Text inset strange behaviour, any solution?? [revisited]

2007-01-31 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 22:49 +0100 30/1/07, Michael Zaichenko wrote:

>Set the last paragraph of the source document to Run-In. It will solve the 
>problem.

And indeed it does!

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RE: Text inset strange behaviour, any solution?? [revisited]

2007-01-31 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 22:49 +0100 30/1/07, Michael Zaichenko wrote:

>Set the last paragraph of the source document to Run-In. It will solve the 
>problem.

And indeed it does!

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Text inset strange behaviour, any solution?? [revisited]

2007-01-30 Thread Michael Zaichenko
Set the last paragraph of the source document to Run-In. It will solve the 
problem.
Michael


>From: Steve Rickaby 
>To: framers at FrameUsers.com
>Subject: Text inset strange behaviour, any solution?? [revisited]
>Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 17:49:37 +
>
>Some time ago: At 02:13 -0800 13/3/06, vikram chugh wrote:
>
> >When i import a text inset with the options listed below I get an extra 
>line after importing the text inset. I am sure that my text inset does not 
>have any extra space or lines. How do I prevent from getting this extra 
>line. I have tried using the Ctrl+Space option but to no avail.
> >
> >? Flow to import: Body Page Flow
> >? Formatting of imported flow: Reformat using current
> >document?s formats
> >? Updating of imported flow: Automatic
>
>and at 08:29 -0700 13/3/06, Grant Hogarth wrote:
>
> >Known issue with FM.  Not sure if it is a bug (not working as designed)
> >or not.
> >Workaround:
> >1) Define the smallest paragraph you can (2pt font, 0pt line spacing,
> >0pt above/below...).
> >2) Insert this as a blank para at the top of the referenced flow.
>
>Grant subsequently kindly sent me a demo file, and this fix does indeed 
>work...
>
>...for unstructured FrameMaker. But when applied in structured FrameMaker, 
>it appears not to. We cannot work out why this should be, but in my test 
>file I was careful to prevent the EDD applying a para format to override 
>the para tag described in step 1 above.
>
>Does anyone have any idea why this should be, and/or a possible workaround?
>
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Text inset strange behaviour, any solution?? [revisited]

2007-01-30 Thread Steve Rickaby
Some time ago: At 02:13 -0800 13/3/06, vikram chugh wrote:

>When i import a text inset with the options listed below I get an extra line 
>after importing the text inset. I am sure that my text inset does not have any 
>extra space or lines. How do I prevent from getting this extra line. I have 
>tried using the Ctrl+Space option but to no avail.
>
>? Flow to import: Body Page Flow
>? Formatting of imported flow: Reformat using current
>document?s formats
>? Updating of imported flow: Automatic

and at 08:29 -0700 13/3/06, Grant Hogarth wrote:

>Known issue with FM.  Not sure if it is a bug (not working as designed)
>or not.
>Workaround:
>1) Define the smallest paragraph you can (2pt font, 0pt line spacing,
>0pt above/below...).
>2) Insert this as a blank para at the top of the referenced flow.

Grant subsequently kindly sent me a demo file, and this fix does indeed work...

...for unstructured FrameMaker. But when applied in structured FrameMaker, it 
appears not to. We cannot work out why this should be, but in my test file I 
was careful to prevent the EDD applying a para format to override the para tag 
described in step 1 above.

Does anyone have any idea why this should be, and/or a possible workaround?

-- 
Steve



RE: Text inset strange behaviour, any solution?? [revisited]

2007-01-30 Thread Michael Zaichenko
Set the last paragraph of the source document to Run-In. It will solve the 
problem.

Michael



From: Steve Rickaby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: framers@FrameUsers.com
Subject: Text inset strange behaviour, any solution?? [revisited]
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 17:49:37 +

Some time ago: At 02:13 -0800 13/3/06, vikram chugh wrote:

>When i import a text inset with the options listed below I get an extra 
line after importing the text inset. I am sure that my text inset does not 
have any extra space or lines. How do I prevent from getting this extra 
line. I have tried using the Ctrl+Space option but to no avail.

>
>• Flow to import: Body Page Flow
>• Formatting of imported flow: Reformat using current
>document’s formats
>• Updating of imported flow: Automatic

and at 08:29 -0700 13/3/06, Grant Hogarth wrote:

>Known issue with FM.  Not sure if it is a bug (not working as designed)
>or not.
>Workaround:
>1) Define the smallest paragraph you can (2pt font, 0pt line spacing,
>0pt above/below...).
>2) Insert this as a blank para at the top of the referenced flow.

Grant subsequently kindly sent me a demo file, and this fix does indeed 
work...


...for unstructured FrameMaker. But when applied in structured FrameMaker, 
it appears not to. We cannot work out why this should be, but in my test 
file I was careful to prevent the EDD applying a para format to override 
the para tag described in step 1 above.


Does anyone have any idea why this should be, and/or a possible workaround?

--
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Text inset strange behaviour, any solution?? [revisited]

2007-01-30 Thread Steve Rickaby
Some time ago: At 02:13 -0800 13/3/06, vikram chugh wrote:

>When i import a text inset with the options listed below I get an extra line 
>after importing the text inset. I am sure that my text inset does not have any 
>extra space or lines. How do I prevent from getting this extra line. I have 
>tried using the Ctrl+Space option but to no avail.
>
>• Flow to import: Body Page Flow
>• Formatting of imported flow: Reformat using current
>document’s formats
>• Updating of imported flow: Automatic

and at 08:29 -0700 13/3/06, Grant Hogarth wrote:

>Known issue with FM.  Not sure if it is a bug (not working as designed)
>or not.
>Workaround:
>1) Define the smallest paragraph you can (2pt font, 0pt line spacing,
>0pt above/below...).
>2) Insert this as a blank para at the top of the referenced flow.

Grant subsequently kindly sent me a demo file, and this fix does indeed work...

...for unstructured FrameMaker. But when applied in structured FrameMaker, it 
appears not to. We cannot work out why this should be, but in my test file I 
was careful to prevent the EDD applying a para format to override the para tag 
described in step 1 above.

Does anyone have any idea why this should be, and/or a possible workaround?

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Text inset strange behaviour, any solution??

2006-03-24 Thread Steve Rickaby
Hi

I'm tackling the same problem. When you say 'Insert this as a blank para at the 
top of the referenced flow', do you mean in the referenced (imported) document, 
or in the document to which the inset is imported?

At 09:20 -0700 13/3/06, Lorian Gans wrote:
>We use text insets extensively, and find that FM changes the para
>following the inset to the same style as that at the top of the inset,
>so we created a "Hidden" character style and applied it to a body
>paragraph at the top and bottom of each inset. After applying the Hidden
>character style, those extra paras effectively disappear, but it can be
>a real bear to work with.


At 08:29 -0700 13/3/06, Grant Hogarth wrote:
>Known  issue with FM.  Not sure if it is a bug (not working as designed)
>or not.
>Workaround:
>1) Define the smallest paragraph you can (2pt font, 0pt line spacing,
>0pt above/below...).
>2) Insert this as a blank para at the top of the referenced flow.
>
>This should fix the problem.
>
>-Original Message-
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>[mailto:framers-bounces+grant.hogarth=reuters.com at lists.frameusers.com]
>On Behalf Of vikram chugh
>Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 3:13 AM
>To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
>Subject: Text inset strange behaviour, any solution??
>
>Hi Framers,
>When i import a text inset with the options listed below I get an extra
>line after importing the text inset. I am sure that my text inset does
>not have any extra space or lines. How do I prevent from getting this
>extra line. I have tried using the Ctrl+Space option but to no avail.
>Any feedback will not only be greatly appreciated but also will be
>rewarded by my lucky blessings (which actually work) GOD bless :):):)
>
>* Flow to import: Body Page Flow
>* Formatting of imported flow: Reformat using current document's formats
>* Updating of imported flow: Automatic
>
>Regards,
>Vikram
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RE: Text inset strange behaviour, any solution??

2006-03-24 Thread Steve Rickaby
Hi

I'm tackling the same problem. When you say 'Insert this as a blank para at the 
top of the referenced flow', do you mean in the referenced (imported) document, 
or in the document to which the inset is imported?

At 09:20 -0700 13/3/06, Lorian Gans wrote:
>We use text insets extensively, and find that FM changes the para
>following the inset to the same style as that at the top of the inset,
>so we created a "Hidden" character style and applied it to a body
>paragraph at the top and bottom of each inset. After applying the Hidden
>character style, those extra paras effectively disappear, but it can be
>a real bear to work with.


At 08:29 -0700 13/3/06, Grant Hogarth wrote:
>Known  issue with FM.  Not sure if it is a bug (not working as designed)
>or not.
>Workaround:
>1) Define the smallest paragraph you can (2pt font, 0pt line spacing,
>0pt above/below...).
>2) Insert this as a blank para at the top of the referenced flow.
>
>This should fix the problem.
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>On Behalf Of vikram chugh
>Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 3:13 AM
>To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
>Subject: Text inset strange behaviour, any solution??
>
>Hi Framers,
>When i import a text inset with the options listed below I get an extra
>line after importing the text inset. I am sure that my text inset does
>not have any extra space or lines. How do I prevent from getting this
>extra line. I have tried using the Ctrl+Space option but to no avail.
>Any feedback will not only be greatly appreciated but also will be
>rewarded by my lucky blessings (which actually work) GOD bless :):):)
>
>* Flow to import: Body Page Flow
>* Formatting of imported flow: Reformat using current document's formats
>* Updating of imported flow: Automatic
>
>Regards,
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RE: Text inset strange behaviour, any solution??

2006-03-13 Thread Lorian Gans
We use text insets extensively, and find that FM changes the para
following the inset to the same style as that at the top of the inset,
so we created a "Hidden" character style and applied it to a body
paragraph at the top and bottom of each inset. After applying the Hidden
character style, those extra paras effectively disappear, but it can be
a real bear to work with.

hth 


Lorian Gans
Technical Writer
Cougar Mountain Software
(208) 375-4455 ext. 147
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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-Original Message-
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On Behalf Of Grant Hogarth
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 8:29 AM
To: vikram chugh; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Text inset strange behaviour, any solution??

Known issue with FM.  Not sure if it is a bug (not working as designed)
or not.
Workaround:
1) Define the smallest paragraph you can (2pt font, 0pt line spacing,
0pt above/below...).
2) Insert this as a blank para at the top of the referenced flow.

This should fix the problem.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of vikram chugh
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 3:13 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Text inset strange behaviour, any solution??

Hi Framers,
When i import a text inset with the options listed below I get an extra
line after importing the text inset. I am sure that my text inset does
not have any extra space or lines. How do I prevent from getting this
extra line. I have tried using the Ctrl+Space option but to no avail.
Any feedback will not only be greatly appreciated but also will be
rewarded by my lucky blessings (which actually work) GOD bless :):):)

* Flow to import: Body Page Flow
* Formatting of imported flow: Reformat using current document's formats
* Updating of imported flow: Automatic

Regards,
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Text inset strange behaviour, any solution??

2006-03-13 Thread Lorian Gans
We use text insets extensively, and find that FM changes the para
following the inset to the same style as that at the top of the inset,
so we created a "Hidden" character style and applied it to a body
paragraph at the top and bottom of each inset. After applying the Hidden
character style, those extra paras effectively disappear, but it can be
a real bear to work with.

hth 


Lorian Gans
Technical Writer
Cougar Mountain Software
(208) 375-4455 ext. 147
LorianGans at cougarmtn.com
www.cougarmtn.com

-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+loriangans=cougarmtn@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+loriangans=cougarmtn.com at lists.frameusers.com]
On Behalf Of Grant Hogarth
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 8:29 AM
To: vikram chugh; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Text inset strange behaviour, any solution??

Known issue with FM.  Not sure if it is a bug (not working as designed)
or not.
Workaround:
1) Define the smallest paragraph you can (2pt font, 0pt line spacing,
0pt above/below...).
2) Insert this as a blank para at the top of the referenced flow.

This should fix the problem.

-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+grant.hogarth=reuters@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+grant.hogarth=reuters.com at lists.frameusers.com]
On Behalf Of vikram chugh
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 3:13 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Text inset strange behaviour, any solution??

Hi Framers,
When i import a text inset with the options listed below I get an extra
line after importing the text inset. I am sure that my text inset does
not have any extra space or lines. How do I prevent from getting this
extra line. I have tried using the Ctrl+Space option but to no avail.
Any feedback will not only be greatly appreciated but also will be
rewarded by my lucky blessings (which actually work) GOD bless :):):)

* Flow to import: Body Page Flow
* Formatting of imported flow: Reformat using current document's formats
* Updating of imported flow: Automatic

Regards,
Vikram


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Text inset strange behaviour, any solution??

2006-03-13 Thread Grant Hogarth
Known issue with FM.  Not sure if it is a bug (not working as designed)
or not.
Workaround:
1) Define the smallest paragraph you can (2pt font, 0pt line spacing,
0pt above/below...).
2) Insert this as a blank para at the top of the referenced flow.

This should fix the problem.

-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+grant.hogarth=reuters@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+grant.hogarth=reuters.com at lists.frameusers.com]
On Behalf Of vikram chugh
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 3:13 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Text inset strange behaviour, any solution??

Hi Framers,
When i import a text inset with the options listed below I get an extra
line after importing the text inset. I am sure that my text inset does
not have any extra space or lines. How do I prevent from getting this
extra line. I have tried using the Ctrl+Space option but to no avail.
Any feedback will not only be greatly appreciated but also will be
rewarded by my lucky blessings (which actually work) GOD bless :):):)

* Flow to import: Body Page Flow
* Formatting of imported flow: Reformat using current document's formats
* Updating of imported flow: Automatic

Regards,
Vikram


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RE: Text inset strange behaviour, any solution??

2006-03-13 Thread Grant Hogarth
Known issue with FM.  Not sure if it is a bug (not working as designed)
or not.
Workaround:
1) Define the smallest paragraph you can (2pt font, 0pt line spacing,
0pt above/below...).
2) Insert this as a blank para at the top of the referenced flow.

This should fix the problem.

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On Behalf Of vikram chugh
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 3:13 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Text inset strange behaviour, any solution??

Hi Framers,
When i import a text inset with the options listed below I get an extra
line after importing the text inset. I am sure that my text inset does
not have any extra space or lines. How do I prevent from getting this
extra line. I have tried using the Ctrl+Space option but to no avail.
Any feedback will not only be greatly appreciated but also will be
rewarded by my lucky blessings (which actually work) GOD bless :):):)

* Flow to import: Body Page Flow
* Formatting of imported flow: Reformat using current document's formats
* Updating of imported flow: Automatic

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Text inset strange behaviour, any solution??

2006-03-13 Thread vikram chugh
Hi Framers,
When i import a text inset with the options listed
below I get an extra line after importing the text
inset. I am sure that my text inset does not have any
extra space or lines. How do I prevent from getting
this extra line. I have tried using the Ctrl+Space
option but to no avail. Any feedback will not only be
greatly appreciated but also will be rewarded by my
lucky blessings (which actually work) GOD bless :):):)

• Flow to import: Body Page Flow
• Formatting of imported flow: Reformat using current
document’s formats
• Updating of imported flow: Automatic

Regards,
Vikram
 

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Text inset strange behaviour, any solution??

2006-03-13 Thread vikram chugh
Hi Framers,
When i import a text inset with the options listed
below I get an extra line after importing the text
inset. I am sure that my text inset does not have any
extra space or lines. How do I prevent from getting
this extra line. I have tried using the Ctrl+Space
option but to no avail. Any feedback will not only be
greatly appreciated but also will be rewarded by my
lucky blessings (which actually work) GOD bless :):):)

? Flow to import: Body Page Flow
? Formatting of imported flow: Reformat using current
document?s formats
? Updating of imported flow: Automatic

Regards,
Vikram


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