Re: how to avoid bullets in the feet (was Re: HEADS UP: sigset_t changescommitted)

1999-09-30 Thread Marcel Moolenaar
Alfred Perlstein wrote: What's really needed is some warning sort of like what we did when the AOUT-ELF convertion happened, there has to be a simple way to test this as part of installworld. Yes, that's exactly what I had in mind. Details still need to be worked out, though. -- Marcel

Re: HEADS UP: sigset_t changes committed

1999-09-30 Thread Marcel Moolenaar
[cc list trimmed] John-Mark Gurney wrote: actually, no, I would like this fixed... I will be unable to develope FreeBSD if the tools target doesn't work!! I do all of my compiles on a 3.0-R box (yes, that's right, 3.0-R) and it will basicly stop me from doing any of that... I'm not sure

Re: HEADS UP: sigset_t changes committed

1999-09-30 Thread John-Mark Gurney
Marcel Moolenaar scribbled this message on Sep 30: [cc list trimmed] John-Mark Gurney wrote: actually, no, I would like this fixed... I will be unable to develope FreeBSD if the tools target doesn't work!! I do all of my compiles on a 3.0-R box (yes, that's right, 3.0-R) and it will

Re: HEADS UP: sigset_t changes committed

1999-09-30 Thread Reinier Bezuidenhout
I know this is not topic related, so appologies in advance ... Sometimes people deserve a pat on the back. This is the best thing since Chocolate Chip cookies :) We're running things like myth2_demo, and it opens the doors to a whole bunch of applications ... e.g. C++ Builder to follow next

Re: HEADS UP: sigset_t changes committed

1999-09-30 Thread Amancio Hasty
Without proper linux support we are dead . Now I have to get off my soap box and let the work continue 8) Best Regards -- Amancio Hasty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

Re: HEADS UP: sigset_t changes committed

1999-09-30 Thread Marcel Moolenaar
Amancio Hasty wrote: BTW: I think that what you are doing is really great !! Thanks! Hmm... I wonder if the volume in the list will increase with cool apps such as IBM's ViaVoice which needs your mods to work. Already Linux binaries have been tested and confirmed working with the new

Re: HEADS UP: sigset_t changes committed

1999-09-30 Thread Marcel Moolenaar
Richard Wackerbarth wrote: There is nothing fundamental in the toolset which SHOULD care about the underlying kernel. Compilers, loaders, etc. are just programs that operate on the contents of files. Think of compiling the 4.0 system on a 3.3 system as a simpler case of cross compiling. I

Re: HEADS UP: sigset_t changes committed

1999-09-30 Thread Marcel Moolenaar
John-Mark Gurney wrote: but I'm developing for -current... I do a buildworld on my 3.0-R box and move it over to the box after it's complete... I'm not sure about you, but doing a buildworld over nfs w/ a processor that is sub p133 is not something that really works to well... Ah, now I

Re: HEADS UP: sigset_t changes committed

1999-09-30 Thread Andrew Reilly
On Thu, Sep 30, 1999 at 01:41:41PM +1000, Peter Jeremy wrote: On Thu, Sep 30, 1999 at 01:29:40AM +1000, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: Before attempting to build world, you must make and install a new kernel. The new kernel will contain new syscalls that are needed during build world. doscmd is

Re: my repository is broken (more)

1999-09-30 Thread Bob Bishop
At 9:10 pm +0100 29/9/99, Josef Karthauser wrote: On Wed, Sep 29, 1999 at 04:58:34PM +, Bob Bishop wrote: [...] I now suspect that cvsup.uk.freebsd.org isn't up-to-date. Anyone know anything? [...] In summary - sorry, try again. 'Tis working now :) Yup, looks like we're back in business

Re: my repository is broken

1999-09-30 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On Wed, 29 Sep 1999 14:20:25 GMT, Bob Bishop wrote: === usr.sbin/lpr/filters.ru === usr.sbin/lpr/filters.ru/koi2alt make: don't know how to make koi2alt.c. Stop Looks like you haven't updated in a while. Apparently because... moved to koi2alt ...never made it

Re: just found this

1999-09-30 Thread Ville-Pertti Keinonen
It wasn't a problem in -current due to a different way that things were done there. What things, exactly? I haven't noticed any differences in vfs_cache.c or vfs_subr.c that should affect the caching behavior, so it must just be that the system survives a large amount of wired down memory

Re: how to avoid bullets in the feet (was Re: HEADS UP: sigset_t changescommitted)

1999-09-30 Thread Harold Gutch
On Thu, Sep 30, 1999 at 09:19:47AM +0200, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: Alfred Perlstein wrote: What's really needed is some warning sort of like what we did when the AOUT-ELF convertion happened, there has to be a simple way to test this as part of installworld. Yes, that's exactly what I

Re: HEADS UP: sigset_t changes committed

1999-09-30 Thread Brad Knowles
At 10:17 PM + 1999/9/29, Adam Strohl wrote: Furthermore, for when 4.0 becomes a -R or -S, ftping in a compiled kernel shouldn't be that hard of a price to pay for going from 3.2. /stand/sysinstall based upgrades could easily seemlessly take care of this, too. I must confess

new sigset_t and upgrading: a proposal

1999-09-30 Thread Marcel Moolenaar
Hi, In the recent discussion about the breakage of the upgrade path from -stable to -current numerous suggestions and other kinds of remarks have been made. In this light I have the following proposal. Please share your thoughts... NOTE: This proposal only discusses upgrading from -stable to

Opti931 Sound Card

1999-09-30 Thread Neal Westfall
Since the new sound code has been committed, my cheapo Opti931 sound card hasn't been working. Hopefully with the dmesg and pnpinfo output which is attached, somebody can add the proper vendor IDs. Much appreciated. Neal Checking for Plug-n-Play devices... Card assigned CSN #1 Vendor ID

Re: new sigset_t and upgrading: a proposal

1999-09-30 Thread Andrew Reilly
On Thu, Sep 30, 1999 at 12:13:32PM +0200, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: The problem --- When doing a make world, tools are being built that are used by the build process. This is to make sure that the tools are appropriate for doing a make world. The problem we now face is that the

Re: new sigset_t and upgrading: a proposal

1999-09-30 Thread Marcel Moolenaar
Marcel Moolenaar wrote: Pros o It increases inoperability between -stable and -current. I mean decreases inoperability or increases operability of course :-/ -- Marcel Moolenaarmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] SCC Internetworking Databases

Re: new sigset_t and upgrading: a proposal

1999-09-30 Thread David Malone
On Thu, Sep 30, 1999 at 12:13:32PM +0200, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: So, the problem can be split into: A) New syscalls using the new sigset_t (sigaction and so on) B) A new sigframe (new siginfo, no sigcontext but ucontext_t) "I'm probably missing something, but..." (TM) The new syscall

Re: new sigset_t and upgrading: a proposal

1999-09-30 Thread Richard Wackerbarth
On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: Sub-problem B (sigframe) doesn't need to be handled, because: 1. none of the tools require ... Correct, this is a "non-problem". Sub-problem A (syscalls) can be easily handled if the syscalls are added to a -stable kernel. Wrong. I CANNOT

Re: HEADS UP: sigset_t changes committed

1999-09-30 Thread Maxim Sobolev
As a fresh idea (probably stupid, but anyway): Why we can't load compile and small KLD with all necessary syscalls (even probably stubs) to build 4.0 world when someone trying to build it on top of 3.*? -Maxim -- "We believe in the Power and the Might!" (Manowar, 1996)

Re: new sigset_t and upgrading: a proposal

1999-09-30 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
Hi, In the recent discussion about the breakage of the upgrade path from -stable to -current numerous suggestions and other kinds of remarks have been made. In this light I have the following proposal. Please share your thoughts... NOTE: This proposal only discusses upgrading from

Re: HEADS UP: sigset_t changes committed

1999-09-30 Thread Maxim Sobolev
Maxim Sobolev wrote: Why we can't load compile and small KLD with all necessary syscalls (even ^^^ I mean ".load and compile small". Cut and paste technology sometimes plays bad jokes with us.;) -Max To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL

Linksys LNE100TX

1999-09-30 Thread Edwin Culp
Fry´s was out of Intel 100/10 ethernet cards, so I bought a Linksys LNE100TX remembering that I there was a driver for it. I added device pn0 to my kernel configuration and compiled the kernel. It was not detected during boot. I added the mii_bus0 controller just in case. Recompiled

Re: 4.0-CURRENT: libkvm compile fault

1999-09-30 Thread Marcel Moolenaar
Ilya Pekshev wrote: seems that something wrong went with last updates made to signal.h, param.h and user.h in 4.0-CURRENT after last cvsup can't compile ps, vmstat and libkvm. Any thoughs what's wrong? Do a make world. Make a new kernel before doing that. You need the new libraries and

Re: HEADS UP: sigset_t changes committed

1999-09-30 Thread John Polstra
Marcel Moolenaar wrote: As for AMD, I don't use it. I'll dig into manpages, source code and whatsnot. If possible I'll reconfigure something here so that I can test it on a i386. Thanks. I'll try to get you a stack trace from it today if I can find time. BTW: I'm sorry, that a simple bug

buildworld dies on compat-43/sigcompat.c

1999-09-30 Thread Leonard Sitongia
I've installed -current on an x86 laptop, and ran cvsup to update all sources. I build and booted a new kernel (PCCARD). The buildworld dies at: cc -O -pipe -DLIBC_RCS -DSYSLIBC_RCS -I/usr/src/lib/libc/include -D__DBINTERFACE_PRIVATE -DPOSIX_MISTAKE -I/usr/src/lib/libc/../libc/locale

Re: HEADS UP: sigset_t changes committed

1999-09-30 Thread Marcel Moolenaar
Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote: commit. But even then I still ran into problems, although I'm not sure how closely related they are to the changes made. My problems seem to be with the Soren's ata drivers. I'm using Soren's ATA drivers myself without problems. Admitted, I'm only using it to play

Re: Linksys LNE100TX

1999-09-30 Thread Douglas Kuntz
Hmmm...I believe mine is s LNE100TX...I know it's a Linksys, and it's a 10/100 PCI..and it's runnin fine under Current (last make world was about a week ago), as pn0 in my config: device pn0 # Lite-On 82c168/82c169 (``PNIC'') and from dmesg | grep pn0 : pn0: 82c169 PNIC 10/100BaseTX

Re: Linksys LNE100TX

1999-09-30 Thread Edwin Culp
Bill Paul wrote: Of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world, Edwin Culp had to walk into mine and say: Fry´s was out of Intel 100/10 ethernet cards, so I bought a Linksys LNE100TX remembering that I there was a driver for it. No, you bought an LNE100TX v2.0, forgetting that

Re: buildworld dies on compat-43/sigcompat.c

1999-09-30 Thread Marcel Moolenaar
Leonard Sitongia wrote: I've installed -current on an x86 laptop, and ran cvsup to update all sources. I build and booted a new kernel (PCCARD). The buildworld dies at: cc -O -pipe -DLIBC_RCS -DSYSLIBC_RCS -I/usr/src/lib/libc/include -D__DBINTERFACE_PRIVATE -DPOSIX_MISTAKE

Re: HEADS UP: sigset_t changes committed

1999-09-30 Thread Kenneth Wayne Culver
I would have to agree with that. I have never seen such a well documented commit. But even then I still ran into problems, although I'm not sure how closely related they are to the changes made. My problems seem to be with the Soren's ata drivers. The good old "lost contact with device" messages

Re: HEADS UP: sigset_t changes committed

1999-09-30 Thread John-Mark Gurney
Maxim Sobolev scribbled this message on Sep 30: [-- Warning: koi8-r is not compatible with your display.] Maxim Sobolev wrote: Why we can't load compile and small KLD with all necessary syscalls (even ^^^ I mean ".load and compile small". Cut

ASSERT macros in the kernel....

1999-09-30 Thread Matthew Jacob
I don't seem to see (after not looking very hard) any ASSERT macros for the kernel in FreeBSD. It'd be pretty easy to add them, and they're awfully useful. They're different from INVARIANT support in that they encapsulate (and panic if the assertion is triggered) more inline types of conditions.

Re: HEADS UP: sigset_t changes committed

1999-09-30 Thread John-Mark Gurney
Marcel Moolenaar scribbled this message on Sep 30: Try -DNOTOOLS. I don't know if the -current sources depend specifically on -current tools (such as egcs). well, this may work, but it still doesn't produce a "clean" system to build with... I don't know the number of times that I've used the

Re: Linksys LNE100TX

1999-09-30 Thread Edwin Culp
Douglas Kuntz wrote: Hmmm...I believe mine is s LNE100TX...I know it's a Linksys, and it's a 10/100 PCI..and it's runnin fine under Current (last make world was about a week ago), as pn0 in my config: device pn0 # Lite-On 82c168/82c169 (``PNIC'') and from dmesg | grep pn0 :

Re: new sigset_t and upgrading: a proposal

1999-09-30 Thread Marcel Moolenaar
"Rodney W. Grimes" wrote: IMHO, the only ``correct'' fix for the latest incarnation of the problem is to finally once and for all fix the cross compilation environment instead of using a half cooked tools: target to deal with certain problems. brainstorm: Upgrading cannot be solved if it

Re: HEADS UP: sigset_t changes committed

1999-09-30 Thread Bill Fumerola
On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: The upgrading from -stable to -current is currently being tested by Bill Fumerola. I can imagine that some might be broken in that case. This I will attempt to fix, then... As others have mentioned 3.3-STABLE right now cannot build 4.0-CURRENT

sound etc,

1999-09-30 Thread Rick Yip
Hi! I have bought the official version of FreeBSD 3.2 and tried to get the sound to work but it doesn't. I tried 4Front's software but that doesn't work either. I get messages that I can't configure /dev/dsp: device is busy all of the time. Somtimes I can't allocate 32768 M problems.

Re: new sigset_t and upgrading: a proposal

1999-09-30 Thread Marcel Moolenaar
"Rodney W. Grimes" wrote: 1. A compiler C running on machine 1 and capable of generating code for machine 2 (the compiler includes headers and libraries), 2. Source code compatible with compiler C, but also with machine 2. And also compatible with machine 1, that is the bugger right

Now that sigcontext is gone ...

1999-09-30 Thread John Polstra
I'm trying to digest the recent signal changes and get a handle on what I need to do to make Modula-3 work. There is code in the runtime currently which catches SIGBUS and uses the sigcontext's "sc_err" member to find out the faulting address. That should be replaced by the siginfo_t's

Re: Now that sigcontext is gone ...

1999-09-30 Thread Nate Williams
I'm trying to digest the recent signal changes and get a handle on what I need to do to make Modula-3 work. There is code in the runtime currently which catches SIGBUS and uses the sigcontext's "sc_err" member to find out the faulting address. That should be replaced by the siginfo_t's

sysinstall/dist.c sigaction update patch

1999-09-30 Thread John W. DeBoskey
hi, we're working on a small mod to sysinstall, and we're seeing the following with the unmodified source since the signal code going in: cc -O -pipe -Wall -I/usr/src/release/sysinstall/../../gnu/lib/libdialog -I/usr/obj/usr/src/release/sysinstall -I/usr/src/release/sysinstall/../../sys

Re: HEADS UP: sigset_t changes committed

1999-09-30 Thread Peter Wemm
John-Mark Gurney wrote: [..] might as well say goodbye to ever getting freebsd's userland running under NetBSD which is how our nice Alpha port got started... this NEEDS to be fixed... NetBSD have just done exactly the same sort of thing. And for that matter it makes no difference for that

Re: FICL breakage...

1999-09-30 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
Anyway, all good to know. There are almost certainly more perl speakers than awk speakers these days, so it probably makes sense to do these things in perl rather than awk. I think that's sort of in the grey area. There are also many Hardened Traditionalists(tm) like myself who don't know

Re: ASSERT macros in the kernel....

1999-09-30 Thread Matthew Jacob
:I don't seem to see (after not looking very hard) any ASSERT macros for :the kernel in FreeBSD. It'd be pretty easy to add them, and they're :awfully useful. They're different from INVARIANT support in that they :encapsulate (and panic if the assertion is triggered) more inline types of

Re: Now that sigcontext is gone ...

1999-09-30 Thread Alan Cox
Actually, the last time I looked the Modula-3 run-time system determined the faulting address from the undocumented (except on SunOS 4) 4th argument that most BSD-derived systems passed to the signal handler. There was a time in fact when sc_err wasn't included in the sigcontext on FreeBSD and

NFS mod for solaris committed

1999-09-30 Thread Matthew Dillon
Oh, I forgot to email current on this... I've #if 0'd out the NFSERR_BAD_COOKIE code that is partially responsible for the solaris interoperability problems I went through the code very carefully and determined that my previous understanding was just plain wrong. As far as

Re: Now that sigcontext is gone ...

1999-09-30 Thread John Polstra
Marcel Moolenaar wrote: That's right, it's not implemented yet. The work-around is to use ucontext. uc_mcontext contains the trapframe which has tf_err (uc.uc_mcontext.mc_tf.tf_err). Thanks. I haven't paid any attention to implement any of the fields in siginfo_t because that may only

Re: Now that sigcontext is gone ...

1999-09-30 Thread John Polstra
Alan Cox wrote: Actually, the last time I looked the Modula-3 run-time system determined the faulting address from the undocumented (except on SunOS 4) 4th argument that most BSD-derived systems passed to the signal handler. Yep, I have fixed that in the PM3 release (which is the one that's

Re: FICL breakage...

1999-09-30 Thread Oliver Fromme
Jordan K. Hubbard wrote in list.freebsd-current: Anyway, all good to know. There are almost certainly more perl speakers than awk speakers these days, so it probably makes sense to do these things in perl rather than awk. I think that's sort of in the grey area. There are also many

Re: new sigset_t and upgrading: a proposal

1999-09-30 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
Why are the tools being built using new syscalls? What causes this? Mainly historical bugs. Includes are installed too early and they only match the new syscalls. Tools are built using the new includes, so they need new libraries to be consistent. Therefore the new libraries are built

Re: Now that sigcontext is gone ...

1999-09-30 Thread Marcel Moolenaar
Alan Cox wrote: I guess this discussion means that the 4th argument is gone too... Yes. ucontext_t (3rd argument) already contains that information and siginfo_t *should* contain that information. There's not need for a 4th argument anymore. -- Marcel Moolenaar

Re: HEADS UP: sigset_t changes committed

1999-09-30 Thread Doug
On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, Brad Knowles wrote: At 10:17 PM + 1999/9/29, Adam Strohl wrote: Furthermore, for when 4.0 becomes a -R or -S, ftping in a compiled kernel shouldn't be that hard of a price to pay for going from 3.2. /stand/sysinstall based upgrades could easily seemlessly take

Re: HEADS UP: sigset_t changes committed

1999-09-30 Thread Marcel Moolenaar
John-Mark Gurney wrote: the reason I was on Marcel's back was because of his statement that he WOULD NOT do ANYTHING to fix the problem, and that as far as he was considered, that's life and deal w/ it... if he had said, oh, I'll look for a solution to the problem, I wouldn't of been so

Re: new sigset_t and upgrading: a proposal

1999-09-30 Thread Nate Williams
Mainly historical bugs. Includes are installed too early and they only match the new syscalls. Tools are built using the new includes, so they need new libraries to be consistent. Therefore the new libraries are built before the new tools. These bugs were implemented in FreeBSD-1 by

Re: NFS mod for solaris committed

1999-09-30 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
Matthew Dillon wrote: Oh, I forgot to email current on this... I've #if 0'd out the NFSERR_BAD_COOKIE code that is partially responsible for the solaris interoperability problems I'd like to know if anyone has contacted Sun about this, which looks like a bug in their code. --

Re: Now that sigcontext is gone ...

1999-09-30 Thread John Polstra
Alan Cox wrote: /* kludge to pass faulting virtual address to sendsig */ frame-tf_err = eva; return((rv == KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE) ? SIGBUS : SIGSEGV); } Up until this point, frame-tf_err tells me details about the page fault, such as whether it was a read or a

Re: HEADS UP: sigset_t changes committed

1999-09-30 Thread Don Lewis
On Sep 30, 11:24pm, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: } Subject: Re: HEADS UP: sigset_t changes committed } As for me, I'm trying to define the problem as detailed and consise as } possible. I already have some specific thoughts and ideas. I'm thinking } large here: real cross-compilation capabilities and

Re: EGCS, or EGCS?

1999-09-30 Thread David O'Brien
look at gcc's behaviour. This has left me somewhat confused. I appear to have two complete copies of gcc - one in src/contrib/gcc and another in src/contrib/egcs/gcc. WIP. src/contrib/egcs is the current home. It is moving to src/contrib/{gcc,libio,libstdc++,etc.}. After the move, it

Re: System crash on vinum start

1999-09-30 Thread Jeffrey J. Mountin
At 03:14 PM 9/28/99 +0930, Greg Lehey wrote: And the preferred method is... a) /dev/da0 b) /dev/da0s1 c) /dev/da0s1e (-current and -stable I hope :) (b) or (c). (a) isn't a slice. Note that it won't take slice c, either. Thanks for the clarification. Was recalling a past dicussion on

Problems with Linux emulation

1999-09-30 Thread Thomas Schuerger
Hi! I´ve updated to the latest 4.0-CURRENT on Monday and discovered today, that my Linux emulation is broken. The emulation is loaded as a kernel module alright, but when I start anything really using the emulation (e.g. acroread4) my system hangs completely and requires a reboot. I deinstalled

Re: HEADS UP: sigset_t changes committed

1999-09-30 Thread John-Mark Gurney
Don Lewis scribbled this message on Sep 30: On Sep 30, 11:24pm, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: } Subject: Re: HEADS UP: sigset_t changes committed } As for me, I'm trying to define the problem as detailed and consise as } possible. I already have some specific thoughts and ideas. I'm thinking }

Re: Now that sigcontext is gone ...

1999-09-30 Thread Bruce Evans
I'm trying to digest the recent signal changes and get a handle on what I need to do to make Modula-3 work. There is code in the runtime Sigcontext will have to come back, since it is a standard BSD interface. Recent signal changes break even its source-level compatibility. Previous signal

Re: Problems with Linux emulation

1999-09-30 Thread Steve Kargl
Thomas Schuerger wrote: [Charset ISO-8859-1 unsupported, filtering to ASCII...] This happens when the install script wants to call {PREFIX}/sbin/ldconfig (the Linux-ldconfig). I rebuilt and reinstalled the linux emulation module, but that didn_t help either. Installing the above port

Re: new sigset_t and upgrading: a proposal

1999-09-30 Thread Peter Jeremy
On Fri, Oct 01, 1999 at 08:48:34AM +1000, David O'Brien wrote: On Thu, Sep 30, 1999 at 06:25:56AM -0700, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: Cons o Upgrading from 3.3 and before to -current is only possible after an upgrade to post 3.3. Not good. We recommend that 2.2.x people upgrade to

Re: HEADS UP: sigset_t changes committed

1999-09-30 Thread John-Mark Gurney
Marcel Moolenaar scribbled this message on Sep 30: John-Mark Gurney wrote: the reason I was on Marcel's back was because of his statement that he WOULD NOT do ANYTHING to fix the problem, and that as far as he was considered, that's life and deal w/ it... if he had said, oh, I'll look

Re: System crash on vinum start

1999-09-30 Thread Peter Jeremy
On Fri, Oct 01, 1999 at 09:20:53AM +1000, Jeffrey J. Mountin wrote: At 12:59 PM 9/28/99 +1000, Peter Jeremy wrote: On Tue, Sep 28, 1999 at 09:11:31AM +1000, Greg Lehey wrote: Good software shouldn't panic. I wish _I_ could convince some people of this :-(. It can be difficult to consider what

Re: HEADS UP: sigset_t changes committed

1999-09-30 Thread Nate Williams
you don't under stand, we are NOT talking about upgrades, we are talking about how to make a buildable system on -stable... There are essentially the same problem. In order to do an upgrade, you have to be able to build on -stable. :) === libgcc echo '#include i386/xm-i386.h' config.h

Re: HEADS UP: sigset_t changes committed

1999-09-30 Thread Don Lewis
On Sep 30, 4:14pm, John-Mark Gurney wrote: } Subject: Re: HEADS UP: sigset_t changes committed } } In this particular case, the only thing cross-compilation would buy us } is the ability to build (but not install) 4.x binaries on a machine } running 3.x. It sounds like some folks would be

Re: HEADS UP: sigset_t changes committed

1999-09-30 Thread Peter Jeremy
On Fri, Oct 01, 1999, you wrote: On Sep 30, 4:14pm, John-Mark Gurney wrote: } Subject: Re: HEADS UP: sigset_t changes committed } } In this particular case, the only thing cross-compilation would buy us } is the ability to build (but not install) 4.x binaries on a machine } running 3.x. It

Re: HEADS UP: sigset_t changes committed

1999-09-30 Thread John-Mark Gurney
Don Lewis scribbled this message on Sep 30: On Sep 30, 4:14pm, John-Mark Gurney wrote: } Subject: Re: HEADS UP: sigset_t changes committed } } In this particular case, the only thing cross-compilation would buy us } is the ability to build (but not install) 4.x binaries on a machine }

Re: HEADS UP: sigset_t changes committed

1999-09-30 Thread John-Mark Gurney
Nate Williams scribbled this message on Sep 30: you don't under stand, we are NOT talking about upgrades, we are talking about how to make a buildable system on -stable... There are essentially the same problem. In order to do an upgrade, you have to be able to build on -stable. :)

Re: System crash on vinum start

1999-09-30 Thread Jeffrey J. Mountin
At 09:44 AM 10/1/99 +1000, Peter Jeremy wrote: I was thinking of some `production' code (written by a sister company) that I used to provide customer support for. It would regularly core dump (but was automatically restarted). After a few years they did manage to fix the core dump, but that

Re: System crash on vinum start

1999-09-30 Thread Greg Lehey
On Thursday, 30 September 1999 at 18:20:53 -0500, Jeffrey J. Mountin wrote: At 12:59 PM 9/28/99 +1000, Peter Jeremy wrote: On Tue, Sep 28, 1999 at 09:11:31AM +1000, Greg Lehey wrote: Good software shouldn't panic. I wish _I_ could convince some people of this :-(. It can be difficult to

Re: HEADS UP: sigset_t changes committed

1999-09-30 Thread Nate Williams
P.S. It is really hard for me to not make personal attacks against you after all of the above and completely ignoring the rest of my message. No, I didn't. My statement was that your 'confrontational' style of email wasn't making things any better. Mellow it out, and instead of attacking

Re: System crash on vinum start

1999-09-30 Thread Jeffrey J. Mountin
At 10:19 AM 10/1/99 +0930, Greg Lehey wrote: This is -CURRENT. Expect work in progress. From the commit log: replaceobject: Add preliminary code. This is not yet complete. Add keyword 'hotspare'. Yessir. Read -current, track commits, eat my veggies, get a bit of sun every other week, but

Re: new sigset_t and upgrading: a proposal

1999-09-30 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
On Thu, Sep 30, 1999 at 06:25:56AM -0700, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: Cons o Upgrading from 3.3 and before to -current is only possible after an upgrade to post 3.3. Not good. We recommend that 2.2.x people upgrade to the latest 2.2-STABLE offering before trying to jump

Re: System crash on vinum start

1999-09-30 Thread Greg Lehey
On Thursday, 30 September 1999 at 19:37:23 -0500, Jeffrey J. Mountin wrote: At 09:44 AM 10/1/99 +1000, Peter Jeremy wrote: I was thinking of some `production' code (written by a sister company) that I used to provide customer support for. It would regularly core dump (but was automatically

ata driver (again)

1999-09-30 Thread Kenneth Wayne Culver
The ata driver seems to be having problems staying in contact with my disks again. Let me know what details are needed to fix the problem, and I'll get in touch with you. = | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best OS

Re: System crash on vinum start

1999-09-30 Thread Jeffrey J. Mountin
At 10:57 AM 10/1/99 +0930, Greg Lehey wrote: You're not typical. But you *can* grow concatenated plexes. You just can't expand UFS to use the space. That's not a Vinum issue, but somebody's working on it. Yes, I realized that and donned a pointy hat. Root (/) and OS specific files are of

the libc_r problem

1999-09-30 Thread Kenneth Culver
I am still getting this error when trying to compile using libc_r.so.4: /usr/lib/libc_r.so: undefined reference to `_thread_sys_sigprocmask' Kenneth Culver To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

Re: Now that sigcontext is gone ...

1999-09-30 Thread John Polstra
Bruce Evans wrote: Sigcontext will have to come back, since it is a standard BSD interface. I think so too. I bet there are several ports besides Modula-3 that use it. Probably boehm-gc does. BTW, struct sigcontext seems to be documented only in sigreturn.2, and that documentation is more

Re: System crash on vinum start

1999-09-30 Thread Greg Lehey
On Thursday, 30 September 1999 at 20:54:39 -0500, Jeffrey J. Mountin wrote: At 10:57 AM 10/1/99 +0930, Greg Lehey wrote: You're not typical. But you *can* grow concatenated plexes. You just can't expand UFS to use the space. That's not a Vinum issue, but somebody's working on it. Yes, I

Re: HEADS UP: sigset_t changes committed

1999-09-30 Thread John-Mark Gurney
Nate Williams scribbled this message on Sep 30: P.S. It is really hard for me to not make personal attacks against you after all of the above and completely ignoring the rest of my message. No, I didn't. My statement was that your 'confrontational' style of email wasn't making things any

RE: ata driver (again)

1999-09-30 Thread Kenneth Wayne Culver
On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, Luke wrote: On 01-Oct-99 Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote: The ata driver seems to be having problems staying in contact with my disks again. Let me know what details are needed to fix the problem, and I'll get in touch with you. Hi I don't know if it is the

Dump device

1999-09-30 Thread German Tischler
Hi. dumpon -v /dev/da0s1b is failing here with dumpon: sysctl: kern.dumpdev: No space left on device Alright, it doesn't have minor number 1 as it is supposed to have from the manpage, but using /dev/da0b (supposed to be the same device) brings me to the same error. What am I doing wrong ?

Re: Dump device

1999-09-30 Thread Greg Lehey
On Friday, 1 October 1999 at 8:27:20 +0200, German Tischler wrote: Hi. dumpon -v /dev/da0s1b is failing here with dumpon: sysctl: kern.dumpdev: No space left on device Alright, it doesn't have minor number 1 as it is supposed to have from the manpage, but using /dev/da0b (supposed to

Re: ata driver (again)

1999-09-30 Thread Soren Schmidt
It seems Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote: On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, Luke wrote: On 01-Oct-99 Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote: The ata driver seems to be having problems staying in contact with my disks again. Let me know what details are needed to fix the problem, and I'll get in touch with you.

Re: HEADS UP: sigset_t changes committed

1999-09-30 Thread Marcel Moolenaar
John-Mark Gurney wrote: if people are interested, I can take a look at it... it'd be interesting to be able to do something like; make prep-installworld; rm -rf /usr/{sbin,bin,lib} /{bin,sbin}; make installworld and have it complete... :) Yes, please. Don't forget to install the newly