Re: [Frameworks] orwo un54/n74 dev as Negative

2017-03-08 Thread Scott Dorsey
Rodinol is always going to give much much grainier results than a fine-grain
developer like D-76 or a developer with a silver solvent like Microdol-X.

But, Rodinol is also going to give you much better separation in highlights.
It's not very compensating, but it will stretch the head of the curve enough
that you'll see some compensation and highlights won't block up as easily
as they would with a D-76.

You could try adding additional sulfite to Rodinol to reduce grain at the
expense of film speed; the sulfite will act as a silver solvent and feather
the edges of the grains so they aren't as well-defined.  Microdol-X uses
thiocyanate for that, but thiocyanate is very touchy about concentration
and finding the precise amount you want will be difficult, whereas adding
sulfite will have much less dramatic effects.
--scott


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Re: [Frameworks] orwo un54/n74 dev as Negative

2017-03-08 Thread Chris G
In a Lomo tank I've done UN54 as negative with the Adox Rodinal remake in a 
1:50 dilution for 10 min development time at 20c. I got this time from the 
massive development chart. For the same formula and temp the massive dev chart 
says 13' for UN74 at 400 ISO. Not sure if Rodinal would be ideal for the faster 
emulsion. Hope this helps! 

Chris

> On Mar 5, 2017, at 12:45, franco base  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> have you got some experience to share 
> with orwo un54 and n74 film developed as negative?
> 
> I'd like know the developer and times also for pull and push processing,
> particularly for the n74 exposed at 800/1600 asa.
> 
> Thanks a lot.
> F.
> 
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Re: [Frameworks] orwo un54/n74 dev as Negative

2017-03-07 Thread Scott Dorsey
I cannot speak about un54.

I have run n74 in roller-transport machines and found that it took slightly
less time, maybe 10% less, to get a gamma of .65, compared with Tri-X,
using a conventional D-96 developer.

If I were hand-processing, I would start out with the Tri-X times and work
my way up or down from there.  But I would expect to be going slightly down.

n74 seems very much like a copy of Tri-X from the early 1970s before the 
major film stock changes in 1976 came about.  Just like old Tri-X, it had
amazing blacks, very solid, but did not push very well at all.  It tended to 
come apart with very coarse grain and block up very easily.  I suggest that 
if you are trying to push-process n74 that you might want to consider trying 
Acufine, which worked very well on the old Tri-X RP 7207 way back when.

Note that both n74 and un54 are also sold as still photography films, and as
such the still version data sheets should have time and temperature charts
on them.  These are likely to work pretty closely for large reel development.
If you're going reel and trough or rewind tank processing, all bets are off.
--scott

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