Re: Turning TESTS on by default

2014-06-10 Thread Glen Barber
On Mon, Jun 09, 2014 at 07:27:43PM -0400, Glen Barber wrote: On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 02:15:06AM +0300, Konstantin Belousov wrote: On Sun, Jun 08, 2014 at 04:36:45PM -0400, Glen Barber wrote: On Sun, Jun 08, 2014 at 01:33:31PM -0700, Adrian Chadd wrote: Now, as for how much bloat it adds

Re: Turning TESTS on by default

2014-06-10 Thread Julio Merino
On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 4:54 PM, Glen Barber g...@freebsd.org wrote: After reviewing Julio's proposed changes, I realize that there is a way to avoid populating /usr/tests when building the on-disc filesystem. I think this will also apply to the WITH_DEBUG_FILES=1 case mentioned. It seems I

Re: Turning TESTS on by default

2014-06-09 Thread Konstantin Belousov
On Sun, Jun 08, 2014 at 04:36:45PM -0400, Glen Barber wrote: On Sun, Jun 08, 2014 at 01:33:31PM -0700, Adrian Chadd wrote: Now, as for how much bloat it adds to the CD images... Enough that it will be turned off for the CDs. I wanted to answer that we should split the question into two,

Re: Turning TESTS on by default

2014-06-09 Thread Glen Barber
On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 02:15:06AM +0300, Konstantin Belousov wrote: On Sun, Jun 08, 2014 at 04:36:45PM -0400, Glen Barber wrote: On Sun, Jun 08, 2014 at 01:33:31PM -0700, Adrian Chadd wrote: Now, as for how much bloat it adds to the CD images... Enough that it will be turned off

Re: Turning TESTS on by default

2014-06-08 Thread Julio Merino
On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 11:33 PM, Konstantin Belousov kostik...@gmail.com wrote: It is the same as the debugging kernel. The INVARIANTS, WITNESS, DEBUG and DIAGNOSTIC options are not enabled for the user consumption. No; this is not the same at all. All the options you mention introduce a

Re: Turning TESTS on by default

2014-06-08 Thread Julio Merino
On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Konstantin Belousov kostik...@gmail.com wrote: Could somebody point out a popular software system that spills the tests or other developer-only[*] stuff into the production install ? I immediately remember the perl and its modules which have very extensive test

Re: Turning TESTS on by default

2014-06-08 Thread Warren Block
On Sun, 8 Jun 2014, Julio Merino wrote: On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 11:33 PM, Konstantin Belousov kostik...@gmail.com wrote: It is the same as the debugging kernel. The INVARIANTS, WITNESS, DEBUG and DIAGNOSTIC options are not enabled for the user consumption. No; this is not the same at all. All

Re: Turning TESTS on by default

2014-06-08 Thread Julio Merino
On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 1:50 PM, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote: How much of an impact does the test suite have in terms of disk space (probably not much) It clocks at 11MB now on amd64. and buildworld time (possibly not much, either)? Haven't measured. Note, though, that the majority

Re: Turning TESTS on by default

2014-06-08 Thread Adrian Chadd
On 8 June 2014 11:52, Julio Merino j...@freebsd.org wrote: On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 1:50 PM, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote: How much of an impact does the test suite have in terms of disk space (probably not much) It clocks at 11MB now on amd64. and buildworld time (possibly not much,

Re: Turning TESTS on by default

2014-06-08 Thread Glen Barber
On Sun, Jun 08, 2014 at 01:33:31PM -0700, Adrian Chadd wrote: Now, as for how much bloat it adds to the CD images... Enough that it will be turned off for the CDs. Glen pgpSgQfS5INoO.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Turning TESTS on by default

2014-06-07 Thread Alan Somers
On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 9:33 PM, Konstantin Belousov kostik...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 06, 2014 at 03:14:52PM -0400, Julio Merino wrote: Hello all, TL;DR - I plan to turn the TESTS src.conf knob ON by default on Tuesday once I have been able to perform enough sanity-checks of the

Re: Turning TESTS on by default

2014-06-07 Thread Konstantin Belousov
On Sat, Jun 07, 2014 at 12:31:01PM -0600, Alan Somers wrote: On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 9:33 PM, Konstantin Belousov kostik...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 06, 2014 at 03:14:52PM -0400, Julio Merino wrote: Hello all, TL;DR - I plan to turn the TESTS src.conf knob ON by default

Turning TESTS on by default

2014-06-06 Thread Julio Merino
Hello all, TL;DR - I plan to turn the TESTS src.conf knob ON by default on Tuesday once I have been able to perform enough sanity-checks of the build and all of them pass. The impact of this is that the FreeBSD Test Suite (see tests(7)) will be built and installed by default under

Re: Turning TESTS on by default

2014-06-06 Thread Jilles Tjoelker
On Fri, Jun 06, 2014 at 03:14:52PM -0400, Julio Merino wrote: TL;DR - I plan to turn the TESTS src.conf knob ON by default on Tuesday once I have been able to perform enough sanity-checks of the build and all of them pass. The impact of this is that the FreeBSD Test Suite (see

Re: Turning TESTS on by default

2014-06-06 Thread Julio Merino
On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 3:50 PM, Jilles Tjoelker jil...@stack.nl wrote: This is certainly useful, but please fix installworld from a read-only (e.g. NFS) /usr/obj first. I reported this a while ago in http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-testing/2014-May/000384.html build Kyuafile.auto

Re: Turning TESTS on by default

2014-06-06 Thread Kubilay Kocak
On 7/06/2014 5:14 AM, Julio Merino wrote: Hello all, TL;DR - I plan to turn the TESTS src.conf knob ON by default on Tuesday once I have been able to perform enough sanity-checks of the build and all of them pass. The impact of this is that the FreeBSD Test Suite (see tests(7))

Re: Turning TESTS on by default

2014-06-06 Thread Konstantin Belousov
On Fri, Jun 06, 2014 at 03:14:52PM -0400, Julio Merino wrote: Hello all, TL;DR - I plan to turn the TESTS src.conf knob ON by default on Tuesday once I have been able to perform enough sanity-checks of the build and all of them pass. The impact of this is that the FreeBSD Test