Re: [Frameworks] projector-less film loops

[Mary Stark]

Hi Rebecca,

I have been working with 16mm film as installation using loops, fresnel lenses 
and film as a sculptural material. If you are interested please look at my 
website and blog 
http://www.marystark.co.uk/
http://interwovenpractices.co.uk/

Best wishes,

Mary Stark

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On 17 Dec 2013, at 20:27, Jonathan Walley wall...@denison.edu wrote:

 Rebecca, et. al.,
 
 After re-reading your post, and reading Scott's response, it strikes me that 
 you may have been looking for information about early (e.g. silent, 
 primitive?) film systems that involved viewing 16mm film without lens or 
 projector. Your use of the term installation made me assume expanded 
 cinema, film installation, etc., but then there's your reference to the 
 zoetrope, which suggests that you're looking for something further back in 
 history. Of course, the zoetrope did not use film of any kind. What's more, 
 16mm film wasn't invented until 1923, by which time projection - with lenses 
 - was, of course, standard practice in film exhibition. I'm not aware of any 
 viewing systems for 16mm that don't employ at least lenses: flatbed editors 
 don't quite project the images, at least not in the same way a projector 
 does, and devices like Moviolas and Moviscopes don't involve projection - the 
 film image is simply magnified into a viewer, not unlike the Kinetsoscope. 
 But these systems are used to edit film reels, not to show loops. And they 
 all use lenses. 
 
 Specifying your research project would be helpful - can we have a little more 
 detail?
 Jonathan
 
 Dr. Jonathan Walley
 Associate Professor
 Department of Cinema
 Denison University
 wall...@denison.edu
 
 
 On Dec 17, 2013, at 12:44 PM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
 
 Well, the first loop system was the Edison Kinetoscope but that was 35mm..
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[Frameworks] 16mm magnetic film for audio

[Mary Stark]

Hello frameworkers,

I’ve been given some reels of 16mm magnetic film and was wondering if anyone 
knows whether it’s possible to remove the magnetic coating somehow? Have tried 
bleach and water which has done nothing. 

Thanks,

Mary 

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Re: [Frameworks] 16mm magnetic film for audio

[Mary Stark]

Thanks Scott I’ll try the acetone, that’s basically nail varnish remover? 
Francisco, the base is clear as I’ve scratched at it with a pin. Wondering if 
there are chemicals which will remove the coating like when bleach can just 
remove the emulsion from film, but not sure what the magnetic coating is 
actually made of...

Mary

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On 21 Mar 2014, at 13:51, Scott Dorsey klu...@panix.com wrote:

 It's designed to be as hard as possible to remove the coating as possible,
 though you could try acetone if it's polyester-based stuff.  If it's acetate,
 acetone will dissolve the base.
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Re: [Frameworks] FCPX Plugin to remove dust and dirt?

[Mary Stark]

The clone stamp in After Effects removes marks here’s a tutorial 
https://www.video2brain.com/en/lessons/removing-an-object-with-clone-stamp

Mary Stark


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On 26 Mar 2014, at 20:06, Francisco Torres fjtorre...@gmail.com wrote:

 After Effects had a trick for that, choosing an area of the frame and clean 
 it with motion tracking, dont know if FC could do anything like that.
 
 
 On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 8:28 PM, Chris Freeman 
 christopherbriggsfree...@gmail.com wrote:
 I shot some footage with my DSLR but had some dirt on my lens.  Anyone have 
 experience / recommendations with Final Cut X plugins that will remove it?
 
 Since it was on the lens, it's (possibly) different than removing dirt from 
 film scans, since that only appears for a few frames.  This is constantly in 
 the shot.
 
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[Frameworks] 16mm colour prints from negs

[mary stark]

Hello frameworkers,

Is there anywhere in the UK that make 16mm colour prints from colour negative 
film?

Many thanks,
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Re: [Frameworks] Traveling With Photo Chemistry

[Mary Stark]

I managed to take unopened photographic chemicals packed in a suitcase that 
went in the aeroplane hold from Manchester to Barcelona.

Check with your airline. The other option I considered if you have time is to 
buy stuff online and have it posted to the address you will be at abroad…

Good luck!

Mary

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On 23 May 2014, at 19:25, Heath Iverson h...@st-andrews.ac.uk wrote:

 Hi Frameworkers,
 
 I'm wondering if anyone has experience with air travel and photo chemistry. 
 I'll be flying from the UK to New York next week and I have E-6 3 bath kit 
 that I'd like to bring with me. Obviously, I can't carry it on; however, 
 given its toxicity, I wonder if the airlines are even going to allow me to 
 check the stuff. Any thoughts?
 
 Best,
 
 Heath
 
 -- 
 Heath Iverson
 PhD Student, Film Studies
 University of St Andrews
 99 North Street
 St. Andrews, KY16 9AD
 Scotland, UK
 
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[Frameworks] 16mm gang sync machine

[mary stark]

Hi there,
I'm looking for a 16mm sync machine so I can contact print film. Just wondering 
if anyone in the UK has got one for sale or spare?
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Re: [Frameworks] 16mm gang sync machine

[mary stark]

Yes Francisco this is exactly what I am trying to set up! 

www.marystark.co.ukTel: 07828450979

Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2015 11:17:47 -0800
From: dominic.anger...@gmail.com
To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] 16mm gang sync machine

I did it with an enlargement lamp set over the synchronizer and a motorized 
rewind. I did tests, and alas so will you since there are numerous factors 
involved, the brightness of light, the speed of movement, film stock being 
used. This is a very complicated process in the beginning but you get good 
results for much less than a lab. Its a poor man's way of printing.
On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 10:30 AM, Francisco Torres <fjtorre...@gmail.com> wrote:
smoothly and evenly i guess... but how can you know if it got enough exposure? 
is there an optimal time per frame? sorry for asking so many questions...
2015-11-03 14:25 GMT-04:00 Dominic Angerame <dominic.anger...@gmail.com>:
One can, at least I have, you need to bi pak raw stock with the film you want 
to print and shine a light on top of the synchronizer in a dark room and try to 
smoothly wind the film over the sprockets evenly. It takes practice, etc.
On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 10:15 AM, Francisco Torres <fjtorre...@gmail.com> wrote:
you can contact print with a synchronizer?
2015-11-03 12:27 GMT-04:00 Dominic Angerame <dominic.anger...@gmail.com>:
are you talking about a synchronizer?
On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 10:08 AM, mary stark <maryst...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:



Hi there,
I'm looking for a 16mm sync machine so I can contact print film. Just wondering 
if anyone in the UK has got one for sale or spare?
Best wishes,
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Re: [Frameworks] 16mm gang sync machine

[mary stark]

I'll try and find one in the UK first thanks. Good to know just in case.

www.marystark.co.ukTel: 07828450979

Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2015 16:14:45 -0400
From: cbifi...@gmail.com
To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com; frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] 16mm gang sync machine


  I have several, but shipping from Canada is likely pricey.



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from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Rogers network. 


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Yes Francisco this is exactly what I am trying to set up! 

www.marystark.co.ukTel: 07828450979

Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2015 11:17:47 -0800
From: dominic.anger...@gmail.com
To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] 16mm gang sync machine

I did it with an enlargement lamp set over the synchronizer and a motorized 
rewind. I did tests, and alas so will you since there are numerous factors 
involved, the brightness of light, the speed of movement, film stock being 
used. This is a very complicated process in the beginning but you get good 
results for much less than a lab. Its a poor man's way of printing.
On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 10:30 AM, Francisco Torres <fjtorre...@gmail.com> wrote:
smoothly and evenly i guess... but how can you know if it got enough exposure? 
is there an optimal time per frame? sorry for asking so many questions...
2015-11-03 14:25 GMT-04:00 Dominic Angerame <dominic.anger...@gmail.com>:
One can, at least I have, you need to bi pak raw stock with the film you want 
to print and shine a light on top of the synchronizer in a dark room and try to 
smoothly wind the film over the sprockets evenly. It takes practice, etc.
On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 10:15 AM, Francisco Torres <fjtorre...@gmail.com> wrote:
you can contact print with a synchronizer?
2015-11-03 12:27 GMT-04:00 Dominic Angerame <dominic.anger...@gmail.com>:
are you talking about a synchronizer?
On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 10:08 AM, mary stark <maryst...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:



Hi there,
I'm looking for a 16mm sync machine so I can contact print film. Just wondering 
if anyone in the UK has got one for sale or spare?
Best wishes,
Mary
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Re: [Frameworks] out of date e6 chemicals

[Mary Stark]

Hi Jason the chemical concentrates have been opened and about a quarter
used I think...

I can run some tests but the film stock is also out of date so it's not
going to be straightforward!

On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 10:00 PM, Jason Halprin  wrote:

> Karen is definitley right. They may not be perfect*, but the unexpected
> errors can be very nice and very usable.
>
> Are you talking about a properly stored, unopened concentrate? Most
> likely, it will be just fine, with minimal shift from normal. If it was
> opened and has air in the container, it will be partially oxidized and
> weakened.
>
> -Jason Halprin
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[Frameworks] out of date e6 chemicals

[Mary Stark]

I have a set of Tetenol E6 chemical concentrate which went out of date 10
months ago.

The instructions say they go out of date after 6 months but I’m just
wondering if anyone has ever tried using out of date E6 chemicals with any
results?

I’m also buying new chemicals but wondering about the other set before I
take it to the safe waste disposal.

Very best,

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Re: [Frameworks] out of date e6 chemicals

[Mary Stark]

Thanks very much everyone for the encouragement and info

Mary

On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 10:15 PM, Jason Halprin  wrote:

> Yes, you can process any VNF film (like 7239) in E6 chemistry. Here's a
> forum discussion on adjustments/timing:
>
> http://www.filmshooting.com/scripts/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1=9893
>
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Re: [Frameworks] out of date e6 chemicals

[Mary Stark]

hey Steve...maybe not the family Christmas movie then. but sounds like fun
otherwise!

On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 10:06 PM, Steve Polta  wrote:

> I once lucked out and had some *amazing* results with expired E6: amazing
> color solarization throughout the roles and this weird flat purple stuff
> that took over all the dark areas. Can't guarantee your results but it
> could be very exciting. Obviously if you are after something that appears
> realistic you would be disappointed but otherwise it can be very
> interesting...!
>
> Steve Polta
>
> On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 2:00 PM, Jason Halprin 
> wrote:
>
>> Karen is definitley right. They may not be perfect*, but the unexpected
>> errors can be very nice and very usable.
>>
>> Are you talking about a properly stored, unopened concentrate? Most
>> likely, it will be just fine, with minimal shift from normal. If it was
>> opened and has air in the container, it will be partially oxidized and
>> weakened.
>>
>> -Jason Halprin
>>
>>
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Re: [Frameworks] out of date e6 chemicals

[Mary Stark]

While we're on the subject does anyone know if EASTMAN EKTACHROME Film 160D
7239 processable in E6 chemicals?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Kodak-Ektachrome-160-Type-A-SOUND-Color-Movie-Film-Super-8-expired-1988-/151951907206?hash=item23610a1986:g:OTEAAOSwpRRWmV~m

On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 10:03 PM, Mary Stark <mstark...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Jason the chemical concentrates have been opened and about a quarter
> used I think...
>
> I can run some tests but the film stock is also out of date so it's not
> going to be straightforward!
>
> On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 10:00 PM, Jason Halprin <jihalp...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Karen is definitley right. They may not be perfect*, but the unexpected
>> errors can be very nice and very usable.
>>
>> Are you talking about a properly stored, unopened concentrate? Most
>> likely, it will be just fine, with minimal shift from normal. If it was
>> opened and has air in the container, it will be partially oxidized and
>> weakened.
>>
>> -Jason Halprin
>>
>>
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Re: [Frameworks] out of date e6 chemicals

[Mary Stark]

wow thanks for that Karen!
I will give it a go :)





On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 9:47 PM, Karen Johannesen <
karenajohanne...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I've used out of date E-6 chemicals many times. Often when the chemicals
> start to expire all kinds of wonderful unexpected thing happen including
> color shifts. I'd give it a try!
>
> Best,
> Karen
>
> On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 3:41 PM, Mary Stark <mstark...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I have a set of Tetenol E6 chemical concentrate which went out of date 10
>> months ago.
>>
>> The instructions say they go out of date after 6 months but I’m just
>> wondering if anyone has ever tried using out of date E6 chemicals with any
>> results?
>>
>> I’m also buying new chemicals but wondering about the other set before I
>> take it to the safe waste disposal.
>>
>> Very best,
>>
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Re: [Frameworks] 16mm to HD transfer in Leeds / Manchester / York?

[Mary Stark]

Hi Amir,

I second Nicky’s iDailies vote, not sure what the North West Film Archive
charge but they don’t really offer a service to artists, they are more
concerned with conservation of films shot in the North West of England.

I have also recently heard of http://www.gaugefilm.co.uk/ who are based in
Birmingham but I have no experience of the quality of their telecine
service.

Good luck!

Mary

On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 5:04 PM, Amir Husak  wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> I am looking to transfer two rolls of color 16mm film to HD (Apple ProRes
> or similar) in Leeds / Manchester / York area. Any info would be
> appreciated.
> Thanks!
>
> Regards,
>
> Amir
>
>
>
> ++
> a m i r . h u s a k
> educator, filmmaker and media hacktivist
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[Frameworks] Film Performance Event in Toronto at CineCycle Thursday 14th July

[Mary Stark]

Mary Stark and David Chatton Barker, artists based in Manchester, UK, are
visiting Toronto. Please join us from 7.30pm for a night of film
performance and sonic spells at the one and only CineCycle, the especially
specially fantastic cinema venue at 129 Spadina Avenue. We'll show
individual and collaborative films and performance works made over the last
two years, as well as fresh from the processing buckets of this year’s
Independent Imaging Retreat, otherwise known as Phil Hoffman’s Film Farm.
It will be a special treat to show some of our work on Martin Heath’s hand
crank 35mm projector which is 104 years old!! All this for just $5.

*More info and links….*

*Mary’s artist filmmaking practice is specifically informed by previous
training in textile practice. Since 2012 Mary has been exploring the
filmstrip as fabric through 16mm film performances with optical sound. Mary
works physically with a deconstructed skeletal frame of cinema, handling
reels of film sculpturally, involving unspooled film projectors to explore
the cinematic apparatus in relation to the human body, light and shadow. In
2014 she undertook an artist residency at LIFT, the Liaison of Independent
Filmmakers of Toronto. Recent shows include Contact Festival of New
Experimental Film and Video in London, UK, and a commissioned cameraless
35mm film in response to the Delia Derbyshire Archive. *

*David works with alchemical processes transmuting the mundane into the
mystical, combining mechanical and natural forms through analogue film,
homemade instruments and performance. Since 2011 David has led the
nationally acclaimed project Folklore Tapes encompassing experimental
music, film and performance. He has curated events and performed at the
Arnolfini Gallery, Café Oto and Spacex Gallery, as well as organizing a
sell-out national tour and programming a storytelling tent at Port Eliot
Festival. Early this year he undertook an international residency on the
island of Oro, Finland, investigating the changing landscape through
filmmaking and performance.*

http://www.marystark.co.uk/

http://www.folkloretapes.co.uk/

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[Frameworks] 16mm Elf Projectors NT-1 series in Berlin or Halle

[Mary Stark]

Hello Frameworkers,

In October I will be performing at Radio Revolten International Festival of
Radio Art in Halle, Germany

http://radiorevolten.net/en/

I will be flying to Berlin and then getting a bus to Halle. Does anyone
know of an artist or organisation in that area that might be able to hire
or lend at least one ELF 16mm film projector?


Many thanks,

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[Frameworks] Cassette and Digital Release of Film Performance: Ghosts of Industries Past

[Mary Stark]

Hello frameworkers,

Fractal Meat Cuts has recently released a recording of one of my film
performances, a very special one because it was the first time I explored
sound and film performance. Perhaps you were there in the audience?

Summoning Ghosts of Industries Past rouses distant voices and clanking
whirring obsolete machines amongst the dusty rafters and uneven floorboards
of a former cotton mill in the city centre of Manchester. Loops of 16mm
film showing men and women working in textile factories were given a live
soundscape of industrial weaving machinery and songs relating to work with
cloth and thread. Part of the performance involved mixing live with 16mm
film loops of moving images and optical sounds created from fabric, stitch
and thread. In addition to optical sound, the performance repeatedly
emphasised sound as a physical, material format: I sang a Lace Tell and
played the keyboard, as well as playing songs on vinyl records and a dub
plate recording of weaving machinery at Quarry Bank Mill. The event was
hosted by the Manchester based Film Material collective and took place on
26th February 2015.

Fractal Meat Cuts is a label run by Graham Dunning for short run and
handmade releases. Started for self-releases, moving through
collaborations, 2016 marked a move to releasing recordings made by other
artists as well.

This release is available as a limited edition cassette with a digital
download or as a digital download alone. The release includes sound
recordings, photographs and typewritten programme notes giving personal
insight into the performance and the ideas I was interested in exploring.

https://fractalmeat.bandcamp.com/album/summoning-ghosts-of-industries-past

I hope this message finds you all in the high spirits of summer sunshine.

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[Frameworks] Record release by artist filmmaker Mary Stark

[Mary Stark]

I'd like to let frameworkers know about a record that has just been
released relating to a film performance I've been working on for what seems
like aeons of time!


Film as Fabric is the third release in the new Industrial Folklore Tapes
series and is constructed from live recordings of the performance tilted
‘Film as Fabric', which examines relationships between textile practice,
filmmaking and sound. From 2012-2016, my studio practice and numerous
performances took place in Rogue Artist Studios at Crusader Mill in
Manchester, formerly a production site of machinery for the cotton industry
and a garment works. The performance has been enriched by exploration of
Lancashire’s industrial heritage and my family history, which includes
workers in cotton mills and expert needlewomen.


Film as Fabric repeatedly involves sound in physical formats through
optical sound, work song and recordings of weaving machinery on vinyl
records, the amplified mechanisms of the film projector and sewing machine,
and my voice. The performance highlights the now obsolete industrial
practice of linear film editing and shows photochemical film as a
sculptural reflective fabric, measured and worn on the body, cut with
scissors and stitched on the sewing machine. Through the filmmaking
technology of optical sound, fabric and stitch patterns are transformed
into noise, referring to a lesser-known sonic world associated with textile
production. The recordings are of live performances at Full of Noises
Festival 2015, and in 2016 at Islington Mill, Manchester Histories Festival
and Radio Revolten International Festival of Radio Art.


The release is limited to only 250 editions and comprises of a ten inch
record in gatefold sleeve with a twelve page black and white machine sewn
booklet and a 16mm black and white patterned fabric photogram.  It is
priced at £15.00 plus shipping.


http://www.folkloretapes.co.uk/product/industrial-folklore-tapes-vol-iii-film-as-fabric-mary-stark


The Wire magazine recently featured the release in their print issue 414
and shared a video I made at Quarry Bank Mill of industrial textile
machinery that informed the development of the performance
https://www.thewire.co.uk/video/mary-stark-shares-some-visual-research
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[Frameworks] Linear film editing

[Mary Stark]

Dear Frameworks Friends.

I'm interested in 'linear film editing', as in cutting and splicing film at
an edit bench or Steenbeck or however you do it. I'd like to know more
about artist filmmakers who continue to edit film physically whilst also
living in this digital era!

I've attached a questionnaire for folks to fill in if you would be so kind.
Email responses to maryst...@hotmail.co.uk

Warmest wishes,

Mary


Linear film editing questionnaire.docx
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