Re: why 'The legacy aout build' was removed from current ?

1999-12-09 Thread Motoyuki Konno
Hi, YAMAMOTO Shigeru [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: In a log of @src/Makefile, revision 1.230, o The legacy aout build has been removed. Why 'The legacy aout build' was removed from current? Are we now living in the TRUE ELF world? I also wonder why a.out support was removed from -current.

Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!

1999-12-09 Thread Soren Schmidt
It seems Blaz Zupan wrote: On Wed, 8 Dec 1999, Christopher Masto wrote: I fully agree that these things are neccessary and good. I just think we need avoid jumping the gun on removing the old code, when some people still need it to boot their machines. Actually I completely disagree.

Re: boot stops after Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s2a

1999-12-09 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
Kelvin Farmer wrote: Problem: Computer _sometimes_ stops after the "Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s2a" line. Running Current, built world yesterday. (Problem appeared fairly recently (as in ~2 weeks?, but didn't have ddb in previous kernel) dmesg: [...] ad0: QUANTUM FIREBALL

Re: boot stops after Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s2a

1999-12-09 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
Maxim Sobolev wrote: Kelvin Farmer wrote: Problem: Computer _sometimes_ stops after the "Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s2a" line. Running Current, built world yesterday. (Problem appeared fairly recently (as in ~2 weeks?, but didn't have ddb in previous kernel) I've also observed

Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!

1999-12-09 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
Julian Elischer wrote: please do not remove it.. just make it non-default. Retire it to LINT if you must, but I'd also like to see it around until the last release on RELENG_3. -- Daniel C. Sobral(8-DCS) who is as social as a wampas [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL

Sound card support

1999-12-09 Thread Donn Miller
[subject changes and thread hijacked] On Thu, 9 Dec 1999, Motoyuki Konno wrote: Please see Netscape plugin port (ports/www/flashplugin) to find out why we still have to need a.out support. Wow -- there's a flash plugin for Netscape? That's what I needed for a couple of web sites. Also, I

Re: why 'The legacy aout build' was removed from current ?

1999-12-09 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On Thu, 09 Dec 1999 17:00:50 +0900, Motoyuki Konno wrote: I think we don't need "a.out world" any more, but a.out support (a.out lib/shared lib, etc.) is still needed. Some commercial programs such as Netscape are in a.out only, so we still have to make a.out binaries. Are you sure? Any

Re: Cleaning house on /usr/src/*

1999-12-09 Thread Marcel Moolenaar
John Polstra wrote: When you change the tag (e.g., go from -stable to -current or vice versa), it's a special case. Thanks, I'll remember that. -- Marcel Moolenaarmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] SCC Internetworking Databases http://www.scc.nl/ The FreeBSD

which is right? 'controller pcic0 at isa?' or 'device pcic0 at isa?'?

1999-12-09 Thread YAMAMOTO Shigeru
I wonder about configuration for pcic in -current. In GENERIC, '#device pcic0 at isa?' In LINT and PCCARD, 'controller pcic0 at isa?' Which is right? Thanks, --- YAMAMOTO ShigeruInternet Initiative Japan Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network

make release broken

1999-12-09 Thread John Hay
Hi, Make release in a -current cvsuped just now broke. It looks like the aout directory is not there. - === libtacplus sh /usr/src/tools/install.sh -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 /usr/src/lib/libtacplus/taclib.h /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include sh /usr/src/tools/install.sh -c -o root -g

Re: boot stops after Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s2a

1999-12-09 Thread Vallo Kallaste
On Thu, Dec 09, 1999 at 08:39:46AM +0600, Boris Popov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Problem: Computer _sometimes_ stops after the "Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s2a" line. Running Current, built world yesterday. (Problem appeared fairly recently (as in ~2 weeks?, but didn't have ddb in

MCA support

1999-12-09 Thread Donn Miller
Just wondering how far along MCA support is. I tried booting up a kern.flp from the latest snapshot circa dec. 7. and I got a "Read error" during boot, which halted the machine. My machine was an IBM PS/2 model 77s. I'd like to make an mca picobsd release as well. -- - Donn To Unsubscribe:

Re: boot stops after Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s2a

1999-12-09 Thread Soren Schmidt
It seems Vallo Kallaste wrote: On Thu, Dec 09, 1999 at 08:39:46AM +0600, Boris Popov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Problem: Computer _sometimes_ stops after the "Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s2a" line. Running Current, built world yesterday. (Problem appeared fairly recently (as in ~2

Re: why 'The legacy aout build' was removed from current ?

1999-12-09 Thread Marcel Moolenaar
YAMAMOTO Shigeru wrote: In a log of @src/Makefile, revision 1.230, o The legacy aout build has been removed. Why 'The legacy aout build' was removed from current? There's no point in building legacy a.out stuff from -current sources. The result has nothing to do with legacy but only

Re: AWE64 problems

1999-12-09 Thread Frank Nobis
On Thu, Dec 09, 1999 at 12:25:33PM +0900, Seigo Tanimura wrote: [snipped some part] On Tue, 7 Dec 1999 23:00:02 +0100 (MET), Thomas Schuerger [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: --- sbc.c.orig Mon Dec 6 19:26:31 1999 +++ sbc.c Tue Dec 7 22:15:25 1999 @@ -110,7 +110,7

Re: OHCI weirdness?

1999-12-09 Thread nick.hibma
I've seen this problem under stress, not normally during boot. Time permitting I will have a look into this next week. Probably a race condition somewhere. Could you tell me whether the panic appears after a lengthy wait or is it directly related to a an event like plugging in a device or

Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!

1999-12-09 Thread Alexander Leidinger
On 8 Dec, Soren Schmidt wrote: Søren: I didn´t want to flame you, I only want to convince Paul-Henning to wait until you have time to fix those bugs. Welcome to the real world, I've promised to look at this and I will, but a day has only so many hours. I asumed this, and because of this

Re: make release broken

1999-12-09 Thread Marcel Moolenaar
John Hay wrote: Make release in a -current cvsuped just now broke. It looks like the aout directory is not there. Fixed. Thanks. I'm testing as well, so if anything comes up, let me know. -- Marcel Moolenaarmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] SCC Internetworking Databases

Re: why 'The legacy aout build' was removed from current ?

1999-12-09 Thread Marcel Moolenaar
Motoyuki Konno wrote: I also wonder why a.out support was removed from -current. a.out support has not been removed. We just don't do any legacy a.out building. I think we don't need "a.out world" any more, but a.out support (a.out lib/shared lib, etc.) is still needed. For this, the

Re: why 'The legacy aout build' was removed from current ?

1999-12-09 Thread Marcel Moolenaar
Motoyuki Konno wrote: I also wonder why a.out support was removed from -current. a.out support has not been removed. We just don't do any legacy a.out building. I think we don't need "a.out world" any more, but a.out support (a.out lib/shared lib, etc.) is still needed. For this, the

Re: boot stops after Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s2a

1999-12-09 Thread Vallo Kallaste
On Thu, Dec 09, 1999 at 11:16:10AM +0100, Soren Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Same here, one for about 10 reboots. Just sits quietly after "Mounting root from .." message. No other ill effects. SiS 530 chipset (5591), Seagate 6GB ATA-3 disk, new ata driver. I just searched a bit in

Re: which is right? 'controller pcic0 at isa?' or 'device pcic0 at isa?'?

1999-12-09 Thread Peter Wemm
YAMAMOTO Shigeru wrote: I wonder about configuration for pcic in -current. In GENERIC, '#device pcic0 at isa?' In LINT and PCCARD, 'controller pcic0 at isa?' "device" is just about the same as "controller", there is only one difference. If you use "controller", then config allows you to

Re: Using USB modules with an USB keyboard...

1999-12-09 Thread nick.hibma
I added your recommendations above to the kernel config file (TWELVE). It didn't work. As can be seen from the dmesg below, when the USB options are present in the kernel, ukbd0 is found. When USB KLDs are used, uhid0 seems to grab the keyboard. this is correct. Both

Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!

1999-12-09 Thread Thomas David Rivers
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Julian Elischer writes: : more importantly we lost the aha driver for a while. No we didn't. Well, the aha driver did loose support for the 1542A cards, but the aha driver was done so that cam could be committed to the tree. Maybe you are confusing things

Re: boot stops after

1999-12-09 Thread nick.hibma
Problem: Computer _sometimes_ stops after the "Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s2a" line. Running Current, built world yesterday. (Problem appeared fairly recently (as in ~2 weeks?, but didn't have ddb in previous kernel) I've also observed this problem and it

Re: Is there any way to use ATAPI CD-R?

1999-12-09 Thread Alexander Langer
Thus spake Andrey A. Chernov ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): As I see by quick check, CD-related soft from ports understand SCSI only. Does anybody use new ATAPI CD-R (acd)? If yes, please tell me how. Take a look at /usr/share/examples/atapi/burn* Alex -- I doubt, therefore I might be. To

Re: why 'The legacy aout build' was removed from current ?

1999-12-09 Thread Andrzej Bialecki
On Thu, 9 Dec 1999, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: Please see Netscape plugin port (ports/www/flashplugin) to find out why we still have to need a.out support. The port has nothing to do with building a legacy a.out world and consequently works fine (yes, I tested it :-) Not really. You have

Make world breakage (12/09/99)

1999-12-09 Thread Forrest Aldrich
Getting this from this morning's make world (after doing a make clean, just for good measure): -- Rebuilding dependencies -- cd /usr/src;

Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!

1999-12-09 Thread Daniel Eischen
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Christopher Masto writes: : Right now, I have no sound (not detected), no USB (panic on removal), : can't use my sio pccard, can't eject my ed pccard, my IDE drives are : taking hours to dump and fsck, and my TV card is missing every other : line if I try to use

Re: why 'The legacy aout build' was removed from current ?

1999-12-09 Thread Marcel Moolenaar
Andrzej Bialecki wrote: On Thu, 9 Dec 1999, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: Please see Netscape plugin port (ports/www/flashplugin) to find out why we still have to need a.out support. The port has nothing to do with building a legacy a.out world and consequently works fine (yes, I

Re: Make world breakage (12/09/99)

1999-12-09 Thread Marcel Moolenaar
Forrest Aldrich wrote: Getting this from this morning's make world (after doing a make clean, just for good measure): re-cvsup. The problem should be fixed already. -- Marcel Moolenaarmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] SCC Internetworking Databases

Re: why 'The legacy aout build' was removed from current ?

1999-12-09 Thread Andrzej Bialecki
On Thu, 9 Dec 1999, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: Andrzej Bialecki wrote: On Thu, 9 Dec 1999, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: Please see Netscape plugin port (ports/www/flashplugin) to find out why we still have to need a.out support. The port has nothing to do with building a legacy

Re: why 'The legacy aout build' was removed from current ?

1999-12-09 Thread Marcel Moolenaar
Andrzej Bialecki wrote: 1. extract /usr/src/lib (distribution files: src/slib.??) 2. cd /usr/src/lib/csu/i386 3. make depend 4. make OBJFORMAT=aout clean all install True. But this adds a dependency for this port on the src/lib tree. I was thinking about average people that have

Re: Reaping fortran cruft

1999-12-09 Thread M. L. Dodson
Steve Kargl writes: Kris Kennaway wrote: On Wed, 8 Dec 1999, Steve Kargl wrote: I was going to fix fsplit. Yes, I program in Fortran (note the proper spelling of Fortran). No, I don't use fsplit. A rewrite is certainly desperately needed :) We might also want to

Fallback paths (was: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!)

1999-12-09 Thread Greg Lehey
On Wednesday, 8 December 1999 at 21:00:36 +0100, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Kris Ken naway writes: On Wed, 8 Dec 1999, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: Update your /etc/fstab (use /dev/ad* instead of /dev/wd* or /dev/rwd* Can't we keep the same device

Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!

1999-12-09 Thread Greg Lehey
On Wednesday, 8 December 1999 at 20:23:24 +0100, Brad Knowles wrote: At 10:56 AM -0800 1999/12/8, Mike Smith wrote: The right attitude to be taking now is "here is where the ata drivers still fall down" or "here are patches to them to replace this functionality". Think about the

Continuity (was: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!)

1999-12-09 Thread Greg Lehey
On Wednesday, 8 December 1999 at 12:52:37 -0800, Mike Smith wrote: On Wed, Dec 08, 1999 at 10:56:24AM -0800, Mike Smith wrote: You shouldn't remove a function until it has been properly replaced. A very simple concept some people seem to have trouble grasping. Actually, that's not at all

Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!

1999-12-09 Thread Greg Lehey
On Wednesday, 8 December 1999 at 15:23:49 -0800, Jonathan M. Bresler wrote: [snip] We gained quite a bit from it, but let's not rewrite history. I remember quite clearly that there was a very popular Adaptec SCSI controller missing when the switch to CAM was made, and a lot of [snip]

Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!

1999-12-09 Thread Greg Lehey
On Wednesday, 8 December 1999 at 17:09:39 +0100, Soren Schmidt wrote: It seems Alexander Leidinger wrote: It isn´t only a matter of providing feedback... the maintainer also has to work on it. Yeah, right... I offered feedback in every mail regarding my problem with ata msdos-ZIPs

Progress or procedure? (was: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!)

1999-12-09 Thread Greg Lehey
On Wednesday, 8 December 1999 at 22:31:22 +0100, Soren Schmidt wrote: It seems Christopher Masto wrote: On Wed, Dec 08, 1999 at 10:56:24AM -0800, Mike Smith wrote: You shouldn't remove a function until it has been properly replaced. A very simple concept some people seem to have trouble

Breaking DMA support for multiple chipsets? (was: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!)

1999-12-09 Thread Greg Lehey
On Wednesday, 8 December 1999 at 15:02:37 +0100, Soren Schmidt wrote: It seems Richard Seaman, Jr. wrote: On Wed, Dec 08, 1999 at 12:55:35PM +0100, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In a few days time the wd driver will be retired from FreeBSDs i386 architecture. Since the ata driver does not

pccard sio problems (Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!)

1999-12-09 Thread D. Rock
Zitiere Daniel Eischen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Christopher Masto writes: : Right now, I have no sound (not detected), no USB (panic on removal), : can\\\'t use my sio pccard, can\\\'t eject my ed pccard, my IDE drives are : taking

Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!

1999-12-09 Thread Alexander Leidinger
On 9 Dec, Maxim Sobolev wrote: Excuse me for possible off-topic, but I have what is seems for me fresh idea about this question. Why do not remove from wd driver support for chipsets already implemented/tested in ata driver? Thus both clans would satisfied i.e. users with unsupported by ata

Re: Breaking DMA support for multiple chipsets? (was: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!)

1999-12-09 Thread Soren Schmidt
It seems Greg Lehey wrote: OK, you asked for it, following is a patch to support the sis 5591 chipset. Remember this is done blindfolded, I have no HW to test on, but you guys do :) Let me know what happens... OK. Let's defer removing wd until we know that ata DMA works on these

Re: Fallback paths (was: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!)

1999-12-09 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Greg Lehey writes: The fallback path is not eliminated, and may never be, but it may become rather uncomfortable to linger on it longer than you absolutely need to. Would you care to expand on that statement? Apart from the fsck/root/reload issue (for which

Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!

1999-12-09 Thread Maxim Sobolev
Alexander Leidinger wrote: On 9 Dec, Maxim Sobolev wrote: Excuse me for possible off-topic, but I have what is seems for me fresh idea about this question. Why do not remove from wd driver support for chipsets already implemented/tested in ata driver? Thus both clans would satisfied

Re: Breaking DMA support for multiple chipsets? (was: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!)

1999-12-09 Thread Richard Seaman Jr.
On Thu, Dec 09, 1999 at 04:03:58PM +0100, Soren Schmidt wrote: It seems Greg Lehey wrote: OK, you asked for it, following is a patch to support the sis 5591 chipset. Remember this is done blindfolded, I have no HW to test on, but you guys do :) Let me know what happens... OK.

Re: MCA support

1999-12-09 Thread Matthew N. Dodd
On Thu, 9 Dec 1999, Donn Miller wrote: Just wondering how far along MCA support is. I tried booting up a kern.flp from the latest snapshot circa dec. 7. and I got a "Read error" during boot, which halted the machine. My machine was an IBM PS/2 model 77s. MCA support isn't in GENERIC and

Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!

1999-12-09 Thread Soren Schmidt
It seems Maxim Sobolev wrote: There also exist cases where the chipset is supported but a particular functionality isn_t supported yet (in my case it_s the possibility to access MS-DOS formated ZIP-disks, harddisk access works well, and I_m not the only one with this problem (not counting

Re: Breaking DMA support for multiple chipsets? (was: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!)

1999-12-09 Thread Soren Schmidt
It seems Richard Seaman Jr. wrote: It already being tested, and it works, but at the same tike I found out that the code in the old driver for the sis is schizofrenic, it has one way of setting things up, and another way of reporting how it is set :(, that way it is difficult to

Re: Breaking DMA support for multiple chipsets? (was: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!)

1999-12-09 Thread Soren Schmidt
It seems Greg Lehey wrote: I think the old wd code was broken on reporting. The reporting was changed from the original submission, when it was committed. Yep, but it does mean that people _belive_ they are running UDMA where in fact they aren't, and now they blaim the ata driver

Modules and sysctl tree

1999-12-09 Thread Andrzej Bialecki
Hi, I'd like to know whether we reached some conclusions concerning the naming of sysctl variables created (or related to) KLDs. I know that Linux emulator creates "compat.linux". I don't know if any other module creates sysctls (well, except my SPY module.. :-). So, what is the current

Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!

1999-12-09 Thread Jonathan M. Bresler
[snip] Again, this is not accurate. I have a laptop with which, two months ago, I could use my LinkSys ethernet card, and I could use my digital then we need to get your LinkSys ethernet card support fixed. i am using one to write this message. mine is a LinkSys 10/100 PCMCIA

Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!

1999-12-09 Thread Jonathan M. Bresler
What version of -CURRENT are you using? Mine is a PCMPC200, and I haven't been able to get it to work for 6 weeks. PCMPC100 LinkSys PCMCIA 10/100 jmb Greg, yours is a card bus card. it is not supported at this time. i have one right next to me with the label melted.

Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!

1999-12-09 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brian Somers writes: : The aha driver broke somewhere between the 5th and 8th of this month. : Boot -v says ``aha0: status reg test failed ff''. Odd.. What kind of card do you have? Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe

Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!

1999-12-09 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wilko Bulte writes: : Not quite true: the esp driver for the alphas got lost. No attack on anyone, : just stating a fact. As did the sea and uha drivers. I had a fantacy that I'd have time to write one. However, I didn't... :-( Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail

Re: which is right? 'controller pcic0 at isa?' or 'device pcic0 at isa?'?

1999-12-09 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] YAMAMOTO Shigeru writes: : I wonder about configuration for pcic in -current. : : In GENERIC, '#device pcic0 at isa?' : In LINT and PCCARD, 'controller pcic0 at isa?' : : Which is right? LINT and PCCARD is right, although there is little difference between a

Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!

1999-12-09 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thomas David Rivers writes: : I lost support on my 1542B until I came up with a patch, which : I believe was incorporated into 3.3-R. Yes. I stand corrected. The B that I had worked w/o the patch, but many B's in the field didn't :-(. Warner To Unsubscribe:

Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!

1999-12-09 Thread Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai
-On [19991209 06:59], Warner Losh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: : P.S. I'm not trying to cut down Warner, but I do think we really need to : focus on regaining support for things we've lost in the past 6 months. I agree with this completely. The newbus excursion of the old code likely was a big

Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!

1999-12-09 Thread Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai
-On [19991209 12:00], Wilko Bulte ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: As Mike Smith wrote ... On Wed, Dec 08, 1999 at 10:56:24AM -0800, Mike Smith wrote: [there] were the SCSI drivers lost to CAM Actually, most of this is histrionics. CAM didn't lose us SCSI drivers; Not quite true: the esp

Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!

1999-12-09 Thread Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai
-On [19991209 16:03], Greg Lehey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Wednesday, 8 December 1999 at 20:23:24 +0100, Brad Knowles wrote: This is -CURRENT. It pains me to say it, but anyone trying to run anything "useful" on -CURRENT gets what they deserve. This is the only place wh

Flash (was: Re: Sound card support)

1999-12-09 Thread Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai
[again subject changes] -On [19991209 16:00], Donn Miller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Thu, 9 Dec 1999, Motoyuki Konno wrote: Please see Netscape plugin port (ports/www/flashplugin) to find out why we still have to need a.out support. Wow -- there's a flash plugin for Netscape? That's what

Re: Flash (was: Re: Sound card support)

1999-12-09 Thread Chris Piazza
On Thu, Dec 09, 1999 at 08:32:05PM +0100, Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote: [again subject changes] -On [19991209 16:00], Donn Miller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Thu, 9 Dec 1999, Motoyuki Konno wrote: Please see Netscape plugin port (ports/www/flashplugin) to find out why we still have

Re: Flash (was: Re: Sound card support)

1999-12-09 Thread Dmitrij Tejblum
Good luck using it under current. First site you hit quits netscape without reasons... ...until you drop out of X and see a __sh_getcontext IIRC warning on your console. If you can hack on the flash plugin's Makefile, try add -fno-exceptions there. Dima To Unsubscribe: send mail

Re: Is there any way to use ATAPI CD-R?

1999-12-09 Thread Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai
-On [19991209 06:58], Andrey A. Chernov ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Do you have a plan to merge ATAPI as part of SCSI (CAM) interface as NetBSD already does? It will solve problems with all SCSI-only CD* soft automatically. I thought this was the original idea back then when work started

Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!

1999-12-09 Thread Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai
-On [19991209 00:03], Bill Fumerola ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Wed, 8 Dec 1999, Soren Schmidt wrote: The same thing is about to apply to the woxware sound code, we have a new shiny system that works and is much better designed... For some definitions of "works".

Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!

1999-12-09 Thread Bill Fumerola
On Thu, 9 Dec 1999, Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote: For some definitions of "works". Low shot. If not for Cameron and Sanimura-san we would still be left dangling with the hopeless kludge of pcm vs VoxWare. They finally put their effort into something which all questions plus remarks on

Re: why 'The legacy aout build' was removed from current ?

1999-12-09 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
Motoyuki Konno wrote: I think we don't need "a.out world" any more, but a.out support (a.out lib/shared lib, etc.) is still needed. Some commercial programs such as Netscape are in a.out only, so we still have to make a.out binaries. Please see Netscape plugin port

Re: Is there any way to use ATAPI CD-R?

1999-12-09 Thread Christopher Masto
On Thu, Dec 09, 1999 at 06:38:46AM +0300, Andrey A. Chernov wrote: On Wed, Dec 08, 1999 at 09:34:24PM +0100, Soren Schmidt wrote: I use it every day, well almost :) Look in /usr/share/examples/atapi... Thanks! Do you have a plan to merge ATAPI as part of SCSI (CAM) interface as NetBSD

Re: why 'The legacy aout build' was removed from current ?

1999-12-09 Thread Chuck Robey
On Thu, 9 Dec 1999, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: Motoyuki Konno wrote: I think we don't need "a.out world" any more, but a.out support (a.out lib/shared lib, etc.) is still needed. Some commercial programs such as Netscape are in a.out only, so we still have to make a.out binaries.

Re: Is there any way to use ATAPI CD-R?

1999-12-09 Thread Soren Schmidt
It seems Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote: -On [19991209 06:58], Andrey A. Chernov ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Do you have a plan to merge ATAPI as part of SCSI (CAM) interface as NetBSD already does? It will solve problems with all SCSI-only CD* soft automatically. I thought

Re: Route table leaks

1999-12-09 Thread Joe Greco
The patch previously mentioned has completely fixed my problem, as far as I can tell. routetbl 13117K 25K 40960K936240 0 16,32,64,128,256 after a day of uptime. here's mine.. this is from a single homed machine, with a default route. it's also a IRC server

Re: Is there any way to use ATAPI CD-R?

1999-12-09 Thread Soren Schmidt
It seems Christopher Masto wrote: On Thu, Dec 09, 1999 at 06:38:46AM +0300, Andrey A. Chernov wrote: On Wed, Dec 08, 1999 at 09:34:24PM +0100, Soren Schmidt wrote: I use it every day, well almost :) Look in /usr/share/examples/atapi... Thanks! Do you have a plan to merge ATAPI as

Re: MCA support

1999-12-09 Thread Mike Smith
Just wondering how far along MCA support is. I tried booting up a kern.flp from the latest snapshot circa dec. 7. and I got a "Read error" during boot, which halted the machine. My machine was an IBM PS/2 model 77s. That's probably a bad floppy. You should at least get the kernel and

Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!

1999-12-09 Thread Mike Smith
On 9 Dec, Maxim Sobolev wrote: Excuse me for possible off-topic, but I have what is seems for me fresh idea about this question. Why do not remove from wd driver support for chipsets already implemented/tested in ata driver? Thus both clans would satisfied i.e. users with unsupported

Re: MCA support

1999-12-09 Thread Matthew N. Dodd
On Thu, 9 Dec 1999, Mike Smith wrote: My m77 has weird problems reading the floppy drive. I'm fairly sure this has everything to do with code in the loader/bootstrap that doesn't like the 2.88M drive. I used the 1.2M drive and it works great. I suspect a normal 1.44M drive would be

Re: MCA support

1999-12-09 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
My m77 has weird problems reading the floppy drive. I'm fairly sure this has everything to do with code in the loader/bootstrap that doesn't like the 2.88M drive. I used the 1.2M drive and it works great. I suspect a normal 1.44M drive would be good too. The loader just uses the

Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!

1999-12-09 Thread Mike Smith
I'm completely at a loss as to how the ata driver could be responsible for your inability to read these disks. I don't have a copy of your original problem report to hand, but since I have all the hardware here I'd appreciate it if you could be a little more explicit about your

Re: MCA support

1999-12-09 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
My m77 has weird problems reading the floppy drive. I'm fairly sure this has everything to do with code in the loader/bootstrap that doesn't like the 2.88M drive. I used the 1.2M drive and it works great. I suspect a normal 1.44M drive would be good too. The loader just uses the

Re: Route table leaks

1999-12-09 Thread Julian Elischer
so can it be committed? On Thu, 9 Dec 1999, Joe Greco wrote: The patch previously mentioned has completely fixed my problem, as far as I can tell. routetbl 13117K 25K 40960K936240 0 16,32,64,128,256 after a day of uptime. here's mine.. this is from a

PNPBIOS vs cs423B codec

1999-12-09 Thread joeo
Managed to get the sound stuff working on this thinkpad 600e, for anyone who cares... Had to update to the most recent bios, and made sure "quick boot" was disabled (hold down F1 while powering on to get into bios). I removed the "csa0" device from the kernel config, despite having a CS4610

Re: Route table leaks

1999-12-09 Thread Brad Knowles
At 3:00 PM -0800 1999/12/9, Julian Elischer wrote: so can it be committed? In -CURRENT, I would say that this could probably be committed, if John feels safe. I am not yet convinced that it should be committed to -STABLE, although things do look good so far. -- These are my

Re: Route table leaks

1999-12-09 Thread John Polstra
Brad Knowles wrote: In -CURRENT, I would say that this could probably be committed, if John feels safe. I am not yet convinced that it should be committed to -STABLE, although things do look good so far. Just to clarify, I committed it to -current already this morning. John To

Re: Modules and sysctl tree

1999-12-09 Thread Archie Cobbs
Andrzej Bialecki writes: I'd like to know whether we reached some conclusions concerning the naming of sysctl variables created (or related to) KLDs. I know that Linux emulator creates "compat.linux". I don't know if any other module creates sysctls (well, except my SPY module.. :-). So,

Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!

1999-12-09 Thread Wilko Bulte
As Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote ... -On [19991209 12:00], Wilko Bulte ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: As Mike Smith wrote ... On Wed, Dec 08, 1999 at 10:56:24AM -0800, Mike Smith wrote: [there] were the SCSI drivers lost to CAM Actually, most of this is histrionics. CAM didn't lose us

Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!

1999-12-09 Thread Wilko Bulte
As Warner Losh wrote ... In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brian Somers writes: : The aha driver broke somewhere between the 5th and 8th of this month. : Boot -v says ``aha0: status reg test failed ff''. Odd.. What kind of card do you have? Does it make a difference if you run boot without -v

Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!

1999-12-09 Thread Brian Somers
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brian Somers writes: : The aha driver broke somewhere between the 5th and 8th of this month. : Boot -v says ``aha0: status reg test failed ff''. Odd.. What kind of card do you have? aha0 at port 0x330-0x333 irq 11 drq 7 on isa0 aha0: AHA-1542CP FW Rev. D.0

OpenSSL update

1999-12-09 Thread Kris Kennaway
Due to time constraints (exams) I haven't been able to do much more towards the OpenSSL build infrastructure (specifically, jumping through the requisite hoops for US stupidity). I have it building fine, although compiling without RSA seems broken in openssl 0.9.4. Unfortunately, the openssl

Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!

1999-12-09 Thread Brian Somers
As Warner Losh wrote ... In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brian Somers writes: : The aha driver broke somewhere between the 5th and 8th of this month. : Boot -v says ``aha0: status reg test failed ff''. Odd.. What kind of card do you have? Does it make a difference if you run boot

Re: NO! Re: [PATCHES] Two fixes for lpd/lpc for review and test

1999-12-09 Thread Andre Albsmeier
On Thu, 09-Dec-1999 at 15:02:41 -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote: On Thu, 9 Dec 1999, Andre Albsmeier wrote: ... For better reference, here is the current patch: *** lpr.c.ORI Thu Dec 9 15:30:18 1999 --- lpr.c Thu Dec 9 15:30:35 1999 *** *** 370,375 ---

Re: Flash (was: Re: Sound card support)

1999-12-09 Thread Reinier Bezuidenhout
] -On [19991209 16:00], Donn Miller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Thu, 9 Dec 1999, Motoyuki Konno wrote: Please see Netscape plugin port (ports/www/flashplugin) to find out why we still have to need a.out support. Wow -- there's a flash plugin for Netscape? That's what I needed for a couple of web

Re: OpenSSL update

1999-12-09 Thread Brian Fundakowski Feldman
On Thu, 9 Dec 1999, Kris Kennaway wrote: Due to time constraints (exams) I haven't been able to do much more towards the OpenSSL build infrastructure (specifically, jumping through the requisite hoops for US stupidity). I have it building fine, although compiling without RSA seems broken in

Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!

1999-12-09 Thread Brian Fundakowski Feldman
On Wed, 8 Dec 1999, Soren Schmidt wrote: It seems Julian Elischer wrote: please do not remove it.. And why is that ?? There is no point in having done a new one then, and you guys have known I've been working on this for ages so this cannot come as a surprise to anybody... The same