Interesting new warnings in boot msgs from -current kernel

1999-07-04 Thread Donald J . Maddox
After last night's new kernel and 'make world', I find I am seeing some interesting new warnings at boot time: Copyright (c) 1992-1999 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT #0:

Loss of Functionality with newpnp

1999-09-25 Thread Donald J . Maddox
The new PnP code just plain does not work for my PnP AWE64. If I configure like this: controller pnp0 controller snd0 device sb0 device sbxvi0 device sbmidi0 device awe0 device opl0 device joy0 Which is the way it *should* work, in

Re: Loss of Functionality with newpnp

1999-09-26 Thread Donald J . Maddox
The whole point is that I want to be able to use the wavetable synthesis features of the card. Newpcm (or oldpcm, for that matter) provides NO support for the AWE device whatsoever, as you can see from your dmesg below. It makes little sense to me that PnP functionality should be tied down to a

Re: Loss of Functionality with newpnp

1999-09-26 Thread Donald J . Maddox
On Sun, Sep 26, 1999 at 01:11:55PM -0400, Gary Palmer wrote: > "Donald J . Maddox" wrote in message ID > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > I'm just suggesting here that it would be nice if the authors of > > this code would make it _equally functional_ to what w

Re: Loss of Functionality with newpnp

1999-09-26 Thread Donald J . Maddox
ep 26, 1999 at 01:42:09PM -0400, Gary Palmer wrote: > "Donald J . Maddox" wrote in message ID > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Ummm... I'm not screaming anything, Gary. The intent of my message is > > just to let the authors of this code know that it is *not* equal in

Re: Loss of Functionality with newpnp

1999-09-26 Thread Donald J . Maddox
On Sun, Sep 26, 1999 at 10:51:59AM -0700, Mike Smith wrote: > > Sigh. Again, I didn't demand anything. > > > > I simply pointed out that functionality had been lost. If I > > was the author of this code, I would *want* feedback on how > > it was working out for people out here in userland. I a

New PnP code does not work for me(?)

1999-09-26 Thread Donald J . Maddox
I couldn't get my PnP Creative AWE64G to work with the new PnP code, so I tried compiling a kernel with pcm instead. All I get is: unknown0: at port 0x220-0x22f,0x330-0x331,0x388-0x38b irq 5 drq 1,5 on isa0 unknown1: at port 0x200-0x207 on isa0 unknown2: at port 0x620-0x623 on isa0 It is my

Demand-loaded network ifs and bpf

1999-09-26 Thread Donald J . Maddox
I see that support has been added for demand-loading network if drivers. I seem to recall that the last time I tried using network drivers as klds, nothing that required bpf to work was functional anymore, because bpf required that the device existed at the time it was initialized. Is this still

Re: Loss of Functionality with newpnp

1999-09-26 Thread Donald J . Maddox
On Sun, Sep 26, 1999 at 11:41:14AM -0700, Mike Smith wrote: > > PnP is an infrastructure facility used by drivers to detect and > configure hardware. The side-effect you were relying on was that the > old code would indiscriminately configure any and all PnP hardware > regardless of whether a

Re: Loss of Functionality with newpnp

1999-09-26 Thread Donald J . Maddox
On Sun, Sep 26, 1999 at 11:59:33AM -0700, Mike Smith wrote: > > On Sun, Sep 26, 1999 at 11:41:14AM -0700, Mike Smith wrote: > > > > > > PnP is an infrastructure facility used by drivers to detect and > > > configure hardware. The side-effect you were relying on was that the > > > old code woul

Re: Loss of Functionality with newpnp

1999-09-26 Thread Donald J . Maddox
On Sun, Sep 26, 1999 at 12:29:46PM -0700, Mike Smith wrote: > > > > But we do have a working driver for the AWE64. Or rather, it worked fine > > before the new PnP code was comitted, now it doesn't. It seems to me that > > this indicates a deficiency in the new PnP code. Isn't that correct? >

Re: Loss of Functionality with newpnp

1999-09-26 Thread Donald J . Maddox
Thanks. That is exactly what I have done. The AWE device cannot work this way, but everything else is functional if I remove the PnP controller from my kernel... On Sun, Sep 26, 1999 at 10:04:38PM +0200, D. Rock wrote: > "Donald J . Maddox" schrieb: > > Is the new PnP code r

Re: New PnP code does not work for me(?)

1999-09-26 Thread Donald J . Maddox
Thanks again, Daniel... I'll take a look. If the ID isn't in there, I'll submit a PR to get it added. (should only take about 10-12 months to actually get it comitted, if experience is a reliable guide :-/) On Sun, Sep 26, 1999 at 10:09:58PM +0200, D. Rock wrote: > "Don

Re: New PnP code does not work for me(?)

1999-09-26 Thread Donald J . Maddox
Ok, will do. Thanks. This may be a silly question, but... The old PnP driver recognized a lot of devices, including my AWE64. Isn't there a list of IDs it was aware of that should be merged into newPnP ASAP? On Mon, Sep 27, 1999 at 04:27:42AM +0800, Peter Wemm wrote: > Please try the followin

Re: New PnP code does not work for me(?)

1999-09-26 Thread Donald J . Maddox
On Mon, Sep 27, 1999 at 05:05:37AM +0800, Peter Wemm wrote: > > The old PnP code was matching on the card vendor ID. The new pnp code > treats each logical device on it's own and matches by logical ID.. > (It's actually far more useful that way as most cards have their own > manufacturer ID but

Re: Loss of Functionality with newpnp

1999-09-26 Thread Donald J . Maddox
On Sun, Sep 26, 1999 at 02:23:18PM -0700, Mike Smith wrote: > > Can you give me a few hints on what would be necessary to get the old > > driver to work with the new PnP? > > As has already been explained to you (you _do_ read these messages in > their entirety, right?), the old driver has been

[dmaddox@conterra.com: Re: New PnP code does not work for me(?)]

1999-09-26 Thread Donald J . Maddox
On Sun, Sep 26, 1999 at 02:29:43PM -0700, Mike Smith wrote: > > Again, thanks for the very helpful and informative answers. I would still > > appreciate it if someone could give me a little bit more of a clue as to > > what is necessary to add newPnP-awareness to the AWE driver, though. > > (S

Re: [dmaddox@conterra.com: Re: New PnP code does not work for me(?)]

1999-09-26 Thread Donald J . Maddox
While your response seems a bit strong, to say the least, I confess that the redirection was a real mistake... I thought Mike had replied to me on the list and I had hit 'r' by accident, instead of 'g', in mutt. My apologies to Mike. On Sun, Sep 26, 1999 at 05:10:30PM -0400, Bill Fumerola wrote

Re: New PnP code does not work for me(?)

1999-09-27 Thread Donald J . Maddox
God knows, I'll second that one... :-) Hear, hear! On Sun, Sep 26, 1999 at 07:39:27PM -0700, Darryl Okahata wrote: > I want to publicly thank Peter Wemm for posting a reply that is > courteous, informative, and useful. Recently, there has been too much > noise in this and other FreeBSD lis

Re: New PnP code does not work for me(?)

1999-09-27 Thread Donald J . Maddox
Thanks, Doug. Peter already provided an equivalent patch, and I am happy to report that it works like a charm (of course :-)). On Mon, Sep 27, 1999 at 10:35:46AM +0100, Doug Rabson wrote: > On Sun, 26 Sep 1999, Donald J . Maddox wrote: > > > I couldn't get my PnP Creative AW

Re: Demand-loaded network ifs and bpf

1999-09-27 Thread Donald J . Maddox
case, the issue is easily resolvable. I will just build a kernel with bpf and no tun0, and see if 'tun0 as kld' works with bpf :-) On Mon, Sep 27, 1999 at 04:53:21PM -0700, John-Mark Gurney wrote: > Donald J . Maddox scribbled this message on Sep 26: > > I see that support has be

Re: COMMAND_SET ?

1999-10-12 Thread Donald J . Maddox
It's defined in sys/boot/common/bootstrap.h. I think all you want to know is in that file. On Tue, Oct 12, 1999 at 09:46:12PM -0400, Chuck Robey wrote: > I'm looking at sys/boot/common/pnp.c so I can find out how pnp is handled, > and I found something called a COMMAND_SET, and I can't figure ou

What happened to netstat?

1999-12-12 Thread Donald J . Maddox
After rebuilding World and kernel last night, I find that the behavior of 'netstat -a' has changed... Only UNIX domain sockets are shown in the output, no inet stuff at all, e.g.: # netstat -a Active UNIX domain sockets Address Type Recv-Q Send-QInode Conn Refs Nextref Addr cbf67

Problems with stdbool.h...

2000-11-15 Thread Donald J . Maddox
As some of you may have noticed, apsfilter will no longer compile on -current. The reason is that the configure script checks for , and uses it if it exists; but this file, as I understand it, is intended only for use with C99, and unfortunately, if it is included by the standard compiler, the re

Re: boot -c not saving changes

2000-11-26 Thread Donald J . Maddox
The answer depends on exactly how current you are... With -current from a few days ago, I would have said: Make sure you have a /boot/loader.rc file that contains at least these lines: load /kernel load -t /boot.config Then, make sure /boot.config contains all the stuff that you would normally

AWE broken by recent commits to i386/isa/sound files?

2000-11-26 Thread Donald J . Maddox
After a 'make world' last night, everytime I use any of the AWE utilities (as ported by Randall Hopper) I get this: AWE32: unsupported ioctl -1064546046 AWE32: unsupported ioctl -1064546046 I remember seeing a couple of commits to some of the files in sys/i386/isa/sound, but I don't remember exa

Re: boot -c not saving changes

2000-11-26 Thread Donald J . Maddox
On Mon, Mar 15, 1999 at 07:16:24PM +0900, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: > "Donald J . Maddox" wrote: > > > > If you are *really* -current, /boot/loader.rc should probably > > just contain something like: > > > > include /boot/loader.4th > > st

Interesting new warnings in boot msgs from -current kernel

2000-11-26 Thread Donald J . Maddox
After last night's new kernel and 'make world', I find I am seeing some interesting new warnings at boot time: Copyright (c) 1992-1999 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT #0:

Loss of Functionality with newpnp

2000-11-26 Thread Donald J . Maddox
The new PnP code just plain does not work for my PnP AWE64. If I configure like this: controller pnp0 controller snd0 device sb0 device sbxvi0 device sbmidi0 device awe0 device opl0 device joy0 Which is the way it *should* work, in

Re: Loss of Functionality with newpnp

2000-11-26 Thread Donald J . Maddox
The whole point is that I want to be able to use the wavetable synthesis features of the card. Newpcm (or oldpcm, for that matter) provides NO support for the AWE device whatsoever, as you can see from your dmesg below. It makes little sense to me that PnP functionality should be tied down to a

Re: Loss of Functionality with newpnp

2000-11-26 Thread Donald J . Maddox
On Sun, Sep 26, 1999 at 10:51:59AM -0700, Mike Smith wrote: > > Sigh. Again, I didn't demand anything. > > > > I simply pointed out that functionality had been lost. If I > > was the author of this code, I would *want* feedback on how > > it was working out for people out here in userland. I a

Re: Loss of Functionality with newpnp

2000-11-26 Thread Donald J . Maddox
On Sun, Sep 26, 1999 at 01:11:55PM -0400, Gary Palmer wrote: > "Donald J . Maddox" wrote in message ID > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > I'm just suggesting here that it would be nice if the authors of > > this code would make it _equally functional_ to what w

Re: Loss of Functionality with newpnp

2000-11-26 Thread Donald J . Maddox
ep 26, 1999 at 01:42:09PM -0400, Gary Palmer wrote: > "Donald J . Maddox" wrote in message ID > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Ummm... I'm not screaming anything, Gary. The intent of my message is > > just to let the authors of this code know that it is *not* equal in

Demand-loaded network ifs and bpf

2000-11-26 Thread Donald J . Maddox
I see that support has been added for demand-loading network if drivers. I seem to recall that the last time I tried using network drivers as klds, nothing that required bpf to work was functional anymore, because bpf required that the device existed at the time it was initialized. Is this still

Re: Loss of Functionality with newpnp

2000-11-26 Thread Donald J . Maddox
On Sun, Sep 26, 1999 at 11:41:14AM -0700, Mike Smith wrote: > > PnP is an infrastructure facility used by drivers to detect and > configure hardware. The side-effect you were relying on was that the > old code would indiscriminately configure any and all PnP hardware > regardless of whether a

Re: Loss of Functionality with newpnp

2000-11-26 Thread Donald J . Maddox
On Sun, Sep 26, 1999 at 12:29:46PM -0700, Mike Smith wrote: > > > > But we do have a working driver for the AWE64. Or rather, it worked fine > > before the new PnP code was comitted, now it doesn't. It seems to me that > > this indicates a deficiency in the new PnP code. Isn't that correct? >

New PnP code does not work for me(?)

2000-11-26 Thread Donald J . Maddox
I couldn't get my PnP Creative AWE64G to work with the new PnP code, so I tried compiling a kernel with pcm instead. All I get is: unknown0: at port 0x220-0x22f,0x330-0x331,0x388-0x38b irq 5 drq 1,5 on isa0 unknown1: at port 0x200-0x207 on isa0 unknown2: at port 0x620-0x623 on isa0 It is my

Re: Loss of Functionality with newpnp

2000-11-26 Thread Donald J . Maddox
On Sun, Sep 26, 1999 at 11:59:33AM -0700, Mike Smith wrote: > > On Sun, Sep 26, 1999 at 11:41:14AM -0700, Mike Smith wrote: > > > > > > PnP is an infrastructure facility used by drivers to detect and > > > configure hardware. The side-effect you were relying on was that the > > > old code woul

Re: New PnP code does not work for me(?)

2000-11-26 Thread Donald J . Maddox
Ok, will do. Thanks. This may be a silly question, but... The old PnP driver recognized a lot of devices, including my AWE64. Isn't there a list of IDs it was aware of that should be merged into newPnP ASAP? On Mon, Sep 27, 1999 at 04:27:42AM +0800, Peter Wemm wrote: > Please try the followin

Re: Loss of Functionality with newpnp

2000-11-26 Thread Donald J . Maddox
Thanks. That is exactly what I have done. The AWE device cannot work this way, but everything else is functional if I remove the PnP controller from my kernel... On Sun, Sep 26, 1999 at 10:04:38PM +0200, D. Rock wrote: > "Donald J . Maddox" schrieb: > > Is the new PnP code r

Re: Loss of Functionality with newpnp

2000-11-26 Thread Donald J . Maddox
On Sun, Sep 26, 1999 at 02:23:18PM -0700, Mike Smith wrote: > > Can you give me a few hints on what would be necessary to get the old > > driver to work with the new PnP? > > As has already been explained to you (you _do_ read these messages in > their entirety, right?), the old driver has been

Re: [dmaddox@conterra.com: Re: New PnP code does not work for me(?)]

2000-11-26 Thread Donald J . Maddox
While your response seems a bit strong, to say the least, I confess that the redirection was a real mistake... I thought Mike had replied to me on the list and I had hit 'r' by accident, instead of 'g', in mutt. My apologies to Mike. On Sun, Sep 26, 1999 at 05:10:30PM -0400, Bill Fumerola wrote

[dmaddox@conterra.com: Re: New PnP code does not work for me(?)]

2000-11-26 Thread Donald J . Maddox
On Sun, Sep 26, 1999 at 02:29:43PM -0700, Mike Smith wrote: > > Again, thanks for the very helpful and informative answers. I would still > > appreciate it if someone could give me a little bit more of a clue as to > > what is necessary to add newPnP-awareness to the AWE driver, though. > > (S

Re: New PnP code does not work for me(?)

2000-11-26 Thread Donald J . Maddox
On Mon, Sep 27, 1999 at 05:05:37AM +0800, Peter Wemm wrote: > > The old PnP code was matching on the card vendor ID. The new pnp code > treats each logical device on it's own and matches by logical ID.. > (It's actually far more useful that way as most cards have their own > manufacturer ID but

Re: New PnP code does not work for me(?)

2000-11-26 Thread Donald J . Maddox
God knows, I'll second that one... :-) Hear, hear! On Sun, Sep 26, 1999 at 07:39:27PM -0700, Darryl Okahata wrote: > I want to publicly thank Peter Wemm for posting a reply that is > courteous, informative, and useful. Recently, there has been too much > noise in this and other FreeBSD lis

Re: New PnP code does not work for me(?)

2000-11-26 Thread Donald J . Maddox
Thanks, Doug. Peter already provided an equivalent patch, and I am happy to report that it works like a charm (of course :-)). On Mon, Sep 27, 1999 at 10:35:46AM +0100, Doug Rabson wrote: > On Sun, 26 Sep 1999, Donald J . Maddox wrote: > > > I couldn't get my PnP Creative AW

Re: Demand-loaded network ifs and bpf

2000-11-26 Thread Donald J . Maddox
case, the issue is easily resolvable. I will just build a kernel with bpf and no tun0, and see if 'tun0 as kld' works with bpf :-) On Mon, Sep 27, 1999 at 04:53:21PM -0700, John-Mark Gurney wrote: > Donald J . Maddox scribbled this message on Sep 26: > > I see that support has be

Re: COMMAND_SET ?

2000-11-26 Thread Donald J . Maddox
It's defined in sys/boot/common/bootstrap.h. I think all you want to know is in that file. On Tue, Oct 12, 1999 at 09:46:12PM -0400, Chuck Robey wrote: > I'm looking at sys/boot/common/pnp.c so I can find out how pnp is handled, > and I found something called a COMMAND_SET, and I can't figure ou

Re: New PnP code does not work for me(?)

2000-11-26 Thread Donald J . Maddox
Thanks again, Daniel... I'll take a look. If the ID isn't in there, I'll submit a PR to get it added. (should only take about 10-12 months to actually get it comitted, if experience is a reliable guide :-/) On Sun, Sep 26, 1999 at 10:09:58PM +0200, D. Rock wrote: > "Don

3dfx.ko

2000-11-28 Thread Donald J . Maddox
The standard way of loading a particular module at boot from /boot/loader.conf is 'modulename_load="YES"', right? This doesn't seem to be possible with the 3dfx module, however... Since it's name starts with a number, it causes a syntax error. Being FORTH-impaired, I have no idea how to work aro

Re: 3dfx.ko

2000-11-28 Thread Donald J . Maddox
deprecated a while back... On Tue, Nov 28, 2000 at 06:22:33PM -0500, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: > "Donald J . Maddox" wrote: > > > > Also, it doesn't seem to be possible to compile 'device tdfx' > > statically into the kernel either, since it d

Other Linux stuff...

2000-11-28 Thread Donald J . Maddox
ised that this works on Linux, shouldn't our emulator emulate this behavior too? On Tue, Nov 28, 2000 at 07:03:38PM -0500, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: > "Donald J . Maddox" wrote: > > > > I actually thought that COMPAT_LINUX had been completely removed, just > > cau

Re: 3dfx.ko

2000-11-28 Thread Donald J . Maddox
Thanks! This works great. I remember reading the stuff at the bottom of /boot/defaults/loader.conf about the 'module_name' variable, etc. and wondering what on Earth it might be useful for :) Guess I know now :) Thanks again... "Daniel C. Sobral" wrote: >Use two variables to control this. For

Re: [jhb@FreeBSD.org: RE: Panic in -current]

2000-12-04 Thread Donald J . Maddox
Just as a data point, I just tried this as well... The daemon saver was ok, the fire saver was ok, but as soon as I loaded logo_saver and it activated, I got a 'dc0 timeout'(?) and I was unable to access any of the vtys after that... I could switch vtys, but could not type anything. The fire_sa

Re: [jhb@FreeBSD.org: RE: Panic in -current]

2000-12-04 Thread Donald J . Maddox
if_dc.ko 82 0xc037e000 10004miibus.ko 91 0xc038f000 76e0 linprocfs.ko On Mon, Dec 04, 2000 at 09:59:31PM -0500, Donald J . Maddox wrote: > Just as a data point, I just tried this as well... The daemon saver was ok, > the fire saver was ok, but as soon as I loaded logo_sav

Re: Problem With Man Formatting

2000-12-08 Thread Donald J . Maddox
I don't think so... I am -current as of yesterday and my manpages are displaying just fine, headers and all. On Fri, Dec 08, 2000 at 06:05:01PM -0500, Brandon D. Valentine wrote: > On Fri, 8 Dec 2000, Thomas D. Dean wrote: > > >Since a 12/6 cvsup and 'make world', I notice a problem with the >

Is compatibility for old aout binaries broken?

2000-12-16 Thread Donald J . Maddox
The other day, on a whim, I decided to try running an old binary of SimCity (the same one found in the 'commerce' directory on many FBSD cds), and it failed in a odd way... /usr/libexec/ld.so: Undefined symbol "___error" called from sim:/usr/X11R6/lib/aout/libX11.so.6.1 at 0x20160644 # ldd sim

Re: Is compatibility for old aout binaries broken?

2000-12-17 Thread Donald J . Maddox
reinstall from scratch a while back by installing 4.2-RELEASE and then cvsupping back to -current, so I guess I lost my working aout ld.so in the process. Bummer :( On Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 02:58:16AM +1000, Stephen McKay wrote: > On Saturday, 16th December 2000, "Donald J . Maddox" wrote: &g

Re: Is compatibility for old aout binaries broken?

2000-12-17 Thread Donald J . Maddox
Well, if you do manage to uncover the lost magic, please let me know :) On Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 04:41:17PM +1000, Stephen McKay wrote: > > I expected some build tool expert to say "Just compile with these > options". But they haven't. So I'll see if the bits have rotted, > or whether we can ke

Re: Is compatibility for old aout binaries broken?

2000-12-18 Thread Donald J . Maddox
You don't need a CDROM... You can get it from: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-current/commerce/games/SimCity/SimCity-3.6b.tgz On Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 10:03:15AM -0800, David O'Brien wrote: > On Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 01:00:28AM +1000, Stephen McKay wrote: > > So we could in principle b

Interesting new messages in logs

2000-12-19 Thread Donald J . Maddox
After my latest update, I am getting LOTS of the following in my logs: Dec 19 12:21:04 cae88-102-101 /boot/kernel/kernel: Connection attempt to TCP ::0001:25 from ::0001:1286 Dec 19 12:24:08 cae88-102-101 /boot/kernel/kernel: Connection attempt to TCP ::0001:25 from ::0001:1299 Dec 19 12:27:13

Re: Interesting new messages in logs

2000-12-19 Thread Donald J . Maddox
On Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 07:33:49PM +0100, Szilveszter Adam wrote: > On Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 01:20:57PM -0500, Donald J . Maddox wrote: > > After my latest update, I am getting LOTS of the following in my logs: > > > > Dec 19 12:21:04 cae88-102-101 /boot/kernel/kernel: Conn

Re: Interesting new messages in logs

2000-12-19 Thread Donald J . Maddox
You're right that the answer to my question was IPV6 (I didn't have it compiled into the previous kernel). You're wrong that a port need not be open to receive connections. You will note in the log excerpt below that these are connection *attempts*, not actual connections. On Tue, Dec 19, 2000

Re: Interesting new messages in logs

2000-12-19 Thread Donald J . Maddox
On Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 09:56:36PM +0100, Ollivier Robert wrote: > According to Donald J . Maddox: > > open. Also, why the odd format in the addresses? > > Looks like some kind of IPv6 address... You're right. I compiled the new kernel with IPV6 enabled. I didn't

No cable modems??

2000-12-19 Thread Donald J . Maddox
modems here Last-Attempt-Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 18:19:38 -0500 (EST) On Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 09:56:36PM +0100, Ollivier Robert wrote: > According to Donald J . Maddox: > > open. Also, why the odd format in the addresses? > > Looks like some kind of IPv6 address... You're ri

Re: No cable modems??

2000-12-19 Thread Donald J . Maddox
I apologized in advance, and I do again, but I have no way of knowing if Ollivier is subscribed to -chat. Thanks for understanding. Further discssion has been moved to chat. On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 08:19:34AM +0200, Mark Murray wrote: > This is offtopic! If you need to discuss it, please take i

Re: Is compatibility for old aout binaries broken?

2000-12-20 Thread Donald J . Maddox
Looks like you got a lot farther than I did with it... Are you sure you don't have an old aout ld.so on that machine? Here's what I get: >dmaddox> SimCity Starting SimCity ... SimCity Classic - UNIX / Tcl & Tk Toolkit version 3.6b - Mattes /usr/libexec/ld.so: Undefined symbol "___error" called

Re: Is compatibility for old aout binaries broken?

2000-12-20 Thread Donald J . Maddox
Actually, the aout libs I am using when I get the ___error undefined are the ones from the XFree86-3.3.6 distribution, compiled for FreeBSD 3.x. Originally I was using the aout X libs I built myself when building the XFree86-3.3.6 port. Using those, I still got an undefined symbol, but it wasn'

Re: Is compatibility for old aout binaries broken?

2000-12-20 Thread Donald J . Maddox
On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 01:52:23AM -0800, David O'Brien wrote: > On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 03:57:07AM -0500, Donald J . Maddox wrote: > > Looks like you got a lot farther than I did with it... Are you > > sure you don't have an old aout ld.so on that machine? > >

Re: Is compatibility for old aout binaries broken?

2000-12-20 Thread Donald J . Maddox
On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 02:24:26AM -0800, David O'Brien wrote: > On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 05:09:45AM -0500, Donald J . Maddox wrote: > > >res> ldd sim > > sim: > > -lXext.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/aout/libXext.so.6.3 (0x200c5000) > > -lX11.6 => /

Re: Is compatibility for old aout binaries broken?

2000-12-20 Thread Donald J . Maddox
Interesting. After I installed the XFree86-aoutlibs port, SimCity works fine for me (on an 8-bit display)... It didn't work with the X libs built by the port when aout libs are requested, and it didn't work with the X libs from 3.3.6, but it works with these. > > Looks good. Can you install th

Re: Is compatibility for old aout binaries broken?

2000-12-20 Thread Donald J . Maddox
On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 10:14:09AM -0800, David O'Brien wrote: > On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 11:15:55PM +1000, Stephen McKay wrote: > > Correcting slightly for your slightly off assumption: The X11 libs were > > probably built on a 3.x box. Their problem is that being newer than > > libc.so.2.2 (or w

Re: Is compatibility for old aout binaries broken?

2000-12-20 Thread Donald J . Maddox
On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 10:43:39AM -0800, David O'Brien wrote: > On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 05:28:45AM -0500, Donald J . Maddox wrote: > > > > How can you be using the same X libs as me, and not be using > > XFree86? > > XFree86 has many components to it -- bina

ACPI says: "too many dependant configs"(?)

2000-12-24 Thread Donald J . Maddox
Last night I installed a kernel with 'device acpica' for the 1st time, and all seems fine, except that I see this at boot: . . . npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface too many dependant configs too many dependant configs too many dependant configs too many dependant configs atkbdc0: at po

Re: ACPI says: "too many dependant configs"(?)

2000-12-24 Thread Donald J . Maddox
Ok, thanks for the info... But this begs the question: Why does the code limit maxdeps to 8? On Sun, Dec 24, 2000 at 11:50:13AM -0800, Mike Smith wrote: > > Last night I installed a kernel with 'device acpica' for the 1st > > time, and all seems fine, except that I see this at boot: > ... > > t

Re: pcm status

2001-01-20 Thread Donald J . Maddox
This is directly traceable to entropy harvesting by /dev/*random. I know it's not an option if you need to use ssh, but not loading random.ko will fix the sound problems when moving the mouse or typing. It doesn't fix the 'hwptr went backwards' messages, though. On Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 11:42:32P

Re: pcm status

2001-01-20 Thread Donald J . Maddox
If it helps at all, it's marginal. I still get skips. On Sat, Jan 20, 2001 at 05:36:08PM +0200, Mark Murray wrote: > > This is directly traceable to entropy harvesting by /dev/*random. > > I know it's not an option if you need to use ssh, but not loading > > random.ko will fix the sound problems

Re: HEADS UP: Strange booting lockups

2001-01-21 Thread Donald J . Maddox
On Sun, Jan 21, 2001 at 03:29:22PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Sun, Jan 21, 2001 at 06:05:20AM -0500, Donald J . Maddox wrote: > > > It may have absolutely nothing to do with either of these cases, but > > I found out the hard way recently that booting with no device.hints

Re: lastest kernel from cvs ( sh exists with signal 8 )

2001-01-21 Thread Donald J . Maddox
On Sun, Jan 21, 2001 at 10:49:30PM -0800, Peter Wemm wrote: > > Argh! I wish people would stop using buildkernel! :-( It calls config(8) > in such a way that buries the warning messages where people dont see. > config(8) is meant to be used interactively :-( Is there another target that will ge

Re: lastest kernel from cvs ( sh exists with signal 8 )

2001-01-21 Thread Donald J . Maddox
Ok, fair enough. I have to confess that my usual procedure remains, as it has been for a long time, like this: 1) rm -r /usr/include; cd /usr/src; make includes This may be controversial, but it has always worked for me, and although it's not supposed to (in my understanding), the build (I thin

Re: lastest kernel from cvs ( sh exists with signal 8 )

2001-01-21 Thread Donald J . Maddox
On Sun, Jan 21, 2001 at 11:35:49PM -0800, John Baldwin wrote: > > On 22-Jan-01 Donald J . Maddox wrote: > > > > 1) rm -r /usr/include; cd /usr/src; make includes > > I just do 'make includes' w/o the rm of /usr/include when I do this.. I used to do 'm

Re: RELENG_3 boot failed

1999-01-24 Thread Donald J . Maddox
On Sun, Jan 24, 1999 at 10:35:23AM -0500, Tom Torrance at home wrote: > After a cvsup this AM, the boot process failed when attempting > to mount the root partition, with the message: > specified device does no match mounted device. > > I had to change the device specification in /etc/fstab from >

Re: Problems with 4.0-current

1999-01-24 Thread Donald J . Maddox
On Sun, Jan 24, 1999 at 01:47:25PM -0600, Stingray wrote: > I just CVSup'd 4.0-current and installed it, then made an elf kernel. > The elf kernel seemed to boot up just fine, but when the file systems > where being mounted, it couldn't mount /: > > Specified device does not match mounted de

link_elf: symbol lkmexists undefined

1999-01-25 Thread Donald J . Maddox
Since building a new kernel and a full 'make world' on Jan 24, I am seeing this at boot: avail memory = 62210048 (60752K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xf02cc000. Preloaded elf module "msdos.ko" at 0xf02cc09c. Preloaded elf module "procfs.ko" at 0xf02cc13c. Preloaded elf module "if_tun.k

Re: boot -c not saving changes

1999-03-14 Thread Donald J . Maddox
The answer depends on exactly how current you are... With -current from a few days ago, I would have said: Make sure you have a /boot/loader.rc file that contains at least these lines: load /kernel load -t /boot.config Then, make sure /boot.config contains all the stuff that you would normally

Re: boot -c not saving changes

1999-03-14 Thread Donald J. Maddox
Yeah, you're right on all counts, of course... I've answered this question so many times in the last 10 days that I'm starting to go on autopilot :-/ Robert Nordier wrote: > > Donald J . Maddox wrote: > > > The answer depends on exactly how current you are... &g

Re: boot -c not saving changes

1999-03-15 Thread Donald J . Maddox
On Mon, Mar 15, 1999 at 07:16:24PM +0900, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: > "Donald J . Maddox" wrote: > > > > If you are *really* -current, /boot/loader.rc should probably > > just contain something like: > > > > include /boot/loader.4th > > st

AWE broken by recent commits to i386/isa/sound files?

1999-04-03 Thread Donald J . Maddox
After a 'make world' last night, everytime I use any of the AWE utilities (as ported by Randall Hopper) I get this: AWE32: unsupported ioctl -1064546046 AWE32: unsupported ioctl -1064546046 I remember seeing a couple of commits to some of the files in sys/i386/isa/sound, but I don't remember exac