Re: BTX issue, and general report on SMP issues...
John Baldwin wrote: > On 19-Nov-01 Jim Bryant wrote: > >>anyhow, now that this is working, i'm kinda pissed to have lost use of my >>mouse wheel. apparently the keyboard was made before >>wheels became popular. >> >>anyone know a good usb keyboard with a ps/2 mouse port built-in that will >>translate the wheel on the mouse? once ya get used to the >>wheels, it's amazing how much you use it... >> > > You can get USB mice with wheels I think. If the keyboard has a USB hub, then > it shouldn't care what the mouse is like. Does the keyboard have a PS/2 port > or some such? Yeah, this one is a belkin, and it lacks the hub, and instead has a ps/2 port on the side.. it's actually quite handy, as even now, it's not easy finding USB mice... jim -- ET has one helluva sense of humor! He's always anal-probing right-wing schizos! - POWER TO THE PEOPLE! - "Religious fundamentalism is the biggest threat to international security that exists today." United Nations Secretary General B.B.Ghali, 1995 _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: BTX issue, and general report on SMP issues...
On 19-Nov-01 Jim Bryant wrote: > anyhow, now that this is working, i'm kinda pissed to have lost use of my > mouse wheel. apparently the keyboard was made before > wheels became popular. > > anyone know a good usb keyboard with a ps/2 mouse port built-in that will > translate the wheel on the mouse? once ya get used to the > wheels, it's amazing how much you use it... You can get USB mice with wheels I think. If the keyboard has a USB hub, then it shouldn't care what the mouse is like. Does the keyboard have a PS/2 port or some such? -- John Baldwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: BTX issue, and general report on SMP issues...
John Baldwin wrote: > On 18-Nov-01 Jim Bryant wrote: > >>John Baldwin wrote: >> >> >>>On 16-Nov-01 Jim Bryant wrote: >>> >>> It's not the BIOS failing it... The BTX bootstrap loader V 1.00 detects the keyboard, and refuses to proceed without it. >>>Err, no. BTX cares zero, zilch, nada about keyboards. Can you please >>>provide >>>the error message you get? >>> >> >>It was no error message in particular, everything normally just froze. >> >>Anyhow, this is now a solved issue. >> >>Apparently, at one point in time a "-P" made itself into /boot.config, once >>/boot.config was rm'ed, everything sorted itself out. >> > > Oh, so it was booting over serial console, not quite frozen. It just looks > frozen. :) exactly... anyhow, now that this is working, i'm kinda pissed to have lost use of my mouse wheel. apparently the keyboard was made before wheels became popular. anyone know a good usb keyboard with a ps/2 mouse port built-in that will translate the wheel on the mouse? once ya get used to the wheels, it's amazing how much you use it... jim -- ET has one helluva sense of humor! He's always anal-probing right-wing schizos! - POWER TO THE PEOPLE! - "Religious fundamentalism is the biggest threat to international security that exists today." United Nations Secretary General B.B.Ghali, 1995 _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: BTX issue, and general report on SMP issues...
On 18-Nov-01 Jim Bryant wrote: > John Baldwin wrote: > >> On 16-Nov-01 Jim Bryant wrote: >> >>>It's not the BIOS failing it... >>> >>>The BTX bootstrap loader V 1.00 detects the keyboard, and refuses to proceed >>>without it. >>> >> >> Err, no. BTX cares zero, zilch, nada about keyboards. Can you please >> provide >> the error message you get? > > > It was no error message in particular, everything normally just froze. > > Anyhow, this is now a solved issue. > > Apparently, at one point in time a "-P" made itself into /boot.config, once > /boot.config was rm'ed, everything sorted itself out. Oh, so it was booting over serial console, not quite frozen. It just looks frozen. :) -- John Baldwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: BTX issue, and general report on SMP issues...
John Baldwin wrote: > On 16-Nov-01 Jim Bryant wrote: > >>It's not the BIOS failing it... >> >>The BTX bootstrap loader V 1.00 detects the keyboard, and refuses to proceed >>without it. >> > > Err, no. BTX cares zero, zilch, nada about keyboards. Can you please provide > the error message you get? It was no error message in particular, everything normally just froze. Anyhow, this is now a solved issue. Apparently, at one point in time a "-P" made itself into /boot.config, once /boot.config was rm'ed, everything sorted itself out. jim -- ET has one helluva sense of humor! He's always anal-probing right-wing schizos! - POWER TO THE PEOPLE! - "Religious fundamentalism is the biggest threat to international security that exists today." United Nations Secretary General B.B.Ghali, 1995 _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: BTX issue, and general report on SMP issues...
> It's not the BIOS failing it... > > The BTX bootstrap loader V 1.00 detects the keyboard, and refuses to proceed > without it. The BTX loader does not detect or care about the keyboard at all. You have another problem, and you need to supply more details before we can be of any more assistance. In particular, "refuses to proceed without it" does not give us any useful information at all about the actual symptoms. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: BTX issue, and general report on SMP issues...
On 16-Nov-01 Jim Bryant wrote: > It's not the BIOS failing it... > > The BTX bootstrap loader V 1.00 detects the keyboard, and refuses to proceed > without it. Err, no. BTX cares zero, zilch, nada about keyboards. Can you please provide the error message you get? -- John Baldwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: BTX issue, and general report on SMP issues...
It's not the BIOS failing it... The BTX bootstrap loader V 1.00 detects the keyboard, and refuses to proceed without it. Chris Dempsey wrote: > Try changing the BIOS options regarding failing on all > errors. After changing my Tyan Thunder K7 to not fail > on keyboard failures, it was able to boot fine. > > Also, if you intend to use a USB keyboard permanently, > you may wish to comment out atkbdc from your kernel > configuration file. This will make it easier to set > up kbdcontrol with the USB keyboard. > > Let me know if you have further questions. > > Chris Dempsey jim -- ET has one helluva sense of humor! He's always anal-probing right-wing schizos! - POWER TO THE PEOPLE! - "Religious fundamentalism is the biggest threat to international security that exists today." United Nations Secretary General B.B.Ghali, 1995 _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
RE: BTX issue, and general report on SMP issues...
Try changing the BIOS options regarding failing on all errors. After changing my Tyan Thunder K7 to not fail on keyboard failures, it was able to boot fine. Also, if you intend to use a USB keyboard permanently, you may wish to comment out atkbdc from your kernel configuration file. This will make it easier to set up kbdcontrol with the USB keyboard. Let me know if you have further questions. Chris Dempsey --- John Baldwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 15-Nov-01 Jim Bryant wrote: > > I am in the process of switching to a USB keyboard > with a PS/2 to USB mouse > > port on the KB [freeing IRQ 12]. > > > > The keyboard works, the mouse works. > > > > My problem here is in getting past the BTX loader > WITHOUT the AT keyboard > > attached. How would I keep BTX from freezing when > it > > can't see the AT keyboard? > > Huh? What actual problem is BTX giving you? I boot > lots of machines headless, > and have used USB keyboards on machines in the past. > > > Also, after over a month of not being able to > buildworld with SMP-current, I > > managed to build a kernel from the same sources > that I > > built my last SMP kernel with [yesterday's > -current], except this time it was > > in uniprocessor configuration, and now I don't get > the > > random panics which were most obvious when > attempting to buildworld over the > > past month or so [I have tried new kernels about > every > > week for over a month, all have had the same > issues]. > > > > I have read that others seem to be having problems > in SMP, and I guess I am > > not alone. I saved the SMP kernel, so I can still > boot > > into it, but these seem to be random, and I could > sit for a minute or for an > > hour before I get to a point where I can even see > the > > panic, but if any tracebacks are needed, I do have > the debugger in, assuming > > this problem isn't already known. > > What kind of panics? When you get a panic, please > post it to the list along > with a trace and any other useful debug info. We > can't fix bugs we don't know > about. > > -- > > John Baldwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <>< > http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ > "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - > http://www.FreeBSD.org/ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of > the message = Christopher P Dempsey - [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
RE: BTX issue, and general report on SMP issues...
On 15-Nov-01 Jim Bryant wrote: > I am in the process of switching to a USB keyboard with a PS/2 to USB mouse > port on the KB [freeing IRQ 12]. > > The keyboard works, the mouse works. > > My problem here is in getting past the BTX loader WITHOUT the AT keyboard > attached. How would I keep BTX from freezing when it > can't see the AT keyboard? Huh? What actual problem is BTX giving you? I boot lots of machines headless, and have used USB keyboards on machines in the past. > Also, after over a month of not being able to buildworld with SMP-current, I > managed to build a kernel from the same sources that I > built my last SMP kernel with [yesterday's -current], except this time it was > in uniprocessor configuration, and now I don't get the > random panics which were most obvious when attempting to buildworld over the > past month or so [I have tried new kernels about every > week for over a month, all have had the same issues]. > > I have read that others seem to be having problems in SMP, and I guess I am > not alone. I saved the SMP kernel, so I can still boot > into it, but these seem to be random, and I could sit for a minute or for an > hour before I get to a point where I can even see the > panic, but if any tracebacks are needed, I do have the debugger in, assuming > this problem isn't already known. What kind of panics? When you get a panic, please post it to the list along with a trace and any other useful debug info. We can't fix bugs we don't know about. -- John Baldwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
