Re: Stale modules (Re: panic in the morning)

2000-04-23 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sun, 23 Apr 2000, Donn Miller wrote: > Which mailing list would be appropriate for discussing kernel modules, > etc.? freebsd-arch. Kris In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PR

Re: Stale modules (Re: panic in the morning)

2000-04-23 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sun, 23 Apr 2000, Leif Neland wrote: > > make world doesn't build a kernel. Making a kernel doesn't build > > modules. This bit me again the other day when updating, as well - panic at > > boot when loading a stale linux.ko. > > > If making world _and_ kernel doesn't build modules, what _then

attachable driver modules (Re: Stale modules (Re: panic in the morning))

2000-04-23 Thread attila!
On Sun, 23 Apr 2000, Donn Miller wrote: > I'd like to discuss further the possibility of creating some sort of > mechanism where the modules can be built with the kernel. Also, we > can have some sort of option in LINT or GENERIC where a keyword, such > as module, can be put somewhere in the ke

Re: Stale modules (Re: panic in the morning)

2000-04-23 Thread Donn Miller
Leif Neland wrote: > > make world doesn't build a kernel. Making a kernel doesn't build > > modules. This bit me again the other day when updating, as well - panic at > > boot when loading a stale linux.ko. > > > If making world _and_ kernel doesn't build modules, what _then_? Making world build

Re: Stale modules (Re: panic in the morning)

2000-04-23 Thread Leif Neland
On Wed, 19 Apr 2000, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Wed, 19 Apr 2000, Christoph Kukulies wrote: > > > I cvsup'ed, built world and kernel. Hhmm, actually I see no reason why > > there should be a problem since everything should be done by make world. > > make world doesn't build a kernel. Making a

Re: Stale modules (Re: panic in the morning)

2000-04-20 Thread Garrett Wollman
< said: > Looks like *really* nice idea. This would allow to solve "stale > modules" problem at minimal cost. Long ago, in a galaxy far, far away... (well, OK, seven years ago, in FreeBSD 1.0) I was working on developing a loadable-module system for FreeBSD (which I eventually threw out when Ter

Re: Stale modules (Re: panic in the morning)

2000-04-20 Thread Richard Wackerbarth
On Thu, 20 Apr 2000, Maxim Sobolev wrote: > > Then, we could add an option > > "make modules" and "make install_modules" so that they could be > > built/installed with the kernel. > > > > After all, modules ARE a part of the kernel... > > Looks like *really* nice idea. This would allow to solve "s

Re: Stale modules (Re: panic in the morning)

2000-04-20 Thread Bill Fumerola
On Thu, Apr 20, 2000 at 11:24:49AM +0200, Stijn Hoop wrote: > \begin{newbie question} > So why aren't the modules built with the kernel instead of with the world? > \end{newbie question} I bitched about this on committers the other day and marcel told me it was being worked on. -- Bill Fumerol

Re: Stale modules (Re: panic in the morning)

2000-04-20 Thread Maxim Sobolev
Donn Miller wrote: > Stijn Hoop wrote: > > > > On Wed, Apr 19, 2000 at 06:15:55PM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > > > make world doesn't build a kernel. Making a kernel doesn't build > > > modules. This bit me again the other day when updating, as well - panic at > > > boot when loading a stale l

Re: Stale modules (Re: panic in the morning)

2000-04-20 Thread Donn Miller
Stijn Hoop wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 19, 2000 at 06:15:55PM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > make world doesn't build a kernel. Making a kernel doesn't build > > modules. This bit me again the other day when updating, as well - panic at > > boot when loading a stale linux.ko. > > \begin{newbie ques

Re: Stale modules (Re: panic in the morning)

2000-04-20 Thread Paul Richards
Will Andrews wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 20, 2000 at 11:56:08AM +0100, Paul Richards wrote: > > that rapid developer folks can disable it. > > ITYM "rabid". And I kinda resent that.. ;-) I really did mean rapid, as in those that are installing kernels every 10 mins to test changes. Though, these da

Re: Stale modules (Re: panic in the morning)

2000-04-20 Thread Will Andrews
On Thu, Apr 20, 2000 at 11:56:08AM +0100, Paul Richards wrote: > that rapid developer folks can disable it. ITYM "rabid". And I kinda resent that.. ;-) -- Will Andrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> GCS/E/S @d- s+:+>+:- a--->+++ C++ UB P+ L- E--- W+++ !N !o ?K w--- ?O M+ V-- PS+ PE++ Y+ PGP+>+++ t++ 5

Re: Stale modules (Re: panic in the morning)

2000-04-20 Thread Paul Richards
Warner Losh wrote: > > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Alex Zepeda writes: > : Perhaps it's time to implement some sort of versioning in the modules to > : prevent them from being loaded into the incorrect kernel. > > In theory that sounds nice, but in -current the kernel ABI changes too > quickl

Re: Stale modules (Re: panic in the morning)

2000-04-20 Thread Stijn Hoop
On Wed, Apr 19, 2000 at 06:15:55PM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Wed, 19 Apr 2000, Christoph Kukulies wrote: > > > I cvsup'ed, built world and kernel. Hhmm, actually I see no reason why > > there should be a problem since everything should be done by make world. > > make world doesn't build a

Re: Stale modules (Re: panic in the morning)

2000-04-20 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Alex Zepeda writes: : Perhaps it's time to implement some sort of versioning in the modules to : prevent them from being loaded into the incorrect kernel. In theory that sounds nice, but in -current the kernel ABI changes too quickly for that to be effecitve. The

Re: Stale modules (Re: panic in the morning)

2000-04-20 Thread Alex Zepeda
On Thursday, April 20 2000, 01:15:55, [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: >On Wed, 19 Apr 2000, Christoph Kukulies wrote: > >> I cvsup'ed, built world and kernel. Hhmm, actually I see no reason why >> there should be a problem since everything should be done by make world. > >make world doesn't build a ker

Stale modules (Re: panic in the morning)

2000-04-19 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Wed, 19 Apr 2000, Christoph Kukulies wrote: > I cvsup'ed, built world and kernel. Hhmm, actually I see no reason why > there should be a problem since everything should be done by make world. make world doesn't build a kernel. Making a kernel doesn't build modules. This bit me again the other

Re: panic in the morning

2000-04-19 Thread Christoph Kukulies
On Wed, Apr 19, 2000 at 10:18:38AM -0400, Bill Fumerola wrote: > On Wed, Apr 19, 2000 at 03:49:28PM +0200, Christoph Kukulies wrote: > > > The panic is gone. I disabled the loading of the linuxulator in /etc/rc.local > > and re-brandelf'ed it. Unfortunately I have no longer any proof that Yikes!

Re: panic in the morning

2000-04-19 Thread Bill Fumerola
On Wed, Apr 19, 2000 at 03:49:28PM +0200, Christoph Kukulies wrote: > The panic is gone. I disabled the loading of the linuxulator in /etc/rc.local > and re-brandelf'ed it. Unfortunately I have no longer any proof that > it really *was* the linux emulator (should have made a copy). So what. Modu

Re: panic in the morning

2000-04-19 Thread Christoph Kukulies
On Wed, Apr 19, 2000 at 03:24:05PM +0200, Christoph Kukulies wrote: > On Wed, Apr 19, 2000 at 12:44:22PM +0200, Christoph Kukulies wrote: > > > > With a kernel built Apr 18th (and also today, Apr 19th) I'm getting > > panics when starting up in multiuser mode but also strange things > > happen wh

Re: panic in the morning

2000-04-19 Thread Christoph Kukulies
On Wed, Apr 19, 2000 at 12:44:22PM +0200, Christoph Kukulies wrote: > > With a kernel built Apr 18th (and also today, Apr 19th) I'm getting > panics when starting up in multiuser mode but also strange things > happen when trying to boot /kernel -s > > In the latter case I was dropped into ddb af

panic in the morning

2000-04-19 Thread Christoph Kukulies
With a kernel built Apr 18th (and also today, Apr 19th) I'm getting panics when starting up in multiuser mode but also strange things happen when trying to boot /kernel -s In the latter case I was dropped into ddb after being prompted with something like mountroot> I'm running i4b (isdnd) and