Laptops and sc0/vt0 consoles

2000-11-22 Thread Steve Horan

Hi,

Apologies upfront if anything I ask/say has already been covered, I'm
somwhat limited in my resources at present.

In my past experience, FreeBSD hasn't agreed very well with IBM
thinkpad laptops, unless you were using the vt0 console driver.

This makes me ask a couple of questions:

1) Does vt0 work for everything? Or only laptops? (my understanding
   is that it works for "everything"
2) If 1) is true, why doesn't the kernel on install floppies/cd's use
   vt0 instead of sc0.

I haven't been able to test with anything post 3.4, so again,
apologies if sc0 has been fixed to work with thinkpads etc.

Just thought this could be worth raising, would be curious of peoples
thoughts.

Regards,

sjh.



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Re: Laptops and sc0/vt0 consoles

2000-11-22 Thread Nate Williams

 
 Apologies upfront if anything I ask/say has already been covered, I'm
 somwhat limited in my resources at present.
 
 In my past experience, FreeBSD hasn't agreed very well with IBM
 thinkpad laptops, unless you were using the vt0 console driver.

This is *VERY* old information.  When Pentium's were introduced
(755/560) series, it has no longer been a necessity.

The old 486 laptops need vt0, but anything newer works fine with sc0.

(I speak from experience, having had an IBM laptop for 7-8 years, and
being responsible for writing or integrating the code in FreeBSD to
support IBM Thinkpads.)

I'm also typing on a ThinkPad right now, which is my 'main' platform,
and it's doing fine with syscons, as have my previous 3 ThinkPads.



Nate


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Re: Laptops and sc0/vt0 consoles

2000-11-22 Thread Boris Popov

On Wed, 22 Nov 2000, Nate Williams wrote:

  In my past experience, FreeBSD hasn't agreed very well with IBM
  thinkpad laptops, unless you were using the vt0 console driver.
 
 This is *VERY* old information.  When Pentium's were introduced
 (755/560) series, it has no longer been a necessity.
 
 The old 486 laptops need vt0, but anything newer works fine with sc0.

Hmm, then I'm the lucky one :). There is an old ThinkPad 340
(486/4MB/120MB) which runs heavily trimmed down preSMPNG -current with sc
driver. The only caveat is that one should specify a flag which disables
keyboard reset, because without it machine will silently reboot. Besides
that this ThinkPad works as gateway (even with PCMCIA ethernet card)
without any problems.

--
Boris Popov
http://www.butya.kz/~bp/



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