floppy install [was: cvs commit: src/release/i386 drivers.conf]

2003-11-18 Thread Peter Schultz
Jun Kuriyama wrote: kuriyama2003/11/12 00:08:16 PST FreeBSD src repository Modified files: release/i386 drivers.conf Log: Move cd9660 module from 3rd floppy to 2nd to unbreak release. Revision ChangesPath 1.31 +1 -1 src/release/i386/drivers.conf

Re: cvs commit: src/release/i386 drivers.conf

2002-07-27 Thread Peter Wemm
Terry Lambert wrote: M. Warner Losh wrote: : Think CDROM install. Dude, what crack are you smoking? How many times to we have to tell you. We have a boot loader that knows how to read the kernel from the cdrom or scsi or whatever. IT is a tiny increment to also load additional

Re: cvs commit: src/release/i386 drivers.conf

2002-07-27 Thread Peter Wemm
Terry Lambert wrote: M. Warner Losh wrote: I've noticed that some of the older cam drivers are about all that is in the way of making CAM truly loadable. By that I mean having a kernel with all supported devices that aren't loadable forces CAM to be in the kernel because some of the

Re: cvs commit: src/release/i386 drivers.conf

2002-07-27 Thread John Baldwin
On 25-Jul-2002 Terry Lambert wrote: M. Warner Losh wrote: : Think CDROM install. Dude, what crack are you smoking? How many times to we have to tell you. We have a boot loader that knows how to read the kernel from the cdrom or scsi or whatever. IT is a tiny increment to also load

Re: cvs commit: src/release/i386 drivers.conf

2002-07-27 Thread Terry Lambert
Peter Wemm wrote: So, given that the install from a CDROM boots from a floppy image that's faked up by the CDROM drive BIOS, and the image doesn't include the full boot loader, how exactly is it that the partial boot loader code acts like the full bootloader code for accessing the CDROM

Re: cvs commit: src/release/i386 drivers.conf

2002-07-27 Thread John Baldwin
On 27-Jul-2002 Terry Lambert wrote: Peter Wemm wrote: So, given that the install from a CDROM boots from a floppy image that's faked up by the CDROM drive BIOS, and the image doesn't include the full boot loader, how exactly is it that the partial boot loader code acts like the full

Re: cvs commit: src/release/i386 drivers.conf

2002-07-24 Thread Ruslan Ermilov
On Fri, Jul 05, 2002 at 12:54:26AM +0900, Makoto Matsushita wrote: ru Moved vx(4) and all miibus consumers (including miibus) out ru from kern.flp to mfsroot.flp. This leaves 9K of the free ru space for kern.flp. Yey! 5-current distribution will come back again, thank you! This

Re: cvs commit: src/release/i386 drivers.conf

2002-07-24 Thread John Hay
On Fri, Jul 05, 2002 at 12:54:26AM +0900, Makoto Matsushita wrote: ru Moved vx(4) and all miibus consumers (including miibus) out ru from kern.flp to mfsroot.flp. This leaves 9K of the free ru space for kern.flp. Yey! 5-current distribution will come back again, thank you!

Re: cvs commit: src/release/i386 drivers.conf

2002-07-24 Thread Ruslan Ermilov
On Wed, Jul 24, 2002 at 08:07:11PM +0200, John Hay wrote: On Fri, Jul 05, 2002 at 12:54:26AM +0900, Makoto Matsushita wrote: ru Moved vx(4) and all miibus consumers (including miibus) out ru from kern.flp to mfsroot.flp. This leaves 9K of the free ru space for kern.flp.

Re: cvs commit: src/release/i386 drivers.conf

2002-07-24 Thread John Hay
On Wed, Jul 24, 2002 at 08:07:11PM +0200, John Hay wrote: On Fri, Jul 05, 2002 at 12:54:26AM +0900, Makoto Matsushita wrote: ru Moved vx(4) and all miibus consumers (including miibus) out ru from kern.flp to mfsroot.flp. This leaves 9K of the free ru space for

Re: cvs commit: src/release/i386 drivers.conf

2002-07-24 Thread Makoto Matsushita
ru This was broken again. I don't have any ideas of what to move ru out. There are some ideas to do around boot floppies in my mind: 1) More drivers to move kernel modules, including other network drivers, pccard and friends, filesystems, etc. Apparantly it reduces kernel size so

Re: cvs commit: src/release/i386 drivers.conf

2002-07-24 Thread Makoto Matsushita
jhay nfsclient.ko and msdosfs.ko exists nowadays, so in theory it can jhay reside somewhere else. It seems that it's time to make the 3rd floppy for kernel modules... -- - Makoto `MAR' Matsushita To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of

Re: cvs commit: src/release/i386 drivers.conf

2002-07-24 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Wed, 24 Jul 2002 20:28:02 +0200 (SAT), John Hay [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: We can save some space (I think) by not gziping the individual help files, but leave them unzipped. Then the final gzip of the whole image should be able to do a better job of it. But I doubt if it will give us enough

Re: cvs commit: src/release/i386 drivers.conf

2002-07-24 Thread John Baldwin
On 24-Jul-2002 Makoto Matsushita wrote: jhay nfsclient.ko and msdosfs.ko exists nowadays, so in theory it can jhay reside somewhere else. It seems that it's time to make the 3rd floppy for kernel modules... We could start using cdboot for CD installs, and then just tailor the floppy

Re: cvs commit: src/release/i386 drivers.conf

2002-07-24 Thread Brooks Davis
On Wed, Jul 24, 2002 at 03:03:44PM -0400, John Baldwin wrote: On 24-Jul-2002 Makoto Matsushita wrote: jhay nfsclient.ko and msdosfs.ko exists nowadays, so in theory it can jhay reside somewhere else. It seems that it's time to make the 3rd floppy for kernel modules... We could

Re: cvs commit: src/release/i386 drivers.conf

2002-07-24 Thread Makoto Matsushita
brooks It does work though. It should work, but I wonder if 5-current kernel can mount CD-ROM as the root filesystem. I've tried before (March/2002 or something), but it doesn't work, kernel refused to mount CD-ROM (see email archive for more detail). Sorry if it was already fixed. -- -

Re: cvs commit: src/release/i386 drivers.conf

2002-07-24 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Makoto Matsushita [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : : ru This was broken again. I don't have any ideas of what to move : ru out. : : There are some ideas to do around boot floppies in my mind: : : 1) More drivers to move kernel modules, including other

Re: cvs commit: src/release/i386 drivers.conf

2002-07-24 Thread Terry Lambert
M. Warner Losh wrote: I've noticed that some of the older cam drivers are about all that is in the way of making CAM truly loadable. By that I mean having a kernel with all supported devices that aren't loadable forces CAM to be in the kernel because some of the SCSI devices aren't (yet)

Re: cvs commit: src/release/i386 drivers.conf

2002-07-24 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Jul 24), Terry Lambert said: M. Warner Losh wrote: I've noticed that some of the older cam drivers are about all that is in the way of making CAM truly loadable. By that I mean having a kernel with all supported devices that aren't loadable forces CAM to be in the

Re: cvs commit: src/release/i386 drivers.conf

2002-07-24 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On Thu, 2002-07-25 at 11:45, Terry Lambert wrote: Anything in the boot path needs to be static, by definition, or you face the Catch-22 of needing to load the driver in order to be able to load the driver. Uhh, not really. If your BIOS supports it (which it must for you to boot off it) then

Re: cvs commit: src/release/i386 drivers.conf

2002-07-24 Thread Terry Lambert
Daniel O'Connor wrote: On Thu, 2002-07-25 at 11:45, Terry Lambert wrote: Anything in the boot path needs to be static, by definition, or you face the Catch-22 of needing to load the driver in order to be able to load the driver. Uhh, not really. If your BIOS supports it (which it must

Re: cvs commit: src/release/i386 drivers.conf

2002-07-24 Thread Terry Lambert
M. Warner Losh wrote: : Think CDROM install. Dude, what crack are you smoking? How many times to we have to tell you. We have a boot loader that knows how to read the kernel from the cdrom or scsi or whatever. IT is a tiny increment to also load additional modules at that time that

Re: cvs commit: src/release/i386 drivers.conf

2002-07-24 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On Thu, 2002-07-25 at 14:01, Terry Lambert wrote: So, given that the install from a CDROM boots from a floppy image that's faked up by the CDROM drive BIOS, and the image doesn't include the full boot loader, how exactly is it that the partial boot loader code acts like the full bootloader