Re: [Framework-Team] Fwd: Re: Request to join the framework team

2013-06-27 Thread Ross Patterson
From: Ross Patterson m...@rpatterson.net To: Giacomo Spettoli public-giacomo.spettoli-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w-wOFGN7rlS /M9smdsby/k

Re: [Framework-Team] [Plone-developers] Call for Plone 5 Framework Team Members

2013-06-26 Thread Ross Patterson
...@lists.plone.org). Please include the name and email of the nominee as well as a note detailing experience with Plone and some reasons for wanting to join the team. Members will be selected by current and emeritus team members. Thanks, Ross Patterson

Re: [Framework-Team] Support for pre-PSE sprint

2013-04-21 Thread Ross Patterson
Elizabeth Leddy elizabeth.le...@gmail.com writes: Hello Lads, The board needs some official communication that the FWT supports the pre-PSE sprint as a strategic sprint. The pre-PSE sprint will be focused on on ripping out CMFFormController. Any objections to supporting funding this?

Re: [Framework-Team] Framework Team Dinner in Arnhem

2012-10-10 Thread Ross Patterson
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 3:06 AM, Martin Aspeli optil...@gmail.com wrote: Works for me. Can we bring the Roadmap team too? Absolutely, that sounds to me like a great improvement to the tradition of the annual FWT meeting. Ross On 10 Oct 2012, at 10:29, Ross Patterson m...@rpatterson.net wrote

Re: [Framework-Team] Meetings...

2011-09-06 Thread Ross Patterson
Yiorgis Gozadinos ggo...@jarn.com writes: Hey! We did not manage to meet this time either and it's been a while since we had a meeting. Would it be possible to let people know ahead whether we are having the meeting or not? Say for instance Eric or someone else asking the day before? At the

Re: [Framework-Team] Today's meeting

2011-09-04 Thread Ross Patterson
Eric Steele ems...@psu.edu writes: On Sep 2, 2011, at 11:13 PM, Ross Patterson wrote: Eric Steele ems...@psu.edu writes: Does anyone have items of significance for today's FWT meeting? Otherwise, we can just cancel and wait for new PLIPs to look at. How long can we wait before we don't

Re: [Framework-Team] FWT Meeting Notes: 8 March, 2011

2011-03-08 Thread Ross Patterson
Elizabeth Leddy ele...@umich.edu writes:    How to do an initial PLIP review I'm not even sure where to start here. Ideas? - is it formatted correctly - what dependencies would it introduce - what backwards compatibility impacts will it have (different for minor vs major versions) -

Re: [Framework-Team] Reworking the PLIP Lifecycle | discussion

2011-02-26 Thread Ross Patterson
Alec Mitchell ale...@gmail.com writes: On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Hanno Schlichting ha...@hannosch.eu wrote: On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 3:26 AM, Elizabeth Leddy ele...@umich.edu wrote: Feel free to respond over email or just edit the document: http://dev.plone.org/plone/wiki/PlipProcess

Re: [Framework-Team] Reworking the PLIP Lifecycle | discussion

2011-02-09 Thread Ross Patterson
Ross Patterson m...@rpatterson.net writes: Elizabeth Leddy ele...@umich.edu writes: Thanks for all the feedback guys! Curious what current team members think  +1, though I expected to gather more contradicting perspectives before weighing in in. Ok, so Eric I think we're a go. Lets

Re: [Framework-Team] Final decision on PLIP 9327 (Unified interface for lists of content)

2011-01-20 Thread Ross Patterson
Eric Steele ems...@psu.edu writes: I'd like to get a final consensus on whether or not PLIP 9327 will be included in 4.1. From discussion last week, several of you wanted to hold out until we knew whether collections and search results would be in. At this point, it looks like those two will

Re: [Framework-Team] Reworking the PLIP Lifecycle | discussion

2011-01-20 Thread Ross Patterson
Elizabeth Leddy ele...@umich.edu writes: Thanks for all the feedback guys! Curious what current team members think  +1, though I expected to gather more contradicting perspectives before weighing in in. Ross On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 11:44 PM, Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.net wrote:

Re: [Framework-Team] Fwd: Re: [Plone] #9288: Improved commenting infrastructure

2010-12-08 Thread Ross Patterson
Timo Stollenwerk li...@zmag.de writes: Hi, Elizabeth came across a problem with p.a.discussion during her PLIP review: Authenticated users are currently not able to post a comment, they need the Member role to do so. Do we also want authenticated users to be able to post comments? Shall

Re: [Framework-Team] FWT Meeting Tuesday

2010-11-07 Thread Ross Patterson
Eric Steele ems...@psu.edu writes: I'd like to have a quick meeting on Tuesday, Nov 9 to go over divvying up the submitted implementations, set a deadline, and discuss the merging of the Zope 2.13 and CMFPlone PLIPs. Sounds good, gonna send out another Calliflower invite? Ross

Re: [Framework-Team] PloneConf2010 FWT Dinner

2010-10-28 Thread Ross Patterson
Eric Steele ems...@psu.edu writes: Let's plan on Friday night for a Framework Team dinner. FWT alumni are invited, as well as whatever UI team members are here. I'd also like to have Israel, as our de facto docs team leader, join us. Any suggestions on a location? I'll be there. Also, I

Re: [Framework-Team] Our next meeting – PLIP-a -thon part 1

2010-08-13 Thread Ross Patterson
Eric Steele ems...@psu.edu writes: We've got 30 PLIPs in for 4.1 already (http://dev.plone.org/plone/report/24), so it's time to get together and start talking. Can I assume that next Tuesday at 14:00 UTC will work, or should I set up another Doodle thing? If that's the same time as the last

[Framework-Team] Re: Beta 1 is (essentially) out! FWT, your job is done.

2010-03-12 Thread Ross Patterson
Hanno Schlichting ha...@hannosch.eu writes: On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Laurence Rowe l...@lrowe.co.uk wrote: What happened in the 3.x series, I thought the 3.0 team stayed on. No. One member of the team stayed on from the 3.0 team for the 3.1 team. The 3.1 team then stayed the same

[Framework-Team] Re: Framework Team: Time is short, we need your reviews.

2009-09-09 Thread Ross Patterson
closer to being finished. Shame. Shme. We'd agreed that each of you would review a minimum of 6 PLIPs. Here's the breakdown of what you've done so far vs what you signed up for: David Glick 5 of 7 Calvin HP 0 of 6 Alec Mitchell 5 of 6 Ross Patterson0

[Framework-Team] Re: Framework Team: Time is short, we need your reviews.

2009-09-09 Thread Ross Patterson
on my OSX Leopard. See what you quoted below, I was replying to 9310, not 9309. :) Ross On Sep 10, 2009, at 1:20 AM, Ross Patterson wrote: 9309Better search for East Asian (multi-byte) languages. Matthew Wilkes 9310User registration process

[Framework-Team] PLIP load test reports available

2009-09-06 Thread Ross Patterson
You can find funkload load test benchmark reports and comparisons at: http://weblion.psu.edu/static/loadtesting/plone4.0/plips.html The buildout logs for the individual plips can be found with the same name as the *.cfg file substituting .log for .cfg in:

[Framework-Team] Re: PLIP load test reports available

2009-09-06 Thread Ross Patterson
Ross Patterson m...@rpatterson.net writes: Maurits van Rees maur...@vanrees.org writes: On Sun, Sep 06, 2009 at 05:52:52PM +0800, Martin Aspeli wrote: This is really good stuff! I must admit, I don't understand the graphs or the tables-of-graphs at all, though. Is there a quick

[Framework-Team] Re: PLIP load test reports available

2009-09-06 Thread Ross Patterson
than anything else I have at my disposal. Ross On Sep 6, 2009, at 5:03 AM, Ross Patterson wrote: You can find funkload load test benchmark reports and comparisons at: http://weblion.psu.edu/static/loadtesting/plone4.0/plips.html The buildout logs for the individual plips can be found

[Framework-Team] Re: [Plone 4] PLIP #9249 Add TinyMCE as the default visual editor

2009-07-27 Thread Ross Patterson
Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.net writes: On 7/27/09 1:38 PM, Rob Gietema wrote: Hi, I'm currently working on TinyMCE for Plone 4 and would like some feedback on two issues: 1) The current code base is located in the Collective. Since TinyMCE will be the default editor in Plone 4 should

[Framework-Team] Please accept PLIP #9305 (Use real names instead of usernames)

2009-07-15 Thread Ross Patterson
Hi Laurens, Your PLIP #9305 (Use real names instead of usernames) has been accepted by the FWT and I volunteered to oversee this PLIP. Can you log into trac and accept the PLIP ticket there and comment to confirm that you intend to implement this PLIP? Thanks! Ross

[Framework-Team] Please accept PLIP #9214 (support logins using e-mail address instead of user id)

2009-07-15 Thread Ross Patterson
Hi Maurits, Your PLIP #9214 (support logins using e-mail address instead of user id) has been accepted by the FWT and I volunteered to oversee this PLIP. Can you log into trac and accept the PLIP ticket there and comment to confirm that you intend to implement this PLIP? Thanks! Ross

[Framework-Team] PLIP activity list

2009-06-23 Thread Ross Patterson
Since there are some of us on the FWT that want to follow all PLIP activity and some of us who find that it's too much noise, we thought we might start a PLIP activity list. This list would be copied on all trac PLIP activity. Steve, can you set us up with a list? Plone admins, is there a more

[Framework-Team] Re: Plone 4 FWT meeting summary 2009-06-23

2009-06-23 Thread Ross Patterson
Eric Steele ems...@psu.edu writes: * Timing of call is somewhat inconvenient for some. We'll see if we can reschedule. New poll at http://www.doodle.com/zf9hkvyexzgi98tt,please fill out before next week. We'll meet weekly from now on. My availability is in there now. Thanks! Ross

[Framework-Team] Re: update on supporting Python 2.6 / Zope 2.12 / CMF 2.2

2009-06-21 Thread Ross Patterson
Martin Aspeli optilude+li...@gmail.com writes: rant Well, I really hate having default content around, that I have to delete all the time and people use in tests that later on break if we change it. The initial content just won't make sense for many sites and people waste huge amount of

[Framework-Team] Re: PLIP deadline overly aggressive?

2009-06-20 Thread Ross Patterson
Joel Burton j...@joelburton.com writes: I don't know what the discussion was like in deciding on this date. It may still be the right decision to have it end now. I'm just suggesting that, if it seems that quite a few people may think that this is a slightly-too-soon date, that you may

[Framework-Team] Re: PLIP deadline overly aggressive?

2009-06-20 Thread Ross Patterson
Matthew Wilkes matt...@matthewwilkes.co.uk writes: On 20 Jun 2009, at 19:38, Tres Seaver wrote: Isn't 4.0 deliberately a short-hop release, with minimal new feautres, mostly intended to move the platform forward (to modern versions of Zope, Python, CMF)? Keeping the window short emphasizes

[Framework-Team] Re: [Plone 4] Framework team, let's talk...

2009-06-04 Thread Ross Patterson
Calvin Hendryx-Parker cal...@sixfeetup.com writes: Here is the link we used to start this process: http://www.doodle.com/ucb3w2fcqieken28 Based on the responses, generally folks are available Monday and Tuesday at 2:00PM US/Eastern time. This works for me, how about the rest? Good by me.

[Framework-Team] Re: Plone 2009: Going from here

2009-05-08 Thread Ross Patterson
Raphael Ritz raphael.r...@incf.org writes: Eric Steele wrote: Since the new Plone 4 is looking like, essentially, a transitional release, another possibility would be to pull its framework team members from each of the currently-existing teams. I'm with Eric here and offer to

[Framework-Team] Re: The new Plone 4.0, was Re: Plone 3.5

2009-05-05 Thread Ross Patterson
Andreas Zeidler a...@zitc.de writes: On May 5, 2009, at 10:05 PM, Ross Patterson wrote: BLOBs: Has the backups/repozo story been sufficiently worked out? this will need a good backup story, but it won't be via repozo. repozo was meant to backup a single data.fs, but not your entire zodb

[Framework-Team] Re: The new Plone 4.0, was Re: Plone 3.5

2009-05-05 Thread Ross Patterson
Lennart Regebro rege...@gmail.com writes: On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 22:05, Ross Patterson m...@rpatterson.net wrote: Sorry if I'm resurrecting an already fairly resolved debate.  None of the concerns I raise here are enough to vote -1 one calling it 4.0.  But if enough people feel as I do here

[Framework-Team] Re: Plone Messaging

2009-05-05 Thread Ross Patterson
JoAnna Springsteen jluv...@gmail.com writes: So could a team be formed or delegated with the responsibility of reviewing Plone messaging?  Would such an institution be a slippery slope to too much dogma or other stifling restriction?  What might be some other ways to improve messaging in

[Framework-Team] Re: Plone 3.3b1 tagged and uploaded

2009-03-20 Thread Ross Patterson
Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.net writes: I have tagged and uploaded Plone 3.3b1. This is a first beta release, so please everyone: test the hell out of it! Unless any unexpected problems surface I intend to make a release candidate release in 3 weeks. I just wanted to draw attention to

[Framework-Team] Re: PLIP Community Imapacts

2009-03-14 Thread Ross Patterson
Israel Saeta Pérez dukeb...@gmail.com writes: On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 7:16 PM, Ross Patterson m...@rpatterson.net wrote: Ross Patterson m...@rpatterson.net writes: So far, much of the Plone 4 work has happened in narrower circles to free it up for prototyping, visioning

[Framework-Team] Re: Quick team meeting

2009-03-13 Thread Ross Patterson
Hanno Schlichting hanno...@hannosch.eu writes: Thanks for taking the initiative here. I'll not gonna make it to todays tune-up nor the conf call, though :( Four of us (calvinhp, ErikRose, ErikRose, zenwryly) made it to the meeting and came up with a few things to act on. I'll briefly

[Framework-Team] Scheduling 4.0 FWT Meetings (was: Quick team meeting)

2009-03-13 Thread Ross Patterson
Ross Patterson m...@rpatterson.net writes: The last item concerned future meetings. When should we do this meeting in the future? Every other week or every third work? Thursday? Friday? Would all of the FWT members weigh in with both preferences and outright scheduling conflicts

[Framework-Team] Re: Quick team meeting

2009-03-13 Thread Ross Patterson
Hanno Schlichting hanno...@hannosch.eu writes: So far, much of the Plone 4 work has happened in narrower circles to free it up for prototyping, visioning, and imagining new approaches. This has been in part to isolate such a process from the paralysis that can come from discussion of edge

[Framework-Team] Re: Fwd: Doodle: Link for poll Framework Team Meeting

2009-03-13 Thread Ross Patterson
Hanno Schlichting hanno...@hannosch.eu writes: Matthew Wilkes wrote: I've tried to include all the relevant possible times in this, let me know if there's another I should add. I'll be at PyCon in that week and have no idea what my time schedule is going to be. I'll try to join on whatever

[Framework-Team] Re: PLIP Community Imapacts

2009-03-13 Thread Ross Patterson
Jon Stahl j...@onenw.org writes: Ross Patterson m...@rpatterson.net writes: So far, much of the Plone 4 work has happened in narrower circles to free it up for prototyping, visioning, and imagining new approaches. This has been in part to isolate such a process from the paralysis

[Framework-Team] Re: PLIP Community Imapacts

2009-03-13 Thread Ross Patterson
Jon Stahl j...@onenw.org writes: East coast... summer... Ugh. :) East coast is significantly easier for the Europeans, both in travel time and intensity of jetlag. But all is open to discussion. They rallied to CA for the PSPS. :-) Just to be clear that was an utterly petty response

[Framework-Team] Re: PLIP lifecycle

2008-12-27 Thread Ross Patterson
Hanno Schlichting hanno...@hannosch.eu writes: The exact way to involve the UI and documentation team needs to be defined. I think we should write up the process first and then sent it for comments to the two others team. We can incorporate their feedback in terms of when and how they like to

[Framework-Team] Re: [plone4] Release process

2008-12-27 Thread Ross Patterson
Hanno Schlichting hanno...@hannosch.eu writes: - Plone 4 will be primarily a feature based release, not time-based ... - Plone 4 will be released based on an agile approach +1 I like this approach a lot. I've been worrying about how to be ambitious while still ensuring that Plone 4.0 is

[Framework-Team] Re: [plone4] Release process

2008-12-27 Thread Ross Patterson
Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com writes: Ross Patterson wrote: Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com writes: Hanno Schlichting wrote: - Plone 4 will have a documented upgrade story A migration from Plone 3 to 4 does not need to be possible in an almost fully automated fashion. We need

[Framework-Team] Re: [Plone-developers] Re: Plone 4 Framework Team Selection List

2008-12-18 Thread Ross Patterson
Tom Lazar li...@tomster.org writes: On 18.12.2008, at 11:48, Wichert Akkerman wrote: On 12/18/08 11:43 AM, Tom Lazar wrote: and therefore should be reflected in the membership of the group which makes decisions based on those factors. i think that conclusion is the only part where we

[Framework-Team] Re: [Plone-developers] Re: Plone 4 Framework Team Selection List

2008-12-18 Thread Ross Patterson
Ross Patterson m...@rpatterson.net writes: Tom Lazar li...@tomster.org writes: On 18.12.2008, at 11:48, Wichert Akkerman wrote: On 12/18/08 11:43 AM, Tom Lazar wrote: and therefore should be reflected in the membership of the group which makes decisions based on those factors. i think

[Framework-Team] Re: five.intid compatible with five.localsitemanager

2007-04-15 Thread Ross Patterson
Martin Aspeli [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As a general point, it's almost never necessary to cross-post to the plone-devel and plone-framework lists. The framework team uses the latter to discuss their business, and some of the more tactical how-to-we-manage-the-release-process discussions

[Framework-Team] Re: five.intid compatible with five.localsitemanager

2007-04-15 Thread Ross Patterson
Martin Aspeli [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I posted to framework because it was one of the only places I found any previous discussion of five.intid. I will not post to the framework list again. I didn't say that. :) We don't mind non-framework-team members posting there, especially if it's

[Framework-Team] Re: five.intid compatible with five.localsitemanager

2007-04-13 Thread Ross Patterson
whit [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ross, let me know if there is anything I can do to help you with a release(or if you need me to make one). fiancé is out of town this weekend and I'm going to dedicate an evening or two to stuff like this. Firstly, I just want to reiterate that merging this

[Framework-Team] five.intid compatible with five.localsitemanager

2007-04-12 Thread Ross Patterson
I need five.intid in Plone 3.0 so I started a branch that is compatible with five.localsitemanager as is used in Plone 3.0/Zope 2.10: http://svn.plone.org/svn/collective/five.intid/branch/localsitemanager/ Is there any interest in integrating this into five.intid/trunk? If so I'd be happy to