Re: Crashing netscape?
On Tue, 22 Feb 2000, Alexander Leidinger wrote: But this didn't solve the crash at exit. But... rm -rf /usr/lib/compat/* cd /usr/src/lib/compat/compat22/ make all install clean cd ../compat3x.i386/ make all install clean solved this for me (YMMV). After doing this, I noticed some crud lying around on my machine that might have been contributing to problems for me. I noticed that the aout version of libc was coming from /usr/lib/aout, which I guess is an old place that libraries were kept. This is probably one more thing people can look for to ensure that they are using the newest versions of the compatibility libraries. Alex. -- alex varju [EMAIL PROTECTED] just a guy webct canada To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: Crashing netscape?
On 23-Feb-00 Kenneth D. Merry wrote: Well, Alexander Leidinger's suggestion of disabling Javascript seems to help. I disabled both JavaScript and Style Sheets (in the "advanced" preferences menu) and in relatively limited testing, Slashdot didn't crash Netscape for me. If you login to /. you can change your preferences to be 'simple HTML' which makes it not crash netscape and load faster too.. --- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: Crashing netscape?
On Tue, Feb 22, 2000 at 03:16:00AM -0500, Donn Miller wrote: I can give you the .mozconfig file I used to successfully build Mozilla on -current. Patches to make the port compile on Current? :-) -- -- David([EMAIL PROTECTED]) To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: Crashing netscape?
On Wed, 23 Feb 2000, David O'Brien wrote: On Tue, Feb 22, 2000 at 03:16:00AM -0500, Donn Miller wrote: I can give you the .mozconfig file I used to successfully build Mozilla on -current. Patches to make the port compile on Current? :-) Well, I've been checking out the source code to Mozilla about 2X a week (via cvs -z3 co SeaMonkeyAll), and building it on my own... I see they've fixed some stuff since M13. But, putting the right stuff in .mozconfig can be tricky. If you put certain things in there, the build will bomb out. BTW, I noticed there's certain bugs with gcc's optimization code. For example, I used '-mpentium -O3 -pipe' as the optimization flags in building the latest Qt snapshot. If I used those CFLAGS I described, the build bombs out with "Internal compiler error". When I reverted back to the stock CFLAGS for the Qt build (-O2 -pipe), the errors went away. I guess I really don't have to build _everything_ on the planet with -mpentium -O3 -pipe. I noticed that most gcc "Internal compiler errors" are caused by using high optimization levels. I really didn't notice that big an increase in performance, anyways. The performance increase was about on par with changing the air filter in your car. - Donn To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: Crashing netscape?
On 22 Feb, Steve Hocking wrote: There was some discussion of this over on the XFree mailing lists, and it transpired that netscape was using a pointer to some memory that had been freed some time back. This showed up in cases where you open up a stack of windows and then close them at random. There was a patch to work around this for libXt (I think). But this didn't solve the crash at exit. But... rm -rf /usr/lib/compat/* cd /usr/src/lib/compat/compat22/ make all install clean cd ../compat3x.i386/ make all install clean solved this for me (YMMV). Together with disabling Java* and using those ---snip--- Netscape*dragInitiatorProtocolStyle:XmDRAG_NONE Netscape*dragReceiverProtocolStyle: XmDRAG_NONE ---snip--- Xresources I have a more stable Netscape. Bye, Alexander. -- ...and that is how we know the Earth to be banana-shaped. http://www.Leidinger.net Alexander+Home @ Leidinger.net Key fingerprint = 7423 F3E6 3A7E B334 A9CC B10A 1F5F 130A A638 6E7E To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: Crashing netscape?
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Alex Le Heux wrote: Hi, Am I the only one who's experiencing an amzing amount of crashes on Netscape? This made a real difference in stability for me: Before installing a new Netscape, rm -rf /usr/local/lib/netscape rm -rf /home/*/.netscape Seriously, when I had old config stuff lying around, Netscape's crash frequency was about 10 times as much as it is now that I clean up before upgrading. Turning off Javascript also helps, but may be contraproductive. Also, consider Netscape 3.04 for stability. BTW, does anyone know if its possible to write a plugin for the BSDI version of Navigator 3.04 so that it display *.png files as it displays *.gif files now? As I understand, a plugin doesn't have fine enough access to the display code to do this, right? Martin -- % Martin Cracauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cons.org/cracauer/ BSD User Group Hamburg, Germany http://www.bsdhh.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: Crashing netscape?
Martin Cracauer wrote: BTW, does anyone know if its possible to write a plugin for the BSDI version of Navigator 3.04 so that it display *.png files as it displays *.gif files now? As I understand, a plugin doesn't have fine enough access to the display code to do this, right? You could try Mozilla. I usually check out the SeaMonkeyAll code via cvs. So far, it's built fairly well. Mozilla is still a bit sluggish now, though. (I guess the optimization for speed will come later.) I can give you the .mozconfig file I used to successfully build Mozilla on -current. Also, xemacs has a `w3' package that does web pages, possibly png. (Some pages don't look very well, however.) - Donn To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: Crashing netscape?
I will try this and see if it helps. Cheers, Alex On Mon, Feb 21, 2000 at 06:56:41PM -0500, Bryan Liesner wrote: On Mon, 21 Feb 2000, Alex Le Heux wrote: Hi, Am I the only one who's experiencing an amzing amount of crashes on Netscape? It's been going on for quite some time now (months), upgrading Netscape or switching from the Linux to the FreeBSD to the BSDI version doesn't help. The most stable version seems to be the Linux version, but that even crashes 5-10 times per day. It will *always* crash when a page uses java, but I've not been able to find a non-java page that will always crash it. Netscape would always crash on me when loading a java applet - I found that if you define both the scaled and unscaled fonts in XF86Config as below that all the java related crashes go away. It still crashes occasionally on complex pages that load up a million different frames, though. Section "Files" RgbPath"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled" ModulePath "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules" EndSection Hope this helps. -Bryan -- --- I dabble in techno-house and sometimes, I do that badass hip-hop thang... But the F U N K gets me every time! To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: Crashing netscape?
There was some discussion of this over on the XFree mailing lists, and it transpired that netscape was using a pointer to some memory that had been freed some time back. This showed up in cases where you open up a stack of windows and then close them at random. There was a patch to work around this for libXt (I think). Stephen To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: Crashing netscape?
On Tue, Feb 22, 2000 at 23:42:56 -0800, William R. Somsky wrote: On Mon, Feb 21, 2000 at 01:09:16PM -0700, Kenneth D. Merry wrote: On Mon, Feb 21, 2000 at 11:50:46 -0800, Matthew Jacob wrote: It crashes for me a lot. There's some deal about fonts, oddly enough, which causes it to crash right away- see the installation instructions that come out when you install communicator-47- it said something about mkfontdir. It still crashes or wedges for me a lot, though. I tried mozilla, and that was worse. For me at least, slashdot seems to make netscape crash eventually. Same here, except "eventually" is sometimes "immediately"... :-( Well, Alexander Leidinger's suggestion of disabling Javascript seems to help. I disabled both JavaScript and Style Sheets (in the "advanced" preferences menu) and in relatively limited testing, Slashdot didn't crash Netscape for me. Ken -- Kenneth Merry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: Crashing netscape?
You arent the only one, I have tried nestcape 4.08 and 4.7 navigator and both exit on signal 10 and coredump quite often. It happens in the middle of page rendering and also everytime I try to close the application (rare since I hardly ever get the chance to do that myself). I dont know why it does that. I can't seem to tell that there is any definite pattern to it, or that anything in particular triggers it. I just deal with it, and lately I just do most of my browsing on a different machine with a different OS :/. Trying Mozilla M13 now, and it doesnt seem to be as bad although it still doesnt render pages correctly most of the time. -Will On Mon, 21 Feb 2000, Alex Le Heux wrote: Hi, Am I the only one who's experiencing an amzing amount of crashes on Netscape? It's been going on for quite some time now (months), upgrading Netscape or switching from the Linux to the FreeBSD to the BSDI version doesn't help. The most stable version seems to be the Linux version, but that even crashes 5-10 times per day. It will *always* crash when a page uses java, but I've not been able to find a non-java page that will always crash it. Is it just me? All the people I know who run various versions of FreeBSD say it's not so bad. Alex -- inof "What is this talk of 'release'? We do not make software 'releases'. Our software 'escapes', leaving a bloody trail of designers and quality assurance people in its wake." To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: Crashing netscape?
You may want to try upgrading your linux libraries... they may be old... I don't have these problems though... Netscape rarely crashes for me. = | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best OS around.| | Unix Systems Administrator | ICQ #: 24767726 | | and student at The | AIM: muythaibxr | | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction) | | College Park. | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/| = On Mon, 21 Feb 2000, Alex Le Heux wrote: Hi, Am I the only one who's experiencing an amzing amount of crashes on Netscape? It's been going on for quite some time now (months), upgrading Netscape or switching from the Linux to the FreeBSD to the BSDI version doesn't help. The most stable version seems to be the Linux version, but that even crashes 5-10 times per day. It will *always* crash when a page uses java, but I've not been able to find a non-java page that will always crash it. Is it just me? All the people I know who run various versions of FreeBSD say it's not so bad. Alex -- inof "What is this talk of 'release'? We do not make software 'releases'. Our software 'escapes', leaving a bloody trail of designers and quality assurance people in its wake." To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: Crashing netscape?
It crashes for me a lot. There's some deal about fonts, oddly enough, which causes it to crash right away- see the installation instructions that come out when you install communicator-47- it said something about mkfontdir. It still crashes or wedges for me a lot, though. I tried mozilla, and that was worse. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: Crashing netscape?
On Mon, 21 Feb 2000, Alex Le Heux wrote: Hi, Am I the only one who's experiencing an amzing amount of crashes on Netscape? It's been going on for quite some time now (months), upgrading Netscape or switching from the Linux to the FreeBSD to the BSDI version doesn't help. The most stable version seems to be the Linux version, but that even crashes 5-10 times per day. It will *always* crash when a page uses java, but I've not been able to find a non-java page that will always crash it. Netscape would always crash on me when loading a java applet - I found that if you define both the scaled and unscaled fonts in XF86Config as below that all the java related crashes go away. It still crashes occasionally on complex pages that load up a million different frames, though. Section "Files" RgbPath"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled" ModulePath "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules" EndSection Hope this helps. -Bryan To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: Crashing netscape?
On Feb 21, 7:51pm, Alex Le Heux wrote: } Subject: Crashing netscape? } Hi, } } Am I the only one who's experiencing an amzing amount of crashes on } Netscape? } } It's been going on for quite some time now (months), upgrading Netscape or } switching from the Linux to the FreeBSD to the BSDI version doesn't help. } The most stable version seems to be the Linux version, but that even } crashes 5-10 times per day. It will *always* crash when a page uses java, } but I've not been able to find a non-java page that will always crash it. Have you tried "netscape -sync"? To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: Crashing netscape?
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bryan Liesner writes: Netscape would always crash on me when loading a java applet - I found that if you define both the scaled and unscaled fonts in XF86Config as below that all the java related crashes go away. Section "Files" RgbPath"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled" ModulePath "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules" EndSection Hope this helps. I tried this and Netscape ran Java for me for the first time _ever_, but other X programs started using scaled versions of bitmapped fonts - bleaurgh. Thinking about fonts inspired me, though; I copied the fonts.properties that the Linux JDK ports at http://www.jmcm.org/tech/ports/linux_jdk.html installed, and that works too. (This is with the Linux Netscape version; I haven't tried with the FreeBSD native version.) -spc To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: Crashing netscape?
You may want to try upgrading your linux libraries... they may be old... I don't have these problems though... Netscape rarely crashes for me. Me and one of my friends got really sick of this problem one weekend a few months ago (under Linux), and decided to figure out what was blowing up... After trying LOTS (about 40) of different library versions in even more (several hundred) combinations, we finally found a few combinations that worked (basically) every time... NS would still blow up when heavily strained, but 99.9% of the time it worked fine... This was on Slackware and Redhat Linux, dunno which versions (It really doesn't make any difference.) The general rule that we found is to take the NS version you're running, do an "ldd" on it to get the required libs, and go find what was at the time of that NS version release the most recent version of each library. Upgrading to a newer version almost always made NS die horribly, usually in Java... Sometimes you had to go back to the previous library version on one or two of them. After some more experimentation, I found very similar results under both AIX and Digital UNIX. Something tells me that they're doing something funny with memory pointers. mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
