Re: [Frameworks] Hutton
Several years ago I attended a screening of Peter Hutton's work at the Massachusetts College of Art where Peter was present to answer questions. Being first trained as a still photographer, I couldn't help but think about the work of Alfred Steiglitz and his "Equivalents". Unfortunately, at the time I couldn't muster up the courage to ask him about it. Does anyone else have a similar reaction to his work? Bob On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 6:28 PM, Francisco Torres wrote: > ''. . It's like the > letters my father writes that I never answer.'' > ??? > > 2016-12-07 15:24 GMT-04:00 Re X : > >> Looking forward to the Hutton retrospective starting tonight in NYC!! It >> runs through Monday at Anthology. >> >> On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 2:20 PM, Mark Street wrote: >> >>> I can't imagine a screening more 'educational' (and edifying and >>> inspiring) than a series of Peter Hutton's films. >>> >>> Mark Street >>> www.markstreetfilms.com >>> >>> On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 11:52 AM, Shumona Goel >>> wrote: >>> As a student of Peter Hutton's, I remember distinctly, the first time I saw Peter's films projected on film. The auditorium was full and remained in pindrop silence through the evening length screening. One the many things that has stayed with me since that screening, was how he had shot a lamp post lit up at night. It was a long take, nothing moved. I think there was some snow in the frame. He shot at 8 frames per second and over time, you could see the movement of the light from the lamp post. Amazing. On Dec 4, 2016 10:11 PM, "Tim Halloran" wrote: > "...an act of love..." Nicely stated. > > Cheers. > > Tim > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Dec 3, 2016, at 12:11 PM, Chuck Kleinhans < > chuck...@northwestern.edu> wrote: > > > > 1. Hutton was an educator. > > > > 2. For most people, appreciation of “pure” art, of “extremely > disciplined style” is learned, not an inherent given of personality, > biology, or whatever. Taste is a social construction, > > > > 3. Educating potential viewers so they can have such art > experiences is (at least in part) an act of love, a social act that makes > this a better world. > > > > Chuck Kleinhans > > > > > > > >> On Dec 3, 2016, at 11:03 AM, Bernard Roddy > wrote: > >> > >> Frameworkers! I don't know who you are, but . . . It's like the > >> letters my father writes that I never answer. They just keep > coming, > >> even as I throw them directly in the trash. What, then, is it to > >> write someone, anyway? > >> > >> But Peter Hutton work screened at Nightingale. And I wonder, well: > >> > >> What does this have to do with higher education? That wasn't the > >> first thing, though. It was, is this still acceptable? It was > funny, > >> after the show - all totally silent - I had to think of André > Kertész > >> photographs. Is this even experimental? The girl in the seat in > >> front of me rested her head on her boyfriend's shoulder. It was an > >> experience resembling a service of some kind. The show was very > well > >> attended. I'm not just saying that. And understandably so, because > >> the experience is hard to get! It's in film, for god's sake, and it > >> couldn't possibly be otherwise - it's pure, it's committed to this > >> extremely disciplined style. You could think, you could wait, and > >> there was never anything to distract you . . (I'm thinking of the > >> river film and the Polish city film) . . But then there's that what > >> does this have to do with higher education? Can this really be part > >> of a course of study? That's where I lose it. > >> > >> Bernie > >> ___ > >> FrameWorks mailing list > >> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__mailman > -2Dmail5.webfaction.com_listinfo_frameworks&d=CwIGaQ&c=yHlS0 > 4HhBraes5BQ9ueu5zKhE7rtNXt_d012z2PA6ws&r=y2hybOip15_0MHKsie4 > eMM743nBh00sLtx4-ahFzSmg&m=JiLBS3AAMadfkJglpuKieU8d8imUaVDM2 > 1OEuoFovHA&s=rRyEkT_skAxGeL7iDIvr6Kv8yfS9v9XNUz2FXLcek3k&e= > > > > ___ > > FrameWorks mailing list > > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >>> >>> ___ >>> Fra
Re: [Frameworks] Hutton
''. . It's like the letters my father writes that I never answer.'' ??? 2016-12-07 15:24 GMT-04:00 Re X : > Looking forward to the Hutton retrospective starting tonight in NYC!! It > runs through Monday at Anthology. > > On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 2:20 PM, Mark Street wrote: > >> I can't imagine a screening more 'educational' (and edifying and >> inspiring) than a series of Peter Hutton's films. >> >> Mark Street >> www.markstreetfilms.com >> >> On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 11:52 AM, Shumona Goel >> wrote: >> >>> As a student of Peter Hutton's, I remember distinctly, the first time I >>> saw Peter's films projected on film. The auditorium was full and remained >>> in pindrop silence through the evening length screening. >>> >>> One the many things that has stayed with me since that screening, was >>> how he had shot a lamp post lit up at night. It was a long take, nothing >>> moved. I think there was some snow in the frame. He shot at 8 frames per >>> second and over time, you could see the movement of the light from the lamp >>> post. >>> >>> Amazing. >>> >>> On Dec 4, 2016 10:11 PM, "Tim Halloran" wrote: >>> "...an act of love..." Nicely stated. Cheers. Tim Sent from my iPad > On Dec 3, 2016, at 12:11 PM, Chuck Kleinhans < chuck...@northwestern.edu> wrote: > > 1. Hutton was an educator. > > 2. For most people, appreciation of “pure” art, of “extremely disciplined style” is learned, not an inherent given of personality, biology, or whatever. Taste is a social construction, > > 3. Educating potential viewers so they can have such art experiences is (at least in part) an act of love, a social act that makes this a better world. > > Chuck Kleinhans > > > >> On Dec 3, 2016, at 11:03 AM, Bernard Roddy wrote: >> >> Frameworkers! I don't know who you are, but . . . It's like the >> letters my father writes that I never answer. They just keep coming, >> even as I throw them directly in the trash. What, then, is it to >> write someone, anyway? >> >> But Peter Hutton work screened at Nightingale. And I wonder, well: >> >> What does this have to do with higher education? That wasn't the >> first thing, though. It was, is this still acceptable? It was funny, >> after the show - all totally silent - I had to think of André Kertész >> photographs. Is this even experimental? The girl in the seat in >> front of me rested her head on her boyfriend's shoulder. It was an >> experience resembling a service of some kind. The show was very well >> attended. I'm not just saying that. And understandably so, because >> the experience is hard to get! It's in film, for god's sake, and it >> couldn't possibly be otherwise - it's pure, it's committed to this >> extremely disciplined style. You could think, you could wait, and >> there was never anything to distract you . . (I'm thinking of the >> river film and the Polish city film) . . But then there's that what >> does this have to do with higher education? Can this really be part >> of a course of study? That's where I lose it. >> >> Bernie >> ___ >> FrameWorks mailing list >> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__mailman -2Dmail5.webfaction.com_listinfo_frameworks&d=CwIGaQ&c=yHlS0 4HhBraes5BQ9ueu5zKhE7rtNXt_d012z2PA6ws&r=y2hybOip15_0MHKs ie4eMM743nBh00sLtx4-ahFzSmg&m=JiLBS3AAMadfkJglpuKieU8d8imUaV DM21OEuoFovHA&s=rRyEkT_skAxGeL7iDIvr6Kv8yfS9v9XNUz2FXLcek3k&e= > > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >>> >>> ___ >>> FrameWorks mailing list >>> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >>> >>> >> >> ___ >> FrameWorks mailing list >> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >> >> > > > -- > > ... > > "Impotent beauty hates understanding...but beauty cannot act." > > > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > > ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Hutton
Looking forward to the Hutton retrospective starting tonight in NYC!! It runs through Monday at Anthology. On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 2:20 PM, Mark Street wrote: > I can't imagine a screening more 'educational' (and edifying and > inspiring) than a series of Peter Hutton's films. > > Mark Street > www.markstreetfilms.com > > On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 11:52 AM, Shumona Goel > wrote: > >> As a student of Peter Hutton's, I remember distinctly, the first time I >> saw Peter's films projected on film. The auditorium was full and remained >> in pindrop silence through the evening length screening. >> >> One the many things that has stayed with me since that screening, was how >> he had shot a lamp post lit up at night. It was a long take, nothing moved. >> I think there was some snow in the frame. He shot at 8 frames per second >> and over time, you could see the movement of the light from the lamp post. >> >> Amazing. >> >> On Dec 4, 2016 10:11 PM, "Tim Halloran" wrote: >> >>> "...an act of love..." Nicely stated. >>> >>> Cheers. >>> >>> Tim >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> > On Dec 3, 2016, at 12:11 PM, Chuck Kleinhans < >>> chuck...@northwestern.edu> wrote: >>> > >>> > 1. Hutton was an educator. >>> > >>> > 2. For most people, appreciation of “pure” art, of “extremely >>> disciplined style” is learned, not an inherent given of personality, >>> biology, or whatever. Taste is a social construction, >>> > >>> > 3. Educating potential viewers so they can have such art experiences >>> is (at least in part) an act of love, a social act that makes this a better >>> world. >>> > >>> > Chuck Kleinhans >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >> On Dec 3, 2016, at 11:03 AM, Bernard Roddy >>> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> Frameworkers! I don't know who you are, but . . . It's like the >>> >> letters my father writes that I never answer. They just keep coming, >>> >> even as I throw them directly in the trash. What, then, is it to >>> >> write someone, anyway? >>> >> >>> >> But Peter Hutton work screened at Nightingale. And I wonder, well: >>> >> >>> >> What does this have to do with higher education? That wasn't the >>> >> first thing, though. It was, is this still acceptable? It was funny, >>> >> after the show - all totally silent - I had to think of André Kertész >>> >> photographs. Is this even experimental? The girl in the seat in >>> >> front of me rested her head on her boyfriend's shoulder. It was an >>> >> experience resembling a service of some kind. The show was very well >>> >> attended. I'm not just saying that. And understandably so, because >>> >> the experience is hard to get! It's in film, for god's sake, and it >>> >> couldn't possibly be otherwise - it's pure, it's committed to this >>> >> extremely disciplined style. You could think, you could wait, and >>> >> there was never anything to distract you . . (I'm thinking of the >>> >> river film and the Polish city film) . . But then there's that what >>> >> does this have to do with higher education? Can this really be part >>> >> of a course of study? That's where I lose it. >>> >> >>> >> Bernie >>> >> ___ >>> >> FrameWorks mailing list >>> >> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >>> >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__mailman >>> -2Dmail5.webfaction.com_listinfo_frameworks&d=CwIGaQ&c= >>> yHlS04HhBraes5BQ9ueu5zKhE7rtNXt_d012z2PA6ws&r=y2hybOip15_0MH >>> Ksie4eMM743nBh00sLtx4-ahFzSmg&m=JiLBS3AAMadfkJglpuKieU8d8imU >>> aVDM21OEuoFovHA&s=rRyEkT_skAxGeL7iDIvr6Kv8yfS9v9XNUz2FXLcek3k&e= >>> > >>> > ___ >>> > FrameWorks mailing list >>> > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >>> > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >>> ___ >>> FrameWorks mailing list >>> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >>> >> >> ___ >> FrameWorks mailing list >> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >> >> > > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > > -- ... "Impotent beauty hates understanding...but beauty cannot act." AFA_Hutton_12_2016.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Hutton
I can't imagine a screening more 'educational' (and edifying and inspiring) than a series of Peter Hutton's films. Mark Street www.markstreetfilms.com On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 11:52 AM, Shumona Goel wrote: > As a student of Peter Hutton's, I remember distinctly, the first time I > saw Peter's films projected on film. The auditorium was full and remained > in pindrop silence through the evening length screening. > > One the many things that has stayed with me since that screening, was how > he had shot a lamp post lit up at night. It was a long take, nothing moved. > I think there was some snow in the frame. He shot at 8 frames per second > and over time, you could see the movement of the light from the lamp post. > > Amazing. > > On Dec 4, 2016 10:11 PM, "Tim Halloran" wrote: > >> "...an act of love..." Nicely stated. >> >> Cheers. >> >> Tim >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> > On Dec 3, 2016, at 12:11 PM, Chuck Kleinhans >> wrote: >> > >> > 1. Hutton was an educator. >> > >> > 2. For most people, appreciation of “pure” art, of “extremely >> disciplined style” is learned, not an inherent given of personality, >> biology, or whatever. Taste is a social construction, >> > >> > 3. Educating potential viewers so they can have such art experiences >> is (at least in part) an act of love, a social act that makes this a better >> world. >> > >> > Chuck Kleinhans >> > >> > >> > >> >> On Dec 3, 2016, at 11:03 AM, Bernard Roddy >> wrote: >> >> >> >> Frameworkers! I don't know who you are, but . . . It's like the >> >> letters my father writes that I never answer. They just keep coming, >> >> even as I throw them directly in the trash. What, then, is it to >> >> write someone, anyway? >> >> >> >> But Peter Hutton work screened at Nightingale. And I wonder, well: >> >> >> >> What does this have to do with higher education? That wasn't the >> >> first thing, though. It was, is this still acceptable? It was funny, >> >> after the show - all totally silent - I had to think of André Kertész >> >> photographs. Is this even experimental? The girl in the seat in >> >> front of me rested her head on her boyfriend's shoulder. It was an >> >> experience resembling a service of some kind. The show was very well >> >> attended. I'm not just saying that. And understandably so, because >> >> the experience is hard to get! It's in film, for god's sake, and it >> >> couldn't possibly be otherwise - it's pure, it's committed to this >> >> extremely disciplined style. You could think, you could wait, and >> >> there was never anything to distract you . . (I'm thinking of the >> >> river film and the Polish city film) . . But then there's that what >> >> does this have to do with higher education? Can this really be part >> >> of a course of study? That's where I lose it. >> >> >> >> Bernie >> >> ___ >> >> FrameWorks mailing list >> >> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >> >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__mailman >> -2Dmail5.webfaction.com_listinfo_frameworks&d=CwIGaQ& >> c=yHlS04HhBraes5BQ9ueu5zKhE7rtNXt_d012z2PA6ws&r=y2hybOip15_0 >> MHKsie4eMM743nBh00sLtx4-ahFzSmg&m=JiLBS3AAMadfkJglpuKieU8d8i >> mUaVDM21OEuoFovHA&s=rRyEkT_skAxGeL7iDIvr6Kv8yfS9v9XNUz2FXLcek3k&e= >> > >> > ___ >> > FrameWorks mailing list >> > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >> > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >> ___ >> FrameWorks mailing list >> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >> > > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > > ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Hutton
As a student of Peter Hutton's, I remember distinctly, the first time I saw Peter's films projected on film. The auditorium was full and remained in pindrop silence through the evening length screening. One the many things that has stayed with me since that screening, was how he had shot a lamp post lit up at night. It was a long take, nothing moved. I think there was some snow in the frame. He shot at 8 frames per second and over time, you could see the movement of the light from the lamp post. Amazing. On Dec 4, 2016 10:11 PM, "Tim Halloran" wrote: > "...an act of love..." Nicely stated. > > Cheers. > > Tim > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Dec 3, 2016, at 12:11 PM, Chuck Kleinhans > wrote: > > > > 1. Hutton was an educator. > > > > 2. For most people, appreciation of “pure” art, of “extremely > disciplined style” is learned, not an inherent given of personality, > biology, or whatever. Taste is a social construction, > > > > 3. Educating potential viewers so they can have such art experiences is > (at least in part) an act of love, a social act that makes this a better > world. > > > > Chuck Kleinhans > > > > > > > >> On Dec 3, 2016, at 11:03 AM, Bernard Roddy > wrote: > >> > >> Frameworkers! I don't know who you are, but . . . It's like the > >> letters my father writes that I never answer. They just keep coming, > >> even as I throw them directly in the trash. What, then, is it to > >> write someone, anyway? > >> > >> But Peter Hutton work screened at Nightingale. And I wonder, well: > >> > >> What does this have to do with higher education? That wasn't the > >> first thing, though. It was, is this still acceptable? It was funny, > >> after the show - all totally silent - I had to think of André Kertész > >> photographs. Is this even experimental? The girl in the seat in > >> front of me rested her head on her boyfriend's shoulder. It was an > >> experience resembling a service of some kind. The show was very well > >> attended. I'm not just saying that. And understandably so, because > >> the experience is hard to get! It's in film, for god's sake, and it > >> couldn't possibly be otherwise - it's pure, it's committed to this > >> extremely disciplined style. You could think, you could wait, and > >> there was never anything to distract you . . (I'm thinking of the > >> river film and the Polish city film) . . But then there's that what > >> does this have to do with higher education? Can this really be part > >> of a course of study? That's where I lose it. > >> > >> Bernie > >> ___ > >> FrameWorks mailing list > >> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ > mailman-2Dmail5.webfaction.com_listinfo_frameworks&d=CwIGaQ&c= > yHlS04HhBraes5BQ9ueu5zKhE7rtNXt_d012z2PA6ws&r=y2hybOip15_ > 0MHKsie4eMM743nBh00sLtx4-ahFzSmg&m=JiLBS3AAMadfkJglpuKieU8d8imUaV > DM21OEuoFovHA&s=rRyEkT_skAxGeL7iDIvr6Kv8yfS9v9XNUz2FXLcek3k&e= > > > > ___ > > FrameWorks mailing list > > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Hutton
"...an act of love..." Nicely stated. Cheers. Tim Sent from my iPad > On Dec 3, 2016, at 12:11 PM, Chuck Kleinhans > wrote: > > 1. Hutton was an educator. > > 2. For most people, appreciation of “pure” art, of “extremely disciplined > style” is learned, not an inherent given of personality, biology, or > whatever. Taste is a social construction, > > 3. Educating potential viewers so they can have such art experiences is (at > least in part) an act of love, a social act that makes this a better world. > > Chuck Kleinhans > > > >> On Dec 3, 2016, at 11:03 AM, Bernard Roddy wrote: >> >> Frameworkers! I don't know who you are, but . . . It's like the >> letters my father writes that I never answer. They just keep coming, >> even as I throw them directly in the trash. What, then, is it to >> write someone, anyway? >> >> But Peter Hutton work screened at Nightingale. And I wonder, well: >> >> What does this have to do with higher education? That wasn't the >> first thing, though. It was, is this still acceptable? It was funny, >> after the show - all totally silent - I had to think of André Kertész >> photographs. Is this even experimental? The girl in the seat in >> front of me rested her head on her boyfriend's shoulder. It was an >> experience resembling a service of some kind. The show was very well >> attended. I'm not just saying that. And understandably so, because >> the experience is hard to get! It's in film, for god's sake, and it >> couldn't possibly be otherwise - it's pure, it's committed to this >> extremely disciplined style. You could think, you could wait, and >> there was never anything to distract you . . (I'm thinking of the >> river film and the Polish city film) . . But then there's that what >> does this have to do with higher education? Can this really be part >> of a course of study? That's where I lose it. >> >> Bernie >> ___ >> FrameWorks mailing list >> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__mailman-2Dmail5.webfaction.com_listinfo_frameworks&d=CwIGaQ&c=yHlS04HhBraes5BQ9ueu5zKhE7rtNXt_d012z2PA6ws&r=y2hybOip15_0MHKsie4eMM743nBh00sLtx4-ahFzSmg&m=JiLBS3AAMadfkJglpuKieU8d8imUaVDM21OEuoFovHA&s=rRyEkT_skAxGeL7iDIvr6Kv8yfS9v9XNUz2FXLcek3k&e= >> > > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Hutton
I find this remark completely unacceptable for this forum. I think the person who made it should acknowledge it as such, and apologize. I would hate to see Frameworks become moderated, as the AMIA listserv just did. Elizabeth McMahon On Saturday, December 3, 2016, Chuck Kleinhans wrote: > Gentle reminder: > > Hey Bernie, you seem to be off your meds again. Might want to check on > that. > > > > > > > On Dec 3, 2016, at 5:03 PM, Bernard Roddy > wrote: > > > > How does one respond to this sort of teaching? Hello? > > > > On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 2:10 PM, Chuck Kleinhans > > > wrote: > >> 1. Hutton was an educator. > >> > >> 2. For most people, appreciation of “pure” art, of “extremely > disciplined style” is learned, not an inherent given of personality, > biology, or whatever. Taste is a social construction, > >> > >> 3. Educating potential viewers so they can have such art experiences > is (at least in part) an act of love, a social act that makes this a better > world. > >> > >> Chuck Kleinhans > >> > >> > >> > >>> On Dec 3, 2016, at 11:03 AM, Bernard Roddy > wrote: > >>> > >>> Frameworkers! I don't know who you are, but . . . It's like the > >>> letters my father writes that I never answer. They just keep coming, > >>> even as I throw them directly in the trash. What, then, is it to > >>> write someone, anyway? > >>> > >>> But Peter Hutton work screened at Nightingale. And I wonder, well: > >>> > >>> What does this have to do with higher education? That wasn't the > >>> first thing, though. It was, is this still acceptable? It was funny, > >>> after the show - all totally silent - I had to think of André Kertész > >>> photographs. Is this even experimental? The girl in the seat in > >>> front of me rested her head on her boyfriend's shoulder. It was an > >>> experience resembling a service of some kind. The show was very well > >>> attended. I'm not just saying that. And understandably so, because > >>> the experience is hard to get! It's in film, for god's sake, and it > >>> couldn't possibly be otherwise - it's pure, it's committed to this > >>> extremely disciplined style. You could think, you could wait, and > >>> there was never anything to distract you . . (I'm thinking of the > >>> river film and the Polish city film) . . But then there's that what > >>> does this have to do with higher education? Can this really be part > >>> of a course of study? That's where I lose it. > >>> > >>> Bernie > >>> ___ > >>> FrameWorks mailing list > >>> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > >>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ > mailman-2Dmail5.webfaction.com_listinfo_frameworks&d=CwIGaQ&c= > yHlS04HhBraes5BQ9ueu5zKhE7rtNXt_d012z2PA6ws&r=y2hybOip15_ > 0MHKsie4eMM743nBh00sLtx4-ahFzSmg&m=JiLBS3AAMadfkJglpuKieU8d8imUaV > DM21OEuoFovHA&s=rRyEkT_skAxGeL7iDIvr6Kv8yfS9v9XNUz2FXLcek3k&e= > >> > >> ___ > >> FrameWorks mailing list > >> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ > mailman-2Dmail5.webfaction.com_listinfo_frameworks&d=CwIGaQ&c= > yHlS04HhBraes5BQ9ueu5zKhE7rtNXt_d012z2PA6ws&r=y2hybOip15_ > 0MHKsie4eMM743nBh00sLtx4-ahFzSmg&m=23PFkHGaWBTORM8dCZ76v9oj3OtNbr > U-RfVEonV8Cdk&s=yLpMx2Dd9KrYg5LHy69oLV82q3WXBDH82p5Wb_2VQjI&e= > > ___ > > FrameWorks mailing list > > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ > mailman-2Dmail5.webfaction.com_listinfo_frameworks&d=CwIGaQ&c= > yHlS04HhBraes5BQ9ueu5zKhE7rtNXt_d012z2PA6ws&r=y2hybOip15_ > 0MHKsie4eMM743nBh00sLtx4-ahFzSmg&m=23PFkHGaWBTORM8dCZ76v9oj3OtNbr > U-RfVEonV8Cdk&s=yLpMx2Dd9KrYg5LHy69oLV82q3WXBDH82p5Wb_2VQjI&e= > > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Hutton
Gentle reminder: Hey Bernie, you seem to be off your meds again. Might want to check on that. > On Dec 3, 2016, at 5:03 PM, Bernard Roddy wrote: > > How does one respond to this sort of teaching? Hello? > > On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 2:10 PM, Chuck Kleinhans > wrote: >> 1. Hutton was an educator. >> >> 2. For most people, appreciation of “pure” art, of “extremely disciplined >> style” is learned, not an inherent given of personality, biology, or >> whatever. Taste is a social construction, >> >> 3. Educating potential viewers so they can have such art experiences is (at >> least in part) an act of love, a social act that makes this a better world. >> >> Chuck Kleinhans >> >> >> >>> On Dec 3, 2016, at 11:03 AM, Bernard Roddy wrote: >>> >>> Frameworkers! I don't know who you are, but . . . It's like the >>> letters my father writes that I never answer. They just keep coming, >>> even as I throw them directly in the trash. What, then, is it to >>> write someone, anyway? >>> >>> But Peter Hutton work screened at Nightingale. And I wonder, well: >>> >>> What does this have to do with higher education? That wasn't the >>> first thing, though. It was, is this still acceptable? It was funny, >>> after the show - all totally silent - I had to think of André Kertész >>> photographs. Is this even experimental? The girl in the seat in >>> front of me rested her head on her boyfriend's shoulder. It was an >>> experience resembling a service of some kind. The show was very well >>> attended. I'm not just saying that. And understandably so, because >>> the experience is hard to get! It's in film, for god's sake, and it >>> couldn't possibly be otherwise - it's pure, it's committed to this >>> extremely disciplined style. You could think, you could wait, and >>> there was never anything to distract you . . (I'm thinking of the >>> river film and the Polish city film) . . But then there's that what >>> does this have to do with higher education? Can this really be part >>> of a course of study? That's where I lose it. >>> >>> Bernie >>> ___ >>> FrameWorks mailing list >>> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__mailman-2Dmail5.webfaction.com_listinfo_frameworks&d=CwIGaQ&c=yHlS04HhBraes5BQ9ueu5zKhE7rtNXt_d012z2PA6ws&r=y2hybOip15_0MHKsie4eMM743nBh00sLtx4-ahFzSmg&m=JiLBS3AAMadfkJglpuKieU8d8imUaVDM21OEuoFovHA&s=rRyEkT_skAxGeL7iDIvr6Kv8yfS9v9XNUz2FXLcek3k&e= >> >> ___ >> FrameWorks mailing list >> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__mailman-2Dmail5.webfaction.com_listinfo_frameworks&d=CwIGaQ&c=yHlS04HhBraes5BQ9ueu5zKhE7rtNXt_d012z2PA6ws&r=y2hybOip15_0MHKsie4eMM743nBh00sLtx4-ahFzSmg&m=23PFkHGaWBTORM8dCZ76v9oj3OtNbrU-RfVEonV8Cdk&s=yLpMx2Dd9KrYg5LHy69oLV82q3WXBDH82p5Wb_2VQjI&e= >> > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__mailman-2Dmail5.webfaction.com_listinfo_frameworks&d=CwIGaQ&c=yHlS04HhBraes5BQ9ueu5zKhE7rtNXt_d012z2PA6ws&r=y2hybOip15_0MHKsie4eMM743nBh00sLtx4-ahFzSmg&m=23PFkHGaWBTORM8dCZ76v9oj3OtNbrU-RfVEonV8Cdk&s=yLpMx2Dd9KrYg5LHy69oLV82q3WXBDH82p5Wb_2VQjI&e= > ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Hutton
How does one respond to this sort of teaching? Hello? On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 2:10 PM, Chuck Kleinhans wrote: > 1. Hutton was an educator. > > 2. For most people, appreciation of “pure” art, of “extremely disciplined > style” is learned, not an inherent given of personality, biology, or > whatever. Taste is a social construction, > > 3. Educating potential viewers so they can have such art experiences is (at > least in part) an act of love, a social act that makes this a better world. > > Chuck Kleinhans > > > >> On Dec 3, 2016, at 11:03 AM, Bernard Roddy wrote: >> >> Frameworkers! I don't know who you are, but . . . It's like the >> letters my father writes that I never answer. They just keep coming, >> even as I throw them directly in the trash. What, then, is it to >> write someone, anyway? >> >> But Peter Hutton work screened at Nightingale. And I wonder, well: >> >> What does this have to do with higher education? That wasn't the >> first thing, though. It was, is this still acceptable? It was funny, >> after the show - all totally silent - I had to think of André Kertész >> photographs. Is this even experimental? The girl in the seat in >> front of me rested her head on her boyfriend's shoulder. It was an >> experience resembling a service of some kind. The show was very well >> attended. I'm not just saying that. And understandably so, because >> the experience is hard to get! It's in film, for god's sake, and it >> couldn't possibly be otherwise - it's pure, it's committed to this >> extremely disciplined style. You could think, you could wait, and >> there was never anything to distract you . . (I'm thinking of the >> river film and the Polish city film) . . But then there's that what >> does this have to do with higher education? Can this really be part >> of a course of study? That's where I lose it. >> >> Bernie >> ___ >> FrameWorks mailing list >> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__mailman-2Dmail5.webfaction.com_listinfo_frameworks&d=CwIGaQ&c=yHlS04HhBraes5BQ9ueu5zKhE7rtNXt_d012z2PA6ws&r=y2hybOip15_0MHKsie4eMM743nBh00sLtx4-ahFzSmg&m=JiLBS3AAMadfkJglpuKieU8d8imUaVDM21OEuoFovHA&s=rRyEkT_skAxGeL7iDIvr6Kv8yfS9v9XNUz2FXLcek3k&e= > > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Hutton
Oh please . . On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 2:08 PM, John Knecht wrote: > Bernie, > > I used Peter Hutton's films in my university courses for forty years. I put > them in context by showing students, Peter's films with paintings by Monet. > Filmmaking in celluloid or in a digital format is about light and motion at > its base. Artists such as Peter Hutton or Claude Monet or James Benning are > artists who look carefully at the world. As Benning says "Going out and > observing and reporting back." Peter's study of natural light and motion > are unique in cinema. Good art makes places for us to go. Peter's films > took you to a place the other night. It took the couple in front of you > there too. You've never been there before. Come back again. > > John Knecht > > On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 2:03 PM, Bernard Roddy > wrote: >> >> Frameworkers! I don't know who you are, but . . . It's like the >> letters my father writes that I never answer. They just keep coming, >> even as I throw them directly in the trash. What, then, is it to >> write someone, anyway? >> >> But Peter Hutton work screened at Nightingale. And I wonder, well: >> >> What does this have to do with higher education? That wasn't the >> first thing, though. It was, is this still acceptable? It was funny, >> after the show - all totally silent - I had to think of André Kertész >> photographs. Is this even experimental? The girl in the seat in >> front of me rested her head on her boyfriend's shoulder. It was an >> experience resembling a service of some kind. The show was very well >> attended. I'm not just saying that. And understandably so, because >> the experience is hard to get! It's in film, for god's sake, and it >> couldn't possibly be otherwise - it's pure, it's committed to this >> extremely disciplined style. You could think, you could wait, and >> there was never anything to distract you . . (I'm thinking of the >> river film and the Polish city film) . . But then there's that what >> does this have to do with higher education? Can this really be part >> of a course of study? That's where I lose it. >> >> Bernie >> ___ >> FrameWorks mailing list >> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > > > > > -- > John Knecht, Russell Colgate Distinguished > University Professor of Art and Art History > and Film and Media Studies. Emeritus. > > > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Hutton
1. Hutton was an educator. 2. For most people, appreciation of “pure” art, of “extremely disciplined style” is learned, not an inherent given of personality, biology, or whatever. Taste is a social construction, 3. Educating potential viewers so they can have such art experiences is (at least in part) an act of love, a social act that makes this a better world. Chuck Kleinhans > On Dec 3, 2016, at 11:03 AM, Bernard Roddy wrote: > > Frameworkers! I don't know who you are, but . . . It's like the > letters my father writes that I never answer. They just keep coming, > even as I throw them directly in the trash. What, then, is it to > write someone, anyway? > > But Peter Hutton work screened at Nightingale. And I wonder, well: > > What does this have to do with higher education? That wasn't the > first thing, though. It was, is this still acceptable? It was funny, > after the show - all totally silent - I had to think of André Kertész > photographs. Is this even experimental? The girl in the seat in > front of me rested her head on her boyfriend's shoulder. It was an > experience resembling a service of some kind. The show was very well > attended. I'm not just saying that. And understandably so, because > the experience is hard to get! It's in film, for god's sake, and it > couldn't possibly be otherwise - it's pure, it's committed to this > extremely disciplined style. You could think, you could wait, and > there was never anything to distract you . . (I'm thinking of the > river film and the Polish city film) . . But then there's that what > does this have to do with higher education? Can this really be part > of a course of study? That's where I lose it. > > Bernie > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__mailman-2Dmail5.webfaction.com_listinfo_frameworks&d=CwIGaQ&c=yHlS04HhBraes5BQ9ueu5zKhE7rtNXt_d012z2PA6ws&r=y2hybOip15_0MHKsie4eMM743nBh00sLtx4-ahFzSmg&m=JiLBS3AAMadfkJglpuKieU8d8imUaVDM21OEuoFovHA&s=rRyEkT_skAxGeL7iDIvr6Kv8yfS9v9XNUz2FXLcek3k&e= > ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Hutton
Bernie, I used Peter Hutton's films in my university courses for forty years. I put them in context by showing students, Peter's films with paintings by Monet. Filmmaking in celluloid or in a digital format is about light and motion at its base. Artists such as Peter Hutton or Claude Monet or James Benning are artists who look carefully at the world. As Benning says "Going out and observing and reporting back." Peter's study of natural light and motion are unique in cinema. Good art makes places for us to go. Peter's films took you to a place the other night. It took the couple in front of you there too. You've never been there before. Come back again. John Knecht On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 2:03 PM, Bernard Roddy wrote: > Frameworkers! I don't know who you are, but . . . It's like the > letters my father writes that I never answer. They just keep coming, > even as I throw them directly in the trash. What, then, is it to > write someone, anyway? > > But Peter Hutton work screened at Nightingale. And I wonder, well: > > What does this have to do with higher education? That wasn't the > first thing, though. It was, is this still acceptable? It was funny, > after the show - all totally silent - I had to think of André Kertész > photographs. Is this even experimental? The girl in the seat in > front of me rested her head on her boyfriend's shoulder. It was an > experience resembling a service of some kind. The show was very well > attended. I'm not just saying that. And understandably so, because > the experience is hard to get! It's in film, for god's sake, and it > couldn't possibly be otherwise - it's pure, it's committed to this > extremely disciplined style. You could think, you could wait, and > there was never anything to distract you . . (I'm thinking of the > river film and the Polish city film) . . But then there's that what > does this have to do with higher education? Can this really be part > of a course of study? That's where I lose it. > > Bernie > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > -- John Knecht, Russell Colgate Distinguished University Professor of Art and Art History and Film and Media Studies. Emeritus. ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
[Frameworks] Hutton
Frameworkers! I don't know who you are, but . . . It's like the letters my father writes that I never answer. They just keep coming, even as I throw them directly in the trash. What, then, is it to write someone, anyway? But Peter Hutton work screened at Nightingale. And I wonder, well: What does this have to do with higher education? That wasn't the first thing, though. It was, is this still acceptable? It was funny, after the show - all totally silent - I had to think of André Kertész photographs. Is this even experimental? The girl in the seat in front of me rested her head on her boyfriend's shoulder. It was an experience resembling a service of some kind. The show was very well attended. I'm not just saying that. And understandably so, because the experience is hard to get! It's in film, for god's sake, and it couldn't possibly be otherwise - it's pure, it's committed to this extremely disciplined style. You could think, you could wait, and there was never anything to distract you . . (I'm thinking of the river film and the Polish city film) . . But then there's that what does this have to do with higher education? Can this really be part of a course of study? That's where I lose it. Bernie ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
[Frameworks] Hutton - At Sea, in Berlin, Lenin Portrait
Hi all, I'm trying to see if anyone knows how to acquire a print of Hutton's film 'At Sea, in Berlin, Lenin Portrait'. I can only find a few records of it online but it's not one that Canyon or Arsenal hold, so I'm assuming it's one of the prints he had personally. Thanks, Christopher ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks