Re: Syscons flag to turn off random_harvest in scmouse?

2000-11-30 Thread Doug Barton
On Mon, 27 Nov 2000, Mark Murray wrote: I wasn't screaming for a backout, I asked for a way to turn off harvesting from the mouse code. You're the one that started in, I just responded in the same condescending manner you used with me. If I was condescending, then I apologise. I am

Re: Syscons flag to turn off random_harvest in scmouse?

2000-11-27 Thread Mark Murray
| That is a _great_ source of entropy. So are disk and network accesses, I don't see harvesting code being sprinkled inside them. Probably because more people would scream if their network or disk performance died. Those are on their way. | Please explain "ill advised". Your system

Re: Syscons flag to turn off random_harvest in scmouse?

2000-11-27 Thread Andrew Kenneth Milton
+---[ Mark Murray ]-- | | That is a _great_ source of entropy. | | So are disk and network accesses, I don't see harvesting code being | sprinkled inside them. Probably because more people would scream if their | network or disk performance died. | | Those are on

Re: Syscons flag to turn off random_harvest in scmouse?

2000-11-27 Thread Mark Murray
| Screaming for backout is not. I wasn't screaming for a backout, I asked for a way to turn off harvesting from the mouse code. You're the one that started in, I just responded in the same condescending manner you used with me. If I was condescending, then I apologise. I am somewhat

Syscons flag to turn off random_harvest in scmouse?

2000-11-26 Thread Andrew Kenneth Milton
+---[ Andrew Kenneth Milton ]-- | I've now tried 5 different Sound Cards in an effort to find one that doesn't | spew | | pcm0: hwptr went backwards 2060 - 1872 Ok so I've been told this is related to the random module. Having had a look through the code I now

Re: Syscons flag to turn off random_harvest in scmouse?

2000-11-26 Thread Mark Murray
Ok so I've been told this is related to the random module. Related, sure, but the real problem is elsewhere. Having had a look through the code I now understand what the problem is. I think that for those people using /dev/sysmouse under X that having random_harvest in scmouse.c is

Re: Syscons flag to turn off random_harvest in scmouse?

2000-11-26 Thread Andrew Kenneth Milton
+---[ Mark Murray ]-- | Ok so I've been told this is related to the random module. | | Related, sure, but the real problem is elsewhere. | | Having had a look through the code I now understand what the problem is. | | I think that for those people using /dev/sysmouse

Re: Syscons flag to turn off random_harvest in scmouse?

2000-11-26 Thread Kazutaka YOKOTA
To be fair, if the random module depends that badly on getting entropy from the mouse it isn't much good for many of our users who may not even have a mouse, keyboard or console. (Even when using X, personally I use the mouse as little as possible. On some of our servers the console is rarely

Re: Syscons flag to turn off random_harvest in scmouse?

2000-11-26 Thread Mark Murray
I think the yarrow stuff is probably somewhat more roubust than requiring the mouse - as long as there is some source of entropy. What other sources does the random device currently use? Currently - keyboard and mouse. RSN, also interrupts and network activity. M -- Mark Murray Join the