Re: [Framework-Team] [Plone-developers] Upcoming Plone 4.0 releases
On 23.05.2010, at 17:09, Hanno Schlichting ha...@hannosch.eu wrote: #10365 / #10366 - @@blob-file-migration fails on migrated site I fixed both of these today - but they are in desperate need of testing on real world data sets :) i haven't looked at the changeset itself ((In [36715]) Add upgrade step to convert all files and images to blobs.), but it sounds like the automatic blob-migration we didn't want to enforce. existing file and image content should remain untouched and migration to blobs optional. cheers, andi -- from phone — please excuse brevity___ Framework-Team mailing list Framework-Team@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/framework-team
Re: [Framework-Team] [Plone-developers] Upcoming Plone 4.0 releases
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 8:22 PM, Andreas Zeidler a...@zitc.de wrote: i haven't looked at the changeset itself ((In [36715]) Add upgrade step to convert all files and images to blobs.), but it sounds like the automatic blob-migration we didn't want to enforce. existing file and image content should remain untouched and migration to blobs optional. cheers, Why wouldn't we want to migrate content by default? If we don't do it by default, only a few will figure out how to do it and people loose the major advantage that blobs give them. I haven't been involved in the PLIP discussions around this as much, but I thought this was a clear case of something that just wasn't done yet. If you have a specialized need, you can opt-out of this upgrade step by using the portal_setup upgrades screen and omitting this one step. But the default should be to migrate people. Hanno ___ Framework-Team mailing list Framework-Team@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/framework-team
Re: [Framework-Team] [Plone-developers] Upcoming Plone 4.0 releases
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 12:09 PM, Hanno Schlichting ha...@hannosch.euwrote: Why wouldn't we want to migrate content by default? If we don't do it by default, only a few will figure out how to do it and people loose the major advantage that blobs give them. I haven't been involved in the PLIP discussions around this as much, but I thought this was a clear case of something that just wasn't done yet. If you have a specialized need, you can opt-out of this upgrade step by using the portal_setup upgrades screen and omitting this one step. But the default should be to migrate people. +1. Also, getting this change in as early as possible will give us more time to figure out whether there are migration issues. Having some data stored one way, and some data stored another (for the same type of content) just seems like it'll cause problems later. Is it a lot of work to enable? I assume the difficult part already exists, since we can manually trigger the migration? -- Alexander Limi · http://limi.net ___ Framework-Team mailing list Framework-Team@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/framework-team
Re: [Framework-Team] [Plone-developers] Upcoming Plone 4.0 releases
On 5/26/10 7:25 PM, Alexander Limi wrote: On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 12:09 PM, Hanno Schlichting ha...@hannosch.eu mailto:ha...@hannosch.eu wrote: Why wouldn't we want to migrate content by default? If we don't do it by default, only a few will figure out how to do it and people loose the major advantage that blobs give them. I haven't been involved in the PLIP discussions around this as much, but I thought this was a clear case of something that just wasn't done yet. If you have a specialized need, you can opt-out of this upgrade step by using the portal_setup upgrades screen and omitting this one step. But the default should be to migrate people. +1. Also, getting this change in as early as possible will give us more time to figure out whether there are migration issues. Having some data stored one way, and some data stored another (for the same type of content) just seems like it'll cause problems later. Is it a lot of work to enable? I assume the difficult part already exists, since we can manually trigger the migration? If I recall, the main risks are that the migration may take a long time, and that the admin may not have properly configured blob-storage in their buildout. The migration itself is pretty well-tested, at least under Plone 3 -- Groundwire has migrated dozens of sites to use blobs. There may be some other concern I am forgetting? David -- David Glick Web Developer Groundwire 206.286.1235x32 davidgl...@groundwire.org http://groundwire.org Sign up for Groundwire News! Tips, tools and news delivered directly to your inbox. http://groundwire.org/news-signup ___ Framework-Team mailing list Framework-Team@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/framework-team
