Re: [Frameworks] History question

Amazing! On Sun, Jun 26, 2016 at 12:08 PM, Pip Chodorov wrote: > Henri Chomette did some of that in 1925 although he used train tunnels - not > sure if headlights were bright then (see around the two-minute mark and > around 5:40 of

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ntal Film Discussion List <frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com> > *Subject:* Re: [Frameworks] History question > > in the 60s we all would shoot elapsed time single exposures of lights at > night either moving the camera while exposing or letting the movement of > the car or whate

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t; Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 12:09 AM > To: Experimental Film Discussion List > Subject: Re: [Frameworks] History question > > in the 60s we all would shoot elapsed time single exposures of lights at > night either moving the camera while exposing or letting the movement of

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. >> That makes three cranky old schoolers. >> Colinet André >> Brussels >> >> From: Myron Ort <mailto:z...@sonic.net> >> Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 12:09 AM >> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <mailto:frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com>

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ree cranky old schoolers. > Colinet André > Brussels > > From: Myron Ort <mailto:z...@sonic.net> > Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 12:09 AM > To: Experimental Film Discussion List <mailto:frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com> > Subject: Re: [Frameworks] History question > &

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I agree with Myron and Fred. That makes three cranky old schoolers. Colinet André Brussels From: Myron Ort Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 12:09 AM To: Experimental Film Discussion List Subject: Re: [Frameworks] History question in the 60s we all would shoot elapsed time single exposures of lights

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in the 60s we all would shoot elapsed time single exposures of lights at night either moving the camera while exposing or letting the movement of the car or whatever make the streaks, usually superimposing over other stuff. Not necessarily long term time lapse requiring a timer though... Ed

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Agreed. Peace. Tim Sent from my iPhone On Jun 26, 2016, at 2:26 PM, Fred Camper > wrote: Cancel my last post. It's been pointed out that you were not replying to me, sorry. I don't need to get more involved in all this! Fred Camper Chicago

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"Attack"? What are you even talking about? I believe the OP was referring to the Vimeo description being a "provocation," not your response. I, on the other hand, thought your tone in the original reply was definitely cranky and judging by this follow-up, you're still having a bad day. Sorry

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Cancel my last post. It's been pointed out that you were not replying to me, sorry. I don't need to get more involved in all this! Fred Camper Chicago On 6/26/2016 2:42 PM, Gutenko, Gregory wrote: Provocation. Works for Trump. But so far we had not been directed to any clips of

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On 6/26/2016 2:42 PM, Gutenko, Gregory wrote: Provocation. Works for Trump I'm not going to descend into this kind of ad hominem attack. The "first" question has long been a problem in film history, and I tried to indicate why. Fred Camper Chicago

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Provocation. Works for Trump. But so far we had not been directed to any clips of "streaky-lights car POV" footage prior to 1975. That's why the question is out there. Happy to revise when 'fact-checked'. / < DV > Gregory Gutenko / On Jun 26, 2016, at 2:04 PM, Francisco

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If you are not sure it was the ''first time ever'' why claim it in the Vimeo video? 2016-06-26 14:17 GMT-04:00 Tim Halloran : > Cranky Camper. > > Regardless, a pretty cool little film Gregory. > > Tim > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jun 26, 2016, at 9:08 AM, Fred Camper

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Cranky Camper. Regardless, a pretty cool little film Gregory. Tim Sent from my iPhone On Jun 26, 2016, at 9:08 AM, Fred Camper > wrote: The question of who was first with an effect is the most unanswerable question in film history. You would

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] History question Henri Chomette did some of that in 1925 although he used train tunnels - not sure if headlights were bright then (see around the two-minute mark and around 5:40 of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcQdU94mJs4). There are also some bits in Man Ray's Retour à la raison from 1923. At 15

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Henri Chomette did some of that in 1925 although he used train tunnels - not sure if headlights were bright then (see around the two-minute mark and around 5:40 of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcQdU94mJs4). There are also some bits in Man Ray's Retour à la raison from 1923. At 15:42

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The question of who was first with an effect is the most unanswerable question in film history. You would have to see every film ever made, including all the ones that have been lost, to answer it. Even if you could answer it, what would the answer mean? Perhaps the first was a 1937 film by

[Frameworks] History question

Hello All, A historical question: What was the first film to do a time-exposed single-frame sequence from a car/driver POV? Koyaanisqatsi popularized the effect in 1983, but when was it first done? I worked on a student film in 1975 called Nervous on the Road that featured this technique at

Re: [Frameworks] History question about Hallelujah the Hills

BO made the optical effects, such as the white frames within the frame that appear in some scenes. Jonas later used them again, probably for Award Presentation to Andy Warhol, to have each frame reprinted twice. At 11:09 -0400 4/04/14, Michael Betancourt wrote: In doing some unrelated

[Frameworks] History question about Hallelujah the Hills

In doing some unrelated research into the animator Byron Rabbitt, I ran across a mention of Hallelujah the Hills and the NY documentary production company BO Film Specialists, Inc. What did BO do on the film? Did they produce its titles? Michael Betancourt Savannah, GA USA michaelbetancourt.com