Re: Mandating USA_RESIDENT

2000-01-18 Thread Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami
* From: Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] * On Mon, 17 Jan 2000, David O'Brien wrote: * * Due to the concequence involved, you really do need to check for 'NO', * 'YES', and "other". Rather than combining 'YES' and "other". * * You're suggesting not building openssl at all if they

Re: Mandating USA_RESIDENT

2000-01-18 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On 18 Jan 2000 03:03:09 PST, Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami wrote: Maybe it's better to make it an error to not specify it (yes, killing "make world" and stuff, that's what UPDATING is for). There's no better time for doing so than prior to 4.0-RELEASE. :-) Does sysinstall set this one?

Re: Mandating USA_RESIDENT

2000-01-18 Thread Patrick Bihan-Faou
bad idea, kill it now. Patrick. - Original Message - From: Sheldon Hearn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: list.freebsd.current Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2000 8:02 AM Subject: Re: Mandating USA_RESIDENT On 18 Jan 2000 03:03:09 PST, Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami wrote: Maybe it's bette

Re: Mandating USA_RESIDENT

2000-01-18 Thread Garrett Wollman
On 18 Jan 2000 03:03:09 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami) said: Won't people get into legal trouble (technically) if they build the wrong version? Depends on who they work for. Some people may work for organizations which have licensing agreements in place to permit

Re: Mandating USA_RESIDENT

2000-01-18 Thread Steve O'Hara-Smith
On 18-Jan-00 Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami wrote: Won't people get into legal trouble (technically) if they build the wrong version? As far as I understand things specifying USA_RESIDENT=yes when it is not true is liable (technically) to get some US based ftp server operator in

Re: Mandating USA_RESIDENT

2000-01-18 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Tue, 18 Jan 2000, Sheldon Hearn wrote: Does sysinstall set this one? If not, it should. Then we can stop worrying about it. :-) Not yet, but it should. If someone can help me out here it would be greatly appreciated. Kris "How many roads must a man walk down, before you call him a

Re: Mandating USA_RESIDENT

2000-01-18 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Tue, 18 Jan 2000, Patrick Bihan-Faou wrote: If we are changing the meaning of "USA_RESIDENT", could we replace it by We're not. It's just that until now it hasn't really mattered if it wasn't set (the cases where it did matter, like whether or not to fetch a crypto port from a US site, it

Re: Mandating USA_RESIDENT

2000-01-18 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami writes: : Won't people get into legal trouble (technically) if they build the : wrong version? RESIDENT=two-letter-iso-code CITIZEN=two-letter-iso-code Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe

Re: Mandating USA_RESIDENT

2000-01-18 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kris Kennaway writes: : In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Satoshi - Ports Wraith - :Asami writes: : : Won't people get into legal trouble (technically) if they build the : : wrong version? : : RESIDENT=two-letter-iso-code : CITIZEN=two-letter-iso-code : : What

Re: Mandating USA_RESIDENT

2000-01-18 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
Not yet, but it should. If someone can help me out here it would be greatly appreciated. "Setting it in sysinstall" is easy. Deciding where and how to set it in response to questions at certain stages of the installations(s) is more the sticking point. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to

Re: Mandating USA_RESIDENT

2000-01-18 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Tue, 18 Jan 2000, Warner Losh wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami writes: : Won't people get into legal trouble (technically) if they build the : wrong version? RESIDENT=two-letter-iso-code CITIZEN=two-letter-iso-code What about us dual citizens? :-)

Re: Mandating USA_RESIDENT

2000-01-18 Thread Brad Knowles
At 9:58 AM -0800 2000/1/18, Kris Kennaway wrote: I don't know much about the restrictions of other countries. If the current crypto policies were a legal problem for someone else we can surely change them to suit, but I'd rather not complicate things even more than they are already

Re: Mandating USA_RESIDENT

2000-01-18 Thread Taavi Talvik
On Tue, 18 Jan 2000, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: Not yet, but it should. If someone can help me out here it would be greatly appreciated. "Setting it in sysinstall" is easy. Deciding where and how to set it in response to questions at certain stages of the installations(s) is more the

Re: Mandating USA_RESIDENT

2000-01-18 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Tue, 18 Jan 2000, Taavi Talvik wrote: Maybe we should extend meaning of USA_RESIDENT or introduce new variable indicating contry. After doing netfork install, subsecuent fetces for ports/packages/distfiles from nearest ftp.xx.freebsd.org/cvsup.xx.freebsd.org is really handy. Specially for

Re: Mandating USA_RESIDENT

2000-01-18 Thread Carl Makin
On Tue, 18 Jan 2000, Kris Kennaway wrote: Fetching packages due to network topology is another idea I've wanted to implement for a while, although I was thinking of doing it dynamically by testing the available bandwidth to each of the hosts (and storing it in a database) and using them in

Re: Mandating USA_RESIDENT

2000-01-18 Thread George Cox
On 18/01 20:03, Brad Knowles wrote: Russia and France both are highly crypto-unfriendly, in that you are not allowed to use any crypto whatsoever unless it has been explicitly approved by the government. France changed their policy from zero-crypto to allowing 128-bits almost exactly a year

Re: Mandating USA_RESIDENT

2000-01-18 Thread David O'Brien
On Tue, Jan 18, 2000 at 10:26:12AM -0500, Patrick Bihan-Faou wrote: Then as part of the build process, automatically create specific variables for RSA or other stuff as they show up: CRYPTO_RSA="RSAref" or CRYPTO_RSA="rsa" or CRYPTO_RSA="none". This can be done by a little bit of shell

Re: Mandating USA_RESIDENT

2000-01-18 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Tue, 18 Jan 2000, David O'Brien wrote: I think this is the only way to properly handle it. As Garrett pointed out, some people in the USA actually do have a licence to use the "good" version of RSA. Is this the same Garrett who persuaded me not to include the RSA code at all in the

Re: Mandating USA_RESIDENT

2000-01-18 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Tue, 18 Jan 2000 18:15:35 -0800 (PST), Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Is this the same Garrett who persuaded me not to include the RSA code at all in the freefall repository so that people wouldn't get in trouble for simply posessing it? :) No, this is the same Garrett who

Re: Mandating USA_RESIDENT

2000-01-18 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Tue, 18 Jan 2000, Garrett Wollman wrote: No, this is the same Garrett who persuaded you not to include the RSA code at all in the freefall repository so that I could continue to maintain a mirror without getting into trouble with the Technology The upshot of all of which is that people

Re: Mandating USA_RESIDENT

2000-01-18 Thread Wes Peters
Warner Losh wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami writes: : Won't people get into legal trouble (technically) if they build the : wrong version? RESIDENT=two-letter-iso-code CITIZEN=two-letter-iso-code Is there an ISO code for Mars yet? --

Re: Mandating USA_RESIDENT

2000-01-18 Thread Wes Peters
Kris Kennaway wrote: On Tue, 18 Jan 2000, Warner Losh wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami writes: : Won't people get into legal trouble (technically) if they build the : wrong version? RESIDENT=two-letter-iso-code CITIZEN=two-letter-iso-code

Re: Mandating USA_RESIDENT

2000-01-18 Thread Geoff Rehmet
Patrick Bihan-Faou writes : [Charset iso-8859-1 unsupported, filtering to ASCII...] Hi, If we are changing the meaning of "USA_RESIDENT", could we replace it by something else completely. I know that the USA are the center of the universe ;-), but... It seems to me that a things

Re: Mandating USA_RESIDENT

2000-01-17 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Mon, 17 Jan 2000, David O'Brien wrote: Due to the concequence involved, you really do need to check for 'NO', 'YES', and "other". Rather than combining 'YES' and "other". You're suggesting not building openssl at all if they don't have a boolean value? Kris "How many roads must a