Re: [Frameworks] What are the 3 Essential Films that you would show Artists on their first foray into the Moving Image Realm ?

Although your question is for a specific purpose, the implications open up a broader and deeper debate than choosing three films. Having been in higher education for a long time and shown many works to different groups of students (fine art in particular), certain works have come to the fore:

Re: [Frameworks] Response to Gene Youngblood

More critical debate about what films to recommend to be introduced to, and discussed and less affected fallacies. But … Sam Taylor-Wood - glossy Warhol derived, made easy for the international art market, and what has she made recently? that great call to feminism with her 50 shades of what?

Re: [Frameworks] Andrew Noren

Interestingly I saw the LFMC print of Kodak Ghost Poems as a student at Maidstone college of art in the early 1970s, it was in good condition then. I’ve not forgotten it (obviously). Rob On 12 Jun 2015, at 16:19, Rise Hall-Noren wrote: > Dear Gene, > > To clarify the record, Eastman Kodak

Re: [Frameworks] countryside film

Luis Bunuel - Las Hurdes (land without bread) 1933 Joris Ivens - New Earth 1933 (not the version that has the final section censored) Pare Lorentz - The Plough that Broke the Plains 1935 Rob On 13 Jul 2015, at 09:03, franco base wrote: > Hi > I'm looking for experimental films where the idyl

Re: [Frameworks] Kid-friendly films?

Jan Svankmajer - Alice 1988. maybe more of an adult friendly children’s film though my daughter when 5, watched it over and over (though now 28 and in retrospect wonders whether it was suitable) Rob On 13 Jul 2015, at 13:54, elizabeth mcmaon wrote: > Much from Mary Ellen Bute could be cons

Re: [Frameworks] films about solfege

Although not so much solfege as such but more construction of notes through recording/editing systems Joanna Millett: Notes 1986 (video) http://lux.org.uk/collection/artists/joanna-millett Joanna Millett: 85 Piano Notes 2001 (video & sound installation) http://www.jomillett.co.uk/•-85-pian

Re: [Frameworks] Films about glass and light

Slow Glass - John Smith Rob On 3 Feb 2016, at 03:32, Warren Cockerham wrote: > GLASS (1998) by Leighton Pierce > > On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 9:19 PM, Sheri Wills wrote: > Hello Everyone, > > As part of a celebration of the 50th anniversary of the glass department at > RISD for next year, we

[Frameworks] Cinestill DF 96 Monobath

Has anyone used Cinestill DF 96 Monobath? If so any comments or advice? Thanks Rob ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks

Re: [Frameworks] Cinestill DF 96 Monobath

Thanks Scott, really helpful, I will be using rewind/bucket. Got some on order now! Rob > On 7 Mar 2019, at 19:52, Scott Dorsey wrote: > > I have not but I have used other monobaths before. They are convenient, > but allow no control over gamma or really any part of the characteristic > curv

Re: [Frameworks] academics and religion

“Thank you Jesus for the Eternal Present” Owen Land / George Landow religion, advertising and art! Rob > On 16 May 2019, at 07:50, Shuhita Bhattacharjee wrote: > > Dear Bernie, > > Many, many thanks for these suggestions. They are incredibly useful. I am > working on a monograph on Posts

Re: [Frameworks] Interviews on Digital Filmmaking and Impacts

Hi Tarik I’m sure you know that there are a number of Turkish experimental filmmakers working, I saw some films at Alchemy this year : https://alchemyfilmandarts.org.uk/2019/out-from-turkey/ Far better than referencing boring US featur

Re: [Frameworks] multiple exposures on bolex

Hi Jimmy, It could be that the ‘takes’ are not long enough for the spool to take-up the slack so that the loose film then accumulates … or there is something wrong with the take-up spool or drive of your camera. Rob > On 10 Oct 2019, at 14:17, jimmyschaus1 . wrote: > > Hi all, > > Recentl

Re: [Frameworks] Original soundtrack recordings of Avant-Garde films

Many of the sound from Jeff Keen’s films re on JEFF KEEN: NOISE ART on Trunk Records (CD). It would be good if Steve Reich’s track for Robert Nelson's Oh Dem Watermelons and Brian Eno’s for Malcolm LeGrice’s Berlin Horse was were available. I’d be interested to hear of suggestions for othe

Re: [Frameworks] Independent research- looking for recommendations

With Jo Millett I programmed the following for a fund-raiserfor Freedom from Torture in Cornwall in 2014. So Much I want to Say by Mona Hatoum 1983, 5 minutes 10/65: Selbstverstümmelung Kurt Kren and Gunter Brus: 1964, 3 minutes Sine by Gillian Dyson 1997 5 minutes Under Seige by Mona H

Re: [Frameworks] Luther Price RIP

In the late nineties I programmed regular screenings at the Hull Film Theatre (Yorkshire England) while teaching at the art school there. I showed a compilation of new American films (from the coop) including Sodom. This was a public event and the cinema was run by the city council and they were

Re: [Frameworks] Films or videos with one person playing all the parts

Portrait of Jason - Shirley Clarks Film - Samual Becket But then why have anyone ? There are too many talking films in any case. Rob > On 23 Jun 2020, at 22:21, Joel Schlemowitz wrote: > > Hi all, > > A question relating to students creating videos with limited access to other > people due

Re: [Frameworks] Experimental films using Astronomy & Satellite imagery - recommendations

Erth John Latham UK 1971 "A journey from outer space to the centre of the world, in which consciousness itself is revealed as a form sedimented history. With distant views of the approaching Earth punctuated by black and silence, light years are compressed into a cosmic imaginary.” Lux Moon 69

Re: [Frameworks] Ektachrome Video News Film

I used some 20 year old 7240 & 7239, stored really badly, processed ok by film & photo UK, some colour shift, and more grainy. Worked fine for my purpose (“Remote” 2007). Rob On 15 Sep 2016, at 23:23, Brigid McCaffrey wrote: > Dear frameworkers, > > I just acquired about 5k feet of Ektachro

Re: [Frameworks] "Husbands" and "Wives"

Myself & Jo Millett: Miller & Sweep 16mm 1982 Field Recordings: Goonhilly SD Video 2012 RootedOut 2 X 16mm live, sound 2017 (in progress) for ReRooted Hull17 (March 25th 2017) Rob Gawthrop On 10 Feb 2017, at 15:59, minou norouzi wrote: > Dear Frameworkers, > > I'm

Re: [Frameworks] Lying as a theme

Shirley Clarke "The Connection” 1961 Rob On 22 Feb 2017, at 01:49, Morgan Hoyle-Combs wrote: > Hello > > Does anyone know of any film (essay/diary/doc) where lying is a theme or the > main focus? I wondered if there was anything that ran among these lines: > > 1. The audience is well aware

Re: [Frameworks] optical sound film screening

Coincidentally, I have a film called Film Noise, made by scratching t legnthways along the soundtrack area and picture area on 10ft of black film, then contact-printing, scratching again in the same place and repeating ten times (pos - neg - pos etc.) and joining all the sections together. Ro

Re: [Frameworks] Preservation Insanity / Brakhage & sound

Thanks for this. Knowing what the sources are for the sound of Fire of Waters is particularly interesting for me as previously I did not know these facts although there had been much conjecture. My reference to it in my article THUNDER & LIGHTNING Noise: Aesthetics and Audio-visual Avant-garde

Re: [Frameworks] Jazz Music and Avant-Garde Film

There is Ian Hugo’s ‘Jazz of Lights’ with Moondog and Anais Nin - though the music is by Bebe & Lois Barron rather than Jazz per se. Len Lye’s ‘Tal Farlow’ and comparatively more recent there are films that use free jazz & improvised music - worth reading this article in ‘The Wire’ (2015)

Re: [Frameworks] Experimental Films before 1910

Mark Apart from obvious Méliès & Zecca … some regressive historians have considered early films (sometimes insultingly described as primitive) based mainly on formal achievement ( the first close-up, edit etc.) or precursors of hollywood narrative (point of view, establishing shots etc.) and

Re: [Frameworks] Electronic Soundtracks for Avant-Garde Films

Tony Conrad ! On 21 Dec 2017, at 11:38, Albert Alcoz wrote: > Hello all, > > After asking about jazz > > ​ and​​ music an experimental film​, ​and feeling grateful for all the > answers​, I was wondering about the connections between early electronic > music and avant-garde film.​ ​Recentl

Re: [Frameworks] The Motorcycle Jacket

Pedagogue -Stuart Marshall > On 9 Jan 2018, at 23:37, Eric Theise wrote: > > Warhol's Blow Job and Vinyl, to name two. > > On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 3:23 PM, Albert Alcoz > wrote: > El lobby contra el cordero (1968) by José Antonio Maenza. > > > ​ > > On Tue, J

Re: [Frameworks] FrameWorks Digest, Vol 94, Issue 20

Screen tests: Andy Warhol Portrait of Jason: Shirley Clark Pause: Peter Kubelka Granny Is: Davide Larcher Almost Out: Jayne Parker Best Wishes Rob > On 26 Mar 2018, at 18:38, Katherine Bauer wrote: > > HI Frameworkers > I was wondering if anyone could give some titles of films that are "port

Re: [Frameworks] Developing Tanks for 16mm

Hi Lindsay What developer & dilution do you use? I’ve been getting rather poor results and it takes ages. Thanks Rob > On 11 Apr 2018, at 18:13, lindsay mcintyre wrote: > > Just in defence of the Morse G3 tank, I have several of these and I did all > my black and white neg processing in the

Re: [Frameworks] Developing Tanks for 16mm

; D19 for 7363, 7231 and most other B+W stocks > dev 5-7 mins > wash 5 mins > rapid fix 5-6 mins > wash 7 mins > > Best, > > Lindsay McIntyre > > > > On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 9:24 AM, Rob Gawthrop <mailto:r...@robgawthrop.co.uk>> wrote: > Hi Lind

Re: [Frameworks] 16mm Editing Equipment

eighteen foot rewinds! > On 3 Aug 2018, at 02:46, Dominic Angerame wrote: > > I have a matching pair of rewinds with universal shafts 18' long and stands > for them. They are listed on Ebay (323377271375) will sell at a discount to > filmmakers on Frameworks. Shipping extra. > > Also 16mm Mo

Re: [Frameworks] PF2 & 7302 questions

Best to do a clip-test as different batches of 7302 can have variable speeds. Rob > On 1 Oct 2018, at 11:21, Chris G wrote: > > Frameworkers, > > I'm trying to figure out a few things about these print stocks. Does anyone > know which is faster? An older B&W contact printer I'm using has two

Re: [Frameworks] avant-garde films about prostitution and pornography

Chantal Akerman Jeanne Dielman, 23 quai du Commerce, 1080 Bruxelles Birgit & Willem Hein Kali-Film Claudia Schillinger Between Rob > On 10 Jan 2019, at 09:54, Dinorah wrote: > > Hello Dorottya, > > I have a film that is made from hand-colored, hand-scratched porn dating from > the 1930’s

Re: [Frameworks] Exposure compensation

Hi Pablo I’ve always used 1/80th for 24fps (and adjusted accordingly for other fps) for an Arri ST it’s 1/48 Rob > On 28 Jan 2019, at 12:22, Pablo Marin wrote: > > Hi all, > > I'm about to shoot some 16mm film (color neg 50D) with a Bolex SB and was > wondering if I could borrow some of th

Re: [Frameworks] Expanded cinema and experimental music

Hi Esperanza Artists and academics/writers are not necessarily exclusive - thinking of myself, and Nicky Hamlyn in UK. The links with sound, noise, music & expanded cinema have all figured in aspects of both our teaching and writing. Best Wishes Rob > On 20 Feb 2019, at 10:18, Esperanza Coll

Re: [Frameworks] Tips on projecting S-8 for digital recording?

I concur with both pieces of advice, particularly having the projector as far back as possible and the camera further back from the projector. I would add that high grade A3 print paper works well as a low-budget screen. Rob > On 27 Feb 2019, at 13:03, Christopher Ball wrote: > > I had no pr