Re: tar problems with --fast-read

2002-10-09 Thread Maxim Sobolev
Committed, thank you very much! -Maxim On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 11:49:12AM +1000, Tim Robbins wrote: On Tue, Oct 08, 2002 at 10:01:09AM -0700, Gordon Tetlow wrote: I was trying out the fast-read feature of tar and got the following: gtetlow@roark:~$ touch testa testb gtetlow@roark:~$

Re: [acpi-jp 1789] Re: ACPI video driver (for Dell Latitude C640)

2002-10-09 Thread Mark Santcroos
Hi Lars, On Tue, Oct 08, 2002 at 10:38:43AM -0700, Lars Eggert wrote: any news on this issue? I'm seeing the same problems with suspend on a Dell Latitude C600 with a ATI Mobility M3... The news is that I got reference docs from ATI that have all the info I need. It's now a mather of enough

Re: DDB sysctl function

2002-10-09 Thread Vladimir B.
÷ Wed, 09.10.2002, × 10:17, Bruce Evans ÎÁÐÉÓÁÌ: On Tue, 8 Oct 2002, John Baldwin wrote: On 08-Oct-2002 Vladimir B. Grebenschikov wrote: ÷ Tue, 08.10.2002, × 22:25, Maxime Henrion ÎÁÐÉÓÁÌ: - I'm not sure if using the context of the init process to do sysctl calls is the right way

Re: DDB sysctl function

2002-10-09 Thread Vladimir B.
÷ Wed, 09.10.2002, × 01:03, Vladimir B. Grebenschikov ÎÁÐÉÓÁÌ: ÷ Tue, 08.10.2002, × 22:25, Maxime Henrion ÎÁÐÉÓÁÌ: Vladimir B. Grebenschikov wrote: Hi Attached diff introduces new ddb interface - access to sysctl interface [...] Looks like this would be very useful. I

Re: My problems with GEOM

2002-10-09 Thread Bruce Evans
On Wed, 9 Oct 2002, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Seth Hieronymus writes: I think your recent commits have fixed my hang on boot with an empty ZIP-drive. Thank you. Cool. It still can't even mount root for my configurations. This is because it breaks

Re: My problems with GEOM

2002-10-09 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Bruce Evans writes: On Wed, 9 Oct 2002, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Seth Hieronymus writes: I think your recent commits have fixed my hang on boot with an empty ZIP-drive. Thank you. Cool. It still can't even mount root for my

Re: DDB sysctl function

2002-10-09 Thread Maxime Henrion
Vladimir B. Grebenschikov wrote: ? Wed, 09.10.2002, ? 01:03, Vladimir B. Grebenschikov ???: ? Tue, 08.10.2002, ? 22:25, Maxime Henrion ???: Vladimir B. Grebenschikov wrote: Hi Attached diff introduces new ddb interface - access to sysctl interface [...]

Re: DDB sysctl function

2002-10-09 Thread Maxime Henrion
Maxime Henrion wrote: [...] - There is a TOK_STRING_SIZE macro which defines the size of the the db_tok_string variable. Use it instead of declaring several 1k variables on the stack. It is not token buffers - it is buffers for sysctl data interchange, const 1024

Re: Changes to Kerberos daemon startup

2002-10-09 Thread Mark Murray
I have a patch at http://people.freebsd.org/~gordon/patches/kerberos.diff that changes the variables used for kerberos startup. I haven't had a chance to test these changes just yet, but I'd like peoples opinion on them. There will be a corresponding change in rc.d scripts that I have to

alpha tinderbox failure

2002-10-09 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
-- Rebuilding the temporary build tree -- stage 1: bootstrap tools -- stage 2: cleaning up the object tree

src/games bikeshed time.

2002-10-09 Thread Mark Murray
Hi The current flare-up over src/games/wargames reminds me that we are carrying a bunch of Really Old Stuff in usr/games/. Yes folks, its that time of the year. I ask myself, why are we wasting ``make world'' time and install bandwidth on 1970's-era games?. Some folks will answer tradition.

Re: src/games bikeshed time.

2002-10-09 Thread rob
Hi all, I agree keeping these traditional toys in the base system won't help in a better OS (instead it makes it a bit bigger and older), agreed that they are some sort of 'folklore' putting them in a port makes a good solution. mzl! Rob Evers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Technological progress has

Re: src/games bikeshed time.

2002-10-09 Thread Tim Robbins
On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 11:29:08AM +0100, Mark Murray wrote: What remains? All the games that dm(6) oversees. Things like adventure(6), trek(6), battlestar(6) and so on. These are good candidates for ports IMO. Folks may want to play them, but there is no point in wasting time and space on

Re: src/games bikeshed time.

2002-10-09 Thread Tony Finch
There's an open PR about factor(6) not working on 64bit arches; I'm preparing to import NetBSD's version which uses the OpenSSL bignum library. There are associated stylistic improvements to primes(6) -- they share a table of primes up to about 2^16. Tony. -- f.a.n.finch [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: sorry state of Xserver in 5.0

2002-10-09 Thread Maxim Sobolev
Maxim Sobolev wrote: Maxim Sobolev wrote: Maxim Sobolev wrote: Andrew Gallatin wrote: Maxim Sobolev writes: Between this, and the Type1 bezier font abort, the state of 5.0 on a desktop is very sorry indeed. My old alpha running -stable is far more

Re: src/games bikeshed time.

2002-10-09 Thread Mark Murray
I'd like to see these removed only if nobody is willing to maintain them. Check lines 70-75 of src/games/larn/main.c for an example of how out of touch they are with what's considered to be good practice (5 buffer overflows in 6 lines of code). Merging in NetBSD and/or OpenBSD's changes would

Re: My problems with GEOM

2002-10-09 Thread Bruce Evans
On Wed, 9 Oct 2002, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Bruce Evans writes: On Wed, 9 Oct 2002, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Seth Hieronymus writes: I think your recent commits have fixed my hang on boot with an empty ZIP-drive. Thank

Re: My problems with GEOM

2002-10-09 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Bruce Evans writes: All you have to do is edit your /etc/fstab. Not so. I would have to edit fstab back and forth to boot various kernels, and would also have to use devfs or MAKEDEV to get all the sliced devices created, and change boot loaders back and forth to

Re: DDB sysctl function

2002-10-09 Thread Bruce Evans
On Wed, 9 Oct 2002, Maxime Henrion wrote: What I meant in my previous mail is that you could malloc() these objects instead of putting them on the stack. Also, you don't need buffers that big since the size you need is bounded at max(sizeof(int), TOK_STRING_SIZE), which is likely to be

Re: DDB sysctl function

2002-10-09 Thread Maxime Henrion
Bruce Evans wrote: On Wed, 9 Oct 2002, Maxime Henrion wrote: What I meant in my previous mail is that you could malloc() these objects instead of putting them on the stack. Also, you don't need buffers that big since the size you need is bounded at max(sizeof(int), TOK_STRING_SIZE),

Re: alpha tinderbox failure

2002-10-09 Thread Maxime Henrion
Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: === vinum cc1: warnings being treated as errors /h/des/src/sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_snapshot.c: In function `ffs_snapshot': /h/des/src/sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_snapshot.c:531: warning: int format, different type arg (arg 2) *** Error code 1 Should be fixed now. Maxime To

Re: My problems with GEOM

2002-10-09 Thread Bruce Evans
On Wed, 9 Oct 2002, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Bruce Evans writes: All you have to do is edit your /etc/fstab. Not so. I would have to edit fstab back and forth to boot various kernels, and would also have to use devfs or MAKEDEV to get all the sliced

Re: DDB sysctl function

2002-10-09 Thread Bruce Evans
On Wed, 9 Oct 2002, Maxime Henrion wrote: Bruce Evans wrote: On Wed, 9 Oct 2002, Maxime Henrion wrote: What I meant in my previous mail is that you could malloc() these objects instead of putting them on the stack. Also, you don't need buffers that big since the size you need is

Re: src/games bikeshed time.

2002-10-09 Thread Stephen J. Roznowski
On 9 Oct, Tim Robbins wrote: On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 11:29:08AM +0100, Mark Murray wrote: What remains? All the games that dm(6) oversees. Things like adventure(6), trek(6), battlestar(6) and so on. These are good candidates for ports IMO. Folks may want to play them, but there is no

Re: src/games bikeshed time.

2002-10-09 Thread Mark Murray
There's an open PR about factor(6) not working on 64bit arches; I'm preparing to import NetBSD's version which uses the OpenSSL bignum library. There are associated stylistic improvements to primes(6) -- they share a table of primes up to about 2^16. Primes(6) is safe. This program has

Re: src/games bikeshed time.

2002-10-09 Thread Mark Murray
I've had a patch in the system (bin/12727) since 1999/07/20 that does just this for the NetBSD patches. I've tried a few times to get it committed. See the patch for details... This is good to have, but it doesn't change the fact that these games are 1970's technology. :-) How would it be

Re: i386 tinderbox failure

2002-10-09 Thread John Baldwin
On 09-Oct-2002 Bruce Evans wrote: On Tue, 8 Oct 2002, Peter Wemm wrote: David O'Brien wrote: On Tue, Oct 08, 2002 at 03:55:36PM -0400, John Baldwin wrote: Could you please just commit this on the vendor branch if it is the ... Doing this screws up diffs to vendor source as there

Re: src/games bikeshed time.

2002-10-09 Thread Stephen J. Roznowski
On 9 Oct, Mark Murray wrote: I've had a patch in the system (bin/12727) since 1999/07/20 that does just this for the NetBSD patches. I've tried a few times to get it committed. See the patch for details... This is good to have, but it doesn't change the fact that these games are 1970's

Re: src/games bikeshed time.

2002-10-09 Thread Mark Murray
This really doesn't matter to me (ports vice base). I was reacting to the rot of the code comments. I also don't have a (major) problem that this patch was never committed -- there are other more important things for the committers to work on. :-) Rot applies more to design, rather than

Re: src/games bikeshed time.

2002-10-09 Thread Stephen J. Roznowski
On 9 Oct, Mark Murray wrote: This really doesn't matter to me (ports vice base). I was reacting to the rot of the code comments. I also don't have a (major) problem that this patch was never committed -- there are other more important things for the committers to work on. :-) Rot applies

Re: src/games bikeshed time.

2002-10-09 Thread David O'Brien
On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 11:29:08AM +0100, Mark Murray wrote: I would like to make a port out of these and remove them from the base distribution. I think this is a fine idea. However, patch please so we know exactly what we are talking about. Some of the games are used in 'make world'. To

Re: sorry state of Xserver in 5.0

2002-10-09 Thread Alexander Leidinger
On Wed, 09 Oct 2002 14:27:45 +0300 Maxim Sobolev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SIGFPE crashes still happed even on 2-weeks old kernel, but they are much less frequent. I'll try to go back in time to 4-weeks old kernel to see if it helps. As a data point... I still get signal 6, even without type1

Re: src/games bikeshed time.

2002-10-09 Thread David O'Brien
On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 02:16:09PM +0100, Mark Murray wrote: I've had a patch in the system (bin/12727) since 1999/07/20 that does just this for the NetBSD patches. I've tried a few times to get it committed. See the patch for details... This is good to have, but it doesn't change the

Re: src/games bikeshed time.

2002-10-09 Thread David O'Brien
On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 09:47:12AM -0400, Stephen J. Roznowski wrote: On 9 Oct, Mark Murray wrote: I've had a patch in the system (bin/12727) since 1999/07/20 that does just this for the NetBSD patches. I've tried a few times to get it committed. See the patch for details... This is

Re: src/games bikeshed time.

2002-10-09 Thread Stephen J. Roznowski
On 9 Oct, David O'Brien wrote: On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 09:47:12AM -0400, Stephen J. Roznowski wrote: On 9 Oct, Mark Murray wrote: I've had a patch in the system (bin/12727) since 1999/07/20 that does just this for the NetBSD patches. I've tried a few times to get it committed. See the

Re: src/games bikeshed time.

2002-10-09 Thread Stephen J. Roznowski
On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 02:16:09PM +0100, Mark Murray wrote: I've had a patch in the system (bin/12727) since 1999/07/20 that does just this for the NetBSD patches. I've tried a few times to get it committed. See the patch for details... This is good to have, but it doesn't change

Re: src/games bikeshed time.

2002-10-09 Thread Mark Murray
I'll assume that dm would just be deleted as part of moving this to ports? Or would the games portion of ports be reconfigued to run under dm? I am planning on not using dm(6), yes. M -- o Mark Murray \_ O.\_Warning: this .sig is umop ap!sdn To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL

Re: DDB sysctl function

2002-10-09 Thread Vladimir B.
÷ Wed, 09.10.2002, × 16:23, Maxime Henrion ÎÁÐÉÓÁÌ: Bruce Evans wrote: On Wed, 9 Oct 2002, Maxime Henrion wrote: What I meant in my previous mail is that you could malloc() these objects instead of putting them on the stack. Also, you don't need buffers that big since the size

Re: src/games bikeshed time.

2002-10-09 Thread Mark Murray
I would recomend calling the port 44bsd-games and using the NetBSD repository as the distfile. NetBSD has even fixed bugs in wargames(6). Why wouldn't these be broken apart? Perhaps a meta-port? If you want to do that, go ahead. My plan is to move some _FreeBSD_ games into a port and

Re: src/games bikeshed time.

2002-10-09 Thread Mark Murray
On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 11:29:08AM +0100, Mark Murray wrote: I would like to make a port out of these and remove them from the base distribution. I think this is a fine idea. However, patch please so we know exactly what we are talking about. Some of the games are used in 'make world'.

Re: src/games bikeshed time.

2002-10-09 Thread David O'Brien
On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 04:09:58PM +0100, Mark Murray wrote: Index: Makefile.inc1 === RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/Makefile.inc1,v retrieving revision 1.304 diff -u -d -r1.304 Makefile.inc1 --- Makefile.inc1 17 Sep 2002

Re: alpha tinderbox failure

2002-10-09 Thread Andrew Gallatin
Jeff Roberson writes: On Tue, 8 Oct 2002, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: Makefile, line 4194: warning: duplicate script for target geom_bsd.o ignored cc1: warnings being treated as errors /h/des/src/sys/dev/advansys/adv_pci.c: In function `adv_pci_attach':

Re: src/games bikeshed time.

2002-10-09 Thread David O'Brien
On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 04:23:20PM +0100, Mark Murray wrote: --- Makefile.inc1 17 Sep 2002 01:48:47 - 1.304 +++ Makefile.inc1 8 Oct 2002 21:40:05 - @@ -601,10 +601,6 @@ # # build-tools: Build special purpose build tools # -.if exists(${.CURDIR}/games)

RE: src/games bikeshed time.

2002-10-09 Thread John Baldwin
On 09-Oct-2002 Mark Murray wrote: Hi The current flare-up over src/games/wargames reminds me that we are carrying a bunch of Really Old Stuff in usr/games/. Yes folks, its that time of the year. I ask myself, why are we wasting ``make world'' time and install bandwidth on 1970's-era

Re: src/games bikeshed time.

2002-10-09 Thread Jose M. Alcaide
On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 03:56:11PM +0100, Mark Murray wrote: If you want to do that, go ahead. My plan is to move some _FreeBSD_ games into a port and remove them from base. What do you think about moving fortune, primes, factor, grdc, pom, etc. to /usr/bin, and then removing /usr/games? JMA

Re: src/games bikeshed time.

2002-10-09 Thread Mark Murray
On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 03:56:11PM +0100, Mark Murray wrote: If you want to do that, go ahead. My plan is to move some _FreeBSD_ games into a port and remove them from base. What do you think about moving fortune, primes, factor, grdc, pom, etc. to /usr/bin, and then removing /usr/games?

Re: src/games bikeshed time.

2002-10-09 Thread Tony Finch
Below is my proposed patch to primes(6) and factor(6) which I plan to commit in one go since the changes are somewhat inter-dependent. Feedback is welcomed. I'm in the process of fixing the manual. Merge changes from NetBSD and perform some cleaning up. primes: const-correctness and removal

Re: src/games bikeshed time.

2002-10-09 Thread David O'Brien
On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 05:00:21PM +0100, Tony Finch wrote: Below is my proposed patch to primes(6) and factor(6) which I plan to commit in one go since the changes are somewhat inter-dependent. Feedback is welcomed. I'm in the process of fixing the manual. Merge changes from NetBSD and

i386 tinderbox failure

2002-10-09 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
-- Rebuilding the temporary build tree -- stage 1: bootstrap tools -- stage 2: cleaning up the object tree

Re: src/games bikeshed time.

2002-10-09 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 08:59:42PM +1000, Tim Robbins wrote: On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 11:29:08AM +0100, Mark Murray wrote: What remains? All the games that dm(6) oversees. Things like adventure(6), trek(6), battlestar(6) and so on. These are good candidates for ports IMO. Folks may want

Re: src/games bikeshed time.

2002-10-09 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 05:00:21PM +0100, Tony Finch wrote: +.if !defined(NO_OPENSSL) +CFLAGS+=-DHAVE_OPENSSL +LDADD+= -lcrypto +DPADD+= ${LIBCRYPTO} +.endif You also need to check that the crypto sources are installed. Kris msg44386/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: src/games bikeshed time.

2002-10-09 Thread Tony Finch
On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 10:08:24AM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 05:00:21PM +0100, Tony Finch wrote: +.if !defined(NO_OPENSSL) +CFLAGS+=-DHAVE_OPENSSL +LDADD+=-lcrypto +DPADD+=${LIBCRYPTO} +.endif You also need to check that the crypto sources are

Re: My problems with GEOM

2002-10-09 Thread Nate Lawson
On Wed, 9 Oct 2002, David O'Brien wrote: On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 07:47:06PM +1000, Bruce Evans wrote: It still can't even mount root for my configurations. This is because it breaks compatibility by dropping support for the devices on the first FreeBSD slice being named without a slice

Re: src/games bikeshed time.

2002-10-09 Thread Nate Lawson
On Wed, 9 Oct 2002, Jose M. Alcaide wrote: On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 03:56:11PM +0100, Mark Murray wrote: If you want to do that, go ahead. My plan is to move some _FreeBSD_ games into a port and remove them from base. What do you think about moving fortune, primes, factor, grdc, pom, etc.

Re: src/games bikeshed time.

2002-10-09 Thread Matthew Dillon
So, Mark, does all of this extracurricular activity mean that 4.7-RELEASE is done? Or are we still in freeze? -Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message

Re: alpha tinderbox failure

2002-10-09 Thread Nate Lawson
On Wed, 9 Oct 2002, Andrew Gallatin wrote: Jeff Roberson writes: On Tue, 8 Oct 2002, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: Makefile, line 4194: warning: duplicate script for target geom_bsd.o ignored cc1: warnings being treated as errors /h/des/src/sys/dev/advansys/adv_pci.c: In function

panic: Duplicate free of item 0xc2356000 from zone 0xc083a280(UMA Buckets)

2002-10-09 Thread Alex Zepeda
(kgdb) bt ... #9 0xc035c1a8 in calltrap () at /var/tmp//ccqYOobH.s:98 #10 0xc02302fb in panic (fmt=0x0) at ../../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:494 #11 0xc033603a in uma_dbg_free (zone=0xc083a280, slab=0xc2356fe0, item=0xc2356000) at ../../../vm/uma_dbg.c:273 #12 0xc03355a8 in uma_zfree_internal

Re: My problems with GEOM

2002-10-09 Thread Bruce Evans
On Wed, 9 Oct 2002, David O'Brien wrote: Also SCSI CDROM's are now only mountable as /dev/cd0, not /dev/cd0a as before. I wonder how many others got hit by that. Apparently not as many as got hit by the block number scaling bug. I guess most users only have atapi cdroms. This is a good

Re: src/games bikeshed time.

2002-10-09 Thread Terry Lambert
Mark Murray wrote: As fortune(6) has a strong maintainer and follower base, removing that would be premature. What remains? All the games that dm(6) oversees. Things like adventure(6), trek(6), battlestar(6) and so on. These are good candidates for ports IMO. Folks may want to play them,

Re: src/games bikeshed time.

2002-10-09 Thread Terry Lambert
Mark Murray wrote: I've had a patch in the system (bin/12727) since 1999/07/20 that does just this for the NetBSD patches. I've tried a few times to get it committed. See the patch for details... This is good to have, but it doesn't change the fact that these games are 1970's

Re: src/games bikeshed time.

2002-10-09 Thread Terry Lambert
David O'Brien wrote: On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 02:16:09PM +0100, Mark Murray wrote: How would it be for you if these patches became part of the games in the ports collection? (Somewhat like ports/net/freebsd-uucp?) I would recomend calling the port 44bsd-games and using the NetBSD

Re: src/games bikeshed time.

2002-10-09 Thread Terry Lambert
Mark Murray wrote: On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 03:56:11PM +0100, Mark Murray wrote: If you want to do that, go ahead. My plan is to move some _FreeBSD_ games into a port and remove them from base. What do you think about moving fortune, primes, factor, grdc, pom, etc. to /usr/bin, and

Re: My problems with GEOM

2002-10-09 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Nate Lawson wri tes: On Wed, 9 Oct 2002, David O'Brien wrote: On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 07:47:06PM +1000, Bruce Evans wrote: It still can't even mount root for my configurations. This is because it breaks compatibility by dropping support for the devices on the

Re: src/games bikeshed time.

2002-10-09 Thread Mark Murray
Mark Murray wrote: I've had a patch in the system (bin/12727) since 1999/07/20 that does just this for the NetBSD patches. I've tried a few times to get it committed. See the patch for details... This is good to have, but it doesn't change the fact that these games are 1970's

Re: My problems with GEOM

2002-10-09 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Bruce Evans writes: On Wed, 9 Oct 2002, David O'Brien wrote: Also SCSI CDROM's are now only mountable as /dev/cd0, not /dev/cd0a as before. I wonder how many others got hit by that. Apparently not as many as got hit by the block number scaling bug. I guess most

Re: src/games bikeshed time.

2002-10-09 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 06:27:37PM +0100, Tony Finch wrote: On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 10:08:24AM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 05:00:21PM +0100, Tony Finch wrote: +.if !defined(NO_OPENSSL) +CFLAGS+=-DHAVE_OPENSSL +LDADD+= -lcrypto +DPADD+= ${LIBCRYPTO}

Re: src/games bikeshed time.

2002-10-09 Thread Mark Murray
They do not have a strong maintainer and follower base, so they should be removed to ports, where they will continue to exist because they have such a strong maintainer and follower base that they will have their own FTP site from which the source will be maintained by third parties,

Re: src/games bikeshed time.

2002-10-09 Thread Nate Lawson
On Wed, 9 Oct 2002, Terry Lambert wrote: On tradition: I actually think the main reason for maintaining them is nostalgia; most of us who learned how to program on shared computing resources remember the games as one of the things that sparked our initial interest in the computers. People

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Re: src/games bikeshed time.

2002-10-09 Thread Chris Doherty
On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 08:28:13PM +0100, Mark Murray said: That said... rain is a neat display hack. It's at least as good as the ASCII art VGA library. I probably would not miss anything else, or anything that wasn't multiplayer, very much, if at all... it looks like an axeing may be

Re: src/games bikeshed time.

2002-10-09 Thread Mark Murray
Rain looks ridiculous on a VTY. Last time it looked ok was on a 9600 baud terminal. from the man page: The output of rain is modeled after the VAX/VMS program of the same name. To obtain the proper effect, either the terminal must be set for 9600 baud or the -d option

Re: src/games bikeshed time.

2002-10-09 Thread Terry Lambert
Mark Murray wrote: This is good to have, but it doesn't change the fact that these games are 1970's technology. :-) So's UNIX. 8-) 8-). Yes. But Unix is _used_. I have to admit that I use robots... 8-) 8-). -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe

Re: src/games bikeshed time.

2002-10-09 Thread Terry Lambert
Mark Murray wrote: That said... rain is a neat display hack. It's at least as good as the ASCII art VGA library. I probably would not miss anything else, or anything that wasn't multiplayer, very much, if at all... it looks like an axeing may be in order. Rain looks ridiculous on a

I can't compile GENERIC, please let's fix this

2002-10-09 Thread John Baldwin
make cc -c -O -pipe -march=pentium3 -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -g -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../../.. -I../../../dev -I../../../contrib/dev/acpica -I../../../contrib/ipfilter

Re: Do we still need portmap(8)?

2002-10-09 Thread Danny J. Zerkel
On Monday 07 October 2002 21:05, M. Warner Losh wrote: In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Giorgos Keramidas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : On 2002-10-07 15:14, Archie Cobbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: : Anything that gets overwritten during the normal install process : is already taken

Re: src/games bikeshed time.

2002-10-09 Thread Tony Finch
Mark suggested I might want to frob primes(6) so that it uses uintmax_t, which I have done (see below) but it uses rather too much C99 goodness for -STABLE. Are things like strtoumax likely to be MFCed? Tony. -- f.a.n.finch [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://dotat.at/ BAILEY: SOUTHEASTERLY 5 TO 7. RAIN.

Re: Do we still need portmap(8)?

2002-10-09 Thread Terry Lambert
Danny J. Zerkel wrote: And a list of files to delete would have saved many emails about the GCC being broken when the old headers just needed to be deleted. No, it wouldn't. The same people who failed to read the mailing list, and see the first time the problem came up, and was solved, would

Re: I can't compile GENERIC, please let's fix this

2002-10-09 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 04:36:39PM -0400, John Baldwin wrote: make cc -c -O -pipe -march=pentium3 -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -g -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../../..

Re: lpt ppbus ppi modules

2002-10-09 Thread Nicolas Souchu
On Sun, Oct 06, 2002 at 03:05:10PM +0100, n0g0013 wrote: trying to build the current kernel as modular as possible but if i remove the 'ppbus' and 'lpt' from the kernel config the modules fail (the 'ppc' is still there of course). should these build as KLMs ? Yes. What's exactly the

Re: alpha tinderbox failure

2002-10-09 Thread Peter Wemm
Andrew Gallatin wrote: Jeff Roberson writes: On Tue, 8 Oct 2002, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: Makefile, line 4194: warning: duplicate script for target geom_bsd.o ignored cc1: warnings being treated as errors /h/des/src/sys/dev/advansys/adv_pci.c: In function

Re: Do we still need portmap(8)?

2002-10-09 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg
Danny And a list of files to delete would have saved many emails Danny about the GCC being broken when the old headers just needed Danny to be deleted. We could add 'rm -rf /usr/include/*' at a suitable point inside the installworld target. --lyndon To Unsubscribe: send mail to

Re: alpha tinderbox failure

2002-10-09 Thread Bruce Evans
On Wed, 9 Oct 2002, Nate Lawson wrote: On Wed, 9 Oct 2002, Andrew Gallatin wrote: ... Clashing with int nsegments: Sparc64 has the same problem. ia64 gets around it by just making BUS_SPACE_UNRESTRICTED an int: #define BUS_SPACE_UNRESTRICTED (~0) I'd like to do the same for

Re: My problems with GEOM

2002-10-09 Thread Peter Wemm
Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Nate Lawson w ri tes: On Wed, 9 Oct 2002, David O'Brien wrote: On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 07:47:06PM +1000, Bruce Evans wrote: It still can't even mount root for my configurations. This is because it breaks compatibility by

Re: I can't compile GENERIC, please let's fix this

2002-10-09 Thread Sam Leffler
make cc -c -O -pipe -march=pentium3 -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wst rict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extens ions -ansi -g -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../../.. -I../../../dev -I../../../contrib/dev/acpica -I../../. ./contrib/ipfilter

Re: I can't compile GENERIC, please let's fix this

2002-10-09 Thread David O'Brien
On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 02:48:35PM -0700, Sam Leffler wrote: Not sure if relevant but I was fighting a cpp0 SIGSEGV this morning. I gdb'd cpp0 and tracked it down to data structure partly filled with garbage. I couldn't tell if it was really a cpp0 bug or just memory getting trashed There

Re: i386 tinderbox failure

2002-10-09 Thread Michael Nottebrock
David O'Brien wrote: I'm hoping for another 3.2.1 import soon. I raised some hell on the GCC lists last week about the quality of 3.2.1; and actually got some Athlon and p4 optimization PR's taken care of. Great, maybe I'll be able to use -march athlon again quite soon then. :) Today in my

KDE 3.0 broken in current??

2002-10-09 Thread The Gupta Age
Hi, I was trying to compile kde3 on a recent current. When the compilation reaches ksysguardd within ksysguard within kdebase3 it fails with the following error: gmake[4]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/x11/kdebase3/work/kdebase-3.0.3/ksysguard/ksysguardd/FreeBSD' source='netdev.c'

Re: [PATCH] Re: Junior Kernel Hacker page updated...

2002-10-09 Thread Stefan Farfeleder
On Tue, Oct 08, 2002 at 09:26:29PM -0700, Don Lewis wrote: On 8 Oct, Stefan Farfeleder wrote: On Mon, Oct 07, 2002 at 03:48:45AM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote: Following the advice from the spl* man page I turned the spl* calls to a mutex and was surprised to see it working. My SMP

Re: [PATCH] Re: Junior Kernel Hacker page updated...

2002-10-09 Thread Terry Lambert
Stefan Farfeleder wrote: Is it just a warning or does it pose a real problem? I think the problem with the current code is that knote_{en,de}queue can be executed in parallel (on another CPU, spl*() can't prevent that, can it?) with kqueue_scan and that kq-kq_head thus can be corrupted. Or

Re: KDE 3.0 broken in current??

2002-10-09 Thread Terry Lambert
The Gupta Age wrote: Hi, I was trying to compile kde3 on a recent current. When the compilation reaches ksysguardd within ksysguard within kdebase3 it fails with the following error: gmake[4]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/x11/kdebase3/work/kdebase-3.0.3/ksysguard/ksysguardd/FreeBSD'

Re: src/games bikeshed time.

2002-10-09 Thread Eric Melville
The current flare-up over src/games/wargames reminds me that we are carrying a bunch of Really Old Stuff in usr/games/. Yes folks, its that time of the year. I ask myself, why are we wasting ``make world'' time and install bandwidth on 1970's-era games?. Some folks will answer

Re: My problems with GEOM

2002-10-09 Thread Nate Lawson
On Wed, 9 Oct 2002, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Nate Lawson wri tes: On Wed, 9 Oct 2002, David O'Brien wrote: On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 07:47:06PM +1000, Bruce Evans wrote: It still can't even mount root for my configurations. This is because it breaks

Re: Do we still need portmap(8)?

2002-10-09 Thread Garance A Drosihn
At 3:09 PM -0600 10/9/02, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: Danny And a list of files to delete would have saved many emails Danny about the GCC being broken when the old headers just needed Danny to be deleted. We could add 'rm -rf /usr/include/*' at a suitable point inside the

Re: Do we still need portmap(8)?

2002-10-09 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg
Garance A Drosihn writes: We could add 'rm -rf /usr/include/*' at a suitable point inside the installworld target. Installers should not be blindly removing entire directory structures. The only things that live under /usr/include are those owned by the system's install target, therefore it

Re: KDE 3.0 broken in current??

2002-10-09 Thread Mike Barcroft
Terry Lambert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: KDE is broken; it's assuming promisucous headers. This could be our fault. We advertise ourselves as POSIX.1-2001 conformant, but only about 2/3 of our standard headers are. I'm systematically working my through them, but some issues take longer to

Re: src/games bikeshed time.

2002-10-09 Thread Don Lewis
On 9 Oct, Stephen J. Roznowski wrote: On 9 Oct, Mark Murray wrote: I've had a patch in the system (bin/12727) since 1999/07/20 that does just this for the NetBSD patches. I've tried a few times to get it committed. See the patch for details... This is good to have, but it doesn't change

Re: src/games bikeshed time.

2002-10-09 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 04:27:15PM -0700, Eric Melville wrote: The current flare-up over src/games/wargames reminds me that we are carrying a bunch of Really Old Stuff in usr/games/. Yes folks, its that time of the year. I ask myself, why are we wasting ``make world'' time and

Re: Do we still need portmap(8)?

2002-10-09 Thread Garance A Drosihn
At 2:00 PM -0700 10/9/02, Terry Lambert wrote: Danny J. Zerkel wrote: And a list of files to delete would have saved many emails about the GCC being broken when the old headers just needed to be deleted. No, it wouldn't. The same people who failed to read the mailing list, and see the

Re: src/games bikeshed time.

2002-10-09 Thread James Howard
So if someone were willing to take over the lot and manage them as Ports, how would anyone feel about this? FreeGrep uses the FreeBSD build style and is easily a Port. I could Port-ify the entire directory in, say, two days. Anyone interested? Jamie On Wednesday, October 9, 2002, at 09:41

Re: src/games bikeshed time.

2002-10-09 Thread James Howard
As a quick follow up, the PR database shows between fifteen and twenty PRs relating to src/games. Also, if this happened, should fortune be treated differently and moved into src/usr.bin? Or should it become a port? Jamie On Wednesday, October 9, 2002, at 09:58 PM, James Howard wrote: So if

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