Re: FreeBSD 10.0-RC2 Now Available

2013-12-17 Thread Odhiambo Washington
Someone please help me here: root@fbsd10:/usr/src/contrib/unbound # uname -a FreeBSD fbsd10 10.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT #0 r254222: Sun Aug 11 20:14:02 UTC 2013 r...@snap.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 root@fbsd10:/usr/src/contrib/unbound # freebsd-update upgrade -r

Re: FreeBSD 10.0-RC2 Now Available

2013-12-17 Thread Odhiambo Washington
Fair enough. I will use svn instead. I've never liked freebsd-update. On 17 December 2013 11:58, Niilo Kajander niilo.kajan...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 10:49 AM, Odhiambo Washington odhia...@gmail.com wrote: Why does this fail? I have never used freebsd-update before.

11.0-CURRENT panic at (allegedly) a dpms signal (monitor off), in drm2

2013-12-17 Thread Markiyan Kushnir
14:00:~$ uname -a FreeBSD mkushnir.mooo.com 11.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 11.0-CURRENT #1 r259227: Thu Dec 12 10:17:56 EET 2013 r...@mkushnir.mooo.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MAREK amd64 Left my desktop (new Xorg, newcons, radeonkms) for a couple of minutes and found it rebooted after a panic. Never seen

Re: FreeBSD 10.0-RC2 Now Available

2013-12-17 Thread Glen Barber
On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 11:49:39AM +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote: Someone please help me here: root@fbsd10:/usr/src/contrib/unbound # uname -a FreeBSD fbsd10 10.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT #0 r254222: Sun Aug 11 20:14:02 UTC 2013 r...@snap.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC

Re: FreeBSD 10.0-RC2 Now Available

2013-12-17 Thread Niilo Kajander
On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 10:49 AM, Odhiambo Washington odhia...@gmail.com wrote: Why does this fail? I have never used freebsd-update before. It's my 1st time. My understanding is that freebsd-update can't track changes between different svn revisions. It doesn't have a clue about -CURRENT or

Re: FreeBSD 10.0-RC2 Now Available

2013-12-17 Thread Odhiambo Washington
Aha! I already blew away the 10-CURRENT, downloaded the RC and installed (on VMware). Now I can play with the stuff, including unbound, freebsd-update. BTW, I always used csup, then moved to svn on my systems. This freebsd-update (sorry I always felt scared about it), how does it handle a

Re: FreeBSD 10.0-RC2 Now Available

2013-12-17 Thread Glen Barber
On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 03:53:22PM +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote: Aha! I already blew away the 10-CURRENT, downloaded the RC and installed (on VMware). Now I can play with the stuff, including unbound, freebsd-update. BTW, I always used csup, then moved to svn on my systems. This

Re: 11.0-CURRENT panic at (allegedly) a dpms signal (monitor off), in drm2

2013-12-17 Thread Markiyan Kushnir
/var/log/messages (cut out everything before approx an hour before the panic) and Xorg log of the panicked session: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9Q-zpUXxqCnX3IzY3BHMGRSVkk/edit?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9Q-zpUXxqCna3pfTVl2dWZraTg/edit?usp=sharing -- Markiyan.

Re: FreeBSD 10.0-RC2 Now Available

2013-12-17 Thread Odhiambo Washington
..and I believe that is the one thing that drove me away from freebsd-update. On 17 December 2013 16:03, Glen Barber g...@freebsd.org wrote: On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 03:53:22PM +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote: Aha! I already blew away the 10-CURRENT, downloaded the RC and installed (on

10-RC2 current wireless link aggregation not working correctly

2013-12-17 Thread dan_partelly
Hi all, I've set up wireless link aggregation on FreeBSD 10 RC1 and RC2 as described in the FreeBSD handbook, on an oldish Compaq nc6320 laptop. What happens is: If I boot the system with the Ethernet cable attached, I correctly get lagg0 active port on master- bg0- and the network is working

[head tinderbox] failure on i386/i386

2013-12-17 Thread FreeBSD Tinderbox
TB --- 2013-12-17 07:40:17 - tinderbox 2.20 running on freebsd-current.sentex.ca TB --- 2013-12-17 07:40:17 - FreeBSD freebsd-current.sentex.ca 8.3-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 8.3-PRERELEASE #0: Mon Mar 26 13:54:12 EDT 2012 d...@freebsd-current.sentex.ca:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 TB ---

Re: 10-RC2 current wireless link aggregation not working correctly

2013-12-17 Thread Nikolai Lifanov
On 12/17/13 08:06, dan_partelly wrote: Hi all, I've set up wireless link aggregation on FreeBSD 10 RC1 and RC2 as described in the FreeBSD handbook, on an oldish Compaq nc6320 laptop. What happens is: If I boot the system with the Ethernet cable attached, I correctly get lagg0

[head tinderbox] failure on amd64/amd64

2013-12-17 Thread FreeBSD Tinderbox
TB --- 2013-12-17 07:40:17 - tinderbox 2.20 running on freebsd-current.sentex.ca TB --- 2013-12-17 07:40:17 - FreeBSD freebsd-current.sentex.ca 8.3-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 8.3-PRERELEASE #0: Mon Mar 26 13:54:12 EDT 2012 d...@freebsd-current.sentex.ca:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 TB ---

Re: 10-RC2 current wireless link aggregation not working correctly

2013-12-17 Thread Adrian Chadd
Hi, The MAC of the lagg needs to be the same as the wireless interface. I'm going to just state right now that using lagg as the failover method for doing wireless/wired integration isn't supported by me. If someone wants to make it supported then they need to claim it. :) -a On 17 December

Re: 10-RC2 current wireless link aggregation not working correctly

2013-12-17 Thread Nikolai Lifanov
On 12/17/13 10:54, Adrian Chadd wrote: Hi, The MAC of the lagg needs to be the same as the wireless interface. I'm going to just state right now that using lagg as the failover method for doing wireless/wired integration isn't supported by me. If someone wants to make it supported then

Re: 10-RC2 current wireless link aggregation not working correctly

2013-12-17 Thread dan_partelly
On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 07:54:52 -0800, Adrian Chadd adr...@freebsd.org wrote: Hi, All 3 MACs are the same. wpi0 is set to the MAC of bg0. Wlan0 inherits the MAC of wpi0. Lagg0 is set up to the MAC of master. So everything checks out. All are the same. I have to check if the systems sends packets

Re: 10-RC2 current wireless link aggregation not working correctly

2013-12-17 Thread Nikolai Lifanov
On 12/17/13 10:54, Adrian Chadd wrote: Hi, The MAC of the lagg needs to be the same as the wireless interface. I'm going to just state right now that using lagg as the failover method for doing wireless/wired integration isn't supported by me. If someone wants to make it supported then

Re: 10-RC2 current wireless link aggregation not working correctly

2013-12-17 Thread Adrian Chadd
I'm the wireless stack maintainer and I currently don't support that. Sorry. -a On 17 December 2013 08:10, dan_partelly dan_parte...@rdsor.ro wrote: On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 07:54:52 -0800, Adrian Chadd adr...@freebsd.org wrote: Hi, All 3 MACs are the same. wpi0 is set to the MAC of bg0.

Re: 10-RC2 current wireless link aggregation not working correctly

2013-12-17 Thread Adrian Chadd
On 17 December 2013 08:12, Nikolai Lifanov lifa...@mail.lifanov.com wrote: Also, this method is still described in the handbook: https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/network-aggregation.html#networking-lagg-wired-and-wireless If this isn't supposed to work, then the handbook needs to be

Re: 10-RC2 current wireless link aggregation not working correctly

2013-12-17 Thread dan_partelly
No problem. Can you point me to the relevant source files in the kernel tree, please ? Dan On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 08:43:09 -0800, Adrian Chadd adr...@freebsd.org wrote: I'm the wireless stack maintainer and I currently don't support that. Sorry. -a On 17 December 2013 08:10,

Re: 10-RC2 current wireless link aggregation not working correctly

2013-12-17 Thread Allan Jude
On 2013-12-17 10:54, Adrian Chadd wrote: Hi, The MAC of the lagg needs to be the same as the wireless interface. I'm going to just state right now that using lagg as the failover method for doing wireless/wired integration isn't supported by me. If someone wants to make it supported then

Re: 10-RC2 current wireless link aggregation not working correctly

2013-12-17 Thread Nikolai Lifanov
On 12/17/13 12:34, Allan Jude wrote: On 2013-12-17 10:54, Adrian Chadd wrote: Hi, The MAC of the lagg needs to be the same as the wireless interface. I'm going to just state right now that using lagg as the failover method for doing wireless/wired integration isn't supported by me. If

Re: 10-RC2 current wireless link aggregation not working correctly

2013-12-17 Thread dan_partelly
Yes, this is correct. A simple list of the interfaces with ifconfig makes the system recover and restart activity on the secondary port. Its a good starting point to hunt down the problem. One of the ioctls sent has this side effect. Dan If I am am understanding correctly, Dan and Nikolai

Re: [HEADS UP] xorg version switch in CURRENT

2013-12-17 Thread Steve Kargl
On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 12:20:53PM +0100, Niclas Zeising wrote: To get VT switching when using KMS drivers (ATI, Intel) please use newcons: https://wiki.freebsd.org/Newcons or if that is not possible, force the use of the vesa driver for xorg. It appears that newcons is unusable with a

Re: 10-RC2 current wireless link aggregation not working correctly

2013-12-17 Thread Adrian Chadd
Ive no idea sorry. Its likely an ifnet change and not anything WiFi specific. :( On Dec 17, 2013 12:04 PM, dan_partelly dan_parte...@rdsor.ro wrote: Yes, this is correct. A simple list of the interfaces with ifconfig makes the system recover and restart activity on the secondary port. Its a

Re: [HEADS UP] xorg version switch in CURRENT

2013-12-17 Thread Adrian Chadd
I'm rapidly wondering if building this way should become unsupported. Too muxh unknown stuff is needed at startup and wed have to load all firmware bits to make it remotely work. On Dec 17, 2013 2:08 PM, Steve Kargl s...@troutmask.apl.washington.edu wrote: On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 12:20:53PM

Re: Request for testing an alternate branch

2013-12-17 Thread John Baldwin
On Saturday, December 14, 2013 8:22:41 pm Justin Hibbits wrote: On Thu, 12 Dec 2013 14:15:47 -0500 John Baldwin j...@freebsd.org wrote: On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 5:40:30 pm Justin Hibbits wrote: On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 1:26 PM, John Baldwin j...@freebsd.org wrote: On

Re: [HEADS UP] xorg version switch in CURRENT

2013-12-17 Thread Nathan Whitehorn
On 12/17/13 14:07, Steve Kargl wrote: On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 12:20:53PM +0100, Niclas Zeising wrote: To get VT switching when using KMS drivers (ATI, Intel) please use newcons: https://wiki.freebsd.org/Newcons or if that is not possible, force the use of the vesa driver for xorg. It appears

10-RC unable to build kernel without INET (i.e. IPv6-only)

2013-12-17 Thread Mark Martinec
Under 9.2 the following could be used to build an IPv6-only kernel: /sys/amd64/conf/TEST : include GENERIC makeoptions MKMODULESENV+=WITHOUT_INET_SUPPORT= nooptions INET Now with stable/10 the: make buildkernel KERNCONF=TEST fails while building xen support: [...] cc -c -O2 -pipe

Re: [HEADS UP] xorg version switch in CURRENT

2013-12-17 Thread Steve Kargl
On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 12:15:33PM -0800, Adrian Chadd wrote: On Dec 17, 2013 2:08 PM, Steve Kargl s...@troutmask.apl.washington.edu wrote: On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 12:20:53PM +0100, Niclas Zeising wrote: To get VT switching when using KMS drivers (ATI, Intel) please use newcons:

Re: new Xorg (KMS, etc.) for Radeon 9600

2013-12-17 Thread Jean-Sébastien Pédron
On 16.12.2013 08:36, d...@gmx.com wrote: Still nobody wants to apply Robert Noland's DRM patch? What problem(s) does this patch fix? -- Jean-Sébastien Pédron signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [HEADS UP] xorg version switch in CURRENT

2013-12-17 Thread Aleksandr Rybalko
On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 14:12:05 -0600 Nathan Whitehorn nwhiteh...@freebsd.org wrote: On 12/17/13 14:07, Steve Kargl wrote: On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 12:20:53PM +0100, Niclas Zeising wrote: To get VT switching when using KMS drivers (ATI, Intel) please use newcons:

Re: [rfc] [patch] do not stop watchdog on shutdown

2013-12-17 Thread Allan Jude
On 2013-12-17 16:28, Aleksandr Rybalko wrote: On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 10:53:02 -0800 Maksim Yevmenkin maksim.yevmen...@gmail.com wrote: hello, Hi Maksim! would anyone object to this patch? It is good idea, but sometimes shutdown sequence longer than some H/W watchdogs even support. I have

Re: 11.0-CURRENT panic at (allegedly) a dpms signal (monitor off), in drm2

2013-12-17 Thread Jean-Sébastien Pédron
On 17.12.2013 13:19, Markiyan Kushnir wrote: Left my desktop (new Xorg, newcons, radeonkms) for a couple of minutes and found it rebooted after a panic. Never seen this kind of panic before. That's weird: the code leading to this panic in unreachable, because there's no way currently (that I

[rfc] [patch] do not stop watchdog on shutdown

2013-12-17 Thread Maksim Yevmenkin
hello, would anyone object to this patch? max Index: src/etc/rc.d/watchdogd === --- src/etc/rc.d/watchdogd (revision 2999) +++ src/etc/rc.d/watchdogd (working copy) @@ -39,4 +39,7 @@ pidfile=/var/run/${name}.pid

Re: [rfc] [patch] do not stop watchdog on shutdown

2013-12-17 Thread Aleksandr Rybalko
On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 10:53:02 -0800 Maksim Yevmenkin maksim.yevmen...@gmail.com wrote: hello, Hi Maksim! would anyone object to this patch? It is good idea, but sometimes shutdown sequence longer than some H/W watchdogs even support. I have one board which can do only 20sec maximum time.

Re: [rfc] [patch] do not stop watchdog on shutdown

2013-12-17 Thread Andriy Gapon
on 17/12/2013 20:53 Maksim Yevmenkin said the following: hello, would anyone object to this patch? max Index: src/etc/rc.d/watchdogd === --- src/etc/rc.d/watchdogd (revision 2999) +++ src/etc/rc.d/watchdogd

Re: [rfc] [patch] do not stop watchdog on shutdown

2013-12-17 Thread Maksim Yevmenkin
Hello Aleksandr would anyone object to this patch? It is good idea, but sometimes shutdown sequence longer than some H/W watchdogs even support. I have one board which can do only 20sec maximum time. yes. its up to the user to configure appropriate watchdog timeout. this features is mostly

Re: [rfc] [patch] do not stop watchdog on shutdown

2013-12-17 Thread Maksim Yevmenkin
Hello Allan I've been seeing an issue where sometimes my system seems to hang after the shutdown. where not stopping the watchdog might help. I wonder if it would be best to make some kind of rc.conf variable to allow the user to opt for one or the other, keeping the current behaviour for

Re: [rfc] [patch] do not stop watchdog on shutdown

2013-12-17 Thread Maksim Yevmenkin
On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Andriy Gapon a...@freebsd.org wrote: on 17/12/2013 20:53 Maksim Yevmenkin said the following: hello, would anyone object to this patch? max Index: src/etc/rc.d/watchdogd === ---

Re: [HEADS UP] xorg version switch in CURRENT

2013-12-17 Thread Aleksandr Rybalko
On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 12:07:56 -0800 Steve Kargl s...@troutmask.apl.washington.edu wrote: On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 12:20:53PM +0100, Niclas Zeising wrote: To get VT switching when using KMS drivers (ATI, Intel) please use newcons: https://wiki.freebsd.org/Newcons or if that is not possible,

[HEADS UP] enabling LLDB debugger by default on amd64

2013-12-17 Thread Ed Maste
The in-tree snapshot of LLDB is at a point where it's usable and suitable for wider testing on amd64, and so I intend to enable it by default in the near future. Further information on the FreeBSD port of LLDB is on the wiki, at https://wiki.freebsd.org/lldb On my desktop LLDB added about 5

Re: [rfc] [patch] do not stop watchdog on shutdown

2013-12-17 Thread Aleksandr Rybalko
On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 14:03:43 -0800 Maksim Yevmenkin maksim.yevmen...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Aleksandr would anyone object to this patch? It is good idea, but sometimes shutdown sequence longer than some H/W watchdogs even support. I have one board which can do only 20sec maximum

Re: [HEADS UP] enabling LLDB debugger by default on amd64

2013-12-17 Thread Navdeep Parhar
Any plans to get kernel debugging working? On 12/17/13 14:15, Ed Maste wrote: The in-tree snapshot of LLDB is at a point where it's usable and suitable for wider testing on amd64, and so I intend to enable it by default in the near future. Further information on the FreeBSD port of LLDB is

Re: [HEADS UP] xorg version switch in CURRENT

2013-12-17 Thread Steve Kargl
On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 12:15:52AM +0200, Aleksandr Rybalko wrote: On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 12:07:56 -0800 Steve Kargl s...@troutmask.apl.washington.edu wrote: On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 12:20:53PM +0100, Niclas Zeising wrote: To get VT switching when using KMS drivers (ATI, Intel) please use

Re: [HEADS UP] xorg version switch in CURRENT

2013-12-17 Thread Nathan Whitehorn
On 12/17/13 15:32, Aleksandr Rybalko wrote: On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 14:12:05 -0600 Nathan Whitehorn nwhiteh...@freebsd.org wrote: On 12/17/13 14:07, Steve Kargl wrote: On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 12:20:53PM +0100, Niclas Zeising wrote: To get VT switching when using KMS drivers (ATI, Intel) please

Re: [HEADS UP] xorg version switch in CURRENT

2013-12-17 Thread Aleksandr Rybalko
On 18.12.2013 01:27, Nathan Whitehorn wrote: On 12/17/13 15:32, Aleksandr Rybalko wrote: On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 14:12:05 -0600 Nathan Whitehorn nwhiteh...@freebsd.org wrote: On 12/17/13 14:07, Steve Kargl wrote: On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 12:20:53PM +0100, Niclas Zeising wrote: To get VT

Re: 10-RC2 current wireless link aggregation not working correctly

2013-12-17 Thread Xin Li
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 12/17/13 09:34, Allan Jude wrote: If I am am understanding correctly, Dan and Nikolai say that just running 'ifconfig' brings the lagg back to life. Why would that make a difference at all? Running ifconfig with no parameters shouldn't be

[head tinderbox] failure on i386/i386

2013-12-17 Thread FreeBSD Tinderbox
TB --- 2013-12-17 19:30:17 - tinderbox 2.20 running on freebsd-current.sentex.ca TB --- 2013-12-17 19:30:17 - FreeBSD freebsd-current.sentex.ca 8.3-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 8.3-PRERELEASE #0: Mon Mar 26 13:54:12 EDT 2012 d...@freebsd-current.sentex.ca:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 TB ---

Re: [HEADS UP] enabling LLDB debugger by default on amd64

2013-12-17 Thread Ed Maste
On 17 December 2013 17:21, Navdeep Parhar n...@freebsd.org wrote: Any plans to get kernel debugging working? It's on the roadmap, but no concrete plans or timeline yet. ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list

[head tinderbox] failure on amd64/amd64

2013-12-17 Thread FreeBSD Tinderbox
TB --- 2013-12-17 19:30:17 - tinderbox 2.20 running on freebsd-current.sentex.ca TB --- 2013-12-17 19:30:17 - FreeBSD freebsd-current.sentex.ca 8.3-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 8.3-PRERELEASE #0: Mon Mar 26 13:54:12 EDT 2012 d...@freebsd-current.sentex.ca:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 TB ---

Re: 10-RC2 current wireless link aggregation not working correctly

2013-12-17 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 17:02:03 -0800 Xin Li delp...@delphij.net wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 12/17/13 09:34, Allan Jude wrote: If I am am understanding correctly, Dan and Nikolai say that just running 'ifconfig' brings the lagg back to life. Why would

Re: 10-RC unable to build kernel without INET (i.e. IPv6-only)

2013-12-17 Thread Gleb Smirnoff
Mark, On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 08:13:20PM +0100, Mark Martinec wrote: M Under 9.2 the following could be used to build an IPv6-only kernel: M M /sys/amd64/conf/TEST : M M include GENERIC M makeoptions MKMODULESENV+=WITHOUT_INET_SUPPORT= M nooptions INET M M M Now with stable/10 the: M M

Re: 11.0-CURRENT panic at (allegedly) a dpms signal (monitor off), in drm2

2013-12-17 Thread Markiyan Kushnir
2013/12/17 Jean-Sébastien Pédron jean-sebastien.ped...@dumbbell.fr: On 17.12.2013 13:19, Markiyan Kushnir wrote: Left my desktop (new Xorg, newcons, radeonkms) for a couple of minutes and found it rebooted after a panic. Never seen this kind of panic before. That's weird: the code leading to

Re: new Xorg (KMS, etc.) for Radeon 9600

2013-12-17 Thread dt71
Jean-Sébastien Pédron wrote, On 12/17/2013 22:20: On 16.12.2013 08:36, d...@gmx.com wrote: Still nobody wants to apply Robert Noland's DRM patch? What problem(s) does this patch fix? It fixes non-deterministic lockups when the (old, drm1) r300 drivers are used. According to John Baldwin

Re: 10-RC2 current wireless link aggregation not working correctly

2013-12-17 Thread dan_partelly
What claims you do not believe ? Not important anyway. This is engineering, so you need not believe, you need to know. Go and replicate the bug. You will know then. I don't really believe these claim. I had similar issue in the past and found an 'arp -a -d' would fix it so I didn't

Re: 10-RC2 current wireless link aggregation not working correctly

2013-12-17 Thread Xin Li
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 12/17/13, 11:28 PM, dan_partelly wrote: What claims you do not believe ? Not important anyway. This is engineering, so you need not believe, you need to know. Go and replicate the bug. You will know then. I don't believe in merely doing

Re: 10-RC2 current wireless link aggregation not working correctly

2013-12-17 Thread dan_partelly
I guarantee you that a simple interface list with ifconfig un-stucks the net on my setup, at lest in the case (master is wired, unplug ethernet, fail to wireless) I agree that it doesn't makes much sense, but no matter how unlikely it seems, it is a **fact**. I don't believe in merely