Re: Need help fixing failing locale tests

2015-11-15 Thread John Marino
On 11/15/2015 1:56 PM, Andrey Chernov wrote: > On 15.11.2015 15:46, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: >> On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 03:24:19PM +0300, Andrey Chernov wrote: >>> On 15.11.2015 10:09, John Marino wrote: >>> ISO8859-1 locales are legacy even if obsolet

Re: Need help fixing failing locale tests

2015-11-15 Thread John Marino
On 11/15/2015 2:10 PM, Andrey Chernov wrote: >> Well, there is "harm". The -1/-15 confusion happens a lot. > > It is user confusion and his responsibility. It not leads to wrong > program build f.e. Moreover, you can't protect users who set 8859-1 that > way, they do not convert to 8859-15 as

Re: Need help fixing failing locale tests

2015-11-15 Thread John Marino
On 11/15/2015 3:39 PM, Andrey Chernov wrote: > As I already say, I don't want to insist on any particular point of view > in such area as human behavior. I just say that it is POLA violation > (even while it is upgrade) and we can let users decide by themselves, > what it best for them (without me

Re: Need help fixing failing locale tests

2015-11-15 Thread John Marino
PM +0300, Andrey Chernov wrote: >>>>> On 15.11.2015 10:09, John Marino wrote: >>>>> ISO8859-1 locales are legacy even if obsoleted in modern world (I agree >>>>> with that). Lots of ports (even at configure stage!) have checks for >>>>> them. Since we genera

Re: Need help fixing failing locale tests

2015-11-15 Thread John Marino
On 11/15/2015 2:36 PM, Andrey Chernov wrote: > On 15.11.2015 16:14, John Marino wrote: >>> It is user confusion and his responsibility. It not leads to wrong >>> program build f.e. Moreover, you can't protect users who set 8859-1 that >>> way, they do not convert to 8

Re: Need help fixing failing locale tests

2015-11-15 Thread John Marino
On 11/15/2015 4:46 AM, NGie Cooper wrote: > >> On Nov 14, 2015, at 19:28, NGie Cooper wrote: > > … > >> Why were these locales removed? >> >> 58 OLD_FILES+=usr/share/locale/la_LN.ISO8859-1/LC_COLLATE >> 59 OLD_FILES+=usr/share/locale/la_LN.ISO8859-1/LC_CTYPE >> 60

Re: Need help fixing failing locale tests

2015-11-15 Thread John Marino
On 11/15/2015 8:24 AM, NGie Cooper wrote: >> On Nov 14, 2015, at 23:09, John Marino <dragonfly...@marino.st> wrote: >> Bapt liked DF approach well enough that he adopted it. Even Edwin was >> first in desiring to clean up locales. The major update was a perfect

Re: Need help fixing failing locale tests

2015-11-15 Thread John Marino
On 11/15/2015 12:23 PM, Craig Rodrigues wrote: > > > On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 11:47 PM, John Marino <freebsd.cont...@marino.st > <mailto:freebsd.cont...@marino.st>> wrote: > > > With 4.) they have been removed from FreeBSD when "Make upgrade" i

Re: Need help fixing failing locale tests

2015-11-15 Thread John Marino
On 11/15/2015 4:38 PM, Andrey Chernov wrote: > On 15.11.2015 18:17, John Marino wrote: >> >> For the traditional checks, It's ironic, DragonFly uses short locales >> like "fr_FR" which link to the approprioprate ISO8859 or UTF-8 locale. >> Bapt removed th

Re: Need help fixing failing locale tests

2015-11-15 Thread John Marino
On 11/15/2015 3:59 PM, Andrey Chernov wrote: > On 15.11.2015 17:47, John Marino wrote: >>>> Please provide an example of such a program (in ports). >>> >>> See gettext-0.19.6/gettext-tools/configure, part started with >>> # Test for the usual loca

Re: gccmakedep fix - 20130619

2013-06-18 Thread John Marino
On 6/19/2013 01:00, Oliver Pinter wrote: Hi all! Attached a fix to gccmakedep. So 1) There's already multiple PRs on this, including one I just submitted: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=179571 2) Your patch adds an .endif which is already there 3) Is not it better to submit