Re: [Frameworks] Films that utilize the zoom lens?

2013-01-05 Thread Peter Mudie
Zoom Lapse – John Du Cane, 1975 (UK)
Accretion – John Du Cane, 1977 (I think – also UK)
Peter

Hello Frameworks,

I'm hoping you can suggest some films (experimental or otherwise) to look at 
that utilize the zoom lens (the active, moving zoom). So far I have looked at 
these:

WAVELENGTH by Michael Snow
SERENE VELOCITY by Ernie Gehr
BREAKAWAY by Bruce Conner

and in the more narrative/documentary realm I have recently enjoyed HARVEST: 
3000 YEARS by Haile Gerima and LAST CHANTS FOR A SLOW DANCE and SPEAKING 
DIRECTLY by Jon Jost.

Please recommend any films that you think might be of interest.

Thanks in advance,

Mike Stoltz
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Re: [Frameworks] Downloading Fair Use Video from You Tube

2013-01-05 Thread Stefano Dooijes
Download helper add-on for firefox is very simple to use, lets you choose the 
quality too.

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Re: [Frameworks] Downloading Fair Use Video from You Tube

2013-01-05 Thread Mirko Heinemann
keepvid.com
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Re: [Frameworks] Downloading Fair Use Video from You Tube

2013-01-05 Thread peter snowdon
It depends on your platform - which operating system, which browser,
etc. I can only speak about Mac.

I find Safari and Firefox plug-ins (on OSX) tend to work for a while,
then stop working, or work only erratically, which is kind of
frustrating...

I used to use this:

[1]http://www.verticalforest.com/2010/06/09/youtube5-html5-converter-fo
r-youtube-videos/

But I am increasingly convinced of the merits of this:

[2]http://thelittleappfactory.com/grappler/

It costs money, but it seems not only more reliable than the browser
plugins I tried, but it also works with any video source I throw at it
(I couldn't get the vertical forest plugin to capture videos posted
direct to Facebook, but Grappler does that no problem).

Hope this helps:

Peter





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Re: [Frameworks] Downloading Fair Use Video from You Tube

2013-01-05 Thread Peter Mudie
Wondershare Free YouTube Downloader – operates on any browser:
(http://www.wondershare.com/pro/free-youtube-downloader.html)
No need to upgrade to the 'pro' version (unless you want to set batch downloads)

The videos come in a flv files – just crunch them (to whatever format) with:
(http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/43682/flv-crunch)

Both are free – easy to use and stable (to import into FCP or Premiere).
Peter



It depends on your platform - which operating system, which browser, etc. I can 
only speak about Mac.
I find Safari and Firefox plug-ins (on OSX) tend to work for a while, then stop 
working, or work only erratically, which is kind of frustrating...
I used to use this:
http://www.verticalforest.com/2010/06/09/youtube5-html5-converter-for-youtube-videos/
But I am increasingly convinced of the merits of this:
http://thelittleappfactory.com/grappler/
It costs money, but it seems not only more reliable than the browser plugins I 
tried, but it also works with any video source I throw at it (I couldn't get 
the vertical forest plugin to capture videos posted direct to Facebook, but 
Grappler does that no problem).
Hope this helps:
Peter


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I'm looking for the best and simplest method of downloading *fair use* films 
from You Tube. Thanks, Ken
www.crookedbeautythefilm.comhttp://www.crookedbeautythefilm.com  (Academic)
www.crookedbeauty.comhttp://www.crookedbeauty.com  (Public)
www.maddancementalhealthfilmtrilogy.comhttp://www.maddance-amentalhealthfilmtrilogy.com
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Re: [Frameworks] Films that utilize the zoom lens?

2013-01-05 Thread Gene Youngblood
Don’t forget the “constructed zooms” in Bill Viola’s early work,  Space Between 
the Teeth, Sweet Light, and Ancient of Days – nontrivial meditations on time, 
space and scale. You will recall that in Ancient of Days, a zoom moves into a 
street scene at a constant rate while motion in the street slows to a halt, 
independent of the zoom. 


From: Mike Stoltz 
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 10:15 PM
To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com 
Subject: [Frameworks] Films that utilize the zoom lens?

Hello Frameworks,

I'm hoping you can suggest some films (experimental or otherwise) to look at 
that utilize the zoom lens (the active, moving zoom). So far I have looked at 
these:

WAVELENGTH by Michael Snow
SERENE VELOCITY by Ernie Gehr
BREAKAWAY by Bruce Conner

and in the more narrative/documentary realm I have recently enjoyed HARVEST: 
3000 YEARS by Haile Gerima and LAST CHANTS FOR A SLOW DANCE and SPEAKING 
DIRECTLY by Jon Jost.

Please recommend any films that you think might be of interest.

Thanks in advance,

Mike Stoltz




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Re: [Frameworks] Films that utilize the zoom lens?

2013-01-05 Thread peter snowdon
The work of Hong Sang-soo: starting with Tale of Cinema (2005), it has
become central to his process and style.





On Sat, Jan 5, 2013, at 06:15 AM, Mike Stoltz wrote:

Hello Frameworks,



I'm hoping you can suggest some films (experimental or otherwise) to
look at that utilize the zoom lens (the active, moving zoom). So far I
have looked at these:



WAVELENGTH by Michael Snow

SERENE VELOCITY by Ernie Gehr

BREAKAWAY by Bruce Conner



and in the more narrative/documentary realm I have recently enjoyed
HARVEST: 3000 YEARS by Haile Gerima and LAST CHANTS FOR A SLOW DANCE
and SPEAKING DIRECTLY by Jon Jost.



Please recommend any films that you think might be of interest.



Thanks in advance,



Mike Stoltz

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Re: [Frameworks] Downloading Fair Use Video from You Tube

2013-01-05 Thread David Tetzlaff
YouTube keeps changing their system, breaking the popular video downloaders for 
Firefox: e.g. Download Helper doesn't work now. Right now I'm using ByTubeD 
which isn't a super simple 1-click thing, but it's not hard to understand and 
it works. You need to be using Firefox, not Safari.


On Jan 5, 2013, at 1:08 AM, Ken Paul Rosenthal wrote:

 I'm looking for the best and simplest method of downloading *fair use* films 
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Re: [Frameworks] Films that utilize the zoom lens?

2013-01-05 Thread David Tetzlaff
The car chase in Bullit
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Re: [Frameworks] Downloading Fair Use Video from You Tube

2013-01-05 Thread Sean Morris
I've found Speedbit works awesome, both with Vimeo and Youtube

http://www.speedbit.com/video-downloader-converter/


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Re: [Frameworks] Films that utilize the zoom lens?

2013-01-05 Thread Jen Proctor
Nearly all of Kubrick's films. A lot of Tarantino, too.


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Re: [Frameworks] Films that utilize the zoom lens?

2013-01-05 Thread Tim Halloran
There are a few still image zooms in Marker's LA JETEE.

Tim

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On Jan 4, 2013, at 9:15 PM, Mike Stoltz stoltz.m...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello Frameworks,
 
 I'm hoping you can suggest some films (experimental or otherwise) to look at 
 that utilize the zoom lens (the active, moving zoom). So far I have looked at 
 these:
 
 WAVELENGTH by Michael Snow
 SERENE VELOCITY by Ernie Gehr
 BREAKAWAY by Bruce Conner
 
 and in the more narrative/documentary realm I have recently enjoyed HARVEST: 
 3000 YEARS by Haile Gerima and LAST CHANTS FOR A SLOW DANCE and SPEAKING 
 DIRECTLY by Jon Jost.
 
 Please recommend any films that you think might be of interest.
 
 Thanks in advance,
 
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Re: [Frameworks] Films that utilize the zoom lens?

2013-01-05 Thread Jim Flannery
Friday, January 4, 2013, 9:18:24 PM, one wrote:

 And multiple Andy Warhol films.

In particular, _The Velvet Underground and Nico_ goes beyond
gratuitous zoom to some whole other plane.

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Re: [Frameworks] Films that utilize the zoom lens?

2013-01-05 Thread Kelsey Brain
dear Mike,

Andy Warhol's CAMP (1965) and Peter Watkin's PUNISHMENT PARK (1971) both
use a crash zoom effect in vastly different settings. It's wild to think of
these two films together.

Stephen Dwoskin's BEHINDERT (1974) has a subjective, exploring zoom lens,
which shares some similarites with Chick Strand's FAKE FRUIT FACTORY (1986)
and SENORA CON FLORES (1995/2011).

Yours,
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Re: [Frameworks] Films that utilize the zoom lens?

2013-01-05 Thread Gene Youngblood
sometimes its interesting to consider the difference between a zoom-in and a 
dolly-in or crane-in, like Hitchcock’s Notorious and Foreign Correspondent, 
which essentially accomplish the same transition from wide angle to ECU without 
cutting. Foreign Correspondent is a dolly-in-the-sky.  Regarding zooms, I 
recall some kind of gathering in a late Visconti where the camera zooms in on 
faces in the crowd one after another repeatedly. And another early Viola, Chott 
el-Djerid, has epic zooms in the Sahara. 

From: Kelsey Brain 
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2013 1:07 PM
To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com 
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dear Mike,

Andy Warhol's CAMP (1965) and Peter Watkin's PUNISHMENT PARK (1971) both use a 
crash zoom effect in vastly different settings. It's wild to think of these two 
films together.

Stephen Dwoskin's BEHINDERT (1974) has a subjective, exploring zoom lens, which 
shares some similarites with Chick Strand's FAKE FRUIT FACTORY (1986) and 
SENORA CON FLORES (1995/2011).

Yours,
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Re: [Frameworks] Films that utilize the zoom lens?

2013-01-05 Thread Dicky
I believe the Visconti film you are talking about is The Damned.

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   sometimes its interesting to consider the difference between a zoom-in
 and a dolly-in or crane-in, like Hitchcock’s Notorious and Foreign
 Correspondent, which essentially accomplish the same transition from wide
 angle to ECU without cutting. Foreign Correspondent is a dolly-in-the-sky.
 Regarding zooms, I recall some kind of gathering in a late Visconti where
 the camera zooms in on faces in the crowd one after another repeatedly. And
 another early Viola, Chott el-Djerid, has epic zooms in the Sahara.

  *From:* Kelsey Brain kelseymbr...@gmail.com
 *Sent:* Saturday, January 05, 2013 1:07 PM
 *To:* frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
 *Subject:* Re: [Frameworks] Films that utilize the zoom lens?

  dear Mike,

 Andy Warhol's CAMP (1965) and Peter Watkin's PUNISHMENT PARK (1971) both
 use a crash zoom effect in vastly different settings. It's wild to think of
 these two films together.

 Stephen Dwoskin's BEHINDERT (1974) has a subjective, exploring zoom lens,
 which shares some similarites with Chick Strand's FAKE FRUIT FACTORY (1986)
 and SENORA CON FLORES (1995/2011).

 Yours,
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Re: [Frameworks] Downloading Fair Use Video from You Tube

2013-01-05 Thread Matt Helme
I use iLivid.
Matt


http://www.youtube.com/user/matthelme007
 


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thanks, Dan!

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YouTube keeps changing their system, breaking the popular video downloaders for 
Firefox: e.g. Download Helper doesn't work now. Right now I'm using ByTubeD 
which isn't a super simple 1-click thing, but it's not hard to understand and 
it works. You need to be using Firefox, not Safari.


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Re: [Frameworks] Films that utilize the zoom lens?

2013-01-05 Thread John McAndrew
The recent mainstream film Limitless uses an infinite zoom in effect in
the opening credits sequence and during a montage or two.

On a similar note, check out the educational film Powers of Ten:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fKBhvDjuy0

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Re: [Frameworks] Films that utilize the zoom lens?

2013-01-05 Thread carlileb

Altman's 'The Long Goodbye.' It kind of invented the wandering camera look 
that's become so annoying today.






I remember Walkabout has a lot of interesting zoom shots.  And Easy Rider is 
very zoomy!


-Ian Wood
Filmmaker




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I remember Walkabout has a lot of interesting zoom shots.  And Easy Rider is 
very zoomy!


-Ian Wood
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Nearly all of Kubrick's films. A lot of Tarantino, too.



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Re: [Frameworks] Films that utilize the zoom lens?

2013-01-05 Thread kenneth curwood
Atman by Toshio Matsumoto.

http://vimeo.com/36978664

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 Altman's 'The Long Goodbye.' It kind of invented the wandering camera look
 that's become so annoying today.


  I remember Walkabout has a lot of interesting zoom shots.  And Easy
 Rider is very zoomy!

  -Ian Wood
 Filmmaker



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  I remember Walkabout has a lot of interesting zoom shots.  And Easy
 Rider is very zoomy!

  -Ian Wood
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   Nearly all of Kubrick's films. A lot of Tarantino, too.


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 The car chase in Bullit
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