Re: Athlon XP SSE flag not set? (AMD's response)

2002-02-05 Thread Wojciech Puchar
- Our website has supported motherboards. - These motherboards have BIOSes that enable SSE on AthlonXP. it's strange that BIOS have to do it. - The end user should upgrade their BIOS if they have these motherboards. ask AMD how to enable it - it's probably few lines of assembly that could

Re: Athlon XP SSE flag not set? (AMD's response)

2002-02-05 Thread Wojciech Puchar
- These motherboards have BIOSes that enable SSE on AthlonXP. it's strange that BIOS have to do it. - The end user should upgrade their BIOS if they have these motherboards. ask AMD how to enable it - it's probably few lines of assembly that could be added to NetBSD initialization

Re: Why does adding /usr/lib32 to LD_LIBRARY_PATH break 64-bit binaries?

2008-10-24 Thread Wojciech Puchar
6.1-RELEASE-amd64 machine. If I add /usr/lib32 to my LD_LIBRARY_PATH it breaks all of my binaries on my 64-bit machine. what do you expect else? this will make system trying to bind 32-bit libs to 64-bit program. it can't work ___

Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors

2008-12-07 Thread Wojciech Puchar
manufacturers of hardware. More recently there were times when anybody from because managers/bosses concentrate on majority, not minority of users. manufacturers did not notice Linux. However now it is possible to find a few given out put normal OS - their list is at us on a site and then

Re: Request for opinions - gvinum or ccd?

2009-05-31 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Would create a striped data set across da1 and da2 What kind of performance gain can I expect from this? I'm purely thinking about performance now - the integrity checking stuff of ZFS is a pleasant extra. with stripping - as much as with gstripe, ZFS do roughly the same. with RAID-z -

RE: Request for opinions - gvinum or ccd?

2009-05-31 Thread Wojciech Puchar
should really use raidz2 in zfs (or some double parity raid on other systems) if you are worried about data integrity. The reason being the odds of the crc checking not detecting an error are much more likely these days. The extra layer of parity pushes these odds into being much bigger you are

Re: Request for opinions - gvinum or ccd?

2009-05-31 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Disks, unlike software, sometimes fail. Using redundancy can help modern SATA drives fail VERY often. about 30% of drives i bought recently failed in less than a year. both checksum on and copies 1 on, and the latter isn't the default. It's probably better to let zpool provide the

Re: Getting rid of pxeboot loader requests for .gz an .bz2 files

2009-05-31 Thread Wojciech Puchar
#ifdef LOADER_BZIP2_SUPPORT bzipfs_fsops, #endif Is it the correct idea to: make -C /usr/src/sys/boot -DLOADER_NO_GZIP_SUPPORT -DLOADER_NO_BZIP2_SUPPORT ? yes, but then you will not get any compression support, like compressed ramdisk image. but it's probably OK for you.

RE: Request for opinions - gvinum or ccd?

2009-05-31 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Yep it probably isn't clear enough, it does mention stuff about spreading it across vdevs, but doesn't say striped. isn't spreading and stripping actually the same? ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list

RE: Request for opinions - gvinum or ccd?

2009-06-01 Thread Wojciech Puchar
In the case of zfs yes, but not always. Eg you could have a concatenated volume. Where you only start writing to the second disk when the 1st is full. i don't know how ZFS exactly allocates space, but i use gconcat with UFS and it isn't true. UFS do jump between zones (called cyllinder

RE: Request for opinions - gvinum or ccd?

2009-06-01 Thread Wojciech Puchar
You shouldn't need to alter the copies attribute to recover from disk failures as the normal raid should take care of that. What the copies is I don't think we understand each other. I say that when i want 2 copies, ZFS should rebuild second copy if it's gone and i run resilver. it does not,

RE: Request for opinions - gvinum or ccd?

2009-06-01 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Its all done on write, so if you update the file it will have multiple copies again what is exactly what i said in the beginning. ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe,

Synchronize cache failed.

2009-06-02 Thread Wojciech Puchar
i bought new digital camera+8GB flash card, and when i plug it into USB port, it's detected properly umass0: OLYMPUS FE20,X15,C25, class 0/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 2 on uhub1 da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: OLYMPUS FE20,X15,C25 1.00 Removable Direct Access SCSI-0 device da0: 1.000MB/s

RE: Request for opinions - gvinum or ccd?

2009-06-02 Thread Wojciech Puchar
this. No you don't you just make sure you scrub the pools regularly once a week for instance. AGAIN example - i had one drive failed, got it out but recovered all data as for everything copies was set to more than one. Or most data, but those with copies=1 wasn't critical for me. then i

Re: Synchronize cache failed.

2009-06-02 Thread Wojciech Puchar
able to see a message that my camera is unknown device, for maybe 1 second before getting reboot. Try disabling hal (comment out hald_enable in /etc/rc.conf). If you need hal for X, try booting without X and hal/dbus. i don't use hal. You might also try UMASS_PROTO_SCSI | UMASS_PROTO_BBB,

Re: Synchronize cache failed.

2009-06-02 Thread Wojciech Puchar
before getting reboot. Try disabling hal (comment out hald_enable in /etc/rc.conf). If you need hal for X, try booting without X and hal/dbus. You might also try UMASS_PROTO_SCSI | UMASS_PROTO_BBB, or PROTO_BBB fixed this - now works properly without errors. THANK YOU! how to sent device

Re: Synchronize cache failed.

2009-06-02 Thread Wojciech Puchar
You might also try UMASS_PROTO_SCSI | UMASS_PROTO_BBB, or PROTO_BBB fixed this - now works properly without errors. Can you also try UMASS_PROTO_DEFAULT? /usr/src/sys/modules/umass/../../dev/usb/umass.c:607: error: 'UMASS_PROTO_DEFAULT' undeclared here (not in a function) i have FreeBSD

Re: REgarding TOS support in Kernel

2009-06-02 Thread Wojciech Puchar
forward.cc:978: error: 'SOL_IP' was not declared in this scope forward.cc:978: error: 'IP_RECVTOS' was not declared in this scope forward.cc:982: error: 'IP_PKTOPTIONS' was not declared in this scope *** Error code 1    I have wrote to writer of zph and he suggest me to look for freebsd

Re: Jails, loopback interfaces and sendmail

2009-06-04 Thread Wojciech Puchar
However, grep -R 127.0.0.1 /etc reveals, that sendmail in many places assumes localhost to be on 127.0.0.1 instead of looking it up in /etc/hosts or using 127.0.0.0/8 to identify a local connection. calling 127.0.0.1 from jail always loops back within jail. it's all fine. I worry that more

Re: Request for opinions - gvinum or ccd?

2009-06-07 Thread Wojciech Puchar
(very roughly, in the non-sequential access case) expected to deliver performance of four drives in a RAID0 array? According to all the Sun documentation, the I/O throughput of a raidz configuration is equal to that of a single drive. exactly what i say. it's like RAID3. Not RAID5 which have

Re: Clang: now available from a SVN server near you!

2009-06-09 Thread Wojciech Puchar
So runtime performance is on par with gcc, code size is a bit bigger bigger code=lower performance except benchmarks :) smaller code fits better in cache. so there is still room for optimization in LLVM. and for sure there will be some. Good that FreeBSD will have non-GNU compiler soon :)

Re: sysinstall, GJOURNAL and ZFS

2009-06-09 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Is there any work going on to make sysinstall recognize and abe able to create and work with GJOURNAL and ZFS? In the days of 1,5-2,0 terabyte harddrives, UFS2 + SoftUpdates simply doesn't cut it anymore, UFS2+SoftUpdates works fine on properly configured UFS2 - and very fast. Why you need

Re: sysinstall, GJOURNAL and ZFS

2009-06-09 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Interestingly in my experience its been the opposite, I've lost a few ext3 filesystems though bad power, same for NTFS (NT4, less so with 200x) but as yet never for ufs2 (fsck has always fixed it.) In worse cases it required manual attention :) UFS is used and improved over 20 years, it's

Re: sysinstall, GJOURNAL and ZFS

2009-06-09 Thread Wojciech Puchar
noticeably higher chance of leaving you with an unbootable system than if you were using Linux with ext3/ext4 or Windows with NTFS. Can you back this up? I cannot recall having ever rendered a FreeBSD system unbootable due to UFS/UFS2 problems after a power failure or I can confirm the

Re: sysinstall, GJOURNAL and ZFS

2009-06-09 Thread Wojciech Puchar
problem has since been fixed. I've had several cases that needed manual fsck. After I turned off background fsck, the problems stopped. These days background_fsck=NO is a standard part of my rc.conf. and mine. actually snapshots doesn't work on large partitions - could simply crash. that's

Re: sysinstall, GJOURNAL and ZFS

2009-06-10 Thread Wojciech Puchar
to be more precise): inappropriate time of file system lock on snapshot creation. On not-too-big 300G ufs2 not-too-heavy loaded snapshot creation time is 20+ minutes, and 5+ from that file system blocked even on reads. This looks unacceptable for me for any real use. that's why i disable it.

Re: sysinstall, GJOURNAL and ZFS

2009-06-10 Thread Wojciech Puchar
during installation process as well gives these newer options (UFS2+GJournal and ZFS in this case) a better exposure, resulting in more testing, resulting in these new features getting their quirks ironed out faster and resulting in these new features getting the truly tested and proven by time

Re: good morning to all

2009-06-15 Thread Wojciech Puchar
* malathi selvaraj malathira...@gmail.com wrote: i am new one to freeBSD, kindly guide me Sure. In order to be eligible to use FreeBSD, you must buy a license for $ 100,-. I expect this money to be transferred to my bank account as soon as possible. The IBAN number is:

Re: good morning to all

2009-06-15 Thread Wojciech Puchar
You may get special hacker-support licence for $500/year, which allows you to get up to 25 responses to any questions from freebsd-hackers list, and any above 25 for just 15$. Such a simple post, yet inspired so much creativity :-) he should decide quickly, as it's limited offer of summer

Re: good morning to all

2009-06-15 Thread Wojciech Puchar
thanks ;) It's not that easy like in Polish - where you simply look if name ends with a for women. On Mon, 15 Jun 2009, Pranav Peshwe wrote: From the name, I guess, its a 'she' not a 'he' :) On 6/15/09, Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: You may get special hacker

Re: tmpfs experimental?

2009-06-16 Thread Wojciech Puchar
In other words, is there still reason for the highly experimental feature warning? Last time when I added the warning, it was because some data corruption issue that can be identified by fsx which I didn't got a chance to investigate further. I think tmpfs is Ok for some usual work but maybe

Re: tmpfs experimental?

2009-06-16 Thread Wojciech Puchar
multiple times: ianto# mount | grep ' /tmp' tmpfs on /tmp (tmpfs, local) ianto# mount /tmp ianto# mount | grep ' /tmp' tmpfs on /tmp (tmpfs, local) tmpfs on /tmp (tmpfs, local) ianto# umount /tmp ianto# mount | grep ' /tmp' tmpfs on /tmp (tmpfs, local) ianto# it's not only tmpfs. you

Re: small usr.bin/find patch

2009-06-17 Thread Wojciech Puchar
cheers. Are you sure this is wise? after all 125 millibytes would be 1 bit.. Agree. While lots of people use m instead of M and b instead of B, this is not right to correct proper behavior to improper just for them. ___

Re: freebsd-hackers Digest, Vol 325, Issue 4

2009-06-18 Thread Wojciech Puchar
start reading books On Thu, 18 Jun 2009, malathi selvaraj wrote: how to start local host is freeBSD, i install apache22 even after localhost is not working ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list

is RTL8139 THAT bad?

2009-06-21 Thread Wojciech Puchar
i have pentium 200 with that card. doing ftp from other machine, getting 3.5MB/s (HDD can 10MB/s, DMA) having 45%-55% interrupt load. when sending it's not that bad. tried writing file to disk with cat /dev/zero file, it's only 3% ints with 10MB/s traffic. Why it's THAT bad? 3.5MB/s is

Re: is RTL8139 THAT bad?

2009-06-21 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl writes: Why it's THAT bad? http://svn.freebsd.org/base/head/sys/pci/if_rl.c Scroll down past the copyright, license and attribution. Read the 38-line comment that explains just how crappy this chip really is. Well - really low end

Re: is RTL8139 THAT bad?

2009-06-22 Thread Wojciech Puchar
But - this computer can do memcpy at 80MB/s, so at 3.5MB/s it should be 5% CPU for memcpy, and one interrupt per one packet (2500 packets/s). Is something more that make it consume 50% CPU? Accessing the on-card memory through PCI is guaranteed to be slower than the main memory, and depending

Re: is RTL8139 THAT bad?

2009-06-22 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Why it's THAT bad? Because CPU always have to copy frames to/from the controller. comment says card do DMA. just then it has to copy but within main memory not PCI. These CPU cycles could have been used in other task to give more performance such as SSH encryption/decryption, checksum

Re: dd copy of FreeBSD-7.2 won't boot

2009-06-23 Thread Wojciech Puchar
I have a remote server that was dd copied from one hard drive to another - essentially the same size. The disk device name (ad4) is the same but the geometry for the new drive has a CHS of 969021/16/63 On booting it hangs at: F1FreeBSD Boot: F1 I copied the MBR with 'boot0cfg -B

large pages (amd64)

2009-06-28 Thread Wojciech Puchar
i enabled vm.pmap.pg_ps_enabled: 1 could you please explain what exactly this values means? because i don't understand why promotions-demotions!=mappings vm.pmap.pde.promotions: 2703 vm.pmap.pde.p_failures: 6290 vm.pmap.pde.mappings: 610 vm.pmap.pde.demotions: 289 other question - tried

Re: large pages (amd64)

2009-06-28 Thread Wojciech Puchar
other question - tried enabling it on my i386 laptop (256 megs ram), always mappings==0, while promitionsdemotions0. The default starting address for executables on i386 is not aligned to a 2/4MB page boundary. Hence, mappings are much less likely to occur. certainly

Re: Regarding IO to disk

2009-07-08 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Declared average latency for desktop hard drives (see http://www.seagate.com/docs/pdf/datasheet/disc/ds_barracuda_7200_12.pdf) is latency is average time to wait until data will be below head. it's by average half on single rotation. for 7200 rpm drive it's 120rps so half rotation takes

What's changed between 7.1 and 7.2

2009-07-08 Thread Wojciech Puchar
i'm getting that crap every time i remount filesystem and on startup. GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/48dd2cbe8423dd9e removed. GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider mirror/sysa is ufsid/48dd2cbe8423dd9e. GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/48dd2cbe8423dd9e removed. GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider mirror/sysa is

Re: What's changed between 7.1 and 7.2

2009-07-12 Thread Wojciech Puchar
i'm using glabel only to avoid mess about what drive is connected to what SATA port. This is effectively debugging output that slipped into the release and shouldn't have. I believe it's now removed in 8.x, I'm not sure it's been MFC'd to 7.x yet. The output can be entirely ignored and does

mmap performance and memory use

2011-10-06 Thread Wojciech Puchar
i have few questions. 1) suppose i map 1TB of address space as anonymous and touch just one page. how much memory is used to manage this? 2) suppose we have 1TB file on disk without holes and 10 processes mmaps this file to it's address space. are just pages shared or can pagetables be

Re: mmap performance and memory use

2011-10-06 Thread Wojciech Puchar
page. how much memory is used to manage this? I am not sure how deep the enumeration you want to know, but the first approximation will be: one struct vm_map_entry one struct vm_object one pv_entry actually i don't need precise answer but algorithms. Page table structures need four pages

Re: mmap performance and memory use

2011-10-07 Thread Wojciech Puchar
You are correct about the page table page.  However, a superpage mapping consumes a single PV entry, in place of 512 or 1024 PV entries.  This winds up saving about three physical pages worth of memory for every superpage mapping. does it actually work? simple test before (only idle system

Re: mmap performance and memory use

2011-10-10 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Notice that vm.pmap.pde.promotions increased by 31. This means that 31 superpage mappings were created by promotion from small page mappings. thank you. i looked at .mappings as it seemed logical for me that is shows total. In contrast, vm.pmap.pde.mappings counts superpage mappings that

.eh_frame, .eh_frame_hdr - how to remove that trash

2011-10-20 Thread Wojciech Puchar
how to do this and what the hell it is used at all? i found somewhere it is some debugging info but i do not put -g option to compiler while compiling and still get substantial amount of this trash. trying strip -R .eh_frame -R .eh_frame_hdr results in working but LARGER binary, padded with

Re: .eh_frame, .eh_frame_hdr - how to remove that trash

2011-10-20 Thread Wojciech Puchar
i both don't use C++ and don't want to debug when i am linking final binary. how to turn this off? On Thu, 20 Oct 2011, Joerg Sonnenberger wrote: On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 09:41:24AM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: how to do this and what the hell it is used at all? It is used to allow

Re: .eh_frame, .eh_frame_hdr - how to remove that trash

2011-10-20 Thread Wojciech Puchar
i both don't use C++ and don't want to debug when i am linking final binary. how to turn this off? Which compiler do you use? supplied with FreeBSD 8.2 [wojtek@wojtek ~]$ cc -v Using built-in specs. Target: amd64-undermydesk-freebsd Configured with: FreeBSD/amd64 system compiler Thread

Re: .eh_frame, .eh_frame_hdr - how to remove that trash

2011-10-20 Thread Wojciech Puchar
this do the same that strip -R what i already tried and as i already wrote - the same results. program is working and sections are stripped but i am getting ca 1MB of binary zero paddings. ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: .eh_frame, .eh_frame_hdr - how to remove that trash

2011-10-20 Thread Wojciech Puchar
After I done this, the binary size *increased* a lot, while objdump shows that the content is less. I don't understand. same for me strip -R .eh_frame -R .eh_frame_hdr do the same. ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: .eh_frame, .eh_frame_hdr - how to remove that trash

2011-10-20 Thread Wojciech Puchar
--remove-section .rel.eh_frame --remove-section .rela.eh_frame $your_executable After I done this, the binary size *increased* a lot, while objdump shows that the content is less. I don't understand. add -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-exceptions -fno-asynchronous-unwind-tables -fno-unwind-tables

Re: .eh_frame, .eh_frame_hdr - how to remove that trash

2011-10-20 Thread Wojciech Puchar
-fno-asynchronous-unwind-tables should get rid of unwind information, a.k.a. 'crap'. and this worked. found it just before getting your mail ;) yes and this is crap... possibly it is needed for some cases and some languages and i would not call it crap if it would not be included by default!

Re: .eh_frame, .eh_frame_hdr - how to remove that trash

2011-10-21 Thread Wojciech Puchar
on entry into each function, which is different from usual x86 convention. Asynchronous unwind info (yeah, same stuff you keep referring to as crap), is the only way you can debug your program or get anything remotely close to usable backtrace, by default. i understand but i DO NOT called

Re: .eh_frame, .eh_frame_hdr - how to remove that trash

2011-10-21 Thread Wojciech Puchar
that i do not want to debug isn't it? It seems like a binutils bug (or somewhere in that immediate neighborhood) because all debugging related sections should be stripped out by strip including unwind, correct? indeed. ___

Re: Measuring memory footprint in C/C++ code on FreeBSD

2011-10-21 Thread Wojciech Puchar
footprint? Almost certainly yes. Measuring virtual memory is significantly less important for real-world loads. Some of this is very nicely described here: https://www.varnish-cache.org/trac/wiki/ArchitectNotes . definitely. just run top and compare RES and SIZE fields. extreme example:

improving VM - questions

2012-02-25 Thread Wojciech Puchar
it is easy to see that VM settings are not fine for MODERN hardware. We have gigabytes, not megabytes of RAM, hard disks can be efficient only if average I/O size is in order of megabyte or so, not tens of kB. In spite of having gigabytes of RAM, sometimes we DO NEED swapping. often we have

Re: improving VM - questions

2012-02-28 Thread Wojciech Puchar
+++ swap_pager.c2012-02-25 13:19:51.0 +0100 @@ -119,7 +119,7 @@ * The 32-page limit is due to the radix code (kern/subr_blist.c). */ #ifndef MAX_PAGEOUT_CLUSTER -#define MAX_PAGEOUT_CLUSTER 16 +#define MAX_PAGEOUT_CLUSTER 256 #endif [snip] but swap_pager.c patch seems

Re: improving VM - questions

2012-02-28 Thread Wojciech Puchar
right. but still 32 pages is 128kB, but i see 64kB I/Os in systat/vmstat Right, but the comment says to not define MAX_PAGEOUT_CLUSTER to a value greater than 32, but you did that.  So all bets could be off unless you examined the code and know exactly what should happen in this case. I

FreeBSD-9 crash at swapctl -d

2012-03-05 Thread Wojciech Puchar
repeatable crash when turning off my 9GB swap partition (of which 0 bytes was used): Dump header from device /dev/ada0b Architecture: amd64 Architecture Version: 2 Dump Length: 198971392B (189 MB) Blocksize: 512 Dumptime: Mon Mar 5 09:29:41 2012 Hostname: wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl

what's wrong with cd9660 fs

2012-04-20 Thread Wojciech Puchar
i created for test ISO image with 6GB file in it using mkisofs -rJ --iso-level 3 -o /path_to/file.iso . worked fine. tar tvf file.iso shows things fine. even windoze under virtualbox with file.iso mounted as CD/DVD - works fine, and see 6GB file. did mdconfig -a -t vnode -f file.iso and

Re: what's wrong with cd9660 fs

2012-04-21 Thread Wojciech Puchar
I am currently trying to understand how fs/udf handles multiple extents. /usr/src/sys/fs/udf/udf_vnops.c bears in function udf_bmap_internal() a comment: * If the offset is beyond the current extent, look for the * next extent. Have a nice day :) Thomas for

best possible GJOURNAL device?

2012-04-26 Thread Wojciech Puchar
http://www.vikingmodular.com/products/arxcis/ddr3/ddr3.html or ZFS ZIL device for ZFS fans. anyone know exactly how it is visible and how it works? isn't BIOS clearing out memory on reboot? FreeBSD is but it can be patched easily. How to get DRAM controller mapping i mean what DIMM is at

Re: best possible GJOURNAL device?

2012-04-26 Thread Wojciech Puchar
http://www.vikingmodular.com/products/arxcis/ddr3/ddr3.html In general devices like these that I've dealt with in the past are presented as SATA or SAS devices, but some devices require additional drivers (take Ramdrives devices for instance). this one - as described - is 100% regular DDR3

Re: best possible GJOURNAL device?

2012-04-26 Thread Wojciech Puchar
power fails). So I'm guessing that if it works with your motherboard, it will work regardless of the OS. How it's presented to the OS? ENOCLUE (ask Viking). it is DDR3 DIMM so it is presented as RAM. ENODRIVER in FreeBSD. but could be trivial to implement, if it is known on which memory

Re: Ways to promote FreeBSD?

2012-04-27 Thread Wojciech Puchar
After using Linux for almost 15 years, I only recently started using FreeBSD. I own an internet startup and was looking for a solution for Those who need FreeBSD already use it. no need to promote. Or maybe need to promote bigger donations to FreeBSD community from big users. Those who

NFS - slow

2012-04-27 Thread Wojciech Puchar
is there any way to speed up NFS server? from what i noticed: - reads works fast and good, like accessed locally, readahead up to maxbsize works fine on large files etc. - write works terribly. it performs sync on every write IMHO, setting vfs.nfsrv.async=1 improves things SLIGHTLY, but

Re: Ways to promote FreeBSD?

2012-04-27 Thread Wojciech Puchar
and are working not toying around - use FreeBSD. Not really true and kind of a poor attitude. possibly but this is what i observe. Yes. many people needing high performance already use FreeBSD, but there are lots of services that could benefit from FreeBSD who are not very aware of it.

Re: Ways to promote FreeBSD?

2012-04-27 Thread Wojciech Puchar
My opinion is that most important obstacle in front of FreeBSD is its installation structure : It is NOT possible to install and use a FreeBSD distribution directly as it is . In Linux distributions , when a distribution is installed , the user , NOT root , can use its facilities WITHOUT

Re: Ways to promote FreeBSD?

2012-04-27 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Absolutely I do NOT have any idea against PC-BSD . My wish is that it Me too. in spite that it is FreeBSD based, it's good it is separate. This means that people that want windows style computing already have something FreeBSD based. So what a problem?

Re: Ways to promote FreeBSD?

2012-04-29 Thread Wojciech Puchar
There is such a very nice distribution : http://ghostbsd.org/ Also, freesbie.org That's great - there are distributions with ready to use desktop environments etc. etc. while the main one is always the same. Everyone gets what he/she needs. ___

Re: Ways to promote FreeBSD?

2012-04-29 Thread Wojciech Puchar
FreeBSD installation and boot style are very nice . Personally I dislike very much Ubuntu-like installs ( nothing is displayed about what is going on ) and I never use it ( in spite of I am installing each release of it ) . Another way to promote FreeBSD - show Solaris first. Yesterday just

Re: Ways to promote FreeBSD?

2012-04-29 Thread Wojciech Puchar
there are lots of services that could benefit from FreeBSD who are not very aware of it. They may have heard the name, and even know that it is an OS, but have heard it passed off as a non-entity in the field and do not know better than that. Don't really understand you. Basically everything

Re: NFS - slow

2012-04-29 Thread Wojciech Puchar
the server is required to do that. (ie. Make sure the data is stored on stable storage, so it can't be lost if the server crashes/reboots.) Expensive NFS servers can use non-volatile RAM to speed this up, but a generic FreeBSD box can't do that. Some clients (I believe ESXi is one of these)

Re: Ways to promote FreeBSD?

2012-04-29 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Mac OSD _is_ a UNIX: http://www.linux-mag.com/id/4376 So, why not use a UNIX on the Desktop? :) as well as my VoIP phone gateway software. as well as Mac software it is unix based but NOT meant for it's user to interact with unix commands or even know it is. Just opposite to FreeBSD/amd64.

Re: Ways to promote FreeBSD?

2012-04-29 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Another way to promote FreeBSD - show Solaris first. Yesterday just to look downloaded from oracle. Incredibly slow, no idea what's going on not only while installing but when trying to do anything and understand /etc/ hierarchy. incredible slow mess - this is the most advanced unix from

Re: Ways to promote FreeBSD?

2012-04-29 Thread Wojciech Puchar
I prefer less advanced FreeBSD Ridiculing other projects is not a great way to show superiority. +1 Leave mudslinging to marketing and politicians :).. -Garrett as for now you and few other people work hard to DE-promote FreeBSD from those few people that are able to make use of it but

Re: NFS - slow

2012-04-30 Thread Wojciech Puchar
i tried nfsv4, tested under FreeBSD over localhost and it is roughly the same. am i doing something wrong? On Mon, 30 Apr 2012, Peter Jeremy wrote: On 2012-Apr-27 22:05:42 +0200, Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: is there any way to speed up NFS server? ... - write

Re: NFS - slow

2012-05-01 Thread Wojciech Puchar
new (default on 9) sets it to MAXBSIZE, which is currently 64K, but I would like to get that increased. (A quick test suggested that the kernel works when MAXBSIZE is set to 128K, but I haven't done much testing yet.) From a long time my kernels have MAXBSIZE of 2 megabytes which is right

Re: Ways to promote FreeBSD?

2012-05-01 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Advertising that it exists and is used is more important than saying x sucks, use y instead. This is the tone I was getting from the previous response and this is what I discourage as well as others on the list. It was just an example. I don't use FreeBSD because Oracle Solaris sucks

Re: Ways to promote FreeBSD?

2012-05-01 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Joe user, students, etc really don't care about the underlying system as long as the GUIs obscure this. Indeed you are right. Actually they don't completely know what happens. This is normal, but the poor word in your sentence is students. Unfortunately, from my observations, this is

Re: NFS - slow

2012-05-04 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Probably not. NFSv4 writes are done exactly the same as NFSv3. (It changes other stuff, like locking, adding support for ACLs, etc.) I do have a patch is there any chance to improving it? i mean to cluster writes up to MAXBSIZE on nfs server, just like local UFS do?

Re: Ways to promote FreeBSD?

2012-05-04 Thread Wojciech Puchar
I think The power to serve, pretty much sums it up nicely. :-) that simple. While whom/what it serve it depends. But it have to serve someone needs. Contrary to computer owner being a server for someone else needs :) now. While I know this probably seems pointless, based on your

Re: Ways to promote FreeBSD?

2012-05-04 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Not really, no. I was referring to the practice of starting a gazillion services by default, including dbus, avahi, ftp and http services, file sharing components, and all the rest of the stuff that is now commonly installed as part of a Linux desktop. SELinux is indeed one form of hardening,

Re: CPU selection for ithreads on 8.3

2012-05-04 Thread Wojciech Puchar
cxgbc0} 12 root -68- 0K 816K WAIT7 0:31 0.00% intr{irq280: cxgbc0} Back in the day there used to be code in cxgb to bind different interrupts to different CPUs but it was removed because the kernel distributed them across CPUs anyway. So what changed? This appears 8.3

Re: gnome start error?help me.

2012-05-14 Thread Wojciech Puchar
I installed FreeBSD9.0 to IBM R51.Gnome startup black screen, only to restart.My graphics card is 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device.Is there any solution?Can you give me a detailed step? ? Thank you! same thing here. it is not video card dependent IMHO chao zhong li 2.12/5/13

Re: diagonising a overheating problem

2012-05-15 Thread Wojciech Puchar
diagonising? means diagnosing agonising? good word :) that for some reason the FreeBSD CPU/bus speed controls and such are not working based on the following item I found in my dmesg's: acpi_tz0: _CRT value is absurd, ignored (-273.2C) seems like superfluid helium produced in that

Re: NFS - slow

2012-05-15 Thread Wojciech Puchar
same. am i doing something wrong? I found NFSv4 to be much *slower* than NFSv3 on FreeBSD, when I benchmarked it a year or so ago. both are just right in you read (NFSv4 taking a bit more CPU), and both are awful at writes. for me now the only way to get NFS working well is to use unfsd

Re: Ways to promote FreeBSD?

2012-05-15 Thread Wojciech Puchar
great idea! On Sat, 5 May 2012, Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: Find some mailing lists that have nothing to do with FreeBSD, and barrage them with spam promoting FreeBSD. :-) ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: Ways to promote FreeBSD?

2012-05-15 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Today, FreeBSD works on some of the most powerful equipment in the world. Equipment where price is hardly an issue. We have a great many to thank for that. and works on low end hardware. The same FreeBSD and it can be tuned well for both cases. ___

Re: GSoC Project: Automated Kernel Crash Reporting System - Discussion

2012-05-15 Thread Wojciech Puchar
sorry if off topic but is today Google needed to do anything and must supervise everything? Cannot people just write a code as they always did? I have created a page in the FreeBSD Wiki (http://wiki.freebsd.org/SummerOfCode2012/AutomatedKernelCrashReportingSystem) where I describe in details

Re: proper newfs options for SSD disk

2012-05-25 Thread Wojciech Puchar
On 2012-May-18 22:54:43 +0200, Dimitry Andric d...@freebsd.org wrote: Be sure to use -t enable when creating the filesystem: Only if your SSD supports TRIM. Some consumer-grade SSDs don't and get very confused if sent TRIM commands. mine do. ___

Re: proper newfs options for SSD disk

2012-05-25 Thread Wojciech Puchar
mine do. The disk also has be be connected to a disk arch which supports BIO_DELETE which ATM is only ata unless your running HEAD which also has support in da FreeBSD 9 support it and it do works. ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: proper newfs options for SSD disk

2012-05-25 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Talking about another question, related to file systems on SSD: My netbook with the two SSD has file systems mounted as: $ df -kh Filesystem SizeUsed Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ada0s1a3.7G567M3.1G15%/ /dev/ada1s1a 14G8.7G5.9G60%/usr/local

Re: proper newfs options for SSD disk

2012-05-26 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Why? Your laptop have most probably slow CPU and it will make everything too slow if you make everything encrypted. I'd suggest some experiments - create a largish RAMdisk with and without GELI and see how the performance compares (this will be a lot faster than converting your SSD as well as

Re: proper newfs options for SSD disk

2012-05-26 Thread Wojciech Puchar
use tmpfs and don't fear to add /var/tmp to it. I would fear to add /var/tmp-- /var/tmp should persist across reboots. Chris as i noted - check your case.in my case it is not a problem. it your it may. Never blindly follow rules, good practices etc..

BIO_DELETE equivalent for file on FFS filesystem

2012-05-26 Thread Wojciech Puchar
is it possible. suppose i have 1GB file with my data and 100 1 megabyte parts of it is no longer needed. i could reorganize that file to take 900MB or... can i call some system function to punch holes? ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: proper newfs options for SSD disk

2012-05-30 Thread Wojciech Puchar
... # geli attach /dev/md1 Enter passphrase: # dd if=/dev/md1.eli of=/dev/null bs=128k count=4k 536868864 bytes transferred in 35.093015 secs (15298454 bytes/sec) # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/md1.eli bs=128k count=4k 536868864 bytes transferred in 38.044995 secs (14111419 bytes/sec) # geli detach

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