[Framework-Team] Re: Plone 3.0 dates

2006-07-27 Thread Martin Aspeli
Alexander Limi wrote: Hi Framework Team, We haven't seen any official dates for PLIP freeze, bundles, alpha/beta/RC/final from you yet for 3.0. Can you see if you can get some dates down asap, so we can start communicating them to people? Maybe I should be doing that, ey? :) Hanno, as the

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: Names, names and we need a decision

2006-07-27 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Rob Miller said: > for the record, i'm actually -100 on using cubed, or anything else w/o > "plone" > in it. if we produce good, reusable software that is generally applicable > beyond our immediate CMS needs and we don't call it plone.something, then > i > think we've lost a significa

[Framework-Team] Re: Names, names and we need a decision

2006-07-27 Thread Martin Aspeli
Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Rob Miller said: for the record, i'm actually -100 on using cubed, or anything else w/o "plone" in it. if we produce good, reusable software that is generally applicable beyond our immediate CMS needs and we don't call it plone.something, then i think we've lo

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: Names, names and we need a decision

2006-07-27 Thread Raphael Ritz
Martin Aspeli schrieb: Hi Martin I'd like to give Helge and Raphael a chance to reply, too, first, but I'll do it, say, over the weekend? and here are mine: 1. cubed / plone -> -1 2. plone / plone.app -> +1 3. plone / plone.cms -> 0 Raphael PS: actually I did reply right away but only to

[Framework-Team] Re: Names, names and we need a decision

2006-07-27 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Hi Martin. Martin Aspeli wrote: Hanno Schlichting wrote: If nobody disagrees with anything in general I would like to get simple -1/0/+1 votes for all of the three alternatives. The option with the highest positive number should obviously win. If we don't get a clear result I would let Marti

[Framework-Team] Re: Names, names and we need a decision

2006-07-27 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Raphael Ritz wrote: PS: actually I did reply right away but only to Hanno as I didn't notice that the reply-to header wasn't set to the list :-( Uhm, sorry. I always use reply-all as in my experience most people don't set proper reply-to headers. But I promise to better myself ;) Hanno _

Re: [Framework-Team] Names, names and we need a decision

2006-07-27 Thread Helge Tesdal
-1 cubed / plone +1 plone / plone.app -1 plone / plone.cms -- Helge Tesdal Plone Solutions ___ Framework-Team mailing list Framework-Team@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/framework-team

[Framework-Team] Re: Plone 3.0 dates

2006-07-27 Thread Martin Aspeli
Hi guys, > August 21, proposal freeze (review bundles must be ready)I don't think this is too bad - perhaps push back by 2 week or so, but definitely start getting the word out now and make people start acting. > September 25, feature freeze (all features have been merged)This worries me more. How

[Framework-Team] Re: Names, names and we need a decision

2006-07-27 Thread Rocky Burt
On Thu, 2006-27-07 at 01:54 +0100, Martin Aspeli wrote: > Rob Miller wrote: > > Martin Aspeli wrote: > >> Hanno Schlichting wrote: > >> > >>> If nobody disagrees with anything in general I would like to get > >>> simple -1/0/+1 votes for all of the three alternatives. The option > >>> with the hi

[Framework-Team] [Fwd: Re: Plone 3.0 dates]

2006-07-27 Thread Hanno Schlichting
(Repost as the message didn't seem to get through...) Hi. Our busy time seems to start ;) Martin Aspeli wrote: Alexander Limi wrote: Hi Framework Team, We haven't seen any official dates for PLIP freeze, bundles, alpha/beta/RC/final from you yet for 3.0. Can you see if you can get some da

[Framework-Team] Re: Names, names and we need a decision

2006-07-27 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Ok, here's the result: Counting only the FWT members: cubed / plone 0 plone / plone.app +5.5 plone / plone.cms 0 All votes: cubed / plone -2 plone / plone.app +6.5 plone / plone.cms 0 I guess this is a clear result and we would all love to see Martin write one

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: Names, names and we need a decision

2006-07-27 Thread Martin Aspeli
Hi Hanno,I'm happy to write the plone / plone.app announcement, and I can write the bit about guidelines for when to use them. However, I'm not too sure how we do the svn organisation. - are we recommending people use ZopeSkel?  - with what options? - how should they do the import?I'd love for us t

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: Names, names and we need a decision

2006-07-27 Thread whit
Martin Aspeli wrote: Hi Hanno, I'm happy to write the plone / plone.app announcement, and I can write the bit about guidelines for when to use them. However, I'm not too sure how we do the svn organisation. - are we recommending people use ZopeSkel? cautious but enthusiastic non-fwt +1 here

[Framework-Team] Re: Re: Names, names and we need a decision

2006-07-27 Thread Rocky Burt
On Thu, 2006-27-07 at 10:46 -0500, whit wrote: > Martin Aspeli wrote: > > Hi Hanno, > > > > I'm happy to write the plone / plone.app announcement, and I can write > > the bit about guidelines for when to use them. However, I'm not too > > sure how we do the svn organisation. > > > > - are we rec

[Framework-Team] Re: Names, names and we need a decision

2006-07-27 Thread Daniel Nouri
Alexander Limi wrote: On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 02:29:41 -0700, Daniel Nouri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -1 for plone / plone.cms as it is confusing ("heck, isn't all of Plone for CMS 'functionality'?") It might not be in the future. An example would be a dedicated deployment solution, a document

[Framework-Team] Re: Names, names and we need a decision

2006-07-27 Thread Daniel Nouri
Alexander Limi wrote: On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 02:29:41 -0700, Daniel Nouri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -1 for plone / plone.cms as it is confusing ("heck, isn't all of Plone for CMS 'functionality'?") It might not be in the future. An example would be a dedicated deployment solution, a document

[Framework-Team] Re: Names, names and we need a decision

2006-07-27 Thread Daniel Nouri
whit wrote: Martin Aspeli wrote: Hi Hanno, I'm happy to write the plone / plone.app announcement, and I can write the bit about guidelines for when to use them. However, I'm not too sure how we do the svn organisation. - are we recommending people use ZopeSkel? cautious but enthusiastic no

[Framework-Team] Re: Names, names and we need a decision

2006-07-27 Thread Martin Aspeli
Daniel Nouri wrote: whit wrote: Martin Aspeli wrote: Hi Hanno, I'm happy to write the plone / plone.app announcement, and I can write the bit about guidelines for when to use them. However, I'm not too sure how we do the svn organisation. - are we recommending people use ZopeSkel? cautiou

[Framework-Team] Re: Plone 3.0 dates

2006-07-27 Thread Alexander Limi
On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 03:49:43 -0700, Martin Aspeli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: September 25, feature freeze (all features have been merged) This worries me more. How complete must a review bundle be? I'd like to put the bar at "useful and achievable". That is, we should recommend a bundle if i