
> To: An email list for people using Adobe Fra
AM
To: 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.'
Subject: Re: [Framers] Final note about Adobe Licensing
Mark,
Now that you are a couple of years into it, it would be good to hear what your
satisfaction is with Flare versus FrameMaker. Thanks.
Rick
Rick Quatro
Carmen
Some of us use both; different clients have different requirements.
Grant
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ckdeland/
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Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 11:34 AM
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Jack,
I just have not
Adobe FrameMaker software.'
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And now I wonder how many closet Flare users are on this list.
Jack DeLand • Principal
Adam Charles Consulting, LLC
734 972 3026
https://www.linkedin.com/in/jackdeland/
http://www.adamcharlescons
, June 26, 2018 11:25 AM
To: 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.'
Subject: Re: [Framers] Final note about Adobe Licensing
Mark,
Now that you are a couple of years into it, it would be good to hear what your
satisfaction is with Flare versus FrameMaker. Thanks.
, Mark (King of Prussia)
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 10:55 AM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
Subject: Re: [Framers] Final note about Adobe Licensing
All of these posts regarding Adobe's poor support/abandonment of FM are one of
the reasons why my company decid
All of these posts regarding Adobe's poor support/abandonment of FM are one of
the reasons why my company decided to focus on another tool and migrate away
from FM. All of the technical publications staff (including me) are now using
Madcap Flare and we have just completed a 2 year migration of
to
the attitudes coming from within Adobe... a begrudged necessary evil that no
one there really wants the hassles of dealing with, hoping that it will just
die and go away.
-Dan
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From: Framers On
Behalf Of Shmuel Wolfson
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 3:55 AM
To: Pete
just
die and go away.
-Dan
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Behalf Of Shmuel Wolfson
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 3:55 AM
To: Peter Gold ; Framers - frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] Final note about Adobe Licensing
Why does everyone feel that Adobe is abandoning FrameMak
Why does everyone feel that Adobe is abandoning FrameMaker? In the
latest version they redid the menus and added a shortcut to finding menu
items. They also claim to have fixed some long-standing bugs.
My only gripe is the high price for upgrades. But they do seem to be
working on the program.
These recent threads about licensing and related Adobe corporate-level
failings, and the associated sense of abandonment that's been voiced by
long-long-long-time FrameMaker users who represent a community of talented
technical authors and publishers prompt me to think "Is there any next step
that
that at all.
Regards,
Z
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Behalf Of Alan Litchfield
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2018 4:31 PM
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Thanks for the update Tammy.
It is pretty
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What a shame. I remember when the Adobe folks were the good guys.
Tammy, please keep us updated on your Flare experience
What a shame. I remember when the Adobe folks were the good guys.
Tammy, please keep us updated on your Flare experience.
— Donna Reynolds
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many thoughts of
> commiseration I received. I just hope some of this good karma can rub off
> on
> you!!
>
> TGIF!!!
>
> TVB
>
>
>
> Tammy Van Boening
> Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com
> www.spectrumwritingllc.com
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> -Original
Hi, Tammy and all Framers:
In response to a comment I posted on this list a few weeks ago I received a
couple of responses from alleged Adobe folks, both private and public.
One in particular seemed to make the best and clearest statement of the
problem. It was so innocent and naïve I won't repea
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I agree that this is a situation that should have never happened. Because of
some s
Tammy, this is a licensing issue that is happening worldwide. What they
have is discovery software to see who's doing what and they can charge you
now for holding onto that license and attempting to use the software. I
have a friend who is a software contract negotiator. She's explained this
to me
I agree that this is a situation that should have never happened. Because of
some software pirates, Adobe puts its loyal customers through grief with all
of the activation and licensing issues. Tammy is one of the many long-time
Adobe customers that have loudly evangelized for Adobe products over t
Thanks for the update Tammy.
It is pretty much as I predicted and as a matter of interest, this week I also
got confirmation that my licensing issue will remain unaddressed by Adobe.
These days, FM makes a very small proportion of my time and I am thinking about
cancelling my monthly sub. It wi
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