RE: Dictionaries

2013-10-23 Thread Fred Ridder
Good to know, Mike. Thanks.

So far I've only used one version that uses the new location, and since we only 
make limited use of user dictionaries in our FrameMaker docs I hadn't noticed 
the change. But now I know to watch out if/when I upgrade to a newer version.

-Fred Ridder

> Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 21:43:56 -0500
> From: i...@mikewickham.com
> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: Dictionaries
> 
> FrameMaker changed dictionary locations as of version 9. It now saves 
> them at the common location of 
> C:\Users\\AppData\LocalLow\Adobe\Linguistics\Dictionaries\FMUserDictionary\all\added.txt.
>  
> I'm using FM 10, so assume FM 11 is the same. There is no version 
> structure showing on my computer. I don't believe FM 10 overwrote my FM9 
> dictionary way back when, but can't remember. If FM 11 is doing it, it 
> needs to be reported as a bug.
> 
> As a side note, even though the new dictionary is a .txt file, care is 
> necessary if you try to edit it directly. I messed mine up one time, 
> when I edited the file and the editor saved it with carriage return and 
> linefeed (CR LF) line endings. This caused failure as FM expects this 
> file to have LFs only! I was able to use Notepad++ to find the problem 
> and fix it.
> 
> There was a need to convert dictionaries from FM8 to FM9 when the 
> location/format change happened. Instructions for doing so are at the 
> bottom of this page (as well as the warning about editing the file 
> directly):
> http://blogs.adobe.com/techcomm/2009/12/dictionaries_in_fm9.html
> 
> Mike Wickham
> 
> On 10/22/2013 7:09 PM, Fred Ridder wrote:
> > Every FrameMaker installer I have used (from 5.5.6 through 9 so far) 
> > has always installed all the files in a separate, version-specific 
> > folder within the Program Files folder. I have never had a problem 
> > having two or even three different versions installed simultaneously 
> > using the default installs. 

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Re: Dictionaries

2013-10-23 Thread Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp
Well, since FM9 default location for dictionaries is 
C:\Users\\AppData\LocalLow\Adobe\Linguistics\UserDictionaries.
This is used for FM9, FM10 and FM11, without specifying the FM version.

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Op 23 okt. 2013, om 02:09 heeft Fred Ridder  het volgende 
geschreven:

> Every FrameMaker installer I have used (from 5.5.6 through 9 so far) has 
> always installed all the files in a separate, version-specific folder within 
> the Program Files folder. I have never had a problem having two or even three 
> different versions installed simultaneously using the default installs. 
> 
> Did you uninstall FM9 before installing FM11? Were your user directories 
> saved within the FM9 install directory? If so, the install directory and any 
> custom files within it should have remained exactly where they were as its 
> own branch of your directory tree. Did you use a non-default installation 
> directory for either the FM9 or FM11 installation? I can only see a potential 
> problem if you used the same directory name for both installations and did 
> not use non-default names for your user dictionaries. 
> 
> Are you sure the dictionaries are really gone, and not just in a different 
> directory than where the newly installed FM11 expects to find them?
> 
> -Fred Ridder
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Re: Dictionaries

2013-10-22 Thread Mike Wickham
FrameMaker changed dictionary locations as of version 9. It now saves 
them at the common location of 
C:\Users\\AppData\LocalLow\Adobe\Linguistics\Dictionaries\FMUserDictionary\all\added.txt. 
I'm using FM 10, so assume FM 11 is the same. There is no version 
structure showing on my computer. I don't believe FM 10 overwrote my FM9 
dictionary way back when, but can't remember. If FM 11 is doing it, it 
needs to be reported as a bug.


As a side note, even though the new dictionary is a .txt file, care is 
necessary if you try to edit it directly. I messed mine up one time, 
when I edited the file and the editor saved it with carriage return and 
linefeed (CR LF) line endings. This caused failure as FM expects this 
file to have LFs only! I was able to use Notepad++ to find the problem 
and fix it.


There was a need to convert dictionaries from FM8 to FM9 when the 
location/format change happened. Instructions for doing so are at the 
bottom of this page (as well as the warning about editing the file 
directly):

http://blogs.adobe.com/techcomm/2009/12/dictionaries_in_fm9.html

Mike Wickham

On 10/22/2013 7:09 PM, Fred Ridder wrote:
Every FrameMaker installer I have used (from 5.5.6 through 9 so far) 
has always installed all the files in a separate, version-specific 
folder within the Program Files folder. I have never had a problem 
having two or even three different versions installed simultaneously 
using the default installs. 



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RE: Dictionaries

2013-10-22 Thread Fred Ridder
Every FrameMaker installer I have used (from 5.5.6 through 9 so far) has always 
installed all the files in a separate, version-specific folder within the 
Program Files folder. I have never had a problem having two or even three 
different versions installed simultaneously using the default installs. 

Did you uninstall FM9 before installing FM11? Were your user directories saved 
within the FM9 install directory? If so, the install directory and any custom 
files within it should have remained exactly where they were as its own branch 
of your directory tree. Did you use a non-default installation directory for 
either the FM9 or FM11 installation? I can only see a potential problem if you 
used the same directory name for both installations and did not use non-default 
names for your user dictionaries. 

Are you sure the dictionaries are really gone, and not just in a different 
directory than where the newly installed FM11 expects to find them?

-Fred Ridder

From: w...@idtp.eu
Subject: Dictionaries
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 23:46:25 +0200
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com

Hi,
We noticed that installing FM11 overwrites user dictionaries that were created 
in FM9.  I'd expect that a new installation of FM would keep existing 
dictionaries.  Anyone else experienced this?


Vriendelijke groet / Kind regards,
 
Wim Hooghwinkel
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