Re: Cleanout & rebuild of /dev on -current

2000-10-19 Thread Doug Barton
On Wed, 18 Oct 2000, John W. De Boskey wrote: > Hi, > >Interesting question was posed to me which I can't > locate a straight answer to. > >We've been following -current for a few years now. > Over time, the devices in /dev have moved around, new > added, and old deleted (ie: we've ne

Re: Cleanout & rebuild of /dev on -current

2000-10-19 Thread Szilveszter Adam
Hello On Wed, Oct 18, 2000 at 09:50:52PM -0700, John W. De Boskey wrote: > Hi, > >Interesting question was posed to me which I can't > locate a straight answer to. > >We've been following -current for a few years now. > Over time, the devices in /dev have moved around, new > added, an

Re: Cleanout & rebuild of /dev on -current

2000-10-19 Thread Szilveszter Adam
On Thu, Oct 19, 2000 at 09:39:27AM +0200, Szilveszter Adam wrote: > >Given that the above can be automated on a live > > system, is this something that can/should be added > > to make installworld/world? (or atleast generate > > a report of changed devices, or devices that can > > nolong

I18N Progress, Plans, and Proposals

2000-10-19 Thread Michael C . Wu
At the BSDCon I18N BOF, we discussed several things that could/should happen with the future of I18N(internationalization) in FreeBSD. We would like some inputs and comments regarding the following: * Moving to message catalogue style error messages for the kernel and userland. (AIX style) Ea

Re: I18N Progress, Plans, and Proposals

2000-10-19 Thread Jing-Tang Keith Jang
On 10/19/00, Michael C . Wu wrote: > 3. Itojun mentioned that the CITRUS Japanese people will be able >to import the wchar* and libxpg4 changes soon. This is great! I believe many developers have spent too much unnecessary time dealing with wchar.h. Is there a timeline yet? BTW, are there

Re: kernel trap 12 with interrupts disabled

2000-10-19 Thread Valentin Chopov
I got the same with addition that the machine hangs:( Val On Wed, 18 Oct 2000, Manfred Antar wrote: > With current kernel I'm getting alot of : > kernel trap 12 with interrupts disabled > kernel trap 12 with interrupts disabled > kernel trap 12 with interrupts disabled > kernel trap 12 with int

sockstat causing OS lockups

2000-10-19 Thread Steve Ames
admin# sockstat | grep -v '*.*' close(fstat): The OS locked up after that. That's just not normal :) Could someone give me the quick and dirty on how I can provide additional details? This is on -CURRENT from 10/16. The hardware is: Dual P3-500Mhz, 512M RAM. The kernel file is: machine

I cannot make bktr.

2000-10-19 Thread Tomoaki SATO
Hi, all. I cannot make a kernel on FreeBSD-current. I get a following compile error message. /work/src/sys/modules/bktr/bktr/../../../dev/bktr/bktr_os.c: In function `bktr_detach': /work/src/sys/modules/bktr/bktr/../../../dev/bktr/bktr_os.c:484: `unit' undeclared (first use in this function) /wo

Re: I18N Progress, Plans, and Proposals

2000-10-19 Thread Terry Lambert
> * Moving to message catalogue style error messages for the kernel and > userland. (AIX style) Each time the system outputs an error > either from the kernel or userland, the error message is a > formatted alphanumerica string mapped to verbose error messages. > The error messages can b

Re: I18N Progress, Plans, and Proposals

2000-10-19 Thread Johan Granlund
On Thu, 19 Oct 2000, Michael C . Wu wrote: > At the BSDCon I18N BOF, we discussed several things that could/should > happen with the future of I18N(internationalization) in FreeBSD. > We would like some inputs and comments regarding the following: > > 2. Needing a graphics console to display

Re: I18N Progress, Plans, and Proposals

2000-10-19 Thread Michael C . Wu
On Thu, Oct 19, 2000 at 05:17:38PM +, Terry Lambert scribbled: | > * Moving to message catalogue style error messages for the kernel and | > userland. (AIX style) Each time the system outputs an error | > either from the kernel or userland, the error message is a | > formatted alphanum

I18N Paper URL

2000-10-19 Thread Michael C . Wu
http://www.ece.utexas.edu/~mwu/{presentation.ps,i18n.*} This is our paper presented at BSDCon. -- +--+ | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | http://peorth.iteration.net/~keichii | Yes, BSD is a conspiracy. | +--

current.freebsd.org problems?

2000-10-19 Thread Bill G
I have been trying to download a current snapshot from current.freebsd.org for the past few days without success. The error message I receive is 'Login incorrect' - I am doing a standard anonymous ftp, as always. Just wanted to make sure someone was aware of the problem, if not already. Thanks,

Re: I18N Progress, Plans, and Proposals

2000-10-19 Thread Motoyuki Konno
Hi, "Michael C . Wu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > 1. The future of sysinstall (or whatever should replace it) >The future installer/management utility should be >able to handle arbitrary character sets. >In other words, it should be able to display Chinese/Japanese/etc. >with user

Re: Cleanout & rebuild of /dev on -current

2000-10-19 Thread Brian Dean
On Wed, Oct 18, 2000 at 09:50:52PM -0700, John W. De Boskey wrote: >So, what would the correct sequence be to wipeout > /dev and recreate it? (create /dev in an alternate > location and compare the two...??) After mergemastering, and if /dev/MAKEDEV gets updated, I usually just do an 'sh MAKE

Re: I18N Progress, Plans, and Proposals

2000-10-19 Thread Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino
>3. Itojun mentioned that the CITRUS Japanese people will be able > to import the wchar* and libxpg4 changes soon. the code is there, but as i talked, we need more manpower for babysitting. cvs -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/anoncvs/citrus co -P xpg4dl itojun To Unsu

Re: I18N Progress, Plans, and Proposals

2000-10-19 Thread Jordan Hubbard
> The advantages are : > A. Easy bug reporting by users. (e.g. "I have error 2398423") > B. I18N error messages Let me just say, as someone who's done "escalation tech support" for major ISVs (the people who get called whenever front-line tech support is confronted with a "I have error

Re: sockstat causing OS lockups

2000-10-19 Thread Bosko Milekic
On Thu, 19 Oct 2000, Steve Ames wrote: > admin# sockstat | grep -v '*.*' > close(fstat): > > The OS locked up after that. I'm running -CURRENT from approximately 4 days ago and I am not noticing this. > That's just not normal :) Could someone give me the quick and dirty > on how I c

Re: sockstat causing OS lockups

2000-10-19 Thread Steve Ames
On Thu, Oct 19, 2000 at 06:15:23PM -0400, Bosko Milekic wrote: > On Thu, 19 Oct 2000, Steve Ames wrote: > > admin# sockstat | grep -v '*.*' > > close(fstat): > > > > The OS locked up after that. > > I'm running -CURRENT from approximately 4 days ago and I am not > noticing this. It does

-current GENERIC failure (bktr_os.c:484)

2000-10-19 Thread John W. De Boskey
Hi, I'm seeing the following failure with sources current as of 19:39pm EDT (Oct 19). Occurs when building the GENERIC kernel. cc -pipe -g -D_KERNEL -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extension

Re: I18N Progress, Plans, and Proposals

2000-10-19 Thread Tatsumi Hosokawa
At Thu, 19 Oct 2000 10:47:45 -0700, Motoyuki Konno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "Michael C . Wu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > 1. The future of sysinstall (or whatever should replace it) > >The future installer/management utility should be > >able to handle arbitrary character sets. > >

Re: sockstat causing OS lockups

2000-10-19 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
Steve Ames <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, Oct 19, 2000 at 06:15:23PM -0400, Bosko Milekic wrote: > > On Thu, 19 Oct 2000, Steve Ames wrote: > > I'm running -CURRENT from approximately 4 days ago and I am not > > noticing this. > It doesn't happen every time. But if you use the command

Re: current.freebsd.org problems?

2000-10-19 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
Bill G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I have been trying to download a current snapshot from > current.freebsd.org for the past few days without success. > The error message I receive is 'Login incorrect' - I am > doing a standard anonymous ftp, as always. Just wanted > to make sure someone was aw

Bug in tagged queuing patches causes read timeouts

2000-10-19 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
Fresh -CURRENT kernels render the system disk (IBM-DTTA-371010) unusable; even small amounts of disk activity cause repeated read timeouts. I've narrowed the breakage down: the latest known-good kernel is 09/18/2000, earliest known-bad is 09/20/2000, which means the September 19th tagged queuing c

Re: sockstat causing OS lockups

2000-10-19 Thread Steve Ames
On Fri, Oct 20, 2000 at 02:36:48AM +0200, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > Steve Ames <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Thu, Oct 19, 2000 at 06:15:23PM -0400, Bosko Milekic wrote: > > > On Thu, 19 Oct 2000, Steve Ames wrote: > > > I'm running -CURRENT from approximately 4 days ago and I am not > >

Re: sockstat causing OS lockups

2000-10-19 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
Steve Ames <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > *grin* I certainly haven't ruled out the possibility of crack induced > hysteria. I'm reading the kerneldebug handbook section and will get > some traces. Take a look at the "making the most of a kernel panic" entry in the FAQ (incidentially, that entry wa

new library: libisc

2000-10-19 Thread Archie Cobbs
FYI- Absent violent rejection, I'd like to add the ISC utility library to the FreeBSD build. If you're not familiar, check out the man pages /usr/src/contrib/bind/lib/isc/*.mdoc. There are several useful utilities in there. The main thing I'm interested in is the event library, but there is other

entropy reseeding is totally broken

2000-10-19 Thread Андрей Чернов
In very recent -current, my entropy file writted and readed sucessfully, but I got the same fortune quote again and again right after reboot! It means that anything writted to /dev/random not reseed it but _reset_ it to the same default state. -- Andrey A. Chernov http://ache.pp.ru/ To Unsubs

Re: current.freebsd.org problems?

2000-10-19 Thread Jordan Hubbard
I'll look into this tomorrow morning, thanks. > Bill G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I have been trying to download a current snapshot from > > current.freebsd.org for the past few days without success. > > The error message I receive is 'Login incorrect' - I am > > doing a standard anonymous f

Re: entropy reseeding is totally broken

2000-10-19 Thread Udo Schweigert
On Fri, Oct 20, 2000 at 08:48:46 +0400, Andrej Cernov wrote: > In very recent -current, my entropy file writted and readed sucessfully, > but I got the same fortune quote again and again right after reboot! > > It means that anything writted to /dev/random not reseed it but _reset_ it > to the sa

buildkernel breakage on Today's kernel

2000-10-19 Thread Makoto MATSUSHITA
../../dev/bktr/bktr_os.c: In function `bktr_detach': ../../dev/bktr/bktr_os.c:484: `unit' undeclared (first use in this function) ../../dev/bktr/bktr_os.c:484: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once ../../dev/bktr/bktr_os.c:484: for each function it appears in.) More logfile: http://

Re: current.freebsd.org problems?

2000-10-19 Thread Makoto MATSUSHITA
jkh> I'll look into this tomorrow morning, thanks. I'm very interested if current.jp.freebsd.org was hung up when "make release" procedure was running. current.jp.freebsd.org was hung up in these two days, when making a boot floppy (the hungup was occured *exactly* the same point). -- - Makoto

Re: entropy reseeding is totally broken

2000-10-19 Thread Андрей Чернов
On Fri, Oct 20, 2000 at 07:58:09AM +0200, Udo Schweigert wrote: > On Fri, Oct 20, 2000 at 08:48:46 +0400, Andrej Cernov wrote: > > In very recent -current, my entropy file writted and readed sucessfully, > > but I got the same fortune quote again and again right after reboot! > > > > It means tha

Re: entropy reseeding is totally broken

2000-10-19 Thread Андрей Чернов
On Fri, Oct 20, 2000 at 08:48:46AM +0400, áÎÄÒÅÊ þÅÒÎÏ× wrote: > In very recent -current, my entropy file writted and readed sucessfully, > but I got the same fortune quote again and again right after reboot! > > It means that anything writted to /dev/random not reseed it but _reset_ it > to the

Re: current.freebsd.org problems?

2000-10-19 Thread Masanori Kanaoka
From: Makoto MATSUSHITA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: current.freebsd.org problems? Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 15:30:30 +0900 $ I'm very interested if current.jp.freebsd.org was hung up when "make $ release" procedure was running. current.jp.freebsd.org was hung up in $ these two days, when making