In the last episode (Apr 05), Alex Zepeda said:
Have you tried anything beyond -O2?
There is only -O3, which is just like -O2 except that it tries to
inline all functions.
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Alternately, we could jimmy around with the current hack, and prefix it
with 4 NULs, and see what happened. Sorry, I haven't tested this idea, as
I've not yet made the EGCS jump.
egcs aligns long (= about 28 bytes) strings to 32-byte boundaries. This
adds up to 27 NULs to sccsid[] depending on
On Mon, 5 Apr 1999, Matthew Dillon wrote:
There is nothing beyond -O2. Well, there's -O3, which tries to
inline static functions, but that typically isn't beneficial because
it really bloats up the code and subroutine calls on intel cpus are
very fast.
When I tested this
Of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world, Stephen
Hocking-Senior Programmer PGS Tensor Perth had to walk into mine and say:
Well, I nipped home over my lunch break gave it a try - some progress, of a
sort. My NFS problems have gone away (at least under light activity), but it
There is nothing beyond -O2. Well, there's -O3, which tries to
inline static functions, but that typically isn't beneficial because
it really bloats up the code and subroutine calls on intel cpus are
very fast.
The only other optimization that might be useful is
Matthew Dillon wrote:
:Totally informally, I replaced libc (compiled with -O2) with one compiled
:with -mpentiumpro and -O6, and compiling kdebase seemed to run a bit
:slower (GNU make took longer to traverse directories and egcs took a bit
:longer to run).
:
: Which leads me to
Following is error output from 'make -j6 buildworld' on sources cvsup'ed
today:
`gencheck.c' is up to date.
`c-parse.in' is up to date.
=== cc_int
make: don't know how to make insn-attrtab.c. Stop
*** Error code 2
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At 4:54 pm + 5/4/99, eagle wrote:
On Mon, 5 Apr 1999, eagle wrote:
I'm running a test build at -j3 now following the reccomended ncpus +1
formula everything looks great so far. if it fails i'll let you know
rob
build completed successfully will experment some more
Hmm. -j3 still fails
Hi,
At 2:15 am -0700 6/4/99, Daniel Berlin wrote:
Also, -mpentiumpro will actually usually generate WORSE code for a pentium
pro.
-mpentium and -march=pentium do better at it.
OK, but according to man cc:
NAME
gcc, g++ - GNU project C and C++ Compiler (egcs-1.1.2)
[...]
-mpentium
I always use both (because it's in my darn makefiles :P), but that sounds
correct to me. If it said -mpentium implied -march=pentium, i'd say it's
lying.
most of the -mwhatever architecture alone are worthless, it's the
-march's that matter (note i say most to mean of the 4 architectures i've
On Tue, 6 Apr 1999, Maxim Sobolev wrote:
Following is error output from 'make -j6 buildworld' on sources cvsup'ed
today:
`gencheck.c' is up to date.
`c-parse.in' is up to date.
=== cc_int
make: don't know how to make insn-attrtab.c. Stop
*** Error code 2
don't use -j x.
═
To
andrea wrote:
I have to add a gateway to my net for experimental reasons.
Actually there are : a main-router that works as interface to the Internet,
and some hosts on my sub net.
Internet-MyRouterMySubNet
NOw i need to configure one host of MYSubNet to act as a gatway for
* Kenneth D. Merry
| | Has the worm driver been taken out of current?
| | Yes. You have to use cdrecord now for SCSI CD burners.
| cdrecord lacks support for a whole lot of CD-burners...
| Oh really? The old Worm driver only supported HP/Philips and Plasmon
| drives. cdrecord supports those
Hmm. -j3 still fails here, in the usual place.
I haven't even started looking at the -j problem. There is still some
bootstrap problem with C++ (appears to be in libstdc++).
Sorry.
(of course patches gladly accepted :-) )
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To
I'm assuming that the default for egcs uses vtable thunks instead of
offsets in the vtable to handle multiple inheritance. It occurred to me
that since this changes the C++ calling convention, we have to bump the
major version number of all c++ libraries, particularly the ones in ports.
--
Doug
Andy V. Oleynik wrote,
[Charset koi8-r unsupported, filtering to ASCII...]
andrea wrote:
I have to add a gateway to my net for experimental reasons.
Actually there are : a main-router that works as interface to the Internet,
and some hosts on my sub net.
John S. Dyson dy...@iquest.net writes:
I just wanted to chime in and say that the new patches are based
on a really good concept, and is much cleaner than the previous
method. Also, many RISC architectures can utilize this
method due to the availability of lots of general registers.
(One
Matthew Dillon dil...@apollo.backplane.com writes:
UNIX has been broken this way from day 1. It was a major design mistake.
The only way to get your own descriptor seek offset is to open() the
file again.
It's not necessarily breakage. Not having any mechanism other than
open
Crist J. Clark wrote:
Andy V. Oleynik wrote,
[Charset koi8-r unsupported, filtering to ASCII...]
andrea wrote:
I have to add a gateway to my net for experimental reasons.
Actually there are : a main-router that works as interface to the
Internet,
and some hosts on my sub net.
OK - I've banged on the new version with extra debug messages and it still
locks up, but without any messages! I can only conclude that the 486MB BIOS is
iffy. I haven't tried any other slots in the MB, but have tried various PCI
settings, all to no avail. I have swapped the de0 and the rl0
I'm assuming that the default for egcs uses vtable thunks instead of
offsets in the vtable to handle multiple inheritance.
At the moment, yes.
It occurred to me that since this changes the C++ calling convention,
we have to bump the major version number of all c++ libraries,
particularly
'what' is broken. C does not impose any sort of address ordering
restriction on globals or autos that are declared next to each other.
Right, except that 'what' isn't broken. It is vers.c (and conf/newvers.sh)
that is broken, believing that the two variables will be allocating in
On Fri, 02 Apr 1999 17:26:15 PST, Scott Michel wrote:
Removing the * makes things work again, but the security check
wails about a user w/o a password.
The entries should not use * in the first place. With regard to the
security check, see PR 9639 at:
[I posted this to -current because the technology is the same in -current
even though this box will never run -current. Bear with me.]
We've just got a new Dell PowerEdge (very nice) with 512MB of ram. By
default, 3.1-stable sees only 64MB. Looking carefully, it sees 8KB less
than 64MB, so it
On Sun, 04 Apr 1999 12:48:04 GMT, George Cox wrote:
cc: Internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 11
[...]
FreeBSD-CURRENT -- Because I'm worth it.
How did you find out about CURRENT without finding out about the FAQ?
Please read section 4 of the FreeBSD FAQ, available online
Andreas Dobloug wrote...
* Kenneth D. Merry
| | Has the worm driver been taken out of current?
| | Yes. You have to use cdrecord now for SCSI CD burners.
| cdrecord lacks support for a whole lot of CD-burners...
| Oh really? The old Worm driver only supported HP/Philips and Plasmon
|
I'm having trouble with a kernel built from this mornings make world.
It seems to be related to the new SiS 5591 ide chipset support. It
gets as far as the automatic reboot in progress and then says:
wd0: interrupt timeout (status 50rdy,seekdone error 0)
wd0: wdtimeout() DMA status 0
wd0:
This occurs when I'm copying from a floppy (MS-DOS) to my home dir which is
on an FFS file system. Any ideas? Reproduced of course.
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gr...@unixhelp.org_ __ ___ | _ ) __| \
FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! _ __ | _
This time, I resupped at about 3 this morning (Eastern Standard Time) and
typed make -DNOGAMES world and now I get an error when it compiles dd,
and it quits compiling after that.
Kenneth Culver
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Of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world, Stephen
Hocking-Senior Programmer PGS Tensor Perth had to walk into mine and say:
OK - I've banged on the new version with extra debug messages and it still
locks up, but without any messages!
Grr.
I can only conclude that the 486MB
The real question is whether the extreme alignment and padding used by
EGCS can be turned off, especially for 486s.
Considering it... probably based on -m486.
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Whoops... I just noticed I made a small boo-boo in that last patch,
which I just fixed. When downloading, make sure you get the version of
if_rl.c with the following ID strings:
for 3.0: $Id: if_rl.c,v 1.28 1999/04/06 15:29:01 wpaul Exp $
for 2.2: $Id: if_rl.c,v 1.17 1999/04/06
per-processor registers that one could use (but loading a
general register with that per processor register would be
needed for access.) Also, since the PPC has lots of registers,
one could? permanently reserve one of the general registers (r13?).
I really don't like the idea of
:
:
:Matthew Dillon dil...@apollo.backplane.com writes:
:
: UNIX has been broken this way from day 1. It was a major design mistake.
: The only way to get your own descriptor seek offset is to open() the
: file again.
:
:It's not necessarily breakage. Not having any mechanism other
According to Bob Bishop:
Hmm. -j3 still fails here, in the usual place.
Even -j2 failed here. I completed a make world at around 15H GMT (suppoed
minutes before) w/o any problem and the machine is now happily running an
egcs-compiled kernel. Congrats again David.
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Hi,
The following patch makes -jn work. I don't claim it's any sort of
long-term solution.
The hack consists of simply dropping .NOTPARALLEL: into the right Makefile, but
since .NOTPARALLEL is broken (see bin/10985 for the gory details) you'll
need the attached patch for make too.
Index:
im having problems compiling the giCQ port under 4.0-current.
configuration says my C++ compiler cannot create executables, any idea
what's the problem ?
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Read the recent posts. Let me guess, you have probably done a fairly recent
cvsup (sunday evening?) and you built world. You now have egcs as your
compiler (gcc -v). The best thing to do, at least the easiest to tell you
to do, is to simply cvsup the sources again and make the world. You
-Original Message-
From: Matthew Dillon [mailto:dil...@apollo.backplane.com]
Sent: 06 April 1999 05:58
To: curr...@freebsd.org
Subject: EGCS optimizations
Compiling up /usr/src/usr.sbin with egcs and libc compiled with:
-O2 160
:I doubt that that sort of benchmark is going to say an awful lot about the
:performance of the optimisation levels since compiling /usr/sr/usr.sbin is
:going to be affected by disk i/o performance far more than it would be by
:cpu performance. The relative speed differences of the different
In message 199904062001.naa10...@apollo.backplane.com, Matthew Dillon writes:
That test was 100% cpu bound. There was no ( significant ) I/O. I ran
it a few times to build the cache before timing it.
What is the stddev on your measurements ?
a delta-T 1 second need a very tight
On Mon, 5 Apr 1999, Alex Zepeda wrote:
On Mon, 5 Apr 1999, Matthew Dillon wrote:
There is nothing beyond -O2. Well, there's -O3, which tries to
inline static functions, but that typically isn't beneficial because
it really bloats up the code and subroutine calls on intel
On Tue, 6 Apr 1999, Bruce Evans wrote:
Alternately, we could jimmy around with the current hack, and prefix it
with 4 NULs, and see what happened. Sorry, I haven't tested this idea, as
I've not yet made the EGCS jump.
egcs aligns long (= about 28 bytes) strings to 32-byte boundaries.
:it a few times to build the cache before timing it.
:
:What is the stddev on your measurements ?
:
:a delta-T 1 second need a very tight stddev to be significant.
The timing was +/- 0.5 second ( I ran the test four times ). But, remember,
this is not comparing against GCC. This
:What is the stddev on your measurements ?
:
:a delta-T 1 second need a very tight stddev to be significant.
I would say that a 1% increase or decrease in performance is not
significant, so stddev is not significant either. There are too many
other factors ( such as running a
On Tue, 6 Apr 1999, Matthew Dillon wrote:
It's no big deal, really. I think the EGCS bandwagon is going to continue
to move forward and PGCS runs on top of it, so moving to EGCS puts FreeBSD
in a better position in the long term.
Well what would be the chances of getting the pgcc
Well what would be the chances of getting the pgcc patches committed?
I'm quite interested in doing this, BUT only after the dust has settled
on the EGCS import and the Alpha build is fixed. Also the 1.1.2 PGCC
patches aren't available yet.
jdp and I have another round of bootstraping to fix
'what' is broken. C does not impose any sort of address ordering
restriction on globals or autos that are declared next to each other.
Right, except that 'what' isn't broken. It is vers.c (and conf/newvers.sh)
that is broken, believing that the two variables will be allocating in
contiguous
im having problems compiling the giCQ port under 4.0-current.
configuration says my C++ compiler cannot create executables, any idea
what's the problem ?
On the bootstrap `make world' to EGCS libstdc++ is broken. Do a second
`make world' and you will have a working system.
I know what the
On Tue, 6 Apr 1999, David O'Brien wrote:
Well what would be the chances of getting the pgcc patches committed?
I'm quite interested in doing this, BUT only after the dust has settled
on the EGCS import and the Alpha build is fixed. Also the 1.1.2 PGCC
patches aren't available yet.
Chuck Robey wrote:
I just finished a buildworld, and I'm not sure about the laoder binary.
In my obj/usr/src/sys/boot/i386/loader directory, I have 3 files that
might be loader:
-rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 135168 Apr 5 19:01 loader
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 121672 Apr 5 19:01 loader.bin*
:This occurs when I'm copying from a floppy (MS-DOS) to my home dir which is
:on an FFS file system. Any ideas? Reproduced of course.
:
: Brian Feldman_ __ ___ ___ ___ ___
: gr...@unixhelp.org_ __ ___ | _ ) __| \
Brian, if the contents of the floppy
On Wed, 7 Apr 1999, Robert Nordier wrote:
Chuck Robey wrote:
I just finished a buildworld, and I'm not sure about the laoder binary.
In my obj/usr/src/sys/boot/i386/loader directory, I have 3 files that
might be loader:
-rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 135168 Apr 5 19:01 loader
On Tue, 6 Apr 1999, Matthew Dillon wrote:
:This occurs when I'm copying from a floppy (MS-DOS) to my home dir which is
:on an FFS file system. Any ideas? Reproduced of course.
:
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: gr...@unixhelp.org_ __ ___ | _ ) __|
In article 199904061701.kaa09...@apollo.backplane.com,
Matthew Dillon dil...@apollo.backplane.com wrote:
:
:It's not necessarily breakage. Not having any mechanism other than
:open to get your own seek offset is nasty, but sharing a seek offset
:can also be useful. File descriptors can't be
Sheldon Hearn sheld...@iafrica.com writes:
-awk -F: '$2== {print $0}' /etc/master.passwd
+grep -v '^\+' /etc/master.passwd | awk -F: '$2== {print $0}'
agh!
awk -F: '$1 !~ /^\+/ $2== {print $0}' /etc/master.passwd
DES
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To
At 5:00 pm -0700 6/4/99, John Polstra wrote:
[...]
But O_APPEND didn't exist in early versions of Unix. I'm sure it
wasn't present in V6, and I'm pretty sure it wasn't present in V7
either.
[Blows dust off V7 manual]
You're right: it wasn't.
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p...@freebsd.org Real hackers run -current on their
In article xfmail.990405195134@polstra.com,
John Polstra j...@polstra.com wrote:
If you are trying to follow the fast pace in -current right now, I'd
suggest that you avoid cvsup4 until it's fixed. I'll announce that
when it happens.
It's looking like cvsup4 may be down for the count.
On Tuesday, 6 April 1999 at 15:44:51 +0100, David Malone wrote:
I'm having trouble with a kernel built from this mornings make world.
It seems to be related to the new SiS 5591 ide chipset support. It
gets as far as the automatic reboot in progress and then says:
wd0: interrupt timeout
On 06-Apr-99 Kenneth D. Merry wrote:
I've got a Matsushita CW-7501. I'll send him a mail.
My guess is that cdrecord won't support it. See:
http://www.fokus.gmd.de/research/cc/glone/employees/joerg.schilling/private/c
dr-unsup.html
And remember that Matsushita == Panasonic.
From
Daniel O'Connor wrote...
On 06-Apr-99 Kenneth D. Merry wrote:
I've got a Matsushita CW-7501. I'll send him a mail.
My guess is that cdrecord won't support it. See:
http://www.fokus.gmd.de/research/cc/glone/employees/joerg.schilling/private/c
dr-unsup.html
And remember
On 07-Apr-99 Kenneth D. Merry wrote:
Look at the line just below the URL above, and then look at the web page
again.
Ack I am blind.
I did read that line but proceeded to not read the web page properly sigh
The 7501 isn't mentioned as being compatible anywhere I can see though.
That's
On Mon, 5 Apr 1999, andrea wrote:
[etc.]
If I read you correctly, what you want to do is something like this:
internet
|
main router
192.168.1.1/24
|
|-- other hosts on 192.168.1.0/25 subnet
|
192.168.1.2/25
How many times does gcc get built in a make buildworld? I had assumed
only twice, is this wrong?
Cheers,
joelh
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I'll be in the Reading / London area from Friday morning until
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There's one this evening (Wednesday) in London, but nothing on the
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If you're interested in a beer on Sunday
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