Re: [Framers] Grammar question

2020-07-17 Thread Art Campbell
B. Remove the covers from the supervisor and all nodes. Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply.

Re: [Framers] Grammar question

2020-07-17 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain
Interesting to read the responses so far! To me, the instructions are ambiguous in one regard - and people are interpreting things differently from me. At first blush, I read it as "remove the covers from the supervisor" and "remove the covers from the nodes". And, NOT as "remove the covers

Re: [Framers] Grammar question

2020-07-16 Thread Lynne A. Price
Doug,    Do both the nodes and the supervisor have covers? Is it only covers that must be removed or nodes as well? Both sentences are ambiguous, but the most likely meanings are that A. instructs the reader to remove all the covers from the supervisor and from the nodes. B. instructs the

Re: [Framers] Grammar question

2020-04-21 Thread Doug
That was my thinking as well...thanks all. Doug On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 2:11 PM Craig Ede wrote: > My wife the linguist says that makes sense because the sound of the > phoneme drives the choice of the article preceding it. > > Craig > > > From: Framers > on

Re: [Framers] Grammar question

2020-04-21 Thread Craig Ede
My wife the linguist says that makes sense because the sound of the phoneme drives the choice of the article preceding it. Craig From: Framers on behalf of Robert Lauriston I follow the Chicago Manual of Style guidelines, which say go by how it's

Re: [Framers] Grammar question

2020-04-21 Thread Harding, Dan
FrameMaker software. Subject: Re: [Framers] Grammar question I follow the Chicago Manual of Style guidelines, which say go by how it's pronounced. On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 8:26 AM Doug wrote: > > MCN is an abbreviation for Multi-Channel Network. When referring to > only one of them, whic

Re: [Framers] Grammar question

2020-04-21 Thread Robert Lauriston
I follow the Chicago Manual of Style guidelines, which say go by how it's pronounced. On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 8:26 AM Doug wrote: > > MCN is an abbreviation for Multi-Channel Network. When referring to only > one of them, which of the following do you use: > > a MCN > an MCN

Re: [Framers] Grammar question

2020-04-21 Thread Simon BUCH
That all depends on your "style protocol", and also the region in which you are located. Some companies insist that abbreviations follow sound rules, where if the first letter sound is vowel, then 'an' is used.  But then they use it inconsistently. For example: I would say "a LWT

Re: [Framers] Grammar question

2020-04-21 Thread Lin Sims
I would think "an", since M starts with a vowel sound, unless you expect people to say it in full each time they come across it. I really hate situations like that. On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 11:26 AM Doug wrote: > MCN is an abbreviation for Multi-Channel Network. When referring to only > one of

Re: [Framers] Grammar Question

2019-04-29 Thread Doug
I think I'll go with Lin's wording. Thanks everyone! Doug On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 9:06 AM Lin Sims wrote: > > > This cable connects to devices that are RS-485 enabled. > ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to

Re: [Framers] Grammar Question

2019-04-29 Thread Dennis Brunnenmeyer
Actually, all of you are wrong. This cable can likely connect to a lot of things, including RS-485 devices if it has the usual RJ-45 Ethernet plug on the business end. If so, it can easily be connected to other devices, such as standard Ethernet switches and routers, but it would not function

Re: [Framers] Grammar Question

2019-04-29 Thread Robert Lauriston
Texas Instruments uses "RS-485-compliant" in their docs, e.g.: http://www.ti.com/lit/an/slla272c/slla272c.pdf ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at

Re: [Framers] Grammar Question

2019-04-29 Thread quills
I would not use the second hyphen. It is questionable at best. > On Apr 29, 2019, at 08:06, Lin Sims wrote: > > This cable connects to devices that are RS-485 enabled. > >> On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 7:57 AM Doug wrote: >> >> In the sentence below regarding RS-485 technology, I really don't

Re: [Framers] Grammar Question

2019-04-29 Thread Robert Lauriston
There's nothing wrong with "RS-485-compliant." The first hyphen is part of the noun "RS-485," the second forms a phrasal adjective. This isn't really grammar, it's an arbitrary punctuation rule that varies from one style guide to another. Some might use en dashes instead of hyphens. Are you sure

Re: [Framers] Grammar Question

2019-04-29 Thread Lin Sims
You're remembering it wrong. If it were all in front of the word devices, you'd need the hyphen. If you're still not comfortable, you could try: This cable connects to devices that are compliant with the RS-485 standard. It's a bit longer, but it's crystal clear. :) On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 1:36

Re: [Framers] Grammar Question

2019-04-29 Thread Doug
I can accept compliant, but since complaint modifies RS-485 (doesn't it?) then a hyphen is required linking the two. And we're back to square one. Or am I remembering my grammar wrong? On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 10:43 AM Lin Sims wrote: > I didn't look to see if RS-485 was a standard. If it is,

Re: [Framers] Grammar Question

2019-04-29 Thread Lin Sims
I didn't look to see if RS-485 was a standard. If it is, then "compliant" is definitely a better choice. On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 10:39 AM Art Campbell wrote: > Second Lin's wording, but I would use "compliant" instead of "enabled" > because "enabled" in this context is over the line into

Re: [Framers] Grammar Question

2019-04-29 Thread Art Campbell
Second Lin's wording, but I would use "compliant" instead of "enabled" because "enabled" in this context is over the line into jargon. Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson

Re: [Framers] Grammar Question

2019-04-29 Thread Lin Sims
This cable connects to devices that are RS-485 enabled. On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 7:57 AM Doug wrote: > In the sentence below regarding RS-485 technology, I really don't want to > use consecutive hyphens. Can you suggest a decent alternative? Thanks in > advance. > > This cable connects to