- Original Message -
From: Alexander Best arun...@freebsd.org
i just had the following idea: how about instead of copying the current kernel
to /boot/kernel.old and then installing the new one under /boot/kernel as the
results of target installkernel, we create a unique directory name
- Original Message -
From: Daan Vreeken d...@vehosting.nl
# vmstat -i
interrupt total rate
irq3: uart1 917384 63
-- irq16: ehci0 809547235 55608
Have you tried removing USB from the kernel?
USB seems
- Original Message -
From: Olivier Smedts oliv...@gid0.org
I tried it on my 8-STABLE box (root zpool v15 on 2 mirrored vdevs with
an usb l2 cache). I checked-out CURRENT sources with svn, applied the
patch (it applied cleanly). Did not modify kernel config (no
debugging) or make.conf.
- Original Message -
From: Olivier Smedts oliv...@gid0.org
make installworld
That's what I wanted to do, and why I rebooted single-user on the new
kernel. But isn't the v13-v15 userland supposed to work with the v28
kernel ?
Not if you have just upgrade from 8-STABLE to Current.
That's a good read for other things as Mike, thanks for taking the
time to pass on this knowledge :)
- Original Message -
From: Mike Haertel m...@ducky.net
To: ga...@freebsd.org
Anyway, just FYI, here's a quick summary of where GNU grep gets
its speed. Hopefully you can carry these
Out of interest I tried the first test here add ack into the mix we
I've grown to like as a developer as it uses some nice sensible
defaults for every day use avoiding svn etc.
Its a pure perl app so wasn't expecting it to be particularly quick
in the single file case, its much quicker in the
- Original Message -
From: Steve Kargl s...@troutmask.apl.washington.edu
Whereas switching the default back to GNU grep *guarantees*
neither unsophisticated nor sophosticated user will test
BSD grep.
It seems that you are letting a poor design decision with
respect to portmaster impair
- Original Message -
From: Andrew Thompson thom...@freebsd.org
On 15 August 2010 13:55, Doug Barton do...@freebsd.org wrote:
Our default grep should be significantly slower than the old grep because:
I think that new grep which is times slower than the old grep is still
in the
Is there an easy way to check which chip is present as the startup doesnt
seem to mention it?
igb0: Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Connection version - 1.9.5 port 0xec00-0xec1f mem
0xfade-0xfadf,0xfadc-0xfadd,0xfad9c000-0xfad9 irq 28 at device 0.0 on pci1
igb0: Using MSIX
there is a way to convert from the hex values to the human value
but not sure what it is?
Regards
Steve
- Original Message -
From: Jeremy Chadwick free...@jdc.parodius.com
To: Steven Hartland kill...@multiplay.co.uk
Cc: Jack Vogel jfvo...@gmail.com; FreeBSD Net freebsd-...@freebsd.org
Does anyone know of a nice how to guide for achieving this?
- Original Message -
From: Scott Long sco...@samsco.org
2. Partition alignment. If you're using classic MBR slices, everything gets misaligned by 63 sectors, making it impossible for
the controller to optimize both reads and
We use Supermicro here extensively and have never had a single problem
with them. We tend to combine them with Areca RAID cards which also work
well with FreeBSD.
Regards
Steve
- Original Message -
From: Juanito Cassemiro juan...@info2001.com.br
To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org
I have a Dell 4150 laptop using dhcp and ntpd on the
xl0 interface. I did ifconfig xl0 down and received
the following panic (hand transcribed :-( ).
panic: mtx_lock() of spin mutex (null) @ /usr/src/sys/netinet/ip_output.c:266
Stack backtrace:
backtrace()
panic()
panic: process 414(ntpd):2
Sam Leffler wrote:
On Friday 07 November 2003 12:54 pm, Steve Kargl wrote:
On Fri, Nov 07, 2003 at 11:31:45AM -0800, Steven G. Kargl wrote:
I have a Dell 4150 laptop using dhcp and ntpd on the
xl0 interface. I did ifconfig xl0 down and received
the following panic (hand transcribed
--- /usr/src/sys/modules/Makefile.orig Tue Sep 16 10:42:38 2003
+++ /usr/src/sys/modules/Makefile Tue Sep 16 10:42:54 2003
@@ -126,7 +126,6 @@
twe \
tx \
txp \
- uart \
ubsa \
ubsec \
ucom \
--
Steve
I sent this inquire to freebsd-question, but came up
empty with respect to solutions to the problem.
I have 2 accounts on my freebsd-current machine. I use
startx to start X11 as user kargl. If I then su to user
sgk, I cannot fire up X clients. For example,
troutmask:kargl[202] su sgk
Pat Lashley wrote:
--On Friday, September 05, 2003 23:13:29 -0700 Steven G. Kargl
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have 2 accounts on my freebsd-current machine. I use
startx to start X11 as user kargl. If I then su to user
sgk, I cannot fire up X clients. For example,
Try 'ssh -X
Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH wrote:
On Sat, 2003-09-06 at 02:13, Steven G. Kargl wrote:
I have 2 accounts on my freebsd-current machine. I use
startx to start X11 as user kargl. If I then su to user
sgk, I cannot fire up X clients. For example,
Is $XAUTHORITY still set in the subshell
Pat Lashley wrote:
--On Saturday, September 06, 2003 00:31:17 -0700 Steven G. Kargl
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't quite understand your suggestion.
I login as user kargl. I fire up X11
as user kargl with startx. I use su in a
xterm to connect to my alter ego (su sgk).
Now
Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH wrote:
On Sat, 2003-09-06 at 03:41, Steven G. Kargl wrote:
Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH wrote:
On Sat, 2003-09-06 at 02:13, Steven G. Kargl wrote:
I have 2 accounts on my freebsd-current machine. I use
startx to start X11 as user kargl. If I then su to user
David, Julian,
I updated my system today after David's KSE signal changes.
I'm sure if this is the cause of my problem, but linux-mozilla
no longer exits.
% linux-mozilla
... browse ...
crtl-q
% ps | grep mozilla
6032 v0 SL 0:00.02 /bin/sh ./run-mozilla.sh ./mozilla-bin
6037 v0 SL
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From: John-Mark Gurney [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Yes 5.X is still new tech and may not run on all machines but on the ones
which it does ( and it runs very well here ) basic tools are required. If
it doesn't run on a machine your under know false impressions, if however
sysctl machdep.hlt_logical_cpus:
machdep.hlt_logical_cpus: 1
Relevant sections from dmesg:
Programming 24 pins in IOAPIC #0
IOAPIC #0 intpin 2 - irq 0
Programming 24 pins in IOAPIC #1
Programming 24 pins in IOAPIC #2
FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs
cpu0 (BSP): apic id: 0,
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Doing initial network setup: hostname.
So it looks like it doesn't initialize SCSI stuff properly. as well as
some DMA problems with the 2nd QFE card. For the record, I recompiled
with the SCSI delay set to 15000, it made no difference
Cheers
Steven
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! Thanks :)
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On a related topic... how do you tell which of your filesystems are mounted
UFS1 -vs- UFS2? 'mount -v' just says ufs.
-Steve
- Original Message -
From: Ray Kohler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Vitaly Markitantov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 6:54 AM
Could someone add the following patch to UPDATING?
Change the words to whatever suits your fancy.
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--- UPDATING.orig Wed Nov 6 16:20:05 2002
+++ UPDATINGWed Nov 6 16:27:08 2002
@@ -17,6 +17,15 @@
developers choose to
M. Warner Losh said:
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Steven G. Kargl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
: Could someone add the following patch to UPDATING?
: Change the words to whatever suits your fancy.
I'm trying to devise a good way to deal with this breakage and hope it
is transient
M. Warner Losh said:
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Steven G. Kargl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
: M. Warner Losh said:
: In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
: Steven G. Kargl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
: : Could someone add the following patch to UPDATING?
: : Change
Thus spake Lucky Green [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I therefore believe that the 5.0 release represents a perfect
opportunity to remove ssh1 fallback from the default distribution of
FreeBSD and hope the FreeBSD team will consider this change.
Making SSH 2 the default is one thing. Removing SSH 1
- Original Message -
From: Terry Lambert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
So I upgrade, and I can't get back into the box from my SSH1
client machine to reenable SSH1 services on the box. Genius!
8-) 8-).
Its somewhat less than genious not to look over any new config
files you've installed to make
This commit by Peter breaks 3rd party software:
Revision 1.48 / (download) - annotate - [select for diffs], \
Fri Oct 11 22:38:17 2002 UTC (18 hours, 14 minutes ago) by peter
Branch: MAIN
Changes since 1.47: +0 -8 lines
Diff to previous 1.47 (colored)
Zap the early-adopter
Jeff Roberson said:
On Sat, 5 Oct 2002, Brian F. Feldman wrote:
Steven G. Kargl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The source tree was retrieved by cvsup
at 21:47 (PST) on Oct 4.
This is a non-GEOM and non-acpi kernel.
I have the core and kernel.debug, so any
further postmortem is possible
The source tree was retrieved by cvsup
at 21:47 (PST) on Oct 4.
This is a non-GEOM and non-acpi kernel.
I have the core and kernel.debug, so any
further postmortem is possible.
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panic: from debugger
panic messages:
---
panic: mutex vnode
Brian F. Feldman said:
Steven G. Kargl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The source tree was retrieved by cvsup
at 21:47 (PST) on Oct 4.
This is a non-GEOM and non-acpi kernel.
I have the core and kernel.debug, so any
further postmortem is possible.
I think the problem is that in src
Robert Watson said:
On Sat, 5 Oct 2002, Steven G. Kargl wrote:
One other point, the machine was doing a background fsck on /var. Does
a background fsck go through ffs_snapshot()?
Yes -- the background file system checker creates a snapshot of the file
system in the un-checked state
No update on the cpp0 error but I can get bind9 to stay running if I disable
threads in the Makefile... no more signal 6.
-Steve
New datapoint:
If I compile the kernel in the old fashion (config SB; cd ../compile/SB;
make depend all install) then the kernel compiles and installs fine.
Edit line 92 of sql/mysqld.cc:
--#ifdef __linux__
++ #ifdef __FreeBSD__
However that'll only get you past this set of errors. And then it gets
tricky and has something to do with the new C++ compiler that I haven't
quite wrapped my mind around yet.
-Steve
- Original Message -
Can someone close PR bin/37795? I am the originator
of the PR, and it no longer applies to current version
xinstall.
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Julian,
You may have fixed over the last few, but I haven't
had a chance to cvsup new sources.
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panic: vm_page_free: freeing wired page
panic: from debugger
Uptime: 39m56s
Dumping 128 MB
16 32 48 64 80 96 112
---
#0 0xc019c5cb in doadump
I'm not sure this is related to Julian's commit,
but the kernel sources are post-kse III commit.
I have the kernel and core file if more info
or access is needed.
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Script started on Sat Jun 29 18:36:22 2002
GNU gdb 5.2.0 (FreeBSD) 20020627
This looks like a causality of David's removal of gdb.291.
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makeinfo --no-validate -I /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/doc/../../../../contrib/
binutils/gas/doc -I /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/doc/../../../../contrib/binuti
ls/ld -I
The first patch fixes install(1). The reamining patches
correctly document the breakage of rev 1.55 of xinstall.c
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--- usr.bin/xinstall/xinstall.c.origThu Jun 6 22:45:29 2002
+++ usr.bin/xinstall/xinstall.c Fri Jun 7 17:55:44 2002
@@
J. Mallett said:
* From Steven G. Kargl [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The first patch fixes install(1). The reamining patches
correctly document the breakage of rev 1.55 of xinstall.c
I should have stated that if the first patch isn't
acceptable, then the remaining patches should be
applied
J. Mallett said:
* From Steven G. Kargl [EMAIL PROTECTED]
J. Mallett said:
No. The third patch is correct (see below); otherwise I could set
INSTALL to install -C QED.
And I could set BINOWN to something bogus.
Don't protect the user by removing functionality.
Well
I get the following panic (hand transribed):
Fatal trap 21: FPU bounds check fault while in kernel mode
instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc02433f5
stack pointer= 0x10:c040fc60
frame pointer= 0x10:c040fc7c
code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xf, type 0x1b
=
This applies to post gcc 3.1 upgrades.
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--- bsd.cpu.mk.orig Sat May 11 11:57:01 2002
+++ bsd.cpu.mk Sat May 11 12:00:49 2002
@@ -22,7 +22,7 @@
. elif ${CPUTYPE} == pentium
CPUTYPE = i586
. elif ${CPUTYPE} == athlon
-CPUTYPE = k7
=== bin/cp
cc -O -pipe -march=k6 -DVM_AND_BUFFER_CACHE_SYNCHRONIZED
-Werror -Wall -Wno-format-y2k -Wno-uninitialized -Wformat=2
-Wno-format-extra-args -Werror -c /home/src/bin/cp/cp.c
cc1: warnings being treated as errors
/home/src/bin/cp/cp.c: In function `copy':
/home/src/bin/cp/cp.c:275:
This is probably a known lock order reversals, but
I haven't seen it reported on the mailing list.
lock order reversal
1st 0xc403d720 PCPU 4096 (UMA cpu) @ /usr/src/sys/vm/uma_core.c:1179
2nd 0xc403d664 4096 (UMA zone) @ /usr/src/sys/vm/uma_core.c:614
3rd 0xc082a720 PCPU KMAP ENTRY (UMA cpu)
The recent changes to savecore/dumpsys are generating
the following message at boot:
Checking for core dump: Mediasize = 373293056
Sectorsize = 512
savecore: Parity error on last dump header on /dev/da0s2b
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lock order reversal
1st 0xc02d9b40 eventhandler @ /usr/src/sys/kern/subr_eventhandler.c:163
2nd 0xc4050008 shutdown_post_sync @ /usr/src/sys/kern/subr_eventhandler.c:116
lock order reversal
1st 0xc882cd00 ithread @ /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_intr.c:187
2nd 0xc02aa0e0 allproc @
I suspect that this a mozilla problem, but I only recently
have run into this. Rebuilt world and kernel from -current
sources from Dec 13 16:15 PDT. If I open the mail/news
component of mozilla, and try to change the view to only
unread messages X11 freezes.
Switching to a vty and running
Is there a problem with building a new freebsd current system of the disk
set? I do not see to be able to accomplish this due to the fact that none
of the file systems mount (except root) as part of the configuration setup
process.
I have had this problem with 11/07/01, 11/10/01, 11/11/01.
I have the core file, kernel, and kernel.debug if
some one needs access let me know. Source is from
9 am PST.
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Script started on Sat Nov 3 12:25:23 2001
GNU gdb 4.18
Copyright 1998 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
GDB is free software,
I'm sure this is pilot error, but ...
I updated a pre june 13th current to a july 3 current.
Ran mergemaster and installed /etc/diskcheckd.conf
without modification. Upon reboot I saw 1000s of the
following message streaming up the console:
dscheck(cd0): bio_bcount 512 is not on a sector
Ben Smithurst said:
Steven G. Kargl wrote:
last message repeated 3 times
diskcheckd[213]: error reading 512 bytes from sector 0 on /dev/cd0
I was gonna commit a fix for this, but after reporting the problem DES
never tested the patch I supplied. :-(
I'll commit it later hopefully
The Portland Group's linux Fortran compiler used to work
without a problem, but something has changed that I haven't
track down. The script(1) log below suggests two possibilities:
(1) the translation of linux syscalls to FreeBSD syscalls isn't
working; or (2) the linux ld command (see log)
I've recently upgraded a system to 384 MB of memory,
which the system detects during boot. Dmesg reports
real memory = 402587648 (393152K bytes)
avail memory = 387903488 (378812K bytes)
with or without 'options MAXMEM "(384*1024)"' and
"sysctl -a | grep hw" reports
hw.physmem:
With the great libc debacle of 2001, I have not tried
to update my system for about 2 weeks. In that time I
may have missed the commit message that said that USER_LDT, which was needed
for at least wine, was removed.
root[221] cd /usr/src/
root[222] setenv KERNCONF `hostname -s`
root[223] make
-CURRENT as of yesterday was still causing my system to lock (with
'make -j8 world'). Lock=no possibility of debugger.
I have two of these systems and they behave identically. If someone with
lots more debugging experience would benefit from borrowing one of the
machines I'd happily send it to
It seems to only do it SMP... the same machine built with a non-SMP
kernel (same source code) runs just fine for extended periods.
-Steve
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From: "Soren Schmidt" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Boris Popov" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: "Valentin Chopov" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL
There is another patch needed in libdialog.
Steve
*** /usr/src/lib/libc_r/uthread/uthread_wait4.c.origSun Oct 15 11:16:02 2000
--- /usr/src/lib/libc_r/uthread/uthread_wait4.c Sun Oct 15 11:16:45 2000
***
*** 32,37
--- 32,38
* $FreeBSD:
*** /usr/src/gnu/lib/libdialog/prgbox.c.origSun Oct 15 12:44:15 2000
--- /usr/src/gnu/lib/libdialog/prgbox.c Sun Oct 15 12:44:36 2000
***
*** 21,26
--- 21,27
#include dialog.h
#include errno.h
+ #include sys/types.h
#include sys/wait.h
#include
Sure. This can be done with no problems. It is, in fact, a good way to
put the same OS on multiple machines.
-Steve
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2000 5:26 PM
Subject: NFS /usr/src and /usr/obj?
I'm wondering how one
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I try to install FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT snapshot on
server with have mylex accele raid 250 controler.
FreeBSD installs on it without any problems, but
can't boot from i
Agreed. -CURRENT is all about development. New ideas will be tried,
sometimes (sometimes a lot :) things are going to be broke.
I switched to the new ATA driver on Monday. Seems to work but I have
some questions.
Could someone (sos?) post a quick primer on how to read the probe
messages? With
ad0: QUANTUM FIREBALL ST2.1A/A0F.0800 ATA-3 disk at ata0 as master
ad0: 2014MB (4124736 sectors), 4092 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S
ad0: 16 secs/int, 1 depth queue, DMA
acd0: MATSHITA CR-583/AS10 CDROM drive at ata1 as master
acd0: read 1378KB/s (1378KB/s), 128KB buffer, PIO
acd0:
According to Poul-Henning Kamp:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Steven G. Kar
gl" writes:
During the boot process I see
dumpon: crash dumps to /dev/da0s1b (4, 131073)
checking for core dump...savecore: can't find device 13/131073
It seems that the the major device numbe
According to Matthew Dillon:
:dumpon: crash dumps to /dev/da0s1b (4, 131073)
:checking for core dump...savecore: can't find device 13/131073
:
: It seems that the the major device number is reset from 4 to 13.
:
: Yes, all dev_t's which make it out of the kernel have cmajor
:
Last night switched from 3.1 to 4.0. Smooth transition. The only
error I've seen is one of my ethernet cards is no longer detected.
In the previous kernel (3.1-STABLE) I had the following config
line:
device ed0 at isa? port 0x280 net irq 10 iomem 0xd8000
When the system booted it would detect
device ed0 at isa? port 0x280 net irq 10 iomem 0xd8000
You should probably show the list what device lines you are using for
current, since config barfs on the above line under current:
config: line 52: `net' interrupt label obsolete
Fair enough:
device ed1 at isa? port 0x280 irq 10
On 18-May-99 Steven Ames wrote:
Wow. I don't think that should ever happen but at this point I'll
try a lot of things :)
Tried it. didn't work.
really, isn't there a way to enable more verbose probing so that
it says 'ed0 not found at 0x280' or some such?
When I upgraded
*sigh* No suprise here. As 90% of these things are this was yet
another Dumb User Error. I had a base address conflict that kept
the card from being probed.
Thanks for everyone's help. As always FreeBSD is working just
great!
-Steve
To
I have received more email today related to SPAM than I have actual SPAM
in the last month+ What has triggered this solution looking for a problem?
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On Sat, 1 May 1999, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:
haveseen_isadev() called - FIXME!
(about 10 times)
This appears to happen around the bt_isa (Buslogic) probe. Is that of
any help?
- Jordan
And, it happens even if the bt device driver is not configured into the
kernel...
To
?
Steven S.
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On Wed, 21 Apr 1999, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
On Wed, 21 Apr 1999, Kevin Day wrote:
Try mounting with -d... Can I make a guess that the NFS mount is going over
100MB ethernet? I have a strong theory that the dynamic retransmit timer
needs rework for low latency connections, with high
FYI.
The recent commit to move sys/sys/lkm.h to the attic breaks
make world is sys/module/joy.
1.19 Mon Apr 19 14:19:52 1999 UTC by peter
CVS Tags: HEAD
Diffs to 1.18
FILE REMOVED
Zap LKM option and support. Farewell old friend.
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Well, a kernel built today results in an infinite boot/re-boot cycle on
my system (SMP, Tomcat IV). Never gets to a point where a proper
dump/tombstone happens. Sorry, no definitive trace here...
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On Thu, Apr 01, 1999 at 11:55:23AM +0900, Daniel C. Sobral wrote:
Brian Beattie wrote:
writing it would be a pain) because the only pccard scsi cards that are
out there are aic-6[23]60 based.
Not having a pcmcia slot or card, I am not sure about support for this.
Once aic6[23]60
Is there any IPSEC support available for current? I've found support for
2.2.8, but not so far for current.
Steven P. Donegan email: done...@quick.net
Sr. Network Infrastructure Engineer ICBM: N 33' 47.538/W 117' 59.687
WANG Global
In addition to Irix 6.5, you should also add Irix 6.3 and 6.4 to that list.
It's been there since 6.3 first shipped on the O2s in '97.
-steve
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[mailto:owner-freebsd-curr...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of John Fieber
Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 1999 12:41 PM
To:
Where might I find 4.0 - I've got another development machine available
for some thrashing. TIA.
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Yesterday I tried to ftp a current set of floppies from
current.freebsd.org - nothing there but 2.2.X stuff - 3.0 tree gone and
no 4.X tree apparent. Today I get connection refused at that site. ANy
pointers to a current tree would be appreciated. TIA.
Steven P. Donegan
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