Re: [Frameworks] Fwd: Your membership in the mailing list FrameWorks has been disabled
I get this sporadically too. I re-activated myself just the other day. From: televis...@hotmail.com Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2014 15:24:00 -0800 To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: [Frameworks] Fwd: Your membership in the mailing list FrameWorks has been disabled This needs to be figured out. Tim Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: From: frameworks-requ...@jonasmekasfilms.com Date: December 15, 2014 at 2:34:54 PM PST To: televis...@hotmail.com Subject: confirm 6fe28d23516caf202df262848c16941d80a8b87e Your membership in the mailing list FrameWorks has been disabled due to excessive bounces The last bounce received from you was dated 15-Dec-2014. You will not get any more messages from this list until you re-enable your membership. You will receive 3 more reminders like this before your membership in the list is deleted. To re-enable your membership, you can simply respond to this message (leaving the Subject: line intact), or visit the confirmation page at https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/confirm/frameworks/6fe28d23516caf202df262848c16941d80a8b87e You can also visit your membership page at https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/options/frameworks/televisual%40hotmail.com On your membership page, you can change various delivery options such as your email address and whether you get digests or not. As a reminder, your membership password is Xx If you have any questions or problems, you can contact the list owner at frameworks-ow...@jonasmekasfilms.com ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Fwd: Your membership in the mailing list FrameWorks has been disabled
Yeah, I agree, this is annoying and something has to be done about it. I do not want to be forced to re-activate myself every few months. Marcin From: Michael D Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 9:02 PM To: Experimental Film Discussion List Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Fwd: Your membership in the mailing list FrameWorks has been disabled I get this sporadically too. I re-activated myself just the other day. From: televis...@hotmail.com Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2014 15:24:00 -0800 To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: [Frameworks] Fwd: Your membership in the mailing list FrameWorks has been disabled This needs to be figured out. Tim Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: From: frameworks-requ...@jonasmekasfilms.com Date: December 15, 2014 at 2:34:54 PM PST To: televis...@hotmail.com Subject: confirm 6fe28d23516caf202df262848c16941d80a8b87e Your membership in the mailing list FrameWorks has been disabled due to excessive bounces The last bounce received from you was dated 15-Dec-2014. You will not get any more messages from this list until you re-enable your membership. You will receive 3 more reminders like this before your membership in the list is deleted. To re-enable your membership, you can simply respond to this message (leaving the Subject: line intact), or visit the confirmation page at https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/confirm/frameworks/6fe28d23516caf202df262848c16941d80a8b87e You can also visit your membership page at https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/options/frameworks/televisual%40hotmail.com On your membership page, you can change various delivery options such as your email address and whether you get digests or not. As a reminder, your membership password is Xx If you have any questions or problems, you can contact the list owner at frameworks-ow...@jonasmekasfilms.com ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Fwd: Your membership in the mailing list FrameWorks has been disabled
Application of anti-spam measures that don't comply with Internet protocols are causing problems for mailman, the software that runs this list. Pip, maybe you can contact tech support at webfaction and ask them if they can set the from_is_list option discussed in this thread https://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2014-April/076675.html or this how-to http://wiki.list.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=17891458 Eric On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 1:38 PM, Marcin Gizycki mgizy...@hotmail.com wrote: Yeah, I agree, this is annoying and something has to be done about it. I do not want to be forced to re-activate myself every few months. Marcin *From:* Michael D michael...@hotmail.com *Sent:* Tuesday, December 16, 2014 9:02 PM *To:* Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com *Subject:* Re: [Frameworks] Fwd: Your membership in the mailing list FrameWorks has been disabled I get this sporadically too. I re-activated myself just the other day. -- From: televis...@hotmail.com Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2014 15:24:00 -0800 To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: [Frameworks] Fwd: Your membership in the mailing list FrameWorks has been disabled This needs to be figured out. Tim Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: *From:* frameworks-requ...@jonasmekasfilms.com *Date:* December 15, 2014 at 2:34:54 PM PST *To:* televis...@hotmail.com *Subject:* *confirm 6fe28d23516caf202df262848c16941d80a8b87e* Your membership in the mailing list FrameWorks has been disabled due to excessive bounces The last bounce received from you was dated 15-Dec-2014. You will not get any more messages from this list until you re-enable your membership. You will receive 3 more reminders like this before your membership in the list is deleted. To re-enable your membership, you can simply respond to this message (leaving the Subject: line intact), or visit the confirmation page at https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/confirm/frameworks/6fe28d23516caf202df262848c16941d80a8b87e You can also visit your membership page at https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/options/frameworks/televisual%40hotmail.com On your membership page, you can change various delivery options such as your email address and whether you get digests or not. As a reminder, your membership password is Xx If you have any questions or problems, you can contact the list owner at frameworks-ow...@jonasmekasfilms.com ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks -- ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] films on film-making/unfinished films
I've been keeping an eye on this thread, and every time a new message comes across, it makes me think of these two examples, possibly too tangential to the original poster's intent. Two Films I Never Made (1973), by Herbert Jean de Grasse. It's just 4 minutes of black leader where the filmmaker relates what we'd be seeing had he made the films. A bit of a throwaway, but I seem to recall we showed it more than once at the Experimental Film Coalition screenings in Chicago and audiences enjoyed de Grasse's mischievous narration. http://canyoncinema.com/catalog/film/?i=740 I was sad to learn that Mr. de Grasse passed away towards the end of 2012. http://napavalleyregister.com/obituaries/herbert-jean-de-grasse/article_44ac2036-522d-11e2-9383-0019bb2963f4.html And for a musical example, John Darnielle (The Mountain Goats) has a side project with Franklin Bruno called The Extra Lens, and the song Only Existing Footage on their recording Undercard (2010) chronicles the unraveling of a film project. Annihilation pouring since it found out where I drink. Eric On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 7:26 AM, paris-experimen...@numericable.fr wrote: in 2003-2006 I tried to recompose an unfinished (experimental) film left by one of my student/ Here is the beginning of the film *OUT OF (k)NOWHERE : A FILM BY ANNE PRAT* (2003-2006) DV, bw/color, sound, 24 min. *« Ouverture »* Very little was left of the film by Anne Prat, a brilliant student who studied cinema with me at the University of Paris in the 1970s. Anne Prat was not just any student. She would usually arrive twenty minutes before the end of class – something that I found rather annoying – and only to see the screening of the avant-garde films that concluded each lesson. Three weeks before summer break in 1976, even though she had not taken part in any of practical lessons, she presented a short film, shot in the Brakhage style, which surprised all of us with its technical mastery. She informed me she was going to stop studying and go to Australia, and that her film was just the beginning of a larger and more complicated cinematographic work. Two years later, I found out that Anne Prat, after returning to Paris, had found work in a film lab for the sole reason of being able to develop for free the numerous reels she had shot and to duplicate, on the sly and for herself, some classic films she particularly liked. All this in order to realize her ambitious film project, on which she worked tirelessly, which consisted of a large composition for two film projectors, and various sound fragments. She described certain passages to me, speaking of «images and sounds that come out of nowhere, as if in a daydream» and revealed the film’s definitive title: *Out of (k)nowhere*. A few weeks later, Anne Prat left a message on my answering machine, informing me that she was returning to Australia. She told me that she had left the material for her film at the university, in a big box, and asked me to pick it up. At that time, I had no idea I would never going to see her again. In November of 2002, while creating an inventory of my films, I rediscovered that big box. I thought back on Anne Prat’s project, and remembered her story and what she had told me twenty years earlier. So I started viewing the film and listening to the sound recordings, one after another, in the designated numerical order. In the box, I only found one rough scenario that indicated that the film was to be two hours long overall and divided into a number of parts, separated from each other by silence, darkness and the songs of exotic birds. There was a cassette attached to the notes, of the bird songs, recorded by Australian ornithologist John N. Hutchinson. Using my memory as the starting point, and the material left by Anne Prat, I have tried to reconstruct that which *Out of (k)nowhere* could have been. The film begins with the short, silent Brakhage-style work, meant for only one screen. Later, where it was possible, I reconstructed the dual-screen projection according to the directions in the outline. C. L., Paris, 7 May 2003 This film is not on line. If you have any interest, please contact me off list to get a DVD Christian Lebrat F-Paris Message d'origine De : Adam Sekuler asekuler0...@gmail.com À : Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Objet : Re: [Frameworks] films on film-making/unfinished films Date : 10/12/2014 15:38:08 CET Raya Martin and Mark Peranson's La última película On Dec 10, 2014, at 7:11 AM, christopher nigel christophernige...@gmail.com wrote: The last movie By Dennis Hopper , Hopper was in many ways! way head ! On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 8:15 PM, Adam Hyman a...@lafilmforum.org wrote: More documentaries about: Jodorowsky’s Dune (2014) http://jodorowskysdune.com/ Henri-Georges Clouzot's Inferno (2009):
