Re: 5.0-RC1: X server crash

2002-12-16 Thread Marc Fonvieille
On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 03:54:27AM +0100, Harald Hanche-Olsen wrote: (This is the last of my current batch of 5.0-RC1 problems.) Yeah, I know, X server problems ought to be reported to the XFree maintainers. Is there any interest for details of it here? The synopsis: The X server crashes

busdma documentation

2002-12-16 Thread Harti Brandt
Hi all, is there any documentation on the FreeBSD-busdma stuff? FreeBSD seems differ substantially from NetBSD in this regard. As far as I understand FreeBSD uses an older version. harti -- harti brandt, http://www.fokus.gmd.de/research/cc/cats/employees/hartmut.brandt/private

Re: fatal: ssh_msg_send: write

2002-12-16 Thread Alexey Zelkin
hi, I not sure in recent commits, but I have same error after finishing each command which connects to my -CURRENT's sshd (mostly scp). My -CURRENT is about month old :-( On Sun, Dec 15, 2002 at 11:26:41PM -0600, Christopher Schulte wrote: At 08:31 PM 12/15/2002 -0800, David Yeske wrote:

Re: Re[2]: 80386 out of GENERIC

2002-12-16 Thread Brad Knowles
At 4:45 PM -0800 2002/12/15, Avleen Vig wrote: How difficult would the following be to develop, in your opinion? A boot disk image (like the sets of images on the website tm) that will boot on 386's as well as more modern CPU's that can newfs and disklabel your drives, download the source,

Re: Posix Semaphores in -CURRENT

2002-12-16 Thread Joe Kelsey
Terry Lambert wrote: Joe Kelsey wrote: /* name must start with a '/' but not contain one. */ if (*name != '/' || len 2 || index(name + 1, '/') != NULL) { free(ret, M_SEM); return (EINVAL); } The comment

Re: fatal: ssh_msg_send: write

2002-12-16 Thread Sergey A. Osokin
On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 02:35:48PM +0200, Alexey Zelkin wrote: I not sure in recent commits, but I have same error after finishing each command which connects to my -CURRENT's sshd (mostly scp). My -CURRENT is about month old :-( On Sun, Dec 15, 2002 at 11:26:41PM -0600, Christopher Schulte

Re: busdma documentation

2002-12-16 Thread Hiten Pandya
On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 01:12:33PM +0100, Harti Brandt wrote the words in effect of: Hi all, is there any documentation on the FreeBSD-busdma stuff? FreeBSD seems differ substantially from NetBSD in this regard. As far as I understand FreeBSD uses an older version. Hello Harti, I

RE: Re[2]: 80386 out of GENERIC

2002-12-16 Thread John Baldwin
On 14-Dec-2002 Alex wrote: Dear/Beste phk, Saturday, December 14, 2002, 10:14:20 PM, you wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Alex writes: Dear/Beste Johnson, I read this on the advocacy list. Tuesday, November 19, 2002, 7:56:44 PM, you wrote: Support for the 80386 processor has

Re: 80386 out of GENERIC

2002-12-16 Thread John Baldwin
On 15-Dec-2002 Terry Lambert wrote: Alex wrote: It means that you can not install FreeBSD on a 386 unless you have a 486+ machine that can compile a new FreeBSD system and have a way to get that version to the 386. Yes, this is true. Several of us were annoyed by the change, which

Re: 80386 out of GENERIC

2002-12-16 Thread John Baldwin
On 15-Dec-2002 Nate Lawson wrote: On Sun, 15 Dec 2002, Erik Trulsson wrote: The only remotely good reason I have heard for removing support for 386 in the default configuration is that having it in would pessimize performance too much for more modern CPUs. How valid that reason is I cannot

Re: 5.0-RC1: No /dev/card0

2002-12-16 Thread Brooks Davis
On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 03:41:55AM +0100, Harald Hanche-Olsen wrote: Despite the following lines in dmesg... cbb0: TI1420 PCI-CardBus Bridge at device 1.0 on pci2 cardbus0: CardBus bus on cbb0 pccard0: 16-bit PCCard bus on cbb0 cbb1: TI1420 PCI-CardBus Bridge at device 1.1 on pci2

Re: ipfw userland breaks again.

2002-12-16 Thread Ruslan Ermilov
On Sun, Dec 15, 2002 at 08:47:23PM +, Nik Clayton wrote: On Sun, Dec 15, 2002 at 11:08:01AM -0800, Matthew Dillon wrote: : ::This is complete BULLSHIT, Warner. : :Your attitude it totally unacceptible. Learn to play well with :others, or get the fuck out of the project.

Re: ipfw userland breaks again.

2002-12-16 Thread Ruslan Ermilov
On Sat, Dec 14, 2002 at 02:09:13PM -0800, Matthew Dillon wrote: : :On Sat, Dec 14, 2002 at 12:38:13PM -0800, Matthew Dillon wrote: : then, as usual, IPFW with the new kernel and : old world fails utterly and now the fragging machine can't access the : :Hear hear!! I am tempted to

Re: su(1) problem on -current

2002-12-16 Thread Gavin Atkinson
On Sun, 15 Dec 2002, David Malone wrote: On Sun, Dec 15, 2002 at 08:00:55PM +, Gavin Atkinson wrote: Confirmed. in su.c it seems that pam_authenticate is returning PAM_AUTH_ERR, when it presumably should not be doing so. Try getting rid of the auth_as_self in /etc/pam.d/su for the

Re: 80386 out of GENERIC

2002-12-16 Thread Johnson David
On Saturday 14 December 2002 08:53 pm, Terry Lambert wrote: The best answer out there is the majority has spoken, with the idea being that if you are deploying on 386 hardware, you are an embedded systems vendor, and are willing to live with the process effectively being a cross-compilation.

Re: 80386 out of GENERIC

2002-12-16 Thread Craig Reyenga
Yes, and then make 5.0-useless-Tandy1000.iso for the other 8 guys that could use it. -Craig - Original Message - From: Johnson David [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Terry Lambert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 12:55 Subject: Re: 80386 out of GENERIC On

Re: 5.0-RC1: X server crash

2002-12-16 Thread Paolo Pisati
On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 10:08:55AM +0100, Marc Fonvieille wrote: I use the same machine under 5.0-CURRENT (RC etc.). I used to have hangs under X, but since I removed Load dri from /etc/X11/XF86Config, it is OK. Please, try to run the memtest program (it's in the ports tree): i had a

Re: 80386 out of GENERIC

2002-12-16 Thread Chris Doherty
On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 09:55:14AM -0800, Johnson David said: Okay, here's a compromise solution for all those people still needing 386 support out of the box: make a 5.0-mini-386.iso image. p.s. I somehow suspect that embedded systems vendors aren't installing from the CDROM. why is

Re: ipfw userland breaks again.

2002-12-16 Thread Julian Elischer
On Mon, 16 Dec 2002, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: On Sat, Dec 14, 2002 at 02:09:13PM -0800, Matthew Dillon wrote: : :On Sat, Dec 14, 2002 at 12:38:13PM -0800, Matthew Dillon wrote: : then, as usual, IPFW with the new kernel and : old world fails utterly and now the fragging machine

Re: ARLA 0.35.11 on FreeBSD 5.0-RC1

2002-12-16 Thread Garance A Drosihn
At 4:15 PM +0100 12/15/02, Petr Holub wrote: Hi, I tried to compile arla 0.35.11 on FreeBSD 5.0-RC1. First I got following error: checking for memcpy in kernel... yes checking if vnode_if.h needs to be built... configure: error: unable to find any vnode_if script So I have linked -su-2.05b#

Re: 80386 out of GENERIC

2002-12-16 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Greg 'groggy' Lehey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : I suppose it would be a good idea to include an alternatvie i386 : kernel on the CD-ROM. There may be a space issue, of course. How : many people participating in this thread have an i386 with at least 12 :

Re: ipfw userland breaks again.

2002-12-16 Thread Matthew Dillon
:How this could be helpful in a remote upgrade scenario that has :IPFW ABI incompatibility issues? : :One alternative approach would be to not compile IPFW into a :kernel but rather have it loaded as a module. Then, you :install new kernel, edit out ipfw_enable=3DYES for the time :being, reboot

bpf lock order reversal

2002-12-16 Thread Gavin Atkinson
Just had this lock order reversal on a late-november kernel. Haven't seen it mentioned before. Dec 16 19:07:15 epsilon kernel: rl0: promiscuous mode enabled Dec 16 19:07:15 epsilon kernel: lock order reversal Dec 16 19:07:15 epsilon kernel: 1st 0xc0429cc0 bpf global lock (bpf global lock) @

Re: SMP kernel on 5.0-release ISO's?

2002-12-16 Thread Miguel Mendez
On Mon, 16 Dec 2002 14:44:57 -0500 Garance A Drosihn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, ISO's? Do people think that would be a useful item to include? Yes and no, let me explain. The first thing I do just after I install FreBSD on a box (given it has enough cpu power) is rebuild world and kernel

Re: 5.0-RC1: X server crash

2002-12-16 Thread Marc Fonvieille
On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 07:07:01PM +0100, Paolo Pisati wrote: Please, try to run the memtest program (it's in the ports tree): i had a SERIOUS problem of memory corruption with my laptop (PIII, Intel815E, ATI Radeon M6, etcetc) with STABLE when i loaded the agp module. I reported this

panic: ffs_blkfree: freeing free block

2002-12-16 Thread Aurelien Nephtali
Hi, I got a panic today which occured during a background fsck, after a hard-reboot of the system. The dump from gdb is attached and I can, of course, provide more infos if needed. -- Aurelien Script started on Mon Dec 16 22:08:36 2002 nebula#

Re: 5.0-RC1 install: disklabel editor

2002-12-16 Thread Kevin Oberman
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 03:25:39 +0100 From: Harald Hanche-Olsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For some reason, I can't find a way to create a swap partition using the disklabel editor - other than by using Auto Defaults - and then I can't see any way to adjust the size of the

Re: 'I want to apologize'

2002-12-16 Thread Matthew Dillon
Ha ha. -Matt Matthew Dillon [EMAIL PROTECTED] :From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Dec 16 14:00:03 2002 :... :Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) :

Re: 5.0-RC1: X server crash

2002-12-16 Thread Paolo Pisati
On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 09:55:09PM +0100, Marc Fonvieille wrote: We talked about a problem between X and -CURRENT, we had no problem with -STABLE. A problem that MAYBE is still present even in CURRENT, don't you think? As i said, i don't have my laptop right now, so i couldn't test CURRENT

Re: 5.0-RC1: X server crash

2002-12-16 Thread Marc Fonvieille
On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 11:25:05PM +0100, Paolo Pisati wrote: On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 09:55:09PM +0100, Marc Fonvieille wrote: We talked about a problem between X and -CURRENT, we had no problem with -STABLE. A problem that MAYBE is still present even in CURRENT, don't you think?

Re: 80386 out of GENERIC

2002-12-16 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Monday, 16 December 2002 at 12:02:10 -0700, M. Warner Losh wrote: In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Greg 'groggy' Lehey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I suppose it would be a good idea to include an alternatvie i386 kernel on the CD-ROM. There may be a space issue, of course. How many

Re: 5.0-RC1: compat4x

2002-12-16 Thread David O'Brien
On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 03:37:58AM +0100, Harald Hanche-Olsen wrote: Shouldn't libposix1e.so.2 have been part of the compat4x package? I came across at least one program that uses it. Send me a list of what needs to be added, and I can look into it. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL

Re: 5.0-RC1 install: disklabel editor

2002-12-16 Thread Harald Hanche-Olsen
+ Kevin Oberman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: | In any case, in the disklabel screen down-arrow until you get to the | partition you want to use as swap. Note the size and press 'D' to | delete it. Then up-arrow to the entry at the top of the screen for the | slice the swap will be created in. Press 'C',

Re: 80386 out of GENERIC

2002-12-16 Thread phk
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Johnson David writes: On Saturday 14 December 2002 08:53 pm, Terry Lambert wrote: The best answer out there is the majority has spoken, with the idea being that if you are deploying on 386 hardware, you are an embedded systems vendor, and are willing to live with

Re: 5.0-RC1: No /dev/card0

2002-12-16 Thread Harald Hanche-Olsen
+ Brooks Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: | On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 03:41:55AM +0100, Harald Hanche-Olsen wrote: | ...no /dev/card0 (or /dev/card1) appears, and so pccardc and pccardd | fail. Shouldn't this be automatic, or did I miss something? | | NEWCARD doesn't use pccardd or pccardc. devd

Re: 5.0-RC1: X server crash

2002-12-16 Thread Harald Hanche-Olsen
+ Marc Fonvieille [EMAIL PROTECTED]: | I use the same machine under 5.0-CURRENT (RC etc.). I used to have | hangs under X, but since I removed | | Load dri | | from /etc/X11/XF86Config, it is OK. Didn't make an iota of difference for me. + Paolo Pisati [EMAIL PROTECTED]: | Please, try to

5.0 performance (was: 80386 out of GENERIC)

2002-12-16 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Monday, 16 December 2002 at 10:09:48 -0800, Chris Doherty wrote: 2) I'm scared that 5.0 is going to be unpleasantly slow on my p2-366, let alone a 386. I'm running it diskless on a K6/233. I'm surprised how snappy it is. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers To

unrar doesn't work under current

2002-12-16 Thread Riccardo Torrini
Trying to extract a single or multi volume archive doesn't work. Same archive can be extracted fine with unrar under 4.7-STABLE. My -CURRENT from 10 day ago. Tryed to remove and rebuild unrar without luck. rar on -CURRENT also works. Any idea? -8-[ from 4.7-STABLE ]-8- # date

Re: 5.0-RC1 install: disklabel editor

2002-12-16 Thread Kevin Oberman
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 00:39:32 +0100 From: Harald Hanche-Olsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] + Kevin Oberman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: | In any case, in the disklabel screen down-arrow until you get to the | partition you want to use as swap. Note the size and press 'D' to | delete it. Then up-arrow to

Re: 5.0 performance (was: 80386 out of GENERIC)

2002-12-16 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2002-12-17 10:57, Greg 'groggy' Lehey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday, 16 December 2002 at 10:09:48 -0800, Chris Doherty wrote: 2) I'm scared that 5.0 is going to be unpleasantly slow on my p2-366, let alone a 386. I'm running it diskless on a K6/233. I'm surprised how snappy it

writing to mbr under GEOM

2002-12-16 Thread Ray Kohler
What's the status of the issue where devices with open partitions can't have their boot sectors written to? I know phk@ was working on it a while back but it's something I'd like to see fixed soon, maybe before release? ~ 9:14PM % sudo fdisk -B ad0 fdisk: can't open device /dev/ad0 fdisk: cannot

Reboot failure and dmesg corruption

2002-12-16 Thread Andrew Boothman
Hi everyone! I recently installed 5.0-CURRENT-20021215-JPSNAP from current.freebsd.org and two small problems have come to light. Firstly my box (a P2-350 Compaq Deskpro) refuses to reboot. When I issue a 'shutdown -r now' the system gets as far as displaying the system uptime and then seems

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2002-12-16 Thread Georgi Hristov
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Re: 5.0 performance (was: 80386 out of GENERIC)

2002-12-16 Thread Gary Stanley
Read the top of /usr/src/UPDATING Explains most of the slow problems. At 03:45 AM 12/17/2002 +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: On 2002-12-17 10:57, Greg 'groggy' Lehey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday, 16 December 2002 at 10:09:48 -0800, Chris Doherty wrote: 2) I'm scared that 5.0 is

Re: ipfw userland breaks again.

2002-12-16 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Matthew Dillon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : Here's a new patch. But there isn't much of a point if we do not : also disallow ipfw DELETE and FLUSH. And the pipe config commands : as well as anything else that changes the firewall state.

Re: panic: ffs_blkfree: freeing free block

2002-12-16 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Dec 16), Aurelien Nephtali said: Hi, I got a panic today which occured during a background fsck, after a hard-reboot of the system. The dump from gdb is attached and I can, of course, provide more infos if needed. Me too. My info attached as well; almost identical

Re: 80386 out of GENERIC

2002-12-16 Thread Adam Migus
I have a 486 running as a firewall. I honestly didn't even think about trying 5.0 on that thing, forget a 386. So you don't get upset when Windows XP requires a Pentium two million with a bejigabyte of RAM but you complain when 5.0 Won't run on a 386? Adam In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: 5.0-RC1: X server crash

2002-12-16 Thread Cliff Sarginson
On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 09:55:09PM +0100, Marc Fonvieille wrote: On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 07:07:01PM +0100, Paolo Pisati wrote: Please, try to run the memtest program (it's in the ports tree): i had a SERIOUS problem of memory corruption with my laptop (PIII, Intel815E, ATI Radeon M6,

Sysinstall [ was Re: 5.0-RC1 install: disklabel editor ]

2002-12-16 Thread Cliff Sarginson
On Tue, Dec 17, 2002 at 12:39:32AM +0100, Harald Hanche-Olsen wrote: + Kevin Oberman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: | In any case, in the disklabel screen down-arrow until you get to the | partition you want to use as swap. Note the size and press 'D' to | delete it. Then up-arrow to the entry at the

SCSI Bios complaints and Disk Slices

2002-12-16 Thread Cliff Sarginson
Hi, I installed a second SCSI disk on a system. For testing I installed Windows .. fine, I installed Linux .. fine. Then I installed FreeBSD...fine *but* the SCSI BIOS on bootup complains that the disk geometry is all cockeyed, and it looks that way from what it says. It warns any non-DOS O/S may

Re: 5.0 performance (was: 80386 out of GENERIC)

2002-12-16 Thread Cliff Sarginson
On Tue, Dec 17, 2002 at 03:45:22AM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: On 2002-12-17 10:57, Greg 'groggy' Lehey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday, 16 December 2002 at 10:09:48 -0800, Chris Doherty wrote: 2) I'm scared that 5.0 is going to be unpleasantly slow on my p2-366, let alone a

Re: swapoff code comitted.

2002-12-16 Thread David Schultz
Thus spake Christian Brueffer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: How about renaming swapon(8) into swapctl(8) after this function enhancement? This name reflects it's purpose much better and would be consistent with the other BSDs. It would be trivial to change the name, although I don't see what it buys you.

Re: Lock order reversals in sys_pipe.c and kern_sig.c

2002-12-16 Thread Brent Verner
[2002-12-04 15:12] Alfred Perlstein said: | * Lars Eggert [EMAIL PROTECTED] [021204 15:04] wrote: | | FYI, just got a similar one yesterday on an up-to-date -current: | | lock order reversal | 1st 0xc784d700 pipe mutex (pipe mutex) @ /usr/src/sys/kern/sys_pipe.c:465 | 2nd 0xc0513840

ia64 tinderbox failure

2002-12-16 Thread Peter Wemm
-- Rebuilding the temporary build tree -- stage 1: bootstrap tools -- stage 2: cleaning up the object tree

Re: 80386 out of GENERIC

2002-12-16 Thread Andy Sparrow
12MB? The last time I tried on a 16MB machine, it core dumped because it ran out of memory. I had to put 24MB in the machine before it would work (I couldn't try 20MB due to onhand SIMMs). Uhh, I think we should move forward, like everyone else says. I mean, I don't throw computers away,

i386 tinderbox failure

2002-12-16 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
-- Rebuilding the temporary build tree -- stage 1: bootstrap tools -- stage 2: cleaning up the object tree

Re: 5.0 performance (was: 80386 out of GENERIC)

2002-12-16 Thread Garance A Drosihn
At 5:58 AM +0100 12/17/02, Cliff Sarginson wrote: Also didn't someone mention that GCC has got slower anyway ? gcc is slower at compiling things. This is very noticeable when you're doing a buildworld. The code which gcc 3.2.1 produces does not seem any slower than the code produced by gcc

Re: 5.0 performance (was: 80386 out of GENERIC)

2002-12-16 Thread Cliff L. Biffle
On Tuesday 17 December 2002 12:19 am, Garance A Drosihn wrote: At 5:58 AM +0100 12/17/02, Cliff Sarginson wrote: Also didn't someone mention that GCC has got slower anyway ? gcc is slower at compiling things. This is very noticeable when you're doing a buildworld. The code which gcc 3.2.1

Re: unrar doesn't work under current

2002-12-16 Thread Tim Robbins
On Tue, Dec 17, 2002 at 01:44:44AM +0100, Riccardo Torrini wrote: Trying to extract a single or multi volume archive doesn't work. Same archive can be extracted fine with unrar under 4.7-STABLE. My -CURRENT from 10 day ago. Tryed to remove and rebuild unrar without luck. rar on -CURRENT

Re: 80386 out of GENERIC

2002-12-16 Thread Ruslan Ermilov
On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 09:05:40AM +1030, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: On Saturday, 14 December 2002 at 20:53:05 -0800, Terry Lambert wrote: Alex wrote: It means that you can not install FreeBSD on a 386 unless you have a 486+ machine that can compile a new FreeBSD system and have a way to

Re: unrar doesn't work under current

2002-12-16 Thread Edwin Groothuis
On Tue, Dec 17, 2002 at 06:33:04PM +1100, Tim Robbins wrote: On Tue, Dec 17, 2002 at 01:44:44AM +0100, Riccardo Torrini wrote: Trying to extract a single or multi volume archive doesn't work. Same archive can be extracted fine with unrar under 4.7-STABLE. My -CURRENT from 10 day ago.