[Framework-Team] Re: [plone4] Release process

2008-12-26 Thread Ross Patterson
Tres Seaver writes: > Hanno Schlichting wrote: > >> - Plone 4 will have a documented upgrade story >> >> A migration from Plone 3 to 4 does not need to be possible in an >> almost fully automated fashion. We need to ensure we have an easy to >> follow and understandable documented upgrade story.

[Framework-Team] Re: Explaining Plone on launchpad

2008-12-26 Thread Alexander Limi
On Thu, 25 Dec 2008 13:41:24 -0800, Graham Perrin wrote: Explanation should be simple (those currently found at are ideal) and should clarify why we sometimes find more at Launchpad than at other locations. This is just a temporary situation, once Plon

[Framework-Team] Re: A roadmap in a Trac

2008-12-26 Thread Alexander Limi
On Fri, 26 Dec 2008 13:48:42 -0800, David Glick wrote: Looks pretty good. Would be nice to show the status of each PLIP there if it's not hard. Have we considered how we're going to handle the search function once plone.org and trac look the same visually? If we just use the separate

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: [plone4] Release process

2008-12-26 Thread David Glick
On Dec 25, 2008, at 8:48 PM, Tres Seaver wrote: If someone wants to champion bringing transmogrifier and GSXML up to a point where they are a fully-featured export and import story for all aspects of typical Plone content types, that'd be awesome. I have on tap a non-XML serialization which

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: PLIP's for 3.x releases in Trac???

2008-12-26 Thread David Glick
On Dec 26, 2008, at 5:21 AM, Martin Aspeli wrote: I'm not sure where you got the impression. Moving the PLIP's to Trac has been discussed many month back and I effectively put this into practice two month back when adding the first PLIP for Plone 4 to Trac. This has nothing to do with the fram

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: A roadmap in a Trac

2008-12-26 Thread Sidnei da Silva
On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 7:48 PM, David Glick wrote: > Have we considered how we're going to handle the search function once > plone.org and trac look the same visually? If we just use the separate > search features of each product it's a bit non-ideal: Maybe something based on collective.solr?

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: A roadmap in a Trac

2008-12-26 Thread David Glick
On Dec 25, 2008, at 9:37 AM, Hanno Schlichting wrote: I just brushed up the Trac roadmap a bit (http://dev.plone.org/plone/roadmap) and included the PLIP's for Plone 4.0 into the overview (based on a TracQuery). I think after the forthcoming visual integration / refresh for all of Trac, it is

[Framework-Team] Re: [plone4] Release process: technology previews, inclusion and removal of trusted code

2008-12-26 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Graham Perrin wrote: > On 25 Dec 2008, at 17:08, Hanno Schlichting wrote: >> Comments? Anything else people want to know at this point? > > One question and one suggestion. Responses -- from the Team, not > necessarily from Hanno -- need not be 'at this point', January some time > will be fine. T

[Framework-Team] [plone4] Release process: technology previews, inclusion and removal of trusted code

2008-12-26 Thread Graham Perrin
On 25 Dec 2008, at 17:08, Hanno Schlichting wrote: Comments? Anything else people want to know at this point? One question and one suggestion. Responses -- from the Team, not necessarily from Hanno -- need not be 'at this point', January some time will be fine. A first "beta" release clo

[Framework-Team] Re: PLIP's for 3.x releases in Trac???

2008-12-26 Thread Martin Aspeli
Hanno Schlichting wrote: I was wondering the same thing. It very much looks like the framework team selection process somehow always invented a new PLIP process behind closed doors. That's certainly not the case. We did discuss that it's important for FWT members to seek wider community input

[Framework-Team] Preparing for Plone 4, without complicating the work of the people who are focused on 3

2008-12-26 Thread Graham Perrin
On 26 Dec 2008, at 09:18, Wichert Akkerman wrote: It very much looks like the framework team selection process somehow always invented a new PLIP process behind closed doors. There was AFAIR a few months ago a public announcement that the processes would be subject to change. In the same

[Framework-Team] Re: PLIP's for 3.x releases in Trac???

2008-12-26 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Wichert Akkerman wrote: > Previously Matthew Wilkes wrote: >> On 25 Dec 2008, at 17:39, Hanno Schlichting wrote: >> >>> we just decided to move all >>> PLIP's to Trac for Plone 4 and no longer use plone.org/products/plone >>> for it. >> Incidentally, I missed this, where was it discussed? Are we g

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: PLIP's for 3.x releases in Trac???

2008-12-26 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Matthew Wilkes wrote: > > On 25 Dec 2008, at 17:39, Hanno Schlichting wrote: > > >we just decided to move all > >PLIP's to Trac for Plone 4 and no longer use plone.org/products/plone > >for it. > > Incidentally, I missed this, where was it discussed? Are we going to > have a new wo