Re: Questions about -current (Linuxism's)

2002-01-22 Thread Terry Lambert

Leif Neland wrote:
 
 While I realize you can't emulate the switches on any command on any os, I
 found a few linuxism's missing.
 
 Eg: I find it illogical, that route can change, and also display the
 route to a single host, but route can not display the entire route table.
 In linux it is simply route, in windows it is route print, but in
 FreeBSD it is netstat -r

I love the fact that Linux shell scripts aren't portable to
UNIX machines because their /bin/sh based scripts end up with
bash-isms and Linux-isms out the wazoo.

Apparently they never read the 1978 bell labs technical journal
article on how you build commands out of lesser commands, rather
than jamming all the functionality into every command.

On the other hand, I've often found it annoying that the 'ls'
command doesn't display 'ps' information, like it does on Linux...
not.

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Re: i4b driver broken for -current?

2002-01-22 Thread Marc Ernst Eddy van Woerkom

 I think it was my patch. Something with mtx_initialized()?.

Exactly.


 /sys/netinet; cvs update -r 1.60 in.c if you use cvs instead of CVSup).

I mirror the cvs repository. 1.60 is from October too, so I should
have it.


 freebsd.org or any other source) you have to use the userland ppp.

I have tried userland ppp, using the example stuff from /share/..,
but without success. It either doesn't work for some reason, or 
I made a mistake with the configuration setup.

If anyone could provide me another example configuration I
would be grateful. (Would be nice to test the ability to
use both ISDN channels too).

Regards,
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chinput can't work on KDE2.2.2

2002-01-22 Thread Liu Siwei

Hi,all:
I have a question about FreeBSD's locale. I use the zh_CN.EUC locale to 
let my FreeBSD support Simplied Chinese. It's all right in gnome 1.4. But in 
recent version of KDE(aka. KDE-2.2.2), I can't set zh_CN.EUC locale for it. 
For I have select the country is Asia-China, language is  Simplied Chinese, 
code is gb2312.1980. I need not set any locale in my environment to display 
Simplied Chinese at all. But for I have not set locale, I can't use chinput 
in KDE. So I set my locale to zh_CN.EUC in my $HOME/.xinitrc. But when I 
restart my KDE, it can't display Chinese word proper! in kedit, kwrite, etc, 
I can use chinput through I can't input any Chinese word proper. If I set my 
locale to zh_CN.GB2312, zh_CN.GBK or nothing, the KDE can display Chinese 
word proper, but I can't use chinput.
So, how to set ocale to let chinput work under KDE2.2.2?
A very inportant QUESTION is: why FreeBSD want zh_CN.EUC while KDE is 
not?
My machine is AMD-K7 700, FreeBSD-current,all software are installed 
from ports(sources).



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Re: PPP Dial of External Modem Fails in 'Current'

2002-01-22 Thread Brian Somers

 
 I rebuilt 'Current' over the weekend with a make buildworld/install world
 and make buildkernel/install kernel and 'ppp -ddial papchap' gives the
 following error(s) when trying to dial an external modem:
 
  Warning set ifadr:  Invalid command
  Warning set ifadr:  Falied 1
 
 
  Does anyone know what might be causing this ??

Sorry I'm a bit late in replying.  The above command is ``set 
ifaddr'', not ``set ifadr'' :)

 Thanks,
 Glenn G. 

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Re: i4b driver broken for -current?

2002-01-22 Thread Alexander Leidinger

On 21 Jan, Joerg Wunsch wrote:

 You have to use rev. 1.60 of /sys/netinet/in.c (cd
 /sys/netinet;
 
 No, you're wrong.  This bug has been fixed as one of the first of my

Yeah! I love to be proven wrong in such situations. :-)

 series of committs that brought the i4b version of sppp back into the
 mainstream version.  Otherwise i could not have worked at all. ;-)

[revision 1.74 of if_spppsubr.c]

I did read the commit message in cvs-all, but wasn't able to add a
relationship to Brian's commit to in.c, which I backed out locally every
time since then without testing if it works now.

Bye,
Alexander (compiling a new kernel now).

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Re: i4b driver broken for -current?

2002-01-22 Thread Alexander Leidinger

On 22 Jan, Marc Ernst Eddy van Woerkom wrote:

 /sys/netinet; cvs update -r 1.60 in.c if you use cvs instead of CVSup).
 
 I mirror the cvs repository. 1.60 is from October too, so I should
 have it.

As Jörg already pointed out, a recent -current (I use one from Jan 20)
works with 1.61 too (ispppcontrol - spppcontrol), I write this with a
kernel with rev 1.61 of in.c

 freebsd.org or any other source) you have to use the userland ppp.
 
 I have tried userland ppp, using the example stuff from /share/..,
 but without success. It either doesn't work for some reason, or 
 I made a mistake with the configuration setup.
 
 If anyone could provide me another example configuration I
 would be grateful. (Would be nice to test the ability to
 use both ISDN channels too).

Update to a recent -current and try again with sppp, it works for me.

Bye,
Alexander.

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Re: FreeBSD 5.x

2002-01-22 Thread Jason Andresen

Terry Lambert wrote:
 
 Alp Atici wrote:
  Is gcc 3.x going to be the default compiler starting from
  FBSD 5.x series? Is the development on current branch
  compiled using gcc 3.0 (or up)?
 
 I think that the cut over will happen after the compiler
 no longer core dumps on:

Odd, I can't reproduce that under RedHat:

RedHat gypsy/pts/0 (5 ~): cat gcctest.c
 main()
{
int i;

i = foo();

switch( i) {
default:
printf( hello, stupid compiler!\n);
break;
}
}

int
foo()
{
return( 6);
}

RedHat gypsy/pts/0 (6 ~): gcc3 -v
Reading specs from /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/3.0.2/specs
Configured with: ../configure --prefix=/usr --mandir=/usr/share/man
--infodir=/usr/share/info --enable-shared --enable-threads=posix
--disable-checking --host=i386-redhat-linux
Thread model: posix
gcc version 3.0.2 20010905 (Red Hat Linux 7.1 3.0.1-3)
RedHat gypsy/pts/0 (7 ~): gcc3 -Wall -pedantic -o gcctest gcctest.c
gcctest.c:2: warning: return type defaults to `int'
gcctest.c: In function `main':
gcctest.c:5: warning: implicit declaration of function `foo'
gcctest.c:9: warning: implicit declaration of function `printf'
gcctest.c:12: warning: control reaches end of non-void function
RedHat gypsy/pts/0 (8 ~): ./gcctest
hello, stupid compiler!


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Re: chinput can't work on KDE2.2.2

2002-01-22 Thread Will Andrews

On Tue, Jan 22, 2002 at 08:56:13AM +, Liu Siwei wrote:

This question is not appropriate for the -current list.  I'm
expanding this to include the maintainers of the KDE ports to see
if anyone else has an idea what's going on.

I have a question about FreeBSD's locale. I use the zh_CN.EUC locale to 
 let my FreeBSD support Simplied Chinese. It's all right in gnome 1.4. But in 
 
 recent version of KDE(aka. KDE-2.2.2), I can't set zh_CN.EUC locale for it. 
 For I have select the country is Asia-China, language is  Simplied Chinese, 
 code is gb2312.1980. I need not set any locale in my environment to display 
 Simplied Chinese at all. But for I have not set locale, I can't use chinput 
 in KDE. So I set my locale to zh_CN.EUC in my $HOME/.xinitrc. But when I 
 restart my KDE, it can't display Chinese word proper! in kedit, kwrite, etc, 
 
 I can use chinput through I can't input any Chinese word proper. If I set my 
 
 locale to zh_CN.GB2312, zh_CN.GBK or nothing, the KDE can display Chinese 
 word proper, but I can't use chinput.
So, how to set ocale to let chinput work under KDE2.2.2?
A very inportant QUESTION is: why FreeBSD want zh_CN.EUC while KDE is 
 not?
My machine is AMD-K7 700, FreeBSD-current,all software are installed 
 from ports(sources).

I'm sorry but I can't help with this specific problem since I do
not use any locale other than the default.  :(

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PAM/Kerberos `integration'? (was Re: Step5, pam_opie OPIE auth fix for review)

2002-01-22 Thread Jacques A. Vidrine

On Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 01:55:53PM -0800, Terry Lambert wrote:
 Jacques A. Vidrine wrote:
   In the way that the author of the PAM architecture from Sun
   spoke at the Silicon Valley BSD User's Group meeting,
  
  Do you have a reference, or do we have to guess what you are talking
  about? :-)
 
 I have my memory of the talk he gave, which included the idea
 that Sun was not supporting work to modify the PAM architecture
 to support Kerberos in the future.

The PAM architecture doesn't need any modifications to support
Kerberos.  It supports Kerberos today.

 Basically, you can use it for authentication and password change,
 but for little else, and even those uses require going through
 incredible hoops (e.g. abusing the authentication module API to
 implement a credential cache).

 Did you need more?

I guess so.  There are many Kerberos 5 PAM modules in existence today,
and they support interactive authentication pretty well.  There is
even some agreement among the authors of related modules on how the
credentials cache can be exported for stacking (e.g. for DCE).  I
can't imagine what `incredible hoops' or `abuse' you might be talking
about.

The PAM API already includes entry points specificially for the
management of credentials.

Put another way, in your first sentence above, what might you mean by
`for little else'?
 
 Are you really just fishing for Paul Fronberg's email address?

No.  I'm probably just wasting my time :-) You have stood up and asked
for something, but have not given any indication of what it is you
want to accomplish.  Curiousity has the better of me.

 Maybe this release note from HP will explain the limitations
 satisfactorily:
 
 http://docs.hp.com/hpux/onlinedocs/J5849-90001/J5849-90001.html
 
 NB: This is just for authentication, mostly preauthentication.

These seem to be limitations of HP's pam_krb5 module, not of PAM.  And
again, it is unclear what limitations you might be concerned about.
No account management?  Well, that's not Kerberos's job.  No
credentials management?  That's a problem with HP's implementation --
see /usr/ports/security/pam_krb5 or pam_krb5 in our base system (they
are closely related) for one way it can be done.  Limited
preauthentication choices?  That has to do with the Kerberos
implementation, not PAM.

I feel like I'm having my leg pulled.

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Re: profiled kernel build fails was Re: -CURRENT AIO bug

2002-01-22 Thread Bruce Evans

On Sun, 20 Jan 2002, k Macy wrote:

 Should I file a PR to track this or is that overkill?

Yes, it would be overkill.  Remind me if it's not fixed in a week or two.

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ATAPI CD doesn't listed up to 'kern.disks' kernel MIB

2002-01-22 Thread Makoto Matsushita


I found that acd, ATAPI CD device, doesn't listed up to 'kern.disks'
kernel MIB which should list all disks in the running system.

Here is a sample:

ringo % sysctl kern.disks
kern.disks: ad0
ringo % grep acd /var/run/dmesg.boot
acd0: CDROM TOSHIBA CD-ROM XM-6202B at ata1-master PIO4
ringo %

I've investigated that this is because ATAPI CD driver doesn't call
disk_create() when detecting CD device.  Other disks, including SCSI
CD or RAID HDD calls this function.

http://snapshots.jp.freebsd.org/tour/current/cgi-bin/global.cgi?pattern=disk_createid=type=reference

Is it a feature or something forgotten to add it?

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Current on SuperMicro SMP

2002-01-22 Thread Pete Carah

Supermicro P3TDDE (I think; may be a TDDA, but it does have the promise
chip).

This board is Via-based and not Intel.  Could easily be my problem :-(
Don't know about the APIC.

Stable runs just fine on the same motherboard (dual-boot, stable on
ad0 and current on ad1) including reboot (see below about current's reboot).

Not running setiathome at all may or may not have helped; it still died
in the middle of a make -j5 world (j5 is the best make time on this
system) (but did make it through one such make world; died on the second).
When it runs, make -j5 world takes about 31.5 minutes for stable and
somewhat longer (around 40 minutes) for current without invariants/witness;
with invariants and witness make -j4 world is the fastest at just over 2 hours.

The hang happens the same with or without invariants and/or witness.

Still allowing ACPI; haven't yet tried disabling it.
I need to figure out how to get NMI; there are no ISA slots so that isn't
a useful way (like an *old* debugger card which I think I still have one of).

Another hint (may be more useful) is that either reboot or halt ends up:
-
Waiting  for vnlru
Wa

--
Sometimes the second line is just W and sometimes Wa, never longer.
This appears independent of which cpu says boot() called on cpu 0 (or 1)

This (like the other hang) is a hard hang, needs reset button to get out.

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