Re: The Matrix screensaver, v.0.2

1999-09-09 Thread dannyman
On Sun, Aug 22, 1999 at 05:02:00PM -0400, Chuck Robey wrote: On Sun, 22 Aug 1999, Ollivier Robert wrote: That very important... The screensaver triggered me to see the movie again. A. I love it. Yeah, it's gotta be the perfect hacker's movie. Sneakers is always fun. :) -d --

Re: The Matrix screensaver, v.0.2

1999-08-27 Thread Neil Blakey-Milner
On Fri 1999-08-27 (10:25), Nick Hibma wrote: I seriously doubt they'll win this lawsuit. You can sue someone for anything and everything, including having a hair color which ^ in the States Or if you're a US company. Wasn't it (the Irish?) McMuffin which

Re: The Matrix screensaver, v.0.2

1999-08-27 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
I seriously doubt they'll win this lawsuit. You can sue someone for anything and everything, including having a hair color which ^ in the States Sorry, I've lived in Europe, you can't pull that one on me. :) In Germany, for example, it's possible to sue someone

Re: The Matrix screensaver, v.0.2

1999-08-27 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message 8062.935743977@localhost, "Jordan K. Hubbard" writes: I seriously doubt they'll win this lawsuit. You can sue someone for anything and everything, including having a hair color which ^ in the States Sorry, I've lived in Europe, you can't pull that one

Re: The Matrix screensaver, v.0.2

1999-08-27 Thread Ville-Pertti Keinonen
Poul-Henning Kamp [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The third difference is that we only use jurys in murder cases, we fully realize the ability of a showman-laywer to sway a jury, therefore we don't use them, unless the issue is the gravest crime we know off. That doesn't seem quite valid, it

Re: The Matrix screensaver, v.0.2

1999-08-27 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ville-Pertti Keinonen writes: Poul-Henning Kamp [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The third difference is that we only use jurys in murder cases, we fully realize the ability of a showman-laywer to sway a jury, therefore we don't use them, unless the issue is the

Re: The Matrix screensaver, v.0.2

1999-08-27 Thread Adrian Penisoara
Hi, On Mon, 23 Aug 1999, Peter Wemm wrote: Maybe we *should* go approach the producers? I have gone to that movie several times, and I keep on enjoying it, so this is GOOD PR for them. Tell them there will be a reference to the movie web site or something. ;-) Actually the FreeBSD

Re: The Matrix screensaver, v.0.2

1999-08-27 Thread Adrian Penisoara
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Re: The Matrix screensaver, v.0.2

1999-08-27 Thread Bill Fumerola
On 27 Aug 1999, Ville-Pertti Keinonen wrote: Of course this is getting off topic, or have there been any FreeBSD-current related homicides that I haven't heard about? ;--) Have there even been any actual trials directly related to FreeBSD? There was a signup sheet going around at the last

Re: The Matrix screensaver, v.0.2

1999-08-27 Thread Andrzej Bialecki
On Wed, 25 Aug 1999, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: I'm sorry you got so beaten up over this one. All due respect to the contributors aside, I think we have too many old women around here, all shrieking and holding up their skirts at the rumor of a mouse somewhere in the building. :) As I said,

Re[2]: The Matrix screensaver, v.0.2

1999-08-27 Thread Alexander Sanda
On 27.08.1999, 10:52, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: Sorry, I've lived in Europe, you can't pull that one on me. :) In Germany, for example, it's possible to sue someone simply for sticking their finger against their forehead. The myth that only the U.S. is litigious is just that, a myth.

Re: The Matrix screensaver, v.0.2

1999-08-26 Thread Warner Losh
In message 15454.935598612@localhost "Jordan K. Hubbard" writes: : I think people are being almost clinically paranoid here. Hasbro and : folks got upset over TRADEMARK infringement, e.g. from using a name : they had trademarked. I rather doubt that Warner Bros. have managed : to trademark the

Re: The Matrix screensaver, v.0.2

1999-08-25 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
But it's not going into the tree, no. I think Kevin's point and the experiences we had with Hasbro should already have convinced people of that much. I think people are being almost clinically paranoid here. Hasbro and folks got upset over TRADEMARK infringement, e.g. from using a name

Re: The Matrix screensaver, v.0.2

1999-08-25 Thread Mike Smith
But it's not going into the tree, no. I think Kevin's point and the experiences we had with Hasbro should already have convinced people of that much. I think people are being almost clinically paranoid here. Hasbro and folks got upset over TRADEMARK infringement, e.g. from using a

Re: The Matrix screensaver, v.0.2

1999-08-25 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
The issue with boggle and tetris wasn't the name, it was "look and feel". No, it was the name. Believe me, I read the letters we got from their lawyers. :) Unless we produce a movie with the name "Matrix" somewhere in it, I doubt we're going to be in the same boat. Hasbro objected to our

Re: The Matrix screensaver, v.0.2

1999-08-23 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
Kevin Day wrote: ... If this is distributed as a fan based thing, the worst they'd likely do is say "Take it down.". If this is on thousands of FreeBSD cd's, it could become a financial problem if they want to take it far enough. This is just my opinion though, and not to be used as legal

Re: The Matrix screensaver, v.0.2

1999-08-23 Thread Mike Smith
Kevin Day wrote: ... If this is distributed as a fan based thing, the worst they'd likely do is say "Take it down.". If this is on thousands of FreeBSD cd's, it could become a financial problem if they want to take it far enough. This is just my opinion though, and not to be used

Re: The Matrix screensaver, v.0.2

1999-08-23 Thread Narvi
On Mon, 23 Aug 1999, Andrzej Bialecki wrote: On Mon, 23 Aug 1999, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: Let me retract the Ghost in the Shell statement. I just checked, and my memory played tricks on me. It was a different letter effect. :-) Andrzej, can you somehow turn it into a parody? If

Re: The Matrix screensaver, v.0.2

1999-08-23 Thread Wilko Bulte
As Mike Smith wrote ... Kevin Day wrote: This is just my opinion though, and not to be used as legal advice for anyone. I just don't want FreeBSD to become a ball of intellectual property infringements. :) Let me retract the Ghost in the Shell statement. I just checked, and my

Re: The Matrix screensaver, v.0.2

1999-08-22 Thread Nick Hibma
Anyway, this module was meant more as a joke, but if you guys like it so much you could vote for putting it in the tree... It's extremely small, so why not? Got my vote. :-) Yes, you have my 7 votes as well (my department thinks it is cool as well. Or at least that is what I think they

Re: The Matrix screensaver, v.0.2

1999-08-22 Thread Andrzej Bialecki
On Sat, 21 Aug 1999, Kevin Day wrote: A Anyway, this module was meant more as a joke, but if you guys like it so much you could vote for putting it in the tree... What do you mean "vote"? I was waiting for it to show up on my tree after a cvsup! I hate to keep bringing things like

Re: The Matrix screensaver, v.0.2

1999-08-22 Thread Narvi
On Sun, 22 Aug 1999, Andrzej Bialecki wrote: On Sat, 21 Aug 1999, Kevin Day wrote: I hate to keep bringing things like this up, or start a legal war, but this screensaver is more than likely a copyright and/or trademark violation, and bringing it into the source tree may not be a

Re: The Matrix screensaver, v.0.2

1999-08-22 Thread Kevin Day
On Sun, 22 Aug 1999, Andrzej Bialecki wrote: On Sat, 21 Aug 1999, Kevin Day wrote: I hate to keep bringing things like this up, or start a legal war, but this screensaver is more than likely a copyright and/or trademark violation, and bringing it into the source tree may not

Re: The Matrix screensaver, v.0.2

1999-08-22 Thread Kevin Day
At 06:44 PM 8/22/99 +0200, Andrzej Bialecki wrote: On Sun, 22 Aug 1999, Kevin Day wrote: [trademark violation warning] Ok, maybe you have a point - I dont know, I'm not a lawyer. But with this line of reasoning they could claim that anything using falling letters effect on your screen partly

Re: The Matrix screensaver, v.0.2

1999-08-22 Thread Narvi
On Sun, 22 Aug 1999, Kevin Day wrote: On Sun, 22 Aug 1999, Andrzej Bialecki wrote: On Sat, 21 Aug 1999, Kevin Day wrote: I hate to keep bringing things like this up, or start a legal war, but this screensaver is more than likely a copyright and/or trademark

Re: The Matrix screensaver, v.0.2

1999-08-22 Thread Ollivier Robert
According to Narvi: "Falling letters like in the movie with red bills" Pill :) That very important... The screensaver triggered me to see the movie again. A. I love it. -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! -=- [EMAIL PROTECTED] FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 4.0-CURRENT

Re: The Matrix screensaver, v.0.2

1999-08-22 Thread Chuck Robey
On Sun, 22 Aug 1999, Ollivier Robert wrote: According to Narvi: "Falling letters like in the movie with red bills" Pill :) That very important... The screensaver triggered me to see the movie again. A. I love it. Yeah, it's gotta be the perfect hacker's movie. Maybe we

Re: The Matrix screensaver, v.0.2

1999-08-22 Thread Nick Hibma
Maybe we *should* go approach the producers? I have gone to that movie several times, and I keep on enjoying it, so this is GOOD PR for them. Tell them there will be a reference to the movie web site or something. ;-) Or tell them that the URL to the website appears once in a while in

Re: The Matrix screensaver, v.0.2

1999-08-22 Thread Sebastian Soenksen
On Sun, Aug 22, 1999 at 11:46:14PM +0200, Nick Hibma wrote: Tell them there will be a reference to the movie web site or something. ;-) Or tell them that the URL to the website appears once in a while in the mishmash, sublimal advertisements. Just make sure you speak to the marketing drones

Re: The Matrix screensaver, v.0.2

1999-08-22 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
On Sun, 22 Aug 1999, Ollivier Robert wrote: According to Narvi: "Falling letters like in the movie with red bills" Pill :) That very important... The screensaver triggered me to see the movie again. A. I love it. Yeah, it's gotta be the perfect hacker's movie.

Re: The Matrix screensaver, v.0.2

1999-08-22 Thread Chuck Robey
On Sun, 22 Aug 1999, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: On Sun, 22 Aug 1999, Ollivier Robert wrote: According to Narvi: "Falling letters like in the movie with red bills" Pill :) That very important... The screensaver triggered me to see the movie again. A. I love

Re: The Matrix screensaver, v.0.2

1999-08-21 Thread Nik Clayton
On Fri, Aug 20, 1999 at 07:34:31PM +0200, Andrzej Bialecki wrote: Both versions are available at: http://www.freebsd.org/~abial/matrix_3.2.tgz http://www.freebsd.org/~abial/matrix_4.0.tgz I knew I should have taken the blue pill. FWIW, there are at least two other 'matrix'

Re: The Matrix screensaver, v.0.2

1999-08-21 Thread Kevin Day
At 10:26 AM 8/21/99 +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: On Fri, Aug 20, 1999 at 07:34:31PM +0200, Andrzej Bialecki wrote: Both versions are available at: http://www.freebsd.org/~abial/matrix_3.2.tgz http://www.freebsd.org/~abial/matrix_4.0.tgz FWIW, there are at least two other 'matrix'

Re: The Matrix screensaver, v.0.2

1999-08-21 Thread Andreas Braukmann
On Fri, Aug 20, 1999 at 08:10:51PM -0400, Keith Stevenson wrote: On Fri, Aug 20, 1999 at 04:11:42PM -0600, Oscar Bonilla wrote: then xlock already includes a module for this... I'm using it on my laptop.. ... ahh. ... Meanwhile I've updated my xlock to xlockmore-4.14 including 'the matrix'.

Re: The Matrix screensaver, v.0.2

1999-08-21 Thread Doug
Andrzej Bialecki wrote: Hi, Due to unexpected demand . . . Ok, I have to say that pretty much rocks. :) Any chance of making an X version of this? The guy in the cube across from mine and I are both big science fiction fans, and he would turn *cough* green with envy . . . Doug

Re: The Matrix screensaver, v.0.2

1999-08-21 Thread Chris Dillon
On Sun, 22 Aug 1999, Andrzej Bialecki wrote: Anyway, this module was meant more as a joke, but if you guys like it so much you could vote for putting it in the tree... It's extremely small, so why not? Got my vote. :-) -- Chris Dillon - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED] FreeBSD: The

Re: The Matrix screensaver, v.0.2

1999-08-21 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
Kevin Day wrote: A Anyway, this module was meant more as a joke, but if you guys like it so much you could vote for putting it in the tree... What do you mean "vote"? I was waiting for it to show up on my tree after a cvsup! I hate to keep bringing things like this up, or start a

The Matrix screensaver, v.0.2

1999-08-20 Thread Andrzej Bialecki
Hi, Due to unexpected demand (I did it mostly as a distraction from real work), I backported this screensaver to 3.2-RELEASE (don't know about STABLE), and corrected some inconsistencies. I added also binary versions to the archives. Both versions are available at:

Re: The Matrix screensaver, v.0.2

1999-08-20 Thread Julian Elischer
oh THAT screen... quite a giggle.. On Fri, 20 Aug 1999, Andrzej Bialecki wrote: Hi, Due to unexpected demand (I did it mostly as a distraction from real work), I backported this screensaver to 3.2-RELEASE (don't know about STABLE), and corrected some inconsistencies. I added also binary

Re: The Matrix screensaver, v.0.2

1999-08-20 Thread Andrzej Bialecki
On Fri, 20 Aug 1999, Julian Elischer wrote: oh THAT screen... quite a giggle.. c'mon, you didn't expect me to put an intro scene from the movie, did you? Yeah, that's something - MPEG screensaver... only a few GB. I need to think about it. 8-)) Andrzej Bialecki // [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: The Matrix screensaver, v.0.2

1999-08-20 Thread Bill Fumerola
On Fri, 20 Aug 1999, Andrzej Bialecki wrote: c'mon, you didn't expect me to put an intro scene from the movie, did you? Yeah, that's something - MPEG screensaver... only a few GB. I need to think about it. I wonder where in phk's rules for binary files in the tree that would fall. Just make

Re: The Matrix screensaver, v.0.2

1999-08-20 Thread Andrzej Bialecki
On Fri, 20 Aug 1999, Nick Hibma wrote: oh THAT screen... quite a giggle.. Have you seen the source ... very neat and short. Pitty that it consumes 2% intr time. Oh, there is still much room for improvement here... if there is any interest, that is. :-) Andrzej Bialecki // [EMAIL

Re: The Matrix screensaver, v.0.2

1999-08-20 Thread Kevin S. Brackett
On Fri, 20 Aug 1999, Andrzej Bialecki wrote: Hi, Due to unexpected demand (I did it mostly as a distraction from real work), I backported this screensaver to 3.2-RELEASE (don't know about STABLE), and corrected some inconsistencies. I added also binary versions to the archives. LOL! I

Re: The Matrix screensaver, v.0.2

1999-08-20 Thread Nick Hibma
oh THAT screen... quite a giggle.. Have you seen the source ... very neat and short. Pitty that it consumes 2% intr time. Oh, there is still much room for improvement here... if there is any interest, that is. :-) Like rewriting the syscons driver again, to make your 10 line

Re: The Matrix screensaver, v.0.2

1999-08-20 Thread Andreas Braukmann
Hi, On Fri, Aug 20, 1999 at 07:34:31PM +0200, Andrzej Bialecki wrote: Due to unexpected demand (I did it mostly as a distraction from real work), I backported this screensaver to 3.2-RELEASE (don't know about ... I saw the announcement for the first release, realised that it's only for

Re: The Matrix screensaver, v.0.2

1999-08-20 Thread Oscar Bonilla
On Fri, Aug 20, 1999 at 11:50:25PM +0200, Andreas Braukmann wrote: Hi, On Fri, Aug 20, 1999 at 07:34:31PM +0200, Andrzej Bialecki wrote: Due to unexpected demand (I did it mostly as a distraction from real work), I backported this screensaver to 3.2-RELEASE (don't know about ... I saw

Re: The Matrix screensaver, v.0.2

1999-08-20 Thread Keith Stevenson
On Fri, Aug 20, 1999 at 04:11:42PM -0600, Oscar Bonilla wrote: I haven't seen Andrzej's screensaver, but if it is about those green letters that fall from the top of the screen (aka the matrix) then xlock already includes a module for this... I'm using it on my laptop.. I like Andrzej's

Re: The Matrix screensaver, v.0.2

1999-08-20 Thread Kevin S. Brackett
On Fri, 20 Aug 1999, Keith Stevenson wrote: On Fri, Aug 20, 1999 at 04:11:42PM -0600, Oscar Bonilla wrote: I haven't seen Andrzej's screensaver, but if it is about those green letters that fall from the top of the screen (aka the matrix) then xlock already includes a module for this...