Re: Random signals in {build,install}world recently?
On Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 02:46:03PM -0500, Andre Guibert de Bruet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 21 Oct 2003, Vallo Kallaste wrote: I went back to last known good kernel/world combination, which is from September 16. The next and problematic kernel/world pair is from September 30. So the problem was introduced between these dates. Well, I have a system from the 25th that works just fine, we're looking between the dates of 9/25 - 9/30. It is fixed, grab newer sources. -- Vallo Kallaste ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Random signals in {build,install}world recently?
On Tue, Oct 28, 2003 at 09:01:35AM +0200, Vallo Kallaste wrote: Well, I have a system from the 25th that works just fine, we're looking between the dates of 9/25 - 9/30. It is fixed, grab newer sources. It seems mostly but not completely fixed. I got one sig11 (on touch :) building ports. Retrying the port (Mozilla 1.5, pretty big) succeeded, and I got no further sigs doing portupgrade -ap. As always, I can't completely rule out h/w, but the system has never produced any sigs doing builds on RELENG_5_1 or -current before 9/24. However the behavior is very much improved, as -currents after 9/24 until the pmap.c fix would get sigs every few minutes. (Reminder, this is a dual-athlon.) -- Barney Wolff http://www.databus.com/bwresume.pdf I'm available by contract or FT, in the NYC metro area or via the 'Net. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Random signals in {build,install}world recently?
On Tue, 21 Oct 2003, Vallo Kallaste wrote: I went back to last known good kernel/world combination, which is from September 16. The next and problematic kernel/world pair is from September 30. So the problem was introduced between these dates. Well, I have a system from the 25th that works just fine, we're looking between the dates of 9/25 - 9/30. Regards, Andre Guibert de Bruet | Enterprise Software Consultant Silicon Landmark, LLC. | http://siliconlandmark.com/ ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Random signals in {build,install}world recently?
On Tue, 2003-10-21 at 07:59, Terry Lambert wrote: Christian Brueffer wrote: I don't think so. I tried that on my A7M266D with no effect. I believe something in recent pmap code doesn't like this mobo, or maybe dual athlons in general. I can run RELENG_5_1 rock solid, and -current from 9/24/03 rock solid, but -current from 10/3 or later gets random sigs and eventually panics. I have scsi disks so it's not ata. I have the same experiences. Also AMD A7M-266D with two 1800+ Athlons here. Used to work fine, but got random signals with my latest builds. On thing that occurs to me: try the other scheduler: there were recent changes in this area, which may be the problem. I also get random segfaults and ICEs on my dual 1900+ system with recent current. It certainly isn't hardware problems since older kernels work very nicely. I haven't got around to trying to diagnose what is causing it yet though. I was planning to try disabling a few things like SSE, PSE etc and see if I could improve things. My kernel is dated from 1 October (I did try a bit later than that but those ones just paniced all over themselves, very messy). ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Random signals in {build,install}world recently?
From: Doug Rabson [EMAIL PROTECTED] I also get random segfaults and ICEs on my dual 1900+ system with recent current. It certainly isn't hardware problems since older kernels work very nicely. I haven't got around to trying to diagnose what is causing it yet though. I was planning to try disabling a few things like SSE, PSE etc and see if I could improve things. My kernel is dated from 1 October (I did try a bit later than that but those ones just paniced all over themselves, very messy). I've been seeing those on my laptop (PII-700 in an HP Omnibook 6000). What I did find is that if I disable SSE (options CPU_DISABLE_SSE) then I can build without issue. I haven't had to disable anything else. Credit for this goes to somebody else on the list (don't remember who) who said it worked for them. Please DO NOT send me ANY email directly unless it's a privacy issue. Reply-to mangled to assist those who don't read the above. -- Rob | What part of no was it you didn't understand? _ Hotmail messages direct to your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Random signals in {build,install}world recently?
Harti Brandt wrote: On Mon, 20 Oct 2003, Mark Santcroos wrote: MSOn Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 10:27:38AM +0200, Harti Brandt wrote: MS On Mon, 20 Oct 2003, Vallo Kallaste wrote: MS VKBasically one will get random signals as I have got in build- and MS VKinstallworld. It's impossible to complete make -j2 buildworld on my MS VKmachine, but sometimes non-parallel buildworld will do, only to die MS VKlater in installworld. MS VKThis is on two-processor AMD 2400+ MP system, ASUS A7M-266D mobo and MS VK1GB ECC memory, ATA disks and CD/RW-DVD only. 4BSD scheduler if it MS VKmatters. MS MS I have the same MB just with 1800+ processors. I had to reduce the CPU MS frequency by about 10% in the BIOS setup to get the machine stable. I MS assume the problem is actually the memory. MS MSCouldn't the following be of help here? MS MSoptions DISABLE_PSE MSoptions DISABLE_PG_G Is the processor bug that these options seem to circumvent dependend on the actual operating frequency of the processor? No. It is dependent on the amount of memory in the system, and the specific processor features. For example, if you have a newer chip pair, you are more likely to see the problem than on an older system, though all Pentium class processors supporting 4M pages have the problems. If the issues you are seeing are not signal 10's in processes or a trap 12 (page not present) panic of the kernel, then most likely the issue with the 1800+ machine is thermal, if it is not in fact a bad memory issue (have your memory tested on a professional test machine). I've noticed a lot of bad problems with Hynix memory lately; your mileage may vary. At Whistle we had a problem with memory with Gold contacts, and didn't have any problems with the ones with Tin. If you could enable HLT in the idle loop (there is a sysctl, and, I don't know if it's been integrated yet, Julian Elischer published a patch that did this and aded an IPI to work around the scheduling latency, which is what not having the HLT supposedly fixed), then you will likely see the intermittent problem clear itself up, if it is in fact thermal. If you are overclocking your machine, or you have bought parts that have been falsely labeled as higher frequency than they are actually rated to run at (counterfeit chips), then either of these issues could also be your problem. So could a borderline power supply. -- Terry ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Random signals in {build,install}world recently?
Barney Wolff wrote: I don't think so. I tried that on my A7M266D with no effect. I believe something in recent pmap code doesn't like this mobo, or maybe dual athlons in general. I can run RELENG_5_1 rock solid, and -current from 9/24/03 rock solid, but -current from 10/3 or later gets random sigs and eventually panics. I have scsi disks so it's not ata. I think you need to define random; do you mean rare in frequency over time at unpredicatable intervals or you never know what program is going to get shot in the head, every 5 seconds, like clockwork? My impression so far in this therad is that it's the former. If it's the latter, then I need to think about the problem differently. Note that you can identify the patch that caused the problem, if there's an 8 day difference, in no more than 4 kernel recompiles (log2(8)+1), if you have a local CVS mirror. -- Terry ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Random signals in {build,install}world recently?
Christian Brueffer wrote: I don't think so. I tried that on my A7M266D with no effect. I believe something in recent pmap code doesn't like this mobo, or maybe dual athlons in general. I can run RELENG_5_1 rock solid, and -current from 9/24/03 rock solid, but -current from 10/3 or later gets random sigs and eventually panics. I have scsi disks so it's not ata. I have the same experiences. Also AMD A7M-266D with two 1800+ Athlons here. Used to work fine, but got random signals with my latest builds. On thing that occurs to me: try the other scheduler: there were recent changes in this area, which may be the problem. -- Terry ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Random signals in {build,install}world recently?
On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 11:45:21PM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote: I've noticed a lot of bad problems with Hynix memory lately; your mileage may vary. At Whistle we had a problem with memory with Gold contacts, and didn't have any problems with the ones with Tin. A good rule of thumb is to make sure that the finish on the DIMM contacts are the same as the ones on the DIMM socket - both gold or both tin. Note that whilst gold doesn't oxidise, it's fairly easy to make a gold coating so thin that it's gas permeable allowing the underlying metal to oxidise. Peter ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Random signals in {build,install}world recently?
On 21 Oct, Peter Jeremy wrote: On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 11:45:21PM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote: I've noticed a lot of bad problems with Hynix memory lately; your mileage may vary. At Whistle we had a problem with memory with Gold contacts, and didn't have any problems with the ones with Tin. A good rule of thumb is to make sure that the finish on the DIMM contacts are the same as the ones on the DIMM socket - both gold or both tin. Note that whilst gold doesn't oxidise, it's fairly easy to make a gold coating so thin that it's gas permeable allowing the underlying metal to oxidise. Mixing tin and gold can cause galvanic corrosion. You can also have connection problems due to the buildup of tin oxide on the gold surface. I had memory corruption problems on my Athlon UP system that I tracked down to a memory timing misconfiguration. My memory was rated for a CAS Latency of 2.5, but the motherboard BIOS in auto memory configuration mode set the timing to 2.0. When I manually configured the memory timing, the errors went away. The memory errors would show up as random file corruption in make buildworld, and I also saw errors on one of the last tests that memtest86 performs. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Random signals in {build,install}world recently?
On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 11:57:48PM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote: Barney Wolff wrote: I don't think so. I tried that on my A7M266D with no effect. I believe something in recent pmap code doesn't like this mobo, or maybe dual athlons in general. I can run RELENG_5_1 rock solid, and -current from 9/24/03 rock solid, but -current from 10/3 or later gets random sigs and eventually panics. I have scsi disks so it's not ata. I think you need to define random; do you mean rare in frequency over time at unpredicatable intervals or you never know what program is going to get shot in the head, every 5 seconds, like clockwork? The latter, with the interval being more like a very few minutes rather than seconds. The system would sit fine when idle, but never make it all the way through buildworld, or buildkernel, or building a port. In one notorious instance, the -current kernel didn't even make it through installworld without a sig. grep, sed, awk, sh have all gotten sigs, not just cc. My impression so far in this therad is that it's the former. If it's the latter, then I need to think about the problem differently. Note that you can identify the patch that caused the problem, if there's an 8 day difference, in no more than 4 kernel recompiles (log2(8)+1), if you have a local CVS mirror. The frequency of patches to pmap was quite high, and that was not the only file patched. But yes, I can do a binary search. I haven't, because the changes to pmap were architectural; we're not talking about a typo here. Of course it's just my assumption that it's pmap because the eventual panic is there. btw, I use sched_bsd so _ule is not a suspect. -- Barney Wolff http://www.databus.com/bwresume.pdf I'm available by contract or FT, in the NYC metro area or via the 'Net. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Random signals in {build,install}world recently?
On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 04:38:32PM +0300, Vallo Kallaste [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip all] Ok, following up my own email.. I went back to last known good kernel/world combination, which is from September 16. The next and problematic kernel/world pair is from September 30. So the problem was introduced between these dates. I've built world and kernel from Sep 16 sources 00:00:00 UTC and my system is solid again, it's the fourth make -j4 buildworld in a row now and the problem (signals and ICE's in buildworld, not pmap_enter) is gone. My cents towards resolving this problem.. -- Vallo Kallaste ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Random signals in {build,install}world recently?
Hi It seems to be a recent problem. The hardware is OK, both Windows XP (which I use very seldom) and Gentoo Linux do not exhibit any problems. Basically one will get random signals as I have got in build- and installworld. It's impossible to complete make -j2 buildworld on my machine, but sometimes non-parallel buildworld will do, only to die later in installworld. This is on two-processor AMD 2400+ MP system, ASUS A7M-266D mobo and 1GB ECC memory, ATA disks and CD/RW-DVD only. 4BSD scheduler if it matters. -- Vallo Kallaste ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Random signals in {build,install}world recently?
On Mon, 20 Oct 2003, Vallo Kallaste wrote: VKHi VK VKIt seems to be a recent problem. The hardware is OK, both Windows XP VK(which I use very seldom) and Gentoo Linux do not exhibit any VKproblems. VKBasically one will get random signals as I have got in build- and VKinstallworld. It's impossible to complete make -j2 buildworld on my VKmachine, but sometimes non-parallel buildworld will do, only to die VKlater in installworld. VKThis is on two-processor AMD 2400+ MP system, ASUS A7M-266D mobo and VK1GB ECC memory, ATA disks and CD/RW-DVD only. 4BSD scheduler if it VKmatters. I have the same MB just with 1800+ processors. I had to reduce the CPU frequency by about 10% in the BIOS setup to get the machine stable. I assume the problem is actually the memory. harti -- harti brandt, http://www.fokus.fraunhofer.de/research/cc/cats/employees/hartmut.brandt/private [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Random signals in {build,install}world recently?
On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 10:27:38AM +0200, Harti Brandt wrote: On Mon, 20 Oct 2003, Vallo Kallaste wrote: VKHi VK VKIt seems to be a recent problem. The hardware is OK, both Windows XP VK(which I use very seldom) and Gentoo Linux do not exhibit any VKproblems. VKBasically one will get random signals as I have got in build- and VKinstallworld. It's impossible to complete make -j2 buildworld on my VKmachine, but sometimes non-parallel buildworld will do, only to die VKlater in installworld. VKThis is on two-processor AMD 2400+ MP system, ASUS A7M-266D mobo and VK1GB ECC memory, ATA disks and CD/RW-DVD only. 4BSD scheduler if it VKmatters. I have the same MB just with 1800+ processors. I had to reduce the CPU frequency by about 10% in the BIOS setup to get the machine stable. I assume the problem is actually the memory. Couldn't the following be of help here? options DISABLE_PSE options DISABLE_PG_G Mark ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Random signals in {build,install}world recently?
On Mon, 20 Oct 2003, Mark Santcroos wrote: MSOn Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 10:27:38AM +0200, Harti Brandt wrote: MS On Mon, 20 Oct 2003, Vallo Kallaste wrote: MS MS VKHi MS VK MS VKIt seems to be a recent problem. The hardware is OK, both Windows XP MS VK(which I use very seldom) and Gentoo Linux do not exhibit any MS VKproblems. MS VKBasically one will get random signals as I have got in build- and MS VKinstallworld. It's impossible to complete make -j2 buildworld on my MS VKmachine, but sometimes non-parallel buildworld will do, only to die MS VKlater in installworld. MS VKThis is on two-processor AMD 2400+ MP system, ASUS A7M-266D mobo and MS VK1GB ECC memory, ATA disks and CD/RW-DVD only. 4BSD scheduler if it MS VKmatters. MS MS I have the same MB just with 1800+ processors. I had to reduce the CPU MS frequency by about 10% in the BIOS setup to get the machine stable. I MS assume the problem is actually the memory. MS MSCouldn't the following be of help here? MS MSoptions DISABLE_PSE MSoptions DISABLE_PG_G Is the processor bug that these options seem to circumvent dependend on the actual operating frequency of the processor? harti -- harti brandt, http://www.fokus.fraunhofer.de/research/cc/cats/employees/hartmut.brandt/private [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Random signals in {build,install}world recently?
On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 03:29:04PM +0200, Harti Brandt wrote: MS I have the same MB just with 1800+ processors. I had to reduce the CPU MS frequency by about 10% in the BIOS setup to get the machine stable. I MS assume the problem is actually the memory. MS MSCouldn't the following be of help here? MS MSoptions DISABLE_PSE MSoptions DISABLE_PG_G Is the processor bug that these options seem to circumvent dependend on the actual operating frequency of the processor? That won't surprise me, as afaik it's a timing thing. Note that due to all vagueness around this issue I could be wrong, but it's worth a try I guess. Mark ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Random signals in {build,install}world recently?
On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 10:27:38AM +0200, Harti Brandt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: VKIt seems to be a recent problem. The hardware is OK, both Windows XP VK(which I use very seldom) and Gentoo Linux do not exhibit any VKproblems. VKBasically one will get random signals as I have got in build- and VKinstallworld. It's impossible to complete make -j2 buildworld on my VKmachine, but sometimes non-parallel buildworld will do, only to die VKlater in installworld. VKThis is on two-processor AMD 2400+ MP system, ASUS A7M-266D mobo and VK1GB ECC memory, ATA disks and CD/RW-DVD only. 4BSD scheduler if it VKmatters. I have the same MB just with 1800+ processors. I had to reduce the CPU frequency by about 10% in the BIOS setup to get the machine stable. I assume the problem is actually the memory. I'm in doubt in this matter, because it's been absolutely stable so far and is as stable as before under Linux and XP. Also, my problems very much coincidence with some list traffic about the same problem, follow the thread: Subject: Seeing system-lockups on recent current Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I also managed to panic the system after repeated attempts to get through the installworld (which all failed). The panic string is panic: pmap_enter: attempted pmap_enter on 4MB page and is also described by the message: Subject: panic: pmap_enter: attempted pmap_enter on 4MB page Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have debug kernel, but the system locked up after the message and I had to drive home and reset the system. All those problematic systems seem to be AMD based. -- Vallo Kallaste ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Random signals in {build,install}world recently?
On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 03:20:56PM +0200, Mark Santcroos wrote: On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 10:27:38AM +0200, Harti Brandt wrote: On Mon, 20 Oct 2003, Vallo Kallaste wrote: VKHi VK VKIt seems to be a recent problem. The hardware is OK, both Windows XP VK(which I use very seldom) and Gentoo Linux do not exhibit any VKproblems. VKBasically one will get random signals as I have got in build- and VKinstallworld. It's impossible to complete make -j2 buildworld on my VKmachine, but sometimes non-parallel buildworld will do, only to die VKlater in installworld. VKThis is on two-processor AMD 2400+ MP system, ASUS A7M-266D mobo and VK1GB ECC memory, ATA disks and CD/RW-DVD only. 4BSD scheduler if it VKmatters. I have the same MB just with 1800+ processors. I had to reduce the CPU frequency by about 10% in the BIOS setup to get the machine stable. I assume the problem is actually the memory. Couldn't the following be of help here? options DISABLE_PSE options DISABLE_PG_G I don't think so. I tried that on my A7M266D with no effect. I believe something in recent pmap code doesn't like this mobo, or maybe dual athlons in general. I can run RELENG_5_1 rock solid, and -current from 9/24/03 rock solid, but -current from 10/3 or later gets random sigs and eventually panics. I have scsi disks so it's not ata. -- Barney Wolff http://www.databus.com/bwresume.pdf I'm available by contract or FT, in the NYC metro area or via the 'Net. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Random signals in {build,install}world recently?
On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 10:50:02AM -0400, Barney Wolff wrote: On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 03:20:56PM +0200, Mark Santcroos wrote: On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 10:27:38AM +0200, Harti Brandt wrote: On Mon, 20 Oct 2003, Vallo Kallaste wrote: VKHi VK VKIt seems to be a recent problem. The hardware is OK, both Windows XP VK(which I use very seldom) and Gentoo Linux do not exhibit any VKproblems. VKBasically one will get random signals as I have got in build- and VKinstallworld. It's impossible to complete make -j2 buildworld on my VKmachine, but sometimes non-parallel buildworld will do, only to die VKlater in installworld. VKThis is on two-processor AMD 2400+ MP system, ASUS A7M-266D mobo and VK1GB ECC memory, ATA disks and CD/RW-DVD only. 4BSD scheduler if it VKmatters. I have the same MB just with 1800+ processors. I had to reduce the CPU frequency by about 10% in the BIOS setup to get the machine stable. I assume the problem is actually the memory. Couldn't the following be of help here? options DISABLE_PSE options DISABLE_PG_G I don't think so. I tried that on my A7M266D with no effect. I believe something in recent pmap code doesn't like this mobo, or maybe dual athlons in general. I can run RELENG_5_1 rock solid, and -current from 9/24/03 rock solid, but -current from 10/3 or later gets random sigs and eventually panics. I have scsi disks so it's not ata. I have the same experiences. Also AMD A7M-266D with two 1800+ Athlons here. Used to work fine, but got random signals with my latest builds. - Christian -- Christian Brueffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG Key: http://people.freebsd.org/~brueffer/brueffer.key.asc GPG Fingerprint: A5C8 2099 19FF AACA F41B B29B 6C76 178C A0ED 982D pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Random signals in {build,install}world recently?
On Mon, 20 Oct 2003, Christian Brueffer wrote: CBOn Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 10:50:02AM -0400, Barney Wolff wrote: CB On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 03:20:56PM +0200, Mark Santcroos wrote: CB On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 10:27:38AM +0200, Harti Brandt wrote: CB On Mon, 20 Oct 2003, Vallo Kallaste wrote: CB CB VKHi CB VK CB VKIt seems to be a recent problem. The hardware is OK, both Windows XP CB VK(which I use very seldom) and Gentoo Linux do not exhibit any CB VKproblems. CB VKBasically one will get random signals as I have got in build- and CB VKinstallworld. It's impossible to complete make -j2 buildworld on my CB VKmachine, but sometimes non-parallel buildworld will do, only to die CB VKlater in installworld. CB VKThis is on two-processor AMD 2400+ MP system, ASUS A7M-266D mobo and CB VK1GB ECC memory, ATA disks and CD/RW-DVD only. 4BSD scheduler if it CB VKmatters. CB CB I have the same MB just with 1800+ processors. I had to reduce the CPU CB frequency by about 10% in the BIOS setup to get the machine stable. I CB assume the problem is actually the memory. CB CB Couldn't the following be of help here? CB CB options DISABLE_PSE CB options DISABLE_PG_G CB CB I don't think so. I tried that on my A7M266D with no effect. I believe CB something in recent pmap code doesn't like this mobo, or maybe dual CB athlons in general. I can run RELENG_5_1 rock solid, and -current from CB 9/24/03 rock solid, but -current from 10/3 or later gets random sigs CB and eventually panics. I have scsi disks so it's not ata. CB CB CBI have the same experiences. Also AMD A7M-266D with two 1800+ Athlons here. CBUsed to work fine, but got random signals with my latest builds. I have no problems with the -current, but, as I've said, I have tuned speed down. If I remember correctly they running slower than their nominal speed. Dmesg shows 1380.01MHz, although they're 1800+. This is tuneable in the BIOS. harti -- harti brandt, http://www.fokus.fraunhofer.de/research/cc/cats/employees/hartmut.brandt/private [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Random signals in {build,install}world recently?
On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 05:08:26PM +0200, Christian Brueffer wrote: On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 10:50:02AM -0400, Barney Wolff wrote: On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 03:20:56PM +0200, Mark Santcroos wrote: On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 10:27:38AM +0200, Harti Brandt wrote: On Mon, 20 Oct 2003, Vallo Kallaste wrote: VKHi VK VKIt seems to be a recent problem. The hardware is OK, both Windows XP VK(which I use very seldom) and Gentoo Linux do not exhibit any VKproblems. VKBasically one will get random signals as I have got in build- and VKinstallworld. It's impossible to complete make -j2 buildworld on my VKmachine, but sometimes non-parallel buildworld will do, only to die VKlater in installworld. VKThis is on two-processor AMD 2400+ MP system, ASUS A7M-266D mobo and VK1GB ECC memory, ATA disks and CD/RW-DVD only. 4BSD scheduler if it VKmatters. I have the same MB just with 1800+ processors. I had to reduce the CPU frequency by about 10% in the BIOS setup to get the machine stable. I assume the problem is actually the memory. Couldn't the following be of help here? options DISABLE_PSE options DISABLE_PG_G I don't think so. I tried that on my A7M266D with no effect. I believe something in recent pmap code doesn't like this mobo, or maybe dual athlons in general. I can run RELENG_5_1 rock solid, and -current from 9/24/03 rock solid, but -current from 10/3 or later gets random sigs and eventually panics. I have scsi disks so it's not ata. I have the same experiences. Also AMD A7M-266D with two 1800+ Athlons here. Used to work fine, but got random signals with my latest builds. Here, too. However, on a Tyan Thunder K7 with MP 1200 and a Tyan Tiger MPX with MP 1600+. Additionally to random signals I also get ICEs from GCC at random places and freezes with `make -jX buildworld` but no panics. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
