Re: [Frameworks] History question

was it Thanatopsis? love that film. Owen's mobile device > On Jun 26, 2016, at 8:42 PM, Colinet André wrote: > > I agree with Myron and Fred. > That makes three cranky old schoolers. > Colinet André > Brussels > > From: Myron Ort > Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016

Re: [Frameworks] films using ancient Greek themes, etc.

I agree, Owen. I love--and rely on--Frameworks. Thank you all for your thoughtful suggestions and connections! CC Caryn Cline Experimental Filmmaker & Teacher vimeo.com/carynyc film still from "Ektacy" (2015) On Sat, Jun 25, 2016 at 7:09 PM, o...@thenowcorporation.com <

Re: [Frameworks] History question

Just saying, that is an Experimental Film circa 1962. Ed Emshwiller ! was ok in my book. Myron Ort > On Jun 26, 2016, at 6:12 PM, Myron Ort wrote: > > Ed Emshwiller, hey kids take a look: > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDoH_KGTR7A >

Re: [Frameworks] History question

Ed Emshwiller, hey kids take a look: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDoH_KGTR7A > On Jun 26, 2016, at 5:42 PM, Colinet André wrote: > > I agree with Myron and Fred. > That makes three cranky old schoolers. >

Re: [Frameworks] History question

I agree with Myron and Fred. That makes three cranky old schoolers. Colinet André Brussels From: Myron Ort Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 12:09 AM To: Experimental Film Discussion List Subject: Re: [Frameworks] History question in the 60s we all would shoot elapsed time single exposures of lights

Re: [Frameworks] texts on interlacing

Nice video Albert, many thanks for sharing Ben http://thosesoundsbetween.co.uk http://timeinbetweenspace.tumblr.com It takes along as it takes On 26-Jun-16 10:13 PM, Albert Alcoz wrote: Hello Ben, Here's a video I created some years ago dealing with interlacing aesthetic:

Re: [Frameworks] texts on interlacing

Yes, a real good reminder thanks! Ben http://thosesoundsbetween.co.uk http://timeinbetweenspace.tumblr.com It takes along as it takes On 26-Jun-16 1:18 PM, Laura McGough wrote: Richard Dienst talks a bit about scanning as an aesthetic in "Still Life in Real Time: Theory After Television"

Re: [Frameworks] History question

in the 60s we all would shoot elapsed time single exposures of lights at night either moving the camera while exposing or letting the movement of the car or whatever make the streaks, usually superimposing over other stuff. Not necessarily long term time lapse requiring a timer though... Ed

Re: [Frameworks] texts on interlacing

Wow, very cool film, Albert, and very inventive use of the effect! Thanks for sharing. Kasper 2016-06-26 23:13 GMT+02:00 Albert Alcoz : > Hello Ben, > > Here's a video I created some years ago dealing with interlacing aesthetic: >

Re: [Frameworks] History question

Agreed. Peace. Tim Sent from my iPhone On Jun 26, 2016, at 2:26 PM, Fred Camper > wrote: Cancel my last post. It's been pointed out that you were not replying to me, sorry. I don't need to get more involved in all this! Fred Camper Chicago

Re: [Frameworks] History question

"Attack"? What are you even talking about? I believe the OP was referring to the Vimeo description being a "provocation," not your response. I, on the other hand, thought your tone in the original reply was definitely cranky and judging by this follow-up, you're still having a bad day. Sorry

Re: [Frameworks] History question

Cancel my last post. It's been pointed out that you were not replying to me, sorry. I don't need to get more involved in all this! Fred Camper Chicago On 6/26/2016 2:42 PM, Gutenko, Gregory wrote: Provocation. Works for Trump. But so far we had not been directed to any clips of

Re: [Frameworks] texts on interlacing

Hello Ben, Here's a video I created some years ago dealing with interlacing aesthetic: http://www.albertalcoz.com/2012/11/send-me-copy.html It was done repeating some frames where the interlace images were overemphasized. Albert On Sun, Jun 26, 2016 at 4:42 PM, Gene Youngblood

Re: [Frameworks] History question

On 6/26/2016 2:42 PM, Gutenko, Gregory wrote: Provocation. Works for Trump I'm not going to descend into this kind of ad hominem attack. The "first" question has long been a problem in film history, and I tried to indicate why. Fred Camper Chicago

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Provocation. Works for Trump. But so far we had not been directed to any clips of "streaky-lights car POV" footage prior to 1975. That's why the question is out there. Happy to revise when 'fact-checked'. / < DV > Gregory Gutenko / On Jun 26, 2016, at 2:04 PM, Francisco

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If you are not sure it was the ''first time ever'' why claim it in the Vimeo video? 2016-06-26 14:17 GMT-04:00 Tim Halloran : > Cranky Camper. > > Regardless, a pretty cool little film Gregory. > > Tim > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jun 26, 2016, at 9:08 AM, Fred Camper

Re: [Frameworks] History question

Cranky Camper. Regardless, a pretty cool little film Gregory. Tim Sent from my iPhone On Jun 26, 2016, at 9:08 AM, Fred Camper > wrote: The question of who was first with an effect is the most unanswerable question in film history. You would

Re: [Frameworks] History question

Ah ha! Thanks! I never seen this film. From: FrameWorks [frameworks-boun...@jonasmekasfilms.com] on behalf of Pip Chodorov [framewo...@re-voir.com] Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2016 11:08 AM To: Experimental Film Discussion List Subject: Re: [Frameworks]

Re: [Frameworks] History question

Henri Chomette did some of that in 1925 although he used train tunnels - not sure if headlights were bright then (see around the two-minute mark and around 5:40 of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcQdU94mJs4). There are also some bits in Man Ray's Retour à la raison from 1923. At 15:42

Re: [Frameworks] History question

The question of who was first with an effect is the most unanswerable question in film history. You would have to see every film ever made, including all the ones that have been lost, to answer it. Even if you could answer it, what would the answer mean? Perhaps the first was a 1937 film by

Re: [Frameworks] Peter Hutton

I carry this indelible image of Peter: we were walking down a street on a blustery day here in Santa Fe, deep in passionate discussion, when we came upon a huge Cottonwood tree swaying majestically in the wind, as if in slow motion. It was an arresting sight. We paused for a while then walked

[Frameworks] History question

Hello All, A historical question: What was the first film to do a time-exposed single-frame sequence from a car/driver POV? Koyaanisqatsi popularized the effect in 1983, but when was it first done? I worked on a student film in 1975 called Nervous on the Road that featured this technique at

Re: [Frameworks] texts on interlacing

Woody Vasulka pioneered these kinds of investigations vasulka.org > On Jun 26, 2016, at 6:18 AM, Laura McGough wrote: > > Richard Dienst talks a bit about scanning as an aesthetic in "Still Life in > Real Time: Theory After Television" > > Best,

Re: [Frameworks] texts on interlacing

Richard Dienst talks a bit about scanning as an aesthetic in "Still Life in Real Time: Theory After Television" Best, Laura > On Jun 26, 2016, at 5:00 AM, Ben Gwilliam > wrote: > > Hi all, > > Just wondering if anyone knows of any critical texts on video

Re: [Frameworks] Peter Hutton

This is a very sad news. Peter Hutton will always continue to live through his films. 2016-06-26 13:26 GMT+02:00 Benjamin Léon : > It's a very sad news. ​I'm shocked. > > 2016-06-26 4:02 GMT+02:00 o...@thenowcorporation.com < > o...@thenowcorporation.com>: > >> I'm sorry to

Re: [Frameworks] Peter Hutton

It's a very sad news. ​I'm shocked. 2016-06-26 4:02 GMT+02:00 o...@thenowcorporation.com < o...@thenowcorporation.com>: > I'm sorry to hear this. my condolences. > > Owen's mobile device > > > > On Jun 25, 2016, at 9:16 PM, Scott MacDonald > wrote: > > *It's hard to

[Frameworks] texts on interlacing

Hi all, Just wondering if anyone knows of any critical texts on video interlacing aesthetics or similar texts that deal with substrate artifact in digital video. Cheers Ben thosesoundsbetween.co.UK timeinbetweenspace.tumblrcom it takes as long as it takes